Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-24 Thread katskat1
Thanks Lynda

I am going to discuss with my vet altho I think I am OK as I have my
negatives tested annually and all have been 'clean' for 2+ years now.
Phew!

Kat

On 4/23/11, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:
 I've heard and read that testing for FeLV using tears and saliva is very
 inaccurate.  Blood test is the only way to go.  Tears and saliva are not as
 sensitive using these samples. I highly recommend using blood to test. Here
 is a link that may help you...your question is answered under What is a
 leukemia test?

 http://uvhberkeley.com/index.php?Page=felvFormat=print

 I hope your kitty tests negative. I'm experiencing the same right now. My
 cats last exposure was on March 10th. He was unknowingly exposed several
 times over a 6 mo. period. I'm pryaing hard that his immune system has
 cleared the virus and will be fine. I'll know for sure by this June.
 Good luck to you!
 Lynda

 - Original Message -
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test


 In reading thru all this info I see where someone says using
 tears/saliva to do the ELISA test is notoriously inaccurate?  My
 vet has ALWAYS done it with a swab on the inner cheek of the mouth
 Do I need to talk to her?  Why so different if done with blood?
 Can the same test solutions be used?  She swabs. then puts the swab in
 a tube with a solution.  We then wait to see if it turns blue.  Blue
 means positive, staying clear means negative.

 Would appreciate any info.

 thanks
 Kat

 On 4/18/11, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:
 Test is in from IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA negative!   BUT they did another
 Elisa (the first was done in-house)  she is still Elisa positive.

 So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to Madison right now
 but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed
 info in hand.  My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk
 positive sanctuary, says she will  test positive on the next IFA in a
 month  all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or
 something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical too.  But you all are the
 ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the
 sanctuary) but I need your input.

 My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done
 for some reason.  Will probably try to do that when I transition her out
 of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one
 hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame
 out  put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding
 under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the
 wall.  There is a low to the floor desk  I guess I will let her have
 that but will barricade everything else  leave several open crates with
 towels around also.

 Meanwhile her appetite is very good.

 I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my
 negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice
 cat but it would be positive  that would eliminate any little chance
 Poppy might have.

 Your thoughts, please please.

 Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-23 Thread katskat1
In reading thru all this info I see where someone says using
tears/saliva to do the ELISA test is notoriously inaccurate?  My
vet has ALWAYS done it with a swab on the inner cheek of the mouth
 Do I need to talk to her?  Why so different if done with blood?
Can the same test solutions be used?  She swabs. then puts the swab in
a tube with a solution.  We then wait to see if it turns blue.  Blue
means positive, staying clear means negative.

Would appreciate any info.

thanks
Kat

On 4/18/11, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:
 Test is in from IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA negative!   BUT they did another
 Elisa (the first was done in-house)  she is still Elisa positive.

 So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to Madison right now
 but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed
 info in hand.  My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk
 positive sanctuary, says she will  test positive on the next IFA in a
 month  all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or
 something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical too.  But you all are the
 ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the
 sanctuary) but I need your input.

 My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done
 for some reason.  Will probably try to do that when I transition her out
 of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one
 hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame
 out  put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding
 under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the
 wall.  There is a low to the floor desk  I guess I will let her have
 that but will barricade everything else  leave several open crates with
 towels around also.

 Meanwhile her appetite is very good.

 I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my
 negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice
 cat but it would be positive  that would eliminate any little chance
 Poppy might have.

 Your thoughts, please please.

 Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-23 Thread Lynda Wilson
I've heard and read that testing for FeLV using tears and saliva is very 
inaccurate.  Blood test is the only way to go.  Tears and saliva are not as 
sensitive using these samples. I highly recommend using blood to test. Here 
is a link that may help you...your question is answered under What is a 
leukemia test?


http://uvhberkeley.com/index.php?Page=felvFormat=print

I hope your kitty tests negative. I'm experiencing the same right now. My 
cats last exposure was on March 10th. He was unknowingly exposed several 
times over a 6 mo. period. I'm pryaing hard that his immune system has 
cleared the virus and will be fine. I'll know for sure by this June.

Good luck to you!
Lynda

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Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test



In reading thru all this info I see where someone says using
tears/saliva to do the ELISA test is notoriously inaccurate?  My
vet has ALWAYS done it with a swab on the inner cheek of the mouth
Do I need to talk to her?  Why so different if done with blood?
Can the same test solutions be used?  She swabs. then puts the swab in
a tube with a solution.  We then wait to see if it turns blue.  Blue
means positive, staying clear means negative.

Would appreciate any info.

thanks
Kat

On 4/18/11, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:

Test is in from IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA negative!   BUT they did another
Elisa (the first was done in-house)  she is still Elisa positive.

So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to Madison right now
but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed
info in hand.  My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk
positive sanctuary, says she will  test positive on the next IFA in a
month  all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or
something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical too.  But you all are the
ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the
sanctuary) but I need your input.

My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done
for some reason.  Will probably try to do that when I transition her out
of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one
hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame
out  put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding
under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the
wall.  There is a low to the floor desk  I guess I will let her have
that but will barricade everything else  leave several open crates with
towels around also.

Meanwhile her appetite is very good.

I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my
negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice
cat but it would be positive  that would eliminate any little chance
Poppy might have.

Your thoughts, please please.

Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-19 Thread Maureen Olvey

I agree with everyone else.  The virus has probably gotten in her system since 
she's had two positive ELISA tests but there is a chance she could fight it off 
before it goes any further.  If she does extinguish the virus she'll eventually 
test negative on both the ELISA and the IFA.  If her system can't get rid of 
the virus then eventually she'll test positive on the IFA.  (Course there is 
the possibility that both ELISA tests were wrong but probably not very likely). 
 If you can keep her for a bit then re-test it would be better to give her time 
to see if she fights the virus off.  It's harder for kittens to fight the virus 
but not impossible.  I have heard of kittens fighting it off so if you can give 
her a little time so she has a chance for her immune system to do it's magic 
that would be the better option I would think.  

This lady with the FeLV sanctuary must be a wonderful person to do what she 
does.  I don't think she understands the mechanics of how FeLV works though and 
how it gets into the body and then progresses.  I'm not an expert but I have 
read lots and talked with several vets and of course everyone here knows a lot 
so I think the lady is mistaken in what she told you.  She may have been 
talking about lymphoma which is one thing that can happen to a cat with FeLV.  
But it's no guarantee that that is what will happen with Poppy even if she 
can't fight the virus off.  Some cats get a kind of severe anemia or several 
other things can happen, but some cats live with FeLV for a long long time and 
never have trouble.  We were just talking about the 11 year old cat with FeLV.  
At the same time I had been talking with someone in my Feline Asthma group that 
just had a 16 year old cat that died and they discovered FeLV.  They knew for 
sure the cat could have only gotten it as a kitten so she lived for 16 years 
with it which is a long time.  So some cats just defy odds and live a long life 
so you can't say for certain how Poppy will do even if she has FeLV.  Like I 
said, wonderful lady but it doesn't sound like she knows a lot about FeLV.  
Maybe she's just telling you stuff based on her personal experience with it.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain



 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:06:28 -0500
 From: pam_nor...@charter.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
 
 Good idea, but no, it was a blood test.  Both Elisas.
 
 On 4/18/2011 4:21 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:
  Just a wild thought... Was the Elisa done by using blood on test strip or
  saliva/tears???  Some vets may be still doing saliva/tears test  its
  notorious for being wrong.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
  Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 4:35 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
 
  She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative.  An initial positive on the
  Elisa  the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative
  on the IFA.
 
  On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote:
   Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no
  clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has
  been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV
  positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to
  clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus
  from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I
  have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that
  there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3
  of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are
  99.999% accurate.
   Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2
  years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a
  natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the
  non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very
  small.
   I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!!
  Tanya
 
 
  --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net   wrote:
 
  From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from
  IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA
  negative!   BUT they did another Elisa (the
  first was done in-house)   she is still Elisa positive.
 
  So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to Madison right
  now but when I get back I will re-read

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread TANYA NOE
   Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no 
clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been 
at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV positive, but 
you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to clear the vius. 
There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus from her body even if 
it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken with the maker 
of the snap test because we were always told that there we a lot of false 
positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were 
positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999% accurate. 
   Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years 
ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a natural 
immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the 
non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very 
small.
   I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!!
Tanya


--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:

 From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM
 Test is in from
 IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA
 negative!   BUT they did another Elisa (the
 first was done in-house)  she is still Elisa positive.
 
 So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to
 Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the
 links with this confirmed info in hand.  My woman who
 is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary,
 says she will  test positive on the next IFA in a month
  all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma
 or something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical
 too.  But you all are the ones who are hands on every
 day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need
 your input.
 
 My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That
 wasn't done for some reason.  Will probably try to do
 that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate.
 Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I
 have a twin bed in there but am going to take the
 frame  out  put the mattresses on the floor cause
 I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the
 time. Same with stuff up against the wall.  There is a
 low to the floor desk  I guess I will let her have that
 but will barricade everything else  leave several open
 crates with towels around also.
 
 Meanwhile her appetite is very good.
 
 I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't
 put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the
 sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive
  that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might
 have.
 
 Your thoughts, please please.
 
 Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread designercats

Hi Pam,I have had cats that test positive on the SNAP test, and then again one 
month later.  Two months later the same cats have tested negative and then 
negative again after 6 months and continue to be negative a few years later.  I 
have one cat that still tested positive 6 months later but tested negative 2 
years later, all the while living with positives.There's always hope.El
 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:38:03 -0500
 From: pam_nor...@charter.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
 
 Test is in from IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA negative!   BUT they did another 
 Elisa (the first was done in-house)  she is still Elisa positive.
 
 So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to Madison right now 
 but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed 
 info in hand.  My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk 
 positive sanctuary, says she will  test positive on the next IFA in a 
 month  all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or 
 something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical too.  But you all are the 
 ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the 
 sanctuary) but I need your input.
 
 My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done 
 for some reason.  Will probably try to do that when I transition her out 
 of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one 
 hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame  
 out  put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding 
 under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the 
 wall.  There is a low to the floor desk  I guess I will let her have 
 that but will barricade everything else  leave several open crates with 
 towels around also.
 
 Meanwhile her appetite is very good.
 
 I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my 
 negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice 
 cat but it would be positive  that would eliminate any little chance 
 Poppy might have.
 
 Your thoughts, please please.
 
 Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread Pam Norman
She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative.  An initial positive on 
the Elisa  the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a 
negative on the IFA.


On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote:

Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no 
clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been 
at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV positive, but 
you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to clear the vius. 
There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus from her body even if 
it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken with the maker 
of the snap test because we were always told that there we a lot of false 
positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were 
positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999% accurate.
Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years 
ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a natural 
immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the 
non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very 
small.
I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!!
Tanya


--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net  wrote:


From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM
Test is in from
IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA
negative!   BUT they did another Elisa (the
first was done in-house)  she is still Elisa positive.

So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to
Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the
links with this confirmed info in hand.  My woman who
is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary,
says she will  test positive on the next IFA in a month
  all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma
or something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical
too.  But you all are the ones who are hands on every
day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need
your input.

My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That
wasn't done for some reason.  Will probably try to do
that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate.
Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I
have a twin bed in there but am going to take the
frame  out  put the mattresses on the floor cause
I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the
time. Same with stuff up against the wall.  There is a
low to the floor desk  I guess I will let her have that
but will barricade everything else  leave several open
crates with towels around also.

Meanwhile her appetite is very good.

I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't
put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the
sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive
  that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might
have.

Your thoughts, please please.

Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread Christiane Biagi
Just a wild thought... Was the Elisa done by using blood on test strip or
saliva/tears???  Some vets may be still doing saliva/tears test  its
notorious for being wrong.  

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 4:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative.  An initial positive on the
Elisa  the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative
on the IFA.

On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote:
 Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no
clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has
been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV
positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to
clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus
from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I
have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that
there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3
of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are
99.999% accurate.
 Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2
years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a
natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the
non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very
small.
 I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!!
 Tanya


 --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net  wrote:

 From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from
 IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA
 negative!   BUT they did another Elisa (the
 first was done in-house)  she is still Elisa positive.

 So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to Madison right 
 now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this 
 confirmed info in hand.  My woman who is willing to take Poppy into 
 her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will  test positive on the 
 next IFA in a month   all this IFA means is that she does not have 
 melanoma or something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical too.  But you 
 all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman 
 with the sanctuary) but I need your input.

 My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't 
 done for some reason.  Will probably try to do that when I transition 
 her out of the condo. Into a crate.
 Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a 
 twin bed in there but am going to take the frame  out  put the 
 mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed 
 in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall.  There 
 is a low to the floor desk  I guess I will let her have that but 
 will barricade everything else  leave several open crates with 
 towels around also.

 Meanwhile her appetite is very good.

 I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of 
 my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me 
 a nice cat but it would be positive   that would eliminate any 
 little chance Poppy might have.

 Your thoughts, please please.

 Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread TANYA NOE
Yes, I was just explaining what positive on the IFA meant. :)  
Positive on the snap and then positive again at least 6 weeks later is most 
likely positive.
Tanya

--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:

 From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 4:34 PM
 She is not positive on the IFA, she
 is negative.  An initial positive on 
 the Elisa  the another positive on the Elisa, but at
 the same time, a 
 negative on the IFA.
 
 On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote:
      Positive on IFA means it has
 reached the bone barrow and there is no clearing the virus.
 If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been
 at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is
 FeLV positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give
 her body time to clear the vius. There is still a slight
 chance she could clear the virus from her body even if it
 has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken
 with the maker of the snap test because we were always told
 that there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic
 there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were
 positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999%
 accurate.
      Whether you mix or not is
 completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years ago. Since
 cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a
 natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated
 the risk of the non-positive contracting FeLV is small.
 There is still a risk but it is very small.
      I hope this helps and thanks
 for taking care of this kitty!!
  Tanya
 
 
  --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net 
 wrote:
 
  From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM
  Test is in from
  IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA
  negative!   BUT they did another
 Elisa (the
  first was done in-house)  she is still
 Elisa positive.
 
  So tell me now what this means.  I have to go
 off to
  Madison right now but when I get back I will
 re-read all the
  links with this confirmed info in hand.  My
 woman who
  is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive
 sanctuary,
  says she will  test positive on the next IFA
 in a month
    all this IFA means is that she does
 not have melanoma
  or something else.  My vet is kinda
 skeptical
  too.  But you all are the ones who are hands
 on every
  day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but
 I need
  your input.
 
  My intention now is to get her to the vet for
 worming. That
  wasn't done for some reason.  Will probably
 try to do
  that when I transition her out of the condo. Into
 a crate.
  Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding
 place. I
  have a twin bed in there but am going to take the
  frame  out  put the mattresses on
 the floor cause
  I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark
 all the
  time. Same with stuff up against the wall. 
 There is a
  low to the floor desk  I guess I will
 let her have that
  but will barricade everything else 
 leave several open
  crates with towels around also.
 
  Meanwhile her appetite is very good.
 
  I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just
 can't
  put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at
 the
  sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would
 be positive
    that would eliminate any little chance
 Poppy might
  have.
 
  Your thoughts, please please.
 
  Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

2011-04-18 Thread Pam Norman

Good idea, but no, it was a blood test.  Both Elisas.

On 4/18/2011 4:21 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

Just a wild thought... Was the Elisa done by using blood on test strip or
saliva/tears???  Some vets may be still doing saliva/tears test  its
notorious for being wrong.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 4:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test

She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative.  An initial positive on the
Elisa  the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative
on the IFA.

On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote:

 Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no

clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has
been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV
positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to
clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus
from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I
have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that
there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3
of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are
99.999% accurate.

 Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2

years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a
natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the
non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very
small.

 I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!!
Tanya


--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net   wrote:


From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from
IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA
negative!   BUT they did another Elisa (the
first was done in-house)   she is still Elisa positive.

So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to Madison right
now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this
confirmed info in hand.  My woman who is willing to take Poppy into
her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will  test positive on the
next IFA in a month   all this IFA means is that she does not have
melanoma or something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical too.  But you
all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman
with the sanctuary) but I need your input.

My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't
done for some reason.  Will probably try to do that when I transition
her out of the condo. Into a crate.
Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a
twin bed in there but am going to take the frame  out   put the
mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed
in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall.  There
is a low to the floor desk   I guess I will let her have that but
will barricade everything else   leave several open crates with
towels around also.

Meanwhile her appetite is very good.

I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of
my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me
a nice cat but it would be positive   that would eliminate any
little chance Poppy might have.

Your thoughts, please please.

Pam
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