Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

2010-06-26 Thread dlgegg
MY SHADOW WAS ALSO FELV NEGATIVE.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 For two cats that had the blood clot, it was painful - with the last one, it
 didn't seem to be.  I forgot that our fist cat in the 70s, also had to be
 euthanized because surgery or any other treatment at the time wasn't readily
 available. The clot mostly appears in the y area, rendering both legs
 incapable of moving.   The paws were very cold in all instances.  My vet
 used blood thinners etc. to dissolve itcat recuperated for about 2
 months, then seemed fine, except for the limp on one side. BTW - those were
 healthy cats, not FIV/FeLV positive ones.  I've never observed FIV+ cats
 with weak hind legs, and only had one FeLV+ kitten, that started convulsing
 and had to be euthanized. This is the first time that I've had 2 adult FeLV+
 cats, and both seem to be extremely healthy, knock on wood!  Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:54 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)
 
 Natalie, I've never had a cat with blood clots on a hind leg but I was under
 the impression it was very painful. The cat should show signs of being in
 pain.  Also you can check the back paws.  Do they feel warm or cold.  If
 there is a blood clot the paw would feel cold.
 Sharyl
 
 --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:00 PM
  Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that
  CoQ10 causes heart clots - on the
  contrary! I questioned the weakness in the hind legs being
  possibly caused
  by a clot.  I've had three cats - two were euthanize
  because it happened at
  night or a weekend (emergency clinics), and the third cat
  was treated by my
  vet and survived, although he limps.  When I found him
  one morning, he
  wasn't able to use his hind legs at all. Natalie
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Sharyl
  Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:26 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
  nodding/bobbing head)
  
  Natalie, I give my Pequita 30 mg of CoQ10 every day for her
  heart.  She is
  not FeLV+ but does have CRF and a heart murmur.  She
  has been getting her
  daily dose for 3 yrs now.  CoQ10 is highly recommended
  on the Yahoo Feline
  Heart group.  Don't see how it could cause blood
  clots.
  Sharyl
  
  --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net
  wrote:
  
   From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
  nodding/bobbing head)
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:15 AM
   Has anyone been giving FIV/FeLV
   positive cats CoQ10 as a supplement?  I get
   the GNC vegetarian formula because it's powder in
  capsules
   which can be
   easily opened and sprinkled on their food (others are
  in
   oil form, not very
   easy to use, but can be done by sticking a pin into
  the
   gelatin capsule and
   squeezing it out into the food). I use 50mg for 4 cats
  once
   a day. 
   Could it possibly be a blood clot in the fork of the
   arteries to hind legs?
   However, normally that would mean not being able to
  use
   hind legs at all.
   Natalie
   
 
 
 
   
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

2010-06-25 Thread Tracy Weese

I, too have a FeLV+ cat that has been extremely healthy for her entire life 
(10+ years) and just recently started limping (favoring her right hind leg) and 
at times I would see her head bob or nod (it appears involuntary) -- took her 
to vet and of course she refused to walk, just crouched down and wouldn't move 
(she is a shy kitty).  We ran complete blood panels to check for neuropathy, 
diabetes, etc., and the blood work indicated she was in excellent health as 
usual!  But, she keeps limping and bobbing/nodding.  So I am taking her back 
now for xrays, and whatever.  So I am particularly interested in what others 
have found out -- I will keep folks posted on what I find out about Vixen (my 
cat), too.



-Original Message-
From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Sent: Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs

Ps Coco was diagnosed with myonecrosis via muscle biopsy.
L

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs

Hind leg weakness seems to come up somewhat frequently on the CRF group,
this website has a great index of symptoms  treatments A-Z,
http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms_treatments_index.htm see W for weakness
in back legs and several things are listed, though I think most are things
that would have showed in the chemistry.   We had a feral kitty who was
paralyzed in her rear legs due to a lesion on her spine, but sounds like
you've covered that with the ultrasound (as much as it can be covered
anyway).   Do they think throwing a clot is a possibility?

I hope you can figure out the cause, others might have some good input.

Love  good thoughts to Wolfie!

Heather

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Just wondering what sort of experience people have had with leuk positive
 cats getting weak in the back legs.  My cat, Wolfie, is 8 and has been
 positive since we rescued him 6 years ago.  He's been pretty healthy other
 than the last year or so.  Last September he was diagnosed with
 non-regenerative anemia but has been fairly stable since then.  I recently
 took him to the vet as I noticed he was getting weak in his hind legs,
 walking differently and avoiding putting weight on them for long periods
of
 time.  His HCT is down, WBC and RBC are a bit lower than usual.  Chemistry
 looks ok.

 I've had 9 cats die from this disease and only ever saw one with leg
 issues.  She woke up one morning and had lost all use of her back legs, no
 warning.  This is different from that situation and just wondering what
 could be going on.  We did an ultrasound today.  No sign of lymphoma or
 anything pressing on the spine.  No real loss of muscle mass on physical
 exam.  We are putting him on doxy/pred in case hemobart is causing the
 anemia.  The specialist at Cornell mentioned it could be something with
the
 leukemia affecting the muscle or nerves directly but she couldn't find any
 literature on this.  I told her I'd post here and see if anybody has had a
 similar experience or has anything to add on what could be going on.

 Thanks
 Amy




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Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

2010-06-25 Thread Laurieskatz
Coco's myonecrosis could only be diagnosed by muscle biopsies sent to Texas
or California (I forget which) - it's a specialized process.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Weese
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:07 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)


I, too have a FeLV+ cat that has been extremely healthy for her entire life
(10+ years) and just recently started limping (favoring her right hind leg)
and at times I would see her head bob or nod (it appears involuntary) --
took her to vet and of course she refused to walk, just crouched down and
wouldn't move (she is a shy kitty).  We ran complete blood panels to check
for neuropathy, diabetes, etc., and the blood work indicated she was in
excellent health as usual!  But, she keeps limping and bobbing/nodding.  So
I am taking her back now for xrays, and whatever.  So I am particularly
interested in what others have found out -- I will keep folks posted on what
I find out about Vixen (my cat), too.



-Original Message-
From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Sent: Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs

Ps Coco was diagnosed with myonecrosis via muscle biopsy.
L

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs

Hind leg weakness seems to come up somewhat frequently on the CRF group,
this website has a great index of symptoms  treatments A-Z,
http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms_treatments_index.htm see W for weakness
in back legs and several things are listed, though I think most are things
that would have showed in the chemistry.   We had a feral kitty who was
paralyzed in her rear legs due to a lesion on her spine, but sounds like
you've covered that with the ultrasound (as much as it can be covered
anyway).   Do they think throwing a clot is a possibility?

I hope you can figure out the cause, others might have some good input.

Love  good thoughts to Wolfie!

Heather

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Just wondering what sort of experience people have had with leuk positive
 cats getting weak in the back legs.  My cat, Wolfie, is 8 and has been
 positive since we rescued him 6 years ago.  He's been pretty healthy
other
 than the last year or so.  Last September he was diagnosed with
 non-regenerative anemia but has been fairly stable since then.  I
recently
 took him to the vet as I noticed he was getting weak in his hind legs,
 walking differently and avoiding putting weight on them for long periods
of
 time.  His HCT is down, WBC and RBC are a bit lower than usual.
Chemistry
 looks ok.

 I've had 9 cats die from this disease and only ever saw one with leg
 issues.  She woke up one morning and had lost all use of her back legs,
no
 warning.  This is different from that situation and just wondering what
 could be going on.  We did an ultrasound today.  No sign of lymphoma or
 anything pressing on the spine.  No real loss of muscle mass on physical
 exam.  We are putting him on doxy/pred in case hemobart is causing the
 anemia.  The specialist at Cornell mentioned it could be something with
the
 leukemia affecting the muscle or nerves directly but she couldn't find
any
 literature on this.  I told her I'd post here and see if anybody has had
a
 similar experience or has anything to add on what could be going on.

 Thanks
 Amy




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Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

2010-06-25 Thread Natalie
Has anyone been giving FIV/FeLV positive cats CoQ10 as a supplement?  I get
the GNC vegetarian formula because it's powder in capsules which can be
easily opened and sprinkled on their food (others are in oil form, not very
easy to use, but can be done by sticking a pin into the gelatin capsule and
squeezing it out into the food). I use 50mg for 4 cats once a day. 
Could it possibly be a blood clot in the fork of the arteries to hind legs?
However, normally that would mean not being able to use hind legs at all.
Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

Coco's myonecrosis could only be diagnosed by muscle biopsies sent to Texas
or California (I forget which) - it's a specialized process.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Weese
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:07 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)


I, too have a FeLV+ cat that has been extremely healthy for her entire life
(10+ years) and just recently started limping (favoring her right hind leg)
and at times I would see her head bob or nod (it appears involuntary) --
took her to vet and of course she refused to walk, just crouched down and
wouldn't move (she is a shy kitty).  We ran complete blood panels to check
for neuropathy, diabetes, etc., and the blood work indicated she was in
excellent health as usual!  But, she keeps limping and bobbing/nodding.  So
I am taking her back now for xrays, and whatever.  So I am particularly
interested in what others have found out -- I will keep folks posted on what
I find out about Vixen (my cat), too.



-Original Message-
From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Sent: Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs

Ps Coco was diagnosed with myonecrosis via muscle biopsy.
L

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs

Hind leg weakness seems to come up somewhat frequently on the CRF group,
this website has a great index of symptoms  treatments A-Z,
http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms_treatments_index.htm see W for weakness
in back legs and several things are listed, though I think most are things
that would have showed in the chemistry.   We had a feral kitty who was
paralyzed in her rear legs due to a lesion on her spine, but sounds like
you've covered that with the ultrasound (as much as it can be covered
anyway).   Do they think throwing a clot is a possibility?

I hope you can figure out the cause, others might have some good input.

Love  good thoughts to Wolfie!

Heather

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Just wondering what sort of experience people have had with leuk positive
 cats getting weak in the back legs.  My cat, Wolfie, is 8 and has been
 positive since we rescued him 6 years ago.  He's been pretty healthy
other
 than the last year or so.  Last September he was diagnosed with
 non-regenerative anemia but has been fairly stable since then.  I
recently
 took him to the vet as I noticed he was getting weak in his hind legs,
 walking differently and avoiding putting weight on them for long periods
of
 time.  His HCT is down, WBC and RBC are a bit lower than usual.
Chemistry
 looks ok.

 I've had 9 cats die from this disease and only ever saw one with leg
 issues.  She woke up one morning and had lost all use of her back legs,
no
 warning.  This is different from that situation and just wondering what
 could be going on.  We did an ultrasound today.  No sign of lymphoma or
 anything pressing on the spine.  No real loss of muscle mass on physical
 exam.  We are putting him on doxy/pred in case hemobart is causing the
 anemia.  The specialist at Cornell mentioned it could be something with
the
 leukemia affecting the muscle or nerves directly but she couldn't find
any
 literature on this.  I told her I'd post here and see if anybody has had
a
 similar experience or has anything to add on what could be going on.

 Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

2010-06-25 Thread Heather
I had a colony cat (who already had a head tilt/vestibular, a colony I took
over from someone else) show up with her head bobbing uncontrollably in all
directions.  It was due to deeply infected ear canals  ear mites.   She did
not regain completely normal head movement but it did improve very much.
Not sure this would relate to your kitty, but wanted to mention just in
case.

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Tracy Weese trwe...@earthlink.net wrote:


 I, too have a FeLV+ cat that has been extremely healthy for her entire life
 (10+ years) and just recently started limping (favoring her right hind leg)
 and at times I would see her head bob or nod (it appears involuntary) --
 took her to vet and of course she refused to walk, just crouched down and
 wouldn't move (she is a shy kitty).  We ran complete blood panels to check
 for neuropathy, diabetes, etc., and the blood work indicated she was in
 excellent health as usual!  But, she keeps limping and bobbing/nodding.  So
 I am taking her back now for xrays, and whatever.  So I am particularly
 interested in what others have found out -- I will keep folks posted on what
 I find out about Vixen (my cat), too.



 -Original Message-
 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Sent: Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs
 
 Ps Coco was diagnosed with myonecrosis via muscle biopsy.
 L
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:09 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs
 
 Hind leg weakness seems to come up somewhat frequently on the CRF group,
 this website has a great index of symptoms  treatments A-Z,
 http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms_treatments_index.htm see W for
 weakness
 in back legs and several things are listed, though I think most are
 things
 that would have showed in the chemistry.   We had a feral kitty who was
 paralyzed in her rear legs due to a lesion on her spine, but sounds like
 you've covered that with the ultrasound (as much as it can be covered
 anyway).   Do they think throwing a clot is a possibility?
 
 I hope you can figure out the cause, others might have some good input.
 
 Love  good thoughts to Wolfie!
 
 Heather
 
 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Just wondering what sort of experience people have had with leuk
 positive
  cats getting weak in the back legs.  My cat, Wolfie, is 8 and has been
  positive since we rescued him 6 years ago.  He's been pretty healthy
 other
  than the last year or so.  Last September he was diagnosed with
  non-regenerative anemia but has been fairly stable since then.  I
 recently
  took him to the vet as I noticed he was getting weak in his hind legs,
  walking differently and avoiding putting weight on them for long periods
 of
  time.  His HCT is down, WBC and RBC are a bit lower than usual.
  Chemistry
  looks ok.
 
  I've had 9 cats die from this disease and only ever saw one with leg
  issues.  She woke up one morning and had lost all use of her back legs,
 no
  warning.  This is different from that situation and just wondering what
  could be going on.  We did an ultrasound today.  No sign of lymphoma or
  anything pressing on the spine.  No real loss of muscle mass on physical
  exam.  We are putting him on doxy/pred in case hemobart is causing the
  anemia.  The specialist at Cornell mentioned it could be something with
 the
  leukemia affecting the muscle or nerves directly but she couldn't find
 any
  literature on this.  I told her I'd post here and see if anybody has had
 a
  similar experience or has anything to add on what could be going on.
 
  Thanks
  Amy
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

2010-06-25 Thread Sharyl
Natalie, I give my Pequita 30 mg of CoQ10 every day for her heart.  She is not 
FeLV+ but does have CRF and a heart murmur.  She has been getting her daily 
dose for 3 yrs now.  CoQ10 is highly recommended on the Yahoo Feline Heart 
group.  Don't see how it could cause blood clots.
Sharyl

--- On Fri, 6/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:15 AM
 Has anyone been giving FIV/FeLV
 positive cats CoQ10 as a supplement?  I get
 the GNC vegetarian formula because it's powder in capsules
 which can be
 easily opened and sprinkled on their food (others are in
 oil form, not very
 easy to use, but can be done by sticking a pin into the
 gelatin capsule and
 squeezing it out into the food). I use 50mg for 4 cats once
 a day. 
 Could it possibly be a blood clot in the fork of the
 arteries to hind legs?
 However, normally that would mean not being able to use
 hind legs at all.
 Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:22 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
 nodding/bobbing head)
 
 Coco's myonecrosis could only be diagnosed by muscle
 biopsies sent to Texas
 or California (I forget which) - it's a specialized
 process.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Tracy Weese
 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:07 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org;
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
 nodding/bobbing head)
 
 
 I, too have a FeLV+ cat that has been extremely healthy for
 her entire life
 (10+ years) and just recently started limping (favoring her
 right hind leg)
 and at times I would see her head bob or nod (it appears
 involuntary) --
 took her to vet and of course she refused to walk, just
 crouched down and
 wouldn't move (she is a shy kitty).  We ran complete
 blood panels to check
 for neuropathy, diabetes, etc., and the blood work
 indicated she was in
 excellent health as usual!  But, she keeps limping and
 bobbing/nodding.  So
 I am taking her back now for xrays, and whatever.  So
 I am particularly
 interested in what others have found out -- I will keep
 folks posted on what
 I find out about Vixen (my cat), too.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Sent: Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs
 
 Ps Coco was diagnosed with myonecrosis via muscle
 biopsy.
 L
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Heather
 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:09 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs
 
 Hind leg weakness seems to come up somewhat frequently
 on the CRF group,
 this website has a great index of symptoms 
 treatments A-Z,
 http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms_treatments_index.htm
 see W for weakness
 in back legs and several things are listed, though I
 think most are things
 that would have showed in the
 chemistry.   We had a feral kitty who was
 paralyzed in her rear legs due to a lesion on her
 spine, but sounds like
 you've covered that with the ultrasound (as much as it
 can be covered
 anyway).   Do they think throwing a clot
 is a possibility?
 
 I hope you can figure out the cause, others might have
 some good input.
 
 Love  good thoughts to Wolfie!
 
 Heather
 
 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Just wondering what sort of experience people have
 had with leuk positive
  cats getting weak in the back legs.  My cat,
 Wolfie, is 8 and has been
  positive since we rescued him 6 years ago. 
 He's been pretty healthy
 other
  than the last year or so.  Last September he
 was diagnosed with
  non-regenerative anemia but has been fairly stable
 since then.  I
 recently
  took him to the vet as I noticed he was getting
 weak in his hind legs,
  walking differently and avoiding putting weight on
 them for long periods
 of
  time.  His HCT is down, WBC and RBC are a bit
 lower than usual.
 Chemistry
  looks ok.
 
  I've had 9 cats die from this disease and only
 ever saw one with leg
  issues.  She woke up one morning and had lost
 all use of her back legs,
 no
  warning.  This is different from that
 situation and just wondering what
  could be going on.  We did an ultrasound
 today.  No sign of lymphoma or
  anything pressing on the spine.  No real loss
 of muscle mass on physical
  exam.  We are putting him on doxy/pred in
 case hemobart is causing the
  anemia.  The specialist at Cornell mentioned
 it could be something with
 the
  leukemia

Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

2010-06-25 Thread Natalie
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that CoQ10 causes heart clots - on the
contrary! I questioned the weakness in the hind legs being possibly caused
by a clot.  I've had three cats - two were euthanize because it happened at
night or a weekend (emergency clinics), and the third cat was treated by my
vet and survived, although he limps.  When I found him one morning, he
wasn't able to use his hind legs at all. Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

Natalie, I give my Pequita 30 mg of CoQ10 every day for her heart.  She is
not FeLV+ but does have CRF and a heart murmur.  She has been getting her
daily dose for 3 yrs now.  CoQ10 is highly recommended on the Yahoo Feline
Heart group.  Don't see how it could cause blood clots.
Sharyl

--- On Fri, 6/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:15 AM
 Has anyone been giving FIV/FeLV
 positive cats CoQ10 as a supplement?  I get
 the GNC vegetarian formula because it's powder in capsules
 which can be
 easily opened and sprinkled on their food (others are in
 oil form, not very
 easy to use, but can be done by sticking a pin into the
 gelatin capsule and
 squeezing it out into the food). I use 50mg for 4 cats once
 a day. 
 Could it possibly be a blood clot in the fork of the
 arteries to hind legs?
 However, normally that would mean not being able to use
 hind legs at all.
 Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:22 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
 nodding/bobbing head)
 
 Coco's myonecrosis could only be diagnosed by muscle
 biopsies sent to Texas
 or California (I forget which) - it's a specialized
 process.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Tracy Weese
 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:07 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org;
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
 nodding/bobbing head)
 
 
 I, too have a FeLV+ cat that has been extremely healthy for
 her entire life
 (10+ years) and just recently started limping (favoring her
 right hind leg)
 and at times I would see her head bob or nod (it appears
 involuntary) --
 took her to vet and of course she refused to walk, just
 crouched down and
 wouldn't move (she is a shy kitty).  We ran complete
 blood panels to check
 for neuropathy, diabetes, etc., and the blood work
 indicated she was in
 excellent health as usual!  But, she keeps limping and
 bobbing/nodding.  So
 I am taking her back now for xrays, and whatever.  So
 I am particularly
 interested in what others have found out -- I will keep
 folks posted on what
 I find out about Vixen (my cat), too.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Sent: Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs
 
 Ps Coco was diagnosed with myonecrosis via muscle
 biopsy.
 L
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Heather
 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:09 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs
 
 Hind leg weakness seems to come up somewhat frequently
 on the CRF group,
 this website has a great index of symptoms 
 treatments A-Z,
 http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms_treatments_index.htm
 see W for weakness
 in back legs and several things are listed, though I
 think most are things
 that would have showed in the
 chemistry.   We had a feral kitty who was
 paralyzed in her rear legs due to a lesion on her
 spine, but sounds like
 you've covered that with the ultrasound (as much as it
 can be covered
 anyway).   Do they think throwing a clot
 is a possibility?
 
 I hope you can figure out the cause, others might have
 some good input.
 
 Love  good thoughts to Wolfie!
 
 Heather
 
 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Just wondering what sort of experience people have
 had with leuk positive
  cats getting weak in the back legs.  My cat,
 Wolfie, is 8 and has been
  positive since we rescued him 6 years ago. 
 He's been pretty healthy
 other
  than the last year or so.  Last September he
 was diagnosed with
  non-regenerative anemia but has been fairly stable
 since then.  I
 recently
  took him to the vet as I noticed he was getting
 weak in his hind legs,
  walking differently

Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

2010-06-25 Thread Sharyl
Natalie, I've never had a cat with blood clots on a hind leg but I was under 
the impression it was very painful. The cat should show signs of being in pain. 
 Also you can check the back paws.  Do they feel warm or cold.  If there is a 
blood clot the paw would feel cold.
Sharyl

--- On Fri, 6/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:00 PM
 Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that
 CoQ10 causes heart clots - on the
 contrary! I questioned the weakness in the hind legs being
 possibly caused
 by a clot.  I've had three cats - two were euthanize
 because it happened at
 night or a weekend (emergency clinics), and the third cat
 was treated by my
 vet and survived, although he limps.  When I found him
 one morning, he
 wasn't able to use his hind legs at all. Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Sharyl
 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:26 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
 nodding/bobbing head)
 
 Natalie, I give my Pequita 30 mg of CoQ10 every day for her
 heart.  She is
 not FeLV+ but does have CRF and a heart murmur.  She
 has been getting her
 daily dose for 3 yrs now.  CoQ10 is highly recommended
 on the Yahoo Feline
 Heart group.  Don't see how it could cause blood
 clots.
 Sharyl
 
 --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
 nodding/bobbing head)
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:15 AM
  Has anyone been giving FIV/FeLV
  positive cats CoQ10 as a supplement?  I get
  the GNC vegetarian formula because it's powder in
 capsules
  which can be
  easily opened and sprinkled on their food (others are
 in
  oil form, not very
  easy to use, but can be done by sticking a pin into
 the
  gelatin capsule and
  squeezing it out into the food). I use 50mg for 4 cats
 once
  a day. 
  Could it possibly be a blood clot in the fork of the
  arteries to hind legs?
  However, normally that would mean not being able to
 use
  hind legs at all.
  Natalie
  



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

2010-06-25 Thread Natalie
For two cats that had the blood clot, it was painful - with the last one, it
didn't seem to be.  I forgot that our fist cat in the 70s, also had to be
euthanized because surgery or any other treatment at the time wasn't readily
available. The clot mostly appears in the y area, rendering both legs
incapable of moving.   The paws were very cold in all instances.  My vet
used blood thinners etc. to dissolve itcat recuperated for about 2
months, then seemed fine, except for the limp on one side. BTW - those were
healthy cats, not FIV/FeLV positive ones.  I've never observed FIV+ cats
with weak hind legs, and only had one FeLV+ kitten, that started convulsing
and had to be euthanized. This is the first time that I've had 2 adult FeLV+
cats, and both seem to be extremely healthy, knock on wood!  Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)

Natalie, I've never had a cat with blood clots on a hind leg but I was under
the impression it was very painful. The cat should show signs of being in
pain.  Also you can check the back paws.  Do they feel warm or cold.  If
there is a blood clot the paw would feel cold.
Sharyl

--- On Fri, 6/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and nodding/bobbing head)
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:00 PM
 Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that
 CoQ10 causes heart clots - on the
 contrary! I questioned the weakness in the hind legs being
 possibly caused
 by a clot.  I've had three cats - two were euthanize
 because it happened at
 night or a weekend (emergency clinics), and the third cat
 was treated by my
 vet and survived, although he limps.  When I found him
 one morning, he
 wasn't able to use his hind legs at all. Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Sharyl
 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:26 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
 nodding/bobbing head)
 
 Natalie, I give my Pequita 30 mg of CoQ10 every day for her
 heart.  She is
 not FeLV+ but does have CRF and a heart murmur.  She
 has been getting her
 daily dose for 3 yrs now.  CoQ10 is highly recommended
 on the Yahoo Feline
 Heart group.  Don't see how it could cause blood
 clots.
 Sharyl
 
 --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Weakness in hind legs (and
 nodding/bobbing head)
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:15 AM
  Has anyone been giving FIV/FeLV
  positive cats CoQ10 as a supplement?  I get
  the GNC vegetarian formula because it's powder in
 capsules
  which can be
  easily opened and sprinkled on their food (others are
 in
  oil form, not very
  easy to use, but can be done by sticking a pin into
 the
  gelatin capsule and
  squeezing it out into the food). I use 50mg for 4 cats
 once
  a day. 
  Could it possibly be a blood clot in the fork of the
  arteries to hind legs?
  However, normally that would mean not being able to
 use
  hind legs at all.
  Natalie
  



  

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