Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Marcia Baronda
What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little 
helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do 
just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people 
ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is 
because I can, and that obligates me.  I make no money of course, but I spend 
plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my 
shitlist and I don't even know him.

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On May 3, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

 Wow! I'm so very sorry the vet treated you and your kitty that way. I totally 
 agree with your statement. He should have let you decide if you wanted to 
 spend the money!!
  
 Are you thinking about taking her somewhere else next time she needs fluids, 
 etc? I hope her fever does not return so she can feel well enough to enjoy 
 herself.
  
 Thank goodness she has you to take care of her and to feel your love.
  
 Bless your heart, Maureen!!
  
 Lynda
 - Original Message -
 From: Maureen Olvey
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 
 He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He just was trying 
 to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being logical about 
 spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same time I couldn't 
 believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without anything but a quick 
 physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed it was. He 
 just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die anyway so don't 
 waste money on her.
 
 I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a majority of kittens that have it 
 but it doesn't mean you don't at least try to help them. He should have at 
 least wanted to see if what was wrong with her had anything that could be 
 treated and then let us know the cost and let us decide whether we wanted to 
 spend money on her.
 
 Maureen
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
  
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 
 Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm 
 so sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't 
 get a vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your 
 pocket. I do hope that she makes it and is not suffering.
  
 Glad to hear though that she is eating treats and getting your love. I know 
 you are doing everything possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :)
  
 I hope she gets better, I really do.
  
 Thanks for the update!
 Lynda
 - Original Message -
 From: molvey...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 
 finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update.
 
 Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets.  The kind  that looks at 
 her symptoms and says it all  FeLV related without doing any test. He said 
 she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's 
 money by doing any tests.  I told him not to worry about it because I was 
 paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work .  So he did and she 
 doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, 
 as I suspected .  She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids .  I 
 have no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it.  I guess 
 because he just wanted me to let her die.  Another vet on my blacklist.   I 
 guess it's just another cat to him.  Won't be seeing that SOB again.
 
 It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in 
 contact with a vet at the university of  TN that is going to let me try a new 
 drug for the dry form  of FIP.  It's not on the market yet but the clinical 
 trials look good.  I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a 
 difference for my kitten but it's worth a try.  The drug is actually an 
 immune stimulant called polyprenyl immunostimulant.  Since my kitten has FeLV 
 in addition to FIP it may not help.  But she's going to die anyway so why not 
 try it.
 
 She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on her 
 hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis.   I don't know how much longer 
 she has.  I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and 
 treats.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey

Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time.  I hate it when 
it does that.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400





Ha, ha - I love it!!!  You sound as pissed off as I was.  Believe me he is on 
my shitlist too.  I was boiling about it for days.  Matter of fact I was just 
telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking 
about it.

I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die.  I don't know.  
He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to 
give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could 
get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP.  I didn't give him a chance to 
send me away with nothing.  Course, at the time other than the fever she was 
doing okay.  Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and 
everything although she had lost some weight.  So she wasn't in any pain.  But 
I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about 
that anyway.  The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as 
the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some 
antibiotics that aren't even that expensive.  He's such a dumbass.  I didn't 
know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked 
him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her.  So if 
he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care.  He 
figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing 
any kind of tests or treatments on her.  I'm surprised he didn't suggest 
killing her.  BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at 
that point it would have been just killing her.

I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals.  I'm going to steal 
it.  Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I 
run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) 
but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad 
thing or beneath me or something.  I'll use your answer for those folks.  It's 
probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean!

Maureen

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little 
helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do 
just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people 
ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is 
because I can, and that obligates me.  I make no money of course, but I spend 
plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my 
shitlist and I don't even know him.

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread GRAS
When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don't help
people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not
mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people.
My question to them is, do you help people?,  which often catches them off
guard because they probably don't.

I'm so glad that I never came across a veterinarian like that, although I've
heard of some jerks like that around here..

Natalie

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

 

Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time.  I hate it
when it does that.



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From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400

Ha, ha - I love it!!!  You sound as pissed off as I was.  Believe me he is
on my shitlist too.  I was boiling about it for days.  Matter of fact I was
just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again
thinking about it.

I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die.  I don't know.
He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to
give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I
could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP.  I didn't give him a
chance to send me away with nothing.  Course, at the time other than the
fever she was doing okay.  Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was
still eating and everything although she had lost some weight.  So she
wasn't in any pain.  But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have
wanted to do something about that anyway.  The thing is that like
toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was
that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that
expensive.  He's such a dumbass.  I didn't know that the symptoms were the
same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had
thought about it when he was looking at her.  So if he thought about it and
didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care.  He figured with FeLV
she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of
tests or treatments on her.  I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her.
BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point
it would have been just killing her.

I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals.  I'm going to
steal it.  Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed
ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to
adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it,
as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something.  I'll use your answer
for those folks.  It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if
you know what I mean!

Maureen


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From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a
little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and
power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means,
but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I
have for them is because I can, and that obligates me.  I make no money of
course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That
vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know him.

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Chris Macke
I help both and the kitties are much more appreciative.

Chris 

  - Original Message - 
  From: GRAS 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


  When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don't help 
people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not 
mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My 
question to them is, do you help people?,  which often catches them off guard 
because they probably don't.

  I'm so glad that I never came across a veterinarian like that, although I've 
heard of some jerks like that around here..

  Natalie

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

   

  Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time.  I hate it 
when it does that.




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  From: molvey...@hotmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
  Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400

  Ha, ha - I love it!!!  You sound as pissed off as I was.  Believe me he is on 
my shitlist too.  I was boiling about it for days.  Matter of fact I was just 
telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking 
about it.

  I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die.  I don't know.  
He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to 
give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could 
get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP.  I didn't give him a chance to 
send me away with nothing.  Course, at the time other than the fever she was 
doing okay.  Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and 
everything although she had lost some weight.  So she wasn't in any pain.  But 
I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about 
that anyway.  The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as 
the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some 
antibiotics that aren't even that expensive.  He's such a dumbass.  I didn't 
know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked 
him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her.  So if 
he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care.  He 
figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing 
any kind of tests or treatments on her.  I'm surprised he didn't suggest 
killing her.  BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at 
that point it would have been just killing her.

  I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals.  I'm going to 
steal it.  Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals 
so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, 
etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's 
a bad thing or beneath me or something.  I'll use your answer for those folks.  
It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean!

  Maureen



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  From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
  Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

  What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a 
little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and 
power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but 
when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for 
them is because I can, and that obligates me.  I make no money of course, but 
I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and 
is on my shitlist and I don't even know him.

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2010. 

   



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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Beth
A lot of times you ARE helping people by helping animals. When you do 
spay/neuter for low income people or take animals from people who have fallen 
on hard times  can no longer care for their animals you are helping the 
animals  the people.

Beth

 
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 From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 

When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don’t help 
people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not 
mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My 
question to them is, “do you help people?”,  which often catches them off guard 
because they probably don’t…
I’m so glad that I never came across a veterinarian like that, although I’ve 
heard of some jerks like that around here….
Natalie
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 
Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time.  I hate it when 
it does that.





From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400
Ha, ha - I love it!!!  You sound as pissed off as I was.  Believe me he is on 
my shitlist too.  I was boiling about it for days.  Matter of fact I was just 
telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking 
about it.

I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die.  I don't know.  
He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to 
give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could 
get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP.  I didn't give him a chance to 
send me away with nothing.  Course, at the time other than the fever she was 
doing okay.  Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and 
everything although she had lost some weight.  So she wasn't in any pain.  But 
I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about 
that anyway.  The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as 
the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some 
antibiotics that aren't even that expensive.  He's such a dumbass.  I didn't 
know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked 
him about it he said he had
 thought about it when he was looking at her.  So if he thought about it and 
didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care.  He figured with FeLV she's 
going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of tests or 
treatments on her.  I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her.  BTW - it's 
not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point it would have 
been just killing her.

I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals.  I'm going to steal 
it.  Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I 
run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) 
but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad 
thing or beneath me or something.  I'll use your answer for those folks.  It's 
probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean!

Maureen




From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little 
helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do 
just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people 
ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is 
because I can, and that obligates me.  I make no money of course, but I spend 
plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on my 
shitlist and I don't even know him.

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey

I said the exact same thing to my mother-in-law.  She's a wonderful person but 
totally doesn't get the whole animal rescue thing.  She loves animals but not 
like we do.  But I think that comment from her came when we were discussing me 
giving up meat.  That was just too radical for her I guess.  It's the deep 
South so what can you expect?  They kill and eat anything that moves down here! 
 

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 16:24:05 -0400
From: g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don’t help 
people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not 
mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My 
question to them is, “do you help people?”,  which often catches them off guard 
because they probably don’t…I’m so glad that I never came across a veterinarian 
like that, although I’ve heard of some jerks like that around 
here….NatalieFrom: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Had to send this again because it 
bounced back the first time.  I hate it when it does that.

From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400Ha, ha - I love it!!!  You sound as pissed 
off as I was.  Believe me he is on my shitlist too.  I was boiling about it for 
days.  Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him this morning 
and I got pissed off again thinking about it.

I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die.  I don't know.  
He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to 
give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could 
get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP.  I didn't give him a chance to 
send me away with nothing.  Course, at the time other than the fever she was 
doing okay.  Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and 
everything although she had lost some weight.  So she wasn't in any pain.  But 
I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about 
that anyway.  The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as 
the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with some 
antibiotics that aren't even that expensive.  He's such a dumbass.  I didn't 
know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when I asked 
him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at her.  So if 
he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care.  He 
figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing 
any kind of tests or treatments on her.  I'm surprised he didn't suggest 
killing her.  BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at 
that point it would have been just killing her.

I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals.  I'm going to steal 
it.  Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I 
run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) 
but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad 
thing or beneath me or something.  I'll use your answer for those folks.  It's 
probably better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean!

Maureen
From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?What the hell is wrong with this vet, 
that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel 
better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not 
tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for 
animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates 
me.  I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down 
to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know 
him.

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey

I totally agree!  Many people don't have anyone else but their pet and they 
love them dearly so if you can help them with vet bills, food, or taking the 
animals if they can't keep them anymore then it means the world to them.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:55:29 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

A lot of times you ARE helping people by helping animals. When you do 
spay/neuter for low income people or take animals from people who have fallen 
on hard times  can no longer care for their animals you are helping the 
animals  the people.
Beth
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
   

When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don’t help 
people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not 
mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My 
question to them is, “do you help people?”,  which often catches them off guard 
because they probably don’t…I’m so glad that I never came across a veterinarian 
like that, although I’ve heard of some jerks like that around 
here….NatalieFrom: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?  Had to send this again because it 
bounced back the first time.  I hate it when it does that.

From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400Ha, ha - I love it!!!  You sound as
 pissed off as I was.  Believe me he is on my shitlist too.  I was boiling 
about it for days.  Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about him 
this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it.

I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die.  I don't know.  
He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him to 
give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I could 
get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP.  I didn't give him a chance to 
send me away with nothing.  Course, at the time other than the fever she was 
doing okay.  Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was still eating and 
everything although she had lost some weight.  So she wasn't in any pain.  But 
I think with a temperature of 104 he would have wanted to do something about 
that anyway.  The thing is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same
 symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was that it could be treated with 
some antibiotics that aren't even that expensive.  He's such a dumbass.  I 
didn't know that the symptoms were the same until a couple days later and when 
I asked him about it he said he had thought about it when he was looking at 
her.  So if he thought about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't 
care.  He figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend 
money doing any kind of tests or treatments on her.  I'm surprised he didn't 
suggest killing her.  BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering 
so at that point it would have been just killing her.

I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals.  I'm going to steal 
it.  Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals so I 
run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, etc.) 
but every
 now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though it's a bad thing or 
beneath me or something.  I'll use your answer for those folks.  It's probably 
better than what I normally say to them, if you know what I mean!

Maureen
From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?What the hell is wrong with this vet, 
that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel 
better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not 
tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for 
animals, the only answer I have for them is because I can, and that obligates 
me.  I make no money of course, but I spend plenty. I guess it all boils down 
to caring enough. That vet would and is on my shitlist and I don't even know 
him.

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey

You got that right.  And they don't turn down the help or act like they don't 
need it.  It's harder to help people because half the time they won't accept 
your offers of help.  A cat or dog would never turn down charity.  You put food 
in front of them and they're going to eat and not be too prideful or act all 
offended or something like us humans have been known to do.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 From: c.mac...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 16:50:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?










I help both and the kitties are much more 
appreciative.
 
Chris 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  GRAS 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it 
  be?
  

  
  When people ask me 
  why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don’t help people instead 
  (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not mutually exclusive 
  and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My question to them 
  is, “do you help people?”,  which often catches them off guard because 
  they probably don’t…
  I’m so glad that I 
  never came across a veterinarian like that, although I’ve heard of some jerks 
  like that around here….
  Natalie
  
  
  From: 
  felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen 
  Olvey
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:58 PM
To: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it 
  be?
   
  
  
  Had to send this 
  again because it bounced back the first time.  I hate it when it does 
  that.


  
  
  
  From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: 
  RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400
  Ha, ha - I 
  love it!!!  You sound as pissed 
  off as I was.  Believe me he is on my shitlist too.  I was boiling 
  about it for days.  Matter of fact I was just telling my co-worker about 
  him this morning and I got pissed off again thinking about it.

I guess 
  he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die.  I don't 
  know.  He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I 
  wanted him to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other 
  vet so I could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP.  I didn't 
  give him a chance to send me away with nothing.  Course, at the time 
  other than the fever she was doing okay.  Although she was wobbly on her 
  back legs she was still eating and everything although she had lost some 
  weight.  So she wasn't in any pain.  But I think with a temperature 
  of 104 he would have wanted to do something about that anyway.  The thing 
  is that like toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and 
  if it was that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even 
that 
  expensive.  He's such a dumbass.  I didn't know that the symptoms 
  were the same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said 
  he had thought about it when he was looking at her.  So if he thought 
  about it and didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care.  He 
  figured with FeLV she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing 
  any kind of tests or treatments on her.  I'm surprised he didn't suggest 
  killing her.  BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering 
  so at that point it would have been just killing her.

I like your 
  answer about doing what you do for the animals.  I'm going to steal 
  it.  Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed ferals 
  so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to adoptions, 
  etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, as though 
  it's a bad thing or beneath me or something.  I'll use your answer for 
  those folks.  It's probably better than what I normally say to them, if 
  you know what I mean!

Maureen

  
  
  
  From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
Date: 
  Tue, 8 May 2012 12:14:58 -0500
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: 
  Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
  
  
  
  What the hell is 
  wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless 
  suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just 
  that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask 
  me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I have for them is 
because 
  I can, and that obligates me.  I make no money of course, but I spend 
  plenty. I guess it all boils down to caring enough. That vet would and is on 
  my shitlist and I don't even know him.

Sent from my iPad that my most

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread Lynda Wilson
Wow! I'm so very sorry the vet treated you and your kitty that way. I totally 
agree with your statement. He should have let you decide if you wanted to spend 
the money!! 

Are you thinking about taking her somewhere else next time she needs fluids, 
etc? I hope her fever does not return so she can feel well enough to enjoy 
herself.

Thank goodness she has you to take care of her and to feel your love.

Bless your heart, Maureen!!

Lynda
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maureen Olvey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


  He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He just was trying 
to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being logical about 
spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same time I couldn't 
believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without anything but a quick 
physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed it was. He 
just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die anyway so don't 
waste money on her.

  I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a majority of kittens that have it 
but it doesn't mean you don't at least try to help them. He should have at 
least wanted to see if what was wrong with her had anything that could be 
treated and then let us know the cost and let us decide whether we wanted to 
spend money on her.

  Maureen

  “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
   


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  Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


  Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm 
so sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't 
get a vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. 
I do hope that she makes it and is not suffering.

  Glad to hear though that she is eating treats and getting your love. I know 
you are doing everything possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :)

  I hope she gets better, I really do.

  Thanks for the update!
  Lynda
- Original Message - 
From: molvey...@hotmail.com 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update.

Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets.  The kind  that looks 
at her symptoms and says it all  FeLV related without doing any test. He said 
she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's 
money by doing any tests.  I told him not to worry about it because I was 
paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work .  So he did and she 
doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as 
I suspected .  She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids .  I have 
no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it.  I guess because 
he just wanted me to let her die.  Another vet on my blacklist.   I guess it's 
just another cat to him.  Won't be seeing that SOB again.

It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in 
contact with a vet at the university of  TN that is going to let me try a new 
drug for the dry form  of FIP.  It's not on the market yet but the clinical 
trials look good.  I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a 
difference for my kitten but it's worth a try.  The drug is actually an immune 
stimulant called polyprenyl immunostimulant.  Since my kitten has FeLV in 
addition to FIP it may not help.  But she's going to die anyway so why not try 
it.

She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on 
her hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis.   I don't know how much longer 
she has.  I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and 
treats.

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From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm


Maureen,

How is she today? Any updates?

Best wishes!
Lynda

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread Beth
I'm so sorry you had this experience. My last 2 vets have treated my FeLV cats 
like any other. Treating the symptoms like they would any other cat, not 
writing everything off to FeLV. I guess I've been lucky.

Beth 

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 

finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update.

Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets.  The kind  that looks at 
her symptoms and says it all  FeLV related without doing any test. He said 
she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's 
money by doing any tests.  I told him not to worry about it because I was 
paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work .  So he did and she 
doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as 
I suspected .  She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids .  I have 
no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it.  I guess because 
he just wanted me to let her die.  Another vet on my blacklist.   I guess it's 
just another cat to him.  Won't be seeing that SOB again.

It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in contact 
with a vet at the university of  TN that is going to let me try a new drug for 
the dry form  of FIP.  It's not on the market yet but the clinical trials look 
good.  I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a difference for my 
kitten but it's worth a try.  The drug is actually an immune stimulant called 
polyprenyl immunostimulant.  Since my kitten has FeLV in addition to FIP it may 
not help.  But she's going to die anyway so why not try it.

She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on her 
hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis.   I don't know how much longer she 
has.  I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and 
treats.

Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT

- Reply message -
From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm


Maureen,

How is she today? Any updates?

Best wishes!
Lynda
- Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


 My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine.  I let him out  
 one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get  
 up.  He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself  
 into the shade.  When I tried to pick him up, he screamed.  We took him to  
 Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away.  They did and MRI and all  
 kinds of tests.  We finally let him go because he was so old and would not  
 have been able to make it thru surgery.

  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

 Lorrie


 On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
     I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven   
  months
     old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with   
  uveitis.
      The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not   
  sure
     what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not   
  bad
     enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's   
  like
     she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but   
  her
     back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.   
  She's
     eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play  
   as
     much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a   
  real
     mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's   
  not
     as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.   
  The
     other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she   
  has.
     So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly  
   in
     the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed  
   as
     the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if   
  she's
     anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's   
  office
     was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the   
  vet
     I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
     Maureen

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread Maureen Olvey

Those are the kind of vets I love and respect.  It's too bad they're not all 
like that.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 06:22:22 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

I'm so sorry you had this experience. My last 2 vets have treated my FeLV cats 
like any other. Treating the symptoms like they would any other cat, not 
writing everything off to FeLV. I guess I've been lucky.
Beth 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
From: molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 9:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
   

finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update.

Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets.  The kind  that looks at 
her symptoms and says it all  FeLV related without doing any test. He said 
she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's 
money by doing any tests.  I told him not to worry about it because I was 
paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work .  So he did and she 
doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as 
I suspected .  She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids .  I have 
no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it.  I guess because 
he just wanted me to let her die.  Another vet on my blacklist.   I guess it's 
just another cat to him.  Won't be seeing that SOB again.

It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been
 in contact with a vet at the university of  TN that is going to let me try a 
new drug for the dry form  of FIP.  It's not on the market yet but the clinical 
trials look good.  I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a 
difference for my kitten but it's worth a try.  The drug is actually an immune 
stimulant called polyprenyl immunostimulant.  Since my kitten has FeLV in 
addition to FIP it may not help.  But she's going to die anyway so why not try 
it.

She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on her 
hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis.   I don't know how much longer she 
has.  I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and 
treats.

Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT

- Reply message -
From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk]
 What could it be?
Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm


Maureen,

How is she today? Any updates?

Best wishes!
Lynda
- Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


 My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine.  I let him out  
 one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get  
 up.  He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself  
 into the shade.  When I tried to pick him up, he screamed.  We took him to  
 Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away.  They did and MRI and all  
 kinds of tests.  We finally let him go because he was so old and would not  
 have been able to make it thru surgery.

  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 wrote:
 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

 Lorrie


 On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven   
  months
 old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with   
  uveitis.
  The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not   
  sure
 what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not   
  bad
 enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I
 can see it.  It's   like
 she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but   
  her
 back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.   
  She's
 eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play  
   as
 much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a   
  real
 mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's   
  not
 as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.   
  The
 other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she   
  has.
 So  any
  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly   in
 the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread Maureen Olvey

Oh no - I won't be going back to him.  Too many other vets in the area.  The 
humane society has several other vets that we use so I don't have to go back to 
him.  He's not even the cheapest vet, although his clinic does give us a good 
discount.
 
I've got some friends who are vet techs that can give her fluids if necessary.
 
I'm going to be getting some of that new drug to treat FIP.  Course I'm not 
100% sure it's FIP because we only did one of several test.  I guess there's 
other diseases that can mimic the dry form of FIP.  I just feel sure it's FIP 
though.  The newer drug is an immune stimulant so it's not going to hurt to try 
it anyway.  I'm comtemplating taking her to another vet to rule out the 
diseases that mimic FIP.  If I had a money tree in my back yard it would make 
the decision easy.  Seems like I read that toxoplasmosis can mimic some of the 
symptoms of the dry form of FIP.  I should call and check out the costs of 
whatever test they do to check for that.  
 
Course I know this new drug is not likely to help if it's FIP because she's got 
FeLV too.  Both diseases combined make her chances of survival very slim.  But 
I'll have the peace of mind knowing I tried.  She's still eating although it's 
only a little at a time.  I bought her some of that nutri-cal to give her extra 
calories.  I can tell she feels better since the fever came down.  I'm just 
spending as much time as I can with her and giving her lots of canned food and 
some chicken and other extra treats.  If it's the end for her we'll just make 
sure she goes out with a bang.
 
Thanks for your good wishes.  Since my dog died in October I'm just not ready 
for another death.  But I don't have a say in these matters.  Kind of wish I 
had stayed with dogs.  Fostering them would have been more work but cats get so 
many infectious diseases that you're constantly having your heart broken.


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:06:52 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?








Wow! I'm so very sorry the vet 
treated you and your kitty that way. I totally agree with your statement. He 
should have let you decide if you wanted to spend the money!! 
 
Are you thinking about taking her 
somewhere else next time she needs fluids, etc? I hope her fever does not 
return 
so she can feel well enough to enjoy herself.
 
Thank goodness she has you to take 
care of her and to feel your love.
 
Bless your heart, 
Maureen!!
 
Lynda

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Maureen 
  Olvey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:36 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it 
  be?
  

  He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He 
  just was trying to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being 
  logical about spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same 
time 
  I couldn't believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without anything 
  but a quick physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed 
  it was. He just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die 
anyway 
  so don't waste money on her.

I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a 
  majority of kittens that have it but it doesn't mean you don't at least try 
to 
  help them. He should have at least wanted to see if what was wrong with her 
  had anything that could be treated and then let us know the cost and let us 
  decide whether we wanted to spend money on 
  her.

Maureen

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection 
  produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain 
  which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
  it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking 
  further.” – Mark Twain
 

  
  
  
  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: 
  Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it 
  be?


  

  Darn those shelter vets! 
  It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so sorry that you are 
  dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a vet that cares. 
  Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do hope that she 
  makes it and is not suffering.
   
  Glad to hear though that 
  she is eating treats and getting your love. I know you are doing everything 
  possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :)
   
  I hope she gets better, I 
  really do.
   
  Thanks for the 
  update!
  Lynda

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread Natalie
I responded to this last night, but forgot to erase all the mail attached
and it was not deliverable - too large.

The clot was more likely in the artery that branches to each hind leg, makes
them unable to move them.
I've had many cats with this condition, always happened at night, weekend,
when my vet wasn't available.  Each time, the cat was euthanized at an
emergency clinic - some screamed in pain, others didn't.
The last one was found in one of our large cat condos for feral/semi feral
cats a few years ago in the morning, not able to move. Corgi was feral cat
and I had to throw a towel over him to catch him - he pulled himself around
by front legs.
My vet dissolved his clot, after being confined in a small area for
recuperation about a month, I was able to introduce him to a sweet group of
cats - now he is the most lovable, affectionate cat, all cats adore him.  He
has a slight limp on one hind leg, but that's all.
Natalie


Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. 


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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO

One of my Felk kittens, Orphie has dry form of FIP and using the experimental 
drug PI - we are seeing some success treating dry from of FIP with this drug 
- pls let me know if I can do any to help.
 



To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
From: molvey...@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 22:34:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

Yeah, got some updates but I'm too tired to explain.  I'll write back in the 
morning.  It does look like it's the dry form of FIP.  Getting an experimental 
drug to try.  Anyway, more later.  Thanks for asking.

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From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm


Maureen,

How is she today? Any updates?

Best wishes!
Lynda
- Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


 My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine.  I let him out  
 one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get  
 up.  He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself  
 into the shade.  When I tried to pick him up, he screamed.  We took him to  
 Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away.  They did and MRI and all  
 kinds of tests.  We finally let him go because he was so old and would not  
 have been able to make it thru surgery.

  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

 Lorrie


 

 
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread Heather
I hated to but was just about to reply suggesting that as a possibility as
wellI am so sorry that you are dealing with FELV let alone having to
consider FIP.   We lost the kitty we consider our first real rescue
(adopted out to a friend) to FIP, she was the happiest, healthiest seeming
kitty you could imagine, it broke our hearts for sure.

Thank you for loving this little girl, please keep us posted.  There is a
FIP group, I am on it, here is a link:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/

Please know that many thoughts are with you!

Heather



On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:08 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com 
molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP.  I read a lot about it
 last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form.  I'll give a
 few more details later.  It breaks my heart.


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 - Reply message -
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm


 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

 Lorrie


 On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months
 old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.
  The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure
 what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad
 enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's like
 she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but her
 back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.  She's
 eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as
 much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real
 mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not
 as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The
 other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.
 So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in
 the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as
 the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's
 anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office
 was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet
 I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
 Maureen

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread Maureen Olvey

That's encouraging to hear.  I'll get my PI tomorrow and will start her on it 
right away.  I really hope it helps and buys her a little more time.  If it 
doesn't at least I tried my best and that will help a little when it's time to 
let her go.  It's still going to hurt though.  She is the sweetest thing.  
She's in my lap right now.  She must know I'm talking about her. Are you using 
prednisolone too or just the PI?  Dr. Legendre didn't think I should unless 
absolutely necessary, like to get her to eat.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:09:27 -0600
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?





One of my Felk kittens, Orphie has dry form of FIP and using the experimental 
drug PI - we are seeing some success treating dry from of FIP with this drug 
- pls let me know if I can do any to help.
 




To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
From: molvey...@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 22:34:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

Yeah, got some updates but I'm too tired to explain.  I'll write back in the 
morning.  It does look like it's the dry form of FIP.  Getting an experimental 
drug to try.  Anyway, more later.  Thanks for asking.

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From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm


Maureen,

How is she today? Any updates?

Best wishes!
Lynda
- Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


 My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine.  I let him out  
 one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get  
 up.  He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself  
 into the shade.  When I tried to pick him up, he screamed.  We took him to  
 Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away.  They did and MRI and all  
 kinds of tests.  We finally let him go because he was so old and would not  
 have been able to make it thru surgery.

  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread Maureen Olvey

Thank you so much for your good thoughts.  Several years ago I lost a feral 
that I fed to FIP.  It was the wet form so it was easy to diagnose.  It broke 
my heart then too and he didn't even live with me.  But he got so weak that I 
was able to love on him and when they euthanized him I was holding him.  That 
was my first experience with this stupid disease. I joined an FIP group 
yesterday but haven't even had time to post or look through the files very 
much.  I might join the group you're in too.  These groups are so helpful and 
I've learned so much.  Unfortunately I've learned more than I ever wanted to 
experience, if you know what I mean.  I wish I didn't have a reason to read up 
on FIP.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 18:23:08 -0400
From: furrygi...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

I hated to but was just about to reply suggesting that as a possibility as 
wellI am so sorry that you are dealing with FELV let alone having to 
consider FIP.   We lost the kitty we consider our first real rescue (adopted 
out to a friend) to FIP, she was the happiest, healthiest seeming kitty you 
could imagine, it broke our hearts for sure.



Thank you for loving this little girl, please keep us posted.  There is a FIP 
group, I am on it, here is a link:  http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/

Please know that many thoughts are with you!


Heather



On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:08 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP.  I read a lot about it last 
night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form.  I'll give a few more 
details later.  It breaks my heart.



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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm



I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

Lorrie




On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months

old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.
 The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure
what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad


enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's like
she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but her
back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.  She's


eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as
much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real
mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not


as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The
other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.
So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in


the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as
the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's
anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office


was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet
I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
Maureen


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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread dlgegg
Once again, I am so glad I have my vet.  He tells me the different courses of 
treatment and then it is up to me to choose.  Plus, he really cares about his 
patients.
 Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Oh no - I won't be going back to him.  Too many other vets in the area.  The 
 humane society has several other vets that we use so I don't have to go back 
 to him.  He's not even the cheapest vet, although his clinic does give us a 
 good discount.
  
 I've got some friends who are vet techs that can give her fluids if necessary.
  
 I'm going to be getting some of that new drug to treat FIP.  Course I'm not 
 100% sure it's FIP because we only did one of several test.  I guess there's 
 other diseases that can mimic the dry form of FIP.  I just feel sure it's FIP 
 though.  The newer drug is an immune stimulant so it's not going to hurt to 
 try it anyway.  I'm comtemplating taking her to another vet to rule out the 
 diseases that mimic FIP.  If I had a money tree in my back yard it would make 
 the decision easy.  Seems like I read that toxoplasmosis can mimic some of 
 the symptoms of the dry form of FIP.  I should call and check out the costs 
 of whatever test they do to check for that.  
  
 Course I know this new drug is not likely to help if it's FIP because she's 
 got FeLV too.  Both diseases combined make her chances of survival very slim. 
  But I'll have the peace of mind knowing I tried.  She's still eating 
 although it's only a little at a time.  I bought her some of that nutri-cal 
 to give her extra calories.  I can tell she feels better since the fever came 
 down.  I'm just spending as much time as I can with her and giving her lots 
 of canned food and some chicken and other extra treats.  If it's the end for 
 her we'll just make sure she goes out with a bang.
  
 Thanks for your good wishes.  Since my dog died in October I'm just not ready 
 for another death.  But I don't have a say in these matters.  Kind of wish I 
 had stayed with dogs.  Fostering them would have been more work but cats get 
 so many infectious diseases that you're constantly having your heart broken.
 
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:06:52 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Wow! I'm so very sorry the vet 
 treated you and your kitty that way. I totally agree with your statement. He 
 should have let you decide if you wanted to spend the money!! 
  
 Are you thinking about taking her 
 somewhere else next time she needs fluids, etc? I hope her fever does not 
 return 
 so she can feel well enough to enjoy herself.
  
 Thank goodness she has you to take 
 care of her and to feel your love.
  
 Bless your heart, 
 Maureen!!
  
 Lynda
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: 
   Maureen 
   Olvey 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   
   Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:36 
   PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it 
   be?
   
 
   He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He 
   just was trying to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being 
   logical about spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same 
 time 
   I couldn't believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without 
 anything 
   but a quick physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just 
 assumed 
   it was. He just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die 
 anyway 
   so don't waste money on her.
 
 I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a 
   majority of kittens that have it but it doesn't mean you don't at least try 
 to 
   help them. He should have at least wanted to see if what was wrong with her 
   had anything that could be treated and then let us know the cost and let us 
   decide whether we wanted to spend money on 
   her.
 
 Maureen
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection 
   produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain 
   which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity 
 toward 
   it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking 
   further.” – Mark Twain
  
 
   
   
   
   From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: 
   Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it 
   be?
 
 
   
 
   Darn those shelter vets! 
   It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so sorry that you are 
   dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a vet that 
 cares. 
   Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do hope that 
 she 
   makes it and is not suffering.

   Glad

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-02 Thread molveywda
finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update.

Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets.  The kind  that looks at 
her symptoms and says it all  FeLV related without doing any test. He said 
she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's 
money by doing any tests.  I told him not to worry about it because I was 
paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work .  So he did and she 
doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as 
I suspected .  She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids .  I have 
no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it.  I guess because 
he just wanted me to let her die.  Another vet on my blacklist.   I guess it's 
just another cat to him.  Won't be seeing that SOB again.

It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in contact 
with a vet at the university of  TN that is going to let me try a new drug for 
the dry form  of FIP.  It's not on the market yet but the clinical trials look 
good.  I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a difference for my 
kitten but it's worth a try.  The drug is actually an immune stimulant called 
polyprenyl immunostimulant.  Since my kitten has FeLV in addition to FIP it may 
not help.  But she's going to die anyway so why not try it.

She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on her 
hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis.   I don't know how much longer she 
has.  I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and 
treats.

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From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm


Maureen,

How is she today? Any updates?

Best wishes!
Lynda
- Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


 My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine.  I let him out  
 one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get  
 up.  He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself  
 into the shade.  When I tried to pick him up, he screamed.  We took him to  
 Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away.  They did and MRI and all  
 kinds of tests.  We finally let him go because he was so old and would not  
 have been able to make it thru surgery.

  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

 Lorrie


 On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven   
  months
 old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with   
  uveitis.
  The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not   
  sure
 what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not   
  bad
 enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's   
  like
 she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but   
  her
 back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.   
  She's
 eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play  
   as
 much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a   
  real
 mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's   
  not
 as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.   
  The
 other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she   
  has.
 So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly  
   in
 the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed  
   as
 the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if   
  she's
 anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's   
  office
 was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the   
  vet
 I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
 Maureen

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-02 Thread Lynda Wilson
Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so 
sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a 
vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do 
hope that she makes it and is not suffering.

Glad to hear though that she is eating treats and getting your love. I know you 
are doing everything possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :)

I hope she gets better, I really do.

Thanks for the update!
Lynda
  - Original Message - 
  From: molvey...@hotmail.com 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


  finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an update.

  Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets.  The kind  that looks at 
her symptoms and says it all  FeLV related without doing any test. He said 
she's not going to live long and didn't want to waste the humane society's 
money by doing any tests.  I told him not to worry about it because I was 
paying for the test and I wanted him to do blood work .  So he did and she 
doesn't have anemia but her protein levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as 
I suspected .  She had a fever so I ask him to give her sub q fluids .  I have 
no idea why I had to ask for fluids and he didn't suggest it.  I guess because 
he just wanted me to let her die.  Another vet on my blacklist.   I guess it's 
just another cat to him.  Won't be seeing that SOB again.

  It was important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in 
contact with a vet at the university of  TN that is going to let me try a new 
drug for the dry form  of FIP.  It's not on the market yet but the clinical 
trials look good.  I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a 
difference for my kitten but it's worth a try.  The drug is actually an immune 
stimulant called polyprenyl immunostimulant.  Since my kitten has FeLV in 
addition to FIP it may not help.  But she's going to die anyway so why not try 
it.

  She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but she's still wobbly on her 
hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis.   I don't know how much longer she 
has.  I'm so depressed about it, but I'm giving her lots of attention and 
treats.

  Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT

  - Reply message -
  From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
  Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm


  Maureen,

  How is she today? Any updates?

  Best wishes!
  Lynda
  - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


   My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine.  I let him out  
one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get  up.  
He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself  into the 
shade.  When I tried to pick him up, he screamed.  We took him to  Missouri 
Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away.  They did and MRI and all  kinds of 
tests.  We finally let him go because he was so old and would not  have been 
able to make it thru surgery.
  
    Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
   I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
   this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
   in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.
  
   Lorrie
  
  
   On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
   I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven   
months
   old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with   
uveitis.
The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not  
 sure
   what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not  
 bad
   enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's  
 like
   she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but  
 her
   back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.   
She's
   eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play 
  as
   much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a  
 real
   mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's  
 not
   as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  
 The
   other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she  
 has.
   So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly 
  in
   the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed 
  as
   the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if   
she's
   anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's   
office
   was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the  
 vet
   I'd

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-02 Thread Maureen Olvey

He's not even a shelter vet.  He doesn't volunteer with us.  He just was trying 
to tell us how to spend our money.  I know he's just being logical about 
spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same time I couldn't 
believe he didn't even care about her fever.  But without anything but a quick 
physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed it was. He 
just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die anyway so don't 
waste money on her.

I'm still pissed.   Yes I know FeLV kills a majority of kittens that have it 
but it doesn't mean you don't at least try to help them.  He should have at 
least wanted to see if what was wrong with her had anything that could be 
treated and then let us know the cost and let us decide whether we wanted to 
spend money on her.

Maureen

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profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?








Darn those shelter vets! It 
sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so sorry that you are dealing 
with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a vet that cares. Bless your 
heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do hope that she makes it and 
is not suffering.
 
Glad to hear though that 
she is eating treats and getting your love. I know you are doing everything 
possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :)
 
I hope she gets better, I 
really do.
 
Thanks for the 
update!
Lynda

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  molvey...@hotmail.com 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:20 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it 
  be?
  
finally I have a quick minute to give you guys an 
  update.

Yesterday I took the kitten to one of those vets.  The 
  kind  that looks at her symptoms and says it all  FeLV related 
  without doing any test. He said she's not going to live long and didn't want 
  to waste the humane society's money by doing any tests.  I told him not 
  to worry about it because I was paying for the test and I wanted him to do 
  blood work .  So he did and she doesn't have anemia but her protein 
  levels are elevated which suggests FIP, as I suspected .  She had a fever 
  so I ask him to give her sub q fluids .  I have no idea why I had to ask 
  for fluids and he didn't suggest it.  I guess because he just wanted me 
  to let her die.  Another vet on my blacklist.   I guess it's just 
  another cat to him.  Won't be seeing that SOB again.

It was 
  important for me to get a diagnosis of FIP because I've been in contact with 
a 
  vet at the university of  TN that is going to let me try a new drug for 
  the dry form  of FIP.  It's not on the market yet but the clinical 
  trials look good.  I don't know if I will get the drug in time to make a 
  difference for my kitten but it's worth a try.  The drug is actually an 
  immune stimulant called polyprenyl immunostimulant.  Since my kitten has 
  FeLV in addition to FIP it may not help.  But she's going to die anyway 
  so why not try it.

She's feeling better now that her fever is gone but 
  she's still wobbly on her hind legs and now the other eye has uveitis.   
  I don't know how much longer she has.  I'm so depressed about it, but I'm 
  giving her lots of attention and treats.

Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G 
  on ATT

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From: Lynda Wilson 
  longhornf...@verizon.net
To: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it 
  be?
Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm


Maureen,

How is she 
  today? Any updates?

Best wishes!
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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-01 Thread dlgegg
My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine.  I let him out one 
morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get up.  He 
had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself into the 
shade.  When I tried to pick him up, he screamed.  We took him to Missouri 
Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away.  They did and MRI and all kinds of 
tests.  We finally let him go because he was so old and would not have been 
able to make it thru surgery.

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months
 old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.
  The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure
 what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad
 enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's like
 she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but her
 back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.  She's
 eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as
 much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real
 mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not
 as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The
 other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.
 So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in
 the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as
 the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's
 anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office
 was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet
 I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
 Maureen
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-01 Thread Lynda Wilson

Maureen,

How is she today? Any updates?

Best wishes!
Lynda
- Original Message - 
From: dlg...@windstream.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine.  I let him out 
one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get 
up.  He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself 
into the shade.  When I tried to pick him up, he screamed.  We took him to 
Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away.  They did and MRI and all 
kinds of tests.  We finally let him go because he was so old and would not 
have been able to make it thru surgery.


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

Lorrie


On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven 
 months
old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with 
 uveitis.
 The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not 
 sure
what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not 
 bad
enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's 
 like
she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but 
 her
back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking. 
 She's
eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play 
 as
much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a 
 real
mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's 
 not
as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too. 
 The
other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she 
 has.
So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly 
 in
the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed 
 as
the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if 
 she's
anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's 
 office
was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the 
 vet

I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
Maureen

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-01 Thread molveywda
Yeah, got some updates but I'm too tired to explain.  I'll write back in the 
morning.  It does look like it's the dry form of FIP.  Getting an experimental 
drug to try.  Anyway, more later.  Thanks for asking.

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From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm
Maureen,

How is she today? Any updates?

Best wishes!
Lynda
- Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


 My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine.  I let him out  
 one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get  
 up.  He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself  
 into the shade.  When I tried to pick him up, he screamed.  We took him to  
 Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away.  They did and MRI and all  
 kinds of tests.  We finally let him go because he was so old and would not  
 have been able to make it thru surgery.

  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

 Lorrie


 

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-29 Thread molveywda
I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP.  I read a lot about it last 
night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form.  I'll give a few more 
details later.  It breaks my heart.

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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm


I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

Lorrie


On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months
old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.
 The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure
what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad
enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's like
she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but her
back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.  She's
eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as
much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real
mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not
as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The
other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.
So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in
the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as
the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's
anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office
was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet
I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
Maureen

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-29 Thread Lorrie
Unfortunately this adorable FelV pos. kitten died a week or so later.
She was only 6 month old and had seemed fine up to the leg problem.
This loss of the back legs seems to be fairly common with FelV cats
and kittens.


On 04-28, Maureen Olvey wrote:
I  don't  like the sound of this.  What happened?  Did the kittens die
shortly after they lost use of their back legs?  Did you ever find out
what  causes  it?   I've  been telling myself that she'll probably die
young  and  not  to be surprised if it happens before she's a year old
but  I  can't help but love her and want to keep her around as long as
possible.

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-29 Thread Lynda Wilson
The in-office bloodwork would show if her glucose was above normal. If you have 
a copy of it, it should be between 80-150. I'm sure though if it was above 
this, your vet should have told you.  If it were my kitty, I would repeat the 
bloodwork, lots can change in 2 mos.

I hope you get some answers and that it's treatable - whatever it may be. I 
truly hope she clears the FeLV as well!!

Many good wishes your way!
Lynda
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maureen Olvey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


  She's not really walking on her hocks like they say diabetics do.  I 
haven't noticed a lot of drinking either.  But I'll definitely have that 
checked out just in case.  The bloodword that was done wasn't sent out to the 
lab.  It was just the real basic stuff like in the vet's office so I don't know 
if that would show diabetes or not.

  “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
   


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  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


  Maureen, 

  Get her to the vet ASAP, it could be diabetesI treated my cat for it for 
over 8 yrs. 

  Lynda
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From: molvey...@hotmail.com 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:51 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months old.  
She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.  The uveitis 
never has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure what's going on.  Her 
back legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed 
yet, but I can see it.  It's like she's slightly drunk.  She's walking okay 
with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's 
walking.  She's eating and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and 
play as much as the other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real 
mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as 
playful.  I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The other kitten 
her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.

So any ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the 
back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others.  
I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what.  A 
couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay.  I assume this is 
FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some 
ideas of what's going on.

Maureen


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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-29 Thread Lynda Wilson
Oh no! I certainly hope not!! Are you going to get her tested?

Sending prayers your way!

Lynda
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


  I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP.  I read a lot about it last 
night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form.  I'll give a few more 
details later.  It breaks my heart.

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  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
  Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm


  I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
  this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
  in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

  Lorrie


  On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
  I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months
  old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.
   The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure
  what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad
  enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's like
  she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but her
  back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.  She's
  eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as
  much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real
  mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not
  as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The
  other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.
  So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in
  the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as
  the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's
  anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office
  was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet
  I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
There's no tests for FIP, but you can try nosodes, or calling Dr. Deva
Khalsa (purportedly a vet who can cure FIP).   Try joining WholeCatHealth
for more information.   They've been discussing the Winn Foundation FIP
studies.


On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.netwrote:

 **
 Oh no! I certainly hope not!! Are you going to get her tested?

 Sending prayers your way!

 Lynda

 - Original Message -
 *From:* molvey...@hotmail.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:08 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

 I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP.  I read a lot about it
 last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form.  I'll give a
 few more details later.  It breaks my heart.

 Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT

 - Reply message -
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm


 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

 Lorrie


 On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months
 old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.
  The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure
 what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad
 enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's like
 she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but her
 back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.  She's
 eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as
 much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real
 mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not
 as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The
 other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.
 So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in
 the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as
 the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's
 anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office
 was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet
 I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
 Maureen

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-29 Thread Marcia
Yes, I remember Fletch having this problem.

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On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 Unfortunately this adorable FelV pos. kitten died a week or so later.
 She was only 6 month old and had seemed fine up to the leg problem.
 This loss of the back legs seems to be fairly common with FelV cats
 and kittens.
 
 
 On 04-28, Maureen Olvey wrote:
   I  don't  like the sound of this.  What happened?  Did the kittens die
   shortly after they lost use of their back legs?  Did you ever find out
   what  causes  it?   I've  been telling myself that she'll probably die
   young  and  not  to be surprised if it happens before she's a year old
   but  I  can't help but love her and want to keep her around as long as
   possible.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-28 Thread Lynda Wilson
Maureen, 

Get her to the vet ASAP, it could be diabetesI treated my cat for it for 
over 8 yrs. 

Lynda
  - Original Message - 
  From: molvey...@hotmail.com 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:51 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?


  I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months old.  
She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.  The uveitis 
never has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure what's going on.  Her 
back legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed 
yet, but I can see it.  It's like she's slightly drunk.  She's walking okay 
with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's 
walking.  She's eating and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and 
play as much as the other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real 
mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as 
playful.  I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The other kitten 
her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.

  So any ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back 
legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others.  I 
don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what.  A 
couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay.  I assume this is 
FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some 
ideas of what's going on.

  Maureen


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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-28 Thread Lorrie
I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

Lorrie


On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months
old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.
 The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure
what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad
enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's like
she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but her
back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.  She's
eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as
much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real
mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not
as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The
other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.
So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in
the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as
the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's
anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office
was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet
I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
Maureen

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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-28 Thread Maureen Olvey

I don't like the sound of this.  What happened?  Did the kittens die shortly 
after they lost use of their back legs?  Did you ever find out what causes it?  
I've been telling myself that she'll probably die young and not to be surprised 
if it happens before she's a year old but I can't help but love her and want to 
keep her around as long as possible.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
  Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:35:27 -0400
 From: felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 
 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months
 old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.
  The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure
 what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad
 enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's like
 she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but her
 back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.  She's
 eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as
 much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real
 mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not
 as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The
 other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.
 So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in
 the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as
 the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's
 anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office
 was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet
 I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
 Maureen
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-28 Thread Maureen Olvey

She's not really walking on her hocks like they say diabetics do.  I haven't 
noticed a lot of drinking either.  But I'll definitely have that checked out 
just in case.  The bloodword that was done wasn't sent out to the lab.  It was 
just the real basic stuff like in the vet's office so I don't know if that 
would show diabetes or not.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 08:09:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?








Maureen, 
 
Get her to the vet ASAP, it 
could be diabetesI treated my cat for it for over 8 yrs. 
 
Lynda

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  molvey...@hotmail.com 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:51 
  AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it 
  be?
  
I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or 
  seven months old.  She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with 
  uveitis.  The uveitis never has completely cleared up.  But now I'm 
  not sure what's going on.  Her back legs are kind of wobbly.  It's 
  not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's 
  like she's slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but 
  her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking.  She's 
  eating and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as 
  much as the other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real 
  mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as 
  playful.  I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too. 
   The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she 
  has.

So any ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting 
  wobbly in the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as 
  sure-footed as the others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak 
  or if she's anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the 
  vet's office was okay.  I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to 
  the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going 
  on.

Maureen


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