Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

2013-07-21 Thread dlgegg
When I was bitten by a cat, turned out to be a neighbor on next road, went to 
ER (did not think about what might happen) because blood spurting everywhere, 
they did not have Augmentin - it is too expensive to stock!  I swear, that is 
what the nurse told the doctor so he had me soak my hand in Betadne for an hour 
and then get the Augmentin at the pharmacy next day.  I had let it bleed so it 
would wash out bacteria and applied a pressure bandage.  In case that happens 
again, I had my doctor give me a script for Augmentin to keep on hand - just in 
case.  Since I rescue injured vultures, coons and others, she did not even 
question my reason, just gave it to me, especially after I told about the ER 
episode.
 Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 You would have to take a whole lot of Clavamox to make up the mgs. that you 
 would need. Augmentin is a much higher mg. dose than what is given to 
 cats.But then again, you could take as many pills to make up the difference 
 and you would not have to deal with a physician who might report you to the 
 Health Department and endanger your cat who simply had a bad fur day and bit 
 you.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






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Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:41 AM
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Hi Lorrie,

        Yes, I know, my point was that I always have Clavamox (and other Abx) 
on hand for the critters, so don't feel the need to keep the human form :). 
Since I get most of my drugs by the bottle, I often find that what I'm giving 
is actually labeled for human use.

Margo


-Original Message-
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Sent: Jun 6, 2013 7:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

Margo, you are correct. Clavamox is the vet version of Augmentin
for humans.

L.

On 06-05, Margo wrote:
 
 I keep Clavamox,  which of course is the Veterinary version of Augmentin.
 Just more convenient :)
 
 Margo
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

2013-06-26 Thread dlgegg
My mother was a nurse and a detail man once told her that human and animal meds 
are the same, they just put different labels on them.  Vet meds are cheaper 
than human.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

2013-06-07 Thread Margo



Hi Beth

 If your Vet knows you are treating, could s/he simply provide a prescription? Mine does, either writes it so I can shop it around, or for some, calls in for the $4 and free pharmacy deals.

 There are places that sell Abx without prescription, but I'm not trusting enough. Places like KVVet Supply, Valley Vet and Jeffers have accredited pharmacies, and the prices are good. I once used a place called VetServ, but don;t know if they are still in business. IIRC, they had their own "staff" vets which somehow were allowed to prescribe long distance without ever seeing the animal. They were expensive, I thought.

Margo

-Original Message- From: Betheny Laubenthal <bailleyspetc...@gmail.com>Sent: Jun 6, 2013 9:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin 
I buy fish antibiotics for my feral cats (my vet knows this). I only treat minor infections on my own with my vet's guidance. With infections that require a vet visit, I start conservative treatment until the time the appointment is (which could be up to 3 days away). I buy the 500mg pills. I always have amoxicillin, keflex and cipro on hand. I make a suspension out of the pill depending on the strength (in mgs) I need to fit into 1ml of liquid.
Anyways, is there any otc/off labeled brands of augmentin I can get?
Thank you!
--Beth

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
Actually I keep the human form, Augmentin, on hand for myself. Then all Ineed is a tetanus booster if I get bitten. If a cat bite swells up I startmyself on Augmenin. I also have Clavamox for the cats, but it is not thecorrect strength for humans. I also keep Zithromax and other Abx on hand,and I get all of them on line without an Rx.Lorrie
On 06-06, Margo wrote: Hi Lorrie, Yes, I know, my point was that I always have Clavamox (and other Abx) on hand for the critters, so don't feel the need to keep the "human" form :). Since I get most of my drugs by the bottle, I often find that what I'm giving is actually labeled for human use. Margo

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

2013-06-07 Thread Margo







 Hi Lee,

 I have Clavamox in 250 mgs and 375 mgs, as well as the 62.5 mgs that are for the cats. Augmentinseemsto be 250, 500, and 875. I can figure that :)

Margo

-Original Message- From: Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com>Sent: Jun 6, 2013 10:16 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin 
You would have to take a whole lot of Clavamox to make up the mgs. that you would need. Augmentin is a much higher mg. dose than what is given to cats.But then again, you could take as many pills to make up the difference and you would not have to deal with a physician who might report you to the Health Department and endanger your cat who simply had a bad fur day and bit you.


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Hi Lorrie,Yes, I know, my point was that I always have Clavamox (and other Abx) on hand for the critters, so don't feel the need to keep the "human" form :). Since I get most of my drugs by the bottle, I often find that what I'm giving is actually labeled for human use.Margo-Original Message-From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.comSent: Jun 6, 2013 7:11 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka AugmentinMargo, you are correct. Clavamox is the vet version of Augmentinfor humans.L.On 06-05, Margo wrote:  I keep Clavamox, which of course is the Veterinary version of Augmentin. Just more convenient :)  Margo ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

2013-06-06 Thread Lorrie
Margo, you are correct. Clavamox is the vet version of Augmentin
for humans.

L.

On 06-05, Margo wrote:
 
 I keep Clavamox,  which of course is the Veterinary version of Augmentin.
 Just more convenient :)
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

2013-06-06 Thread Margo


Hi Lorrie,

Yes, I know, my point was that I always have Clavamox (and other Abx) 
on hand for the critters, so don't feel the need to keep the human form :). 
Since I get most of my drugs by the bottle, I often find that what I'm giving 
is actually labeled for human use.

Margo


-Original Message-
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Sent: Jun 6, 2013 7:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

Margo, you are correct. Clavamox is the vet version of Augmentin
for humans.

L.

On 06-05, Margo wrote:
 
 I keep Clavamox,  which of course is the Veterinary version of Augmentin.
 Just more convenient :)
 
 Margo
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

2013-06-06 Thread Lorrie
Actually I keep the human form, Augmentin, on hand for myself. Then all I
need is a tetanus booster if I get bitten.  If a cat bite swells up I start
myself on Augmenin. I also have Clavamox for the cats, but it is not the
correct strength for humans. I also keep Zithromax and other Abx on hand,
and I get all of them on line without an Rx.

Lorrie
 
On 06-06, Margo wrote:
 
 
 Hi Lorrie,
 
 Yes, I know, my point was that I always have Clavamox (and other Abx) on
 hand for the critters, so don't feel the need to keep the human form :).
 Since I get most of my drugs by the bottle, I often find that what I'm
 giving is actually labeled for human use.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

2013-06-06 Thread Betheny Laubenthal
I buy fish antibiotics for my feral cats (my vet knows this).  I only treat
minor infections on my own with my vet's guidance.  With infections that
require a vet visit, I start conservative treatment until the time the
appointment is (which could be up to 3 days away). I buy the 500mg pills.
 I always have amoxicillin, keflex and cipro on hand.  I make a suspension
out of the pill depending on the strength (in mgs) I need to fit into 1ml
of liquid.
Anyways, is there any otc/off labeled brands of augmentin I can get?
Thank you!
--Beth


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 Actually I keep the human form, Augmentin, on hand for myself. Then all I
 need is a tetanus booster if I get bitten.  If a cat bite swells up I start
 myself on Augmenin. I also have Clavamox for the cats, but it is not the
 correct strength for humans. I also keep Zithromax and other Abx on hand,
 and I get all of them on line without an Rx.

 Lorrie

 On 06-06, Margo wrote:
 
 
  Hi Lorrie,
 
  Yes, I know, my point was that I always have Clavamox (and other Abx) on
  hand for the critters, so don't feel the need to keep the human form
 :).
  Since I get most of my drugs by the bottle, I often find that what I'm
  giving is actually labeled for human use.
 
  Margo

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

2013-06-06 Thread Lee Evans
You would have to take a whole lot of Clavamox to make up the mgs. that you 
would need. Augmentin is a much higher mg. dose than what is given to cats.But 
then again, you could take as many pills to make up the difference and you 
would not have to deal with a physician who might report you to the Health 
Department and endanger your cat who simply had a bad fur day and bit you.


 
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too!






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Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin
 



Hi Lorrie,

        Yes, I know, my point was that I always have Clavamox (and other Abx) 
on hand for the critters, so don't feel the need to keep the human form :). 
Since I get most of my drugs by the bottle, I often find that what I'm giving 
is actually labeled for human use.

Margo


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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Sent: Jun 6, 2013 7:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clavamox aka Augmentin

Margo, you are correct. Clavamox is the vet version of Augmentin
for humans.

L.

On 06-05, Margo wrote:
 
 I keep Clavamox,  which of course is the Veterinary version of Augmentin.
 Just more convenient :)
 
 Margo
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] clavamox

2010-11-04 Thread gary
Normal dosage for that would be half that pill twice a day.  If you can get 
her to eat, just crush it in wet food.  You can also crush the pills and add 
them to a liquid and use a syringe (no needle) or a measured dropper.  Mix 
each pill with one or two ml of liquid (2 ml liquid means one ml twice a 
day, one ml liquid means .5 ml twice a day.  Must keep refrigerated and 
shake very well before each use.  You could use the petinic as the liquid.


Gary

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Hi Lisa and Natalie,

This type of clavomox is actually the 125 mg pill kind. I like the liquid
better, but I really hope to get an injection type of antibiotics next 
time.

She seemed to keep it down this evening, but she is not doing so good
overall. Still won't eat and hides under the bed. I can tell by looking at
her bowl that she does drink water, so at least that's good.

I still can't believe that all the other cats tested negative!! That was
such a relief.  I hope Oreo's test was a false positive. That would be
another miracle!

I will talk to the vet about switching antibiotics and dosage. I'm al 
little

worried because she really needs the help to get rid of this infection. I
hope it's not to late.

Lisa, I live in Alabama.

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Re: [Felvtalk] clavamox

2010-11-04 Thread Natalie
I always use the liquid because it's easier to administer.  Once in a while,
we get the pills for ferals to be mixed into food -- less taste in a pill
than a whole eyedropper of pineapple-tasting oral suspension.

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Normal dosage for that would be half that pill twice a day.  If you can get 
her to eat, just crush it in wet food.  You can also crush the pills and add

them to a liquid and use a syringe (no needle) or a measured dropper.  Mix 
each pill with one or two ml of liquid (2 ml liquid means one ml twice a 
day, one ml liquid means .5 ml twice a day.  Must keep refrigerated and 
shake very well before each use.  You could use the petinic as the liquid.

Gary

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] clavamox

 Hi Lisa and Natalie,

 This type of clavomox is actually the 125 mg pill kind. I like the liquid
 better, but I really hope to get an injection type of antibiotics next 
 time.
 She seemed to keep it down this evening, but she is not doing so good
 overall. Still won't eat and hides under the bed. I can tell by looking at
 her bowl that she does drink water, so at least that's good.

 I still can't believe that all the other cats tested negative!! That was
 such a relief.  I hope Oreo's test was a false positive. That would be
 another miracle!

 I will talk to the vet about switching antibiotics and dosage. I'm al 
 little
 worried because she really needs the help to get rid of this infection. I
 hope it's not to late.

 Lisa, I live in Alabama.

 Peggy
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] clavamox

2010-11-04 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Natalie: Thats true! I had cats spit the liquid all out. If I can get the
pill down in her throat well enough I know she took all of the necessary
dosage.
She threw up once after it, but ever since she keeps it down.

Gary: I can't get her to eat yet, so I can't mix it in her food. That would
be a lot less stress for both of us. I tried everything but she doesn't want
it. Luckely I did see her drink water this morning.
I will call the vet today and question the dosage. It seems a lot to me. But
she is very sick, maybe she needs it

Thanks for all the advice!




2010/11/4 Natalie at...@optonline.net

 I always use the liquid because it's easier to administer.  Once in a
 while,
 we get the pills for ferals to be mixed into food -- less taste in a pill
 than a whole eyedropper of pineapple-tasting oral suspension.

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  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:52 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] clavamox

 Normal dosage for that would be half that pill twice a day.  If you can get
 her to eat, just crush it in wet food.  You can also crush the pills and
 add

 them to a liquid and use a syringe (no needle) or a measured dropper.  Mix
 each pill with one or two ml of liquid (2 ml liquid means one ml twice a
 day, one ml liquid means .5 ml twice a day.  Must keep refrigerated and
 shake very well before each use.  You could use the petinic as the liquid.

 Gary

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 From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:20 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] clavamox

  Hi Lisa and Natalie,
 
  This type of clavomox is actually the 125 mg pill kind. I like the liquid
  better, but I really hope to get an injection type of antibiotics next
  time.
  She seemed to keep it down this evening, but she is not doing so good
  overall. Still won't eat and hides under the bed. I can tell by looking
 at
  her bowl that she does drink water, so at least that's good.
 
  I still can't believe that all the other cats tested negative!! That was
  such a relief.  I hope Oreo's test was a false positive. That would be
  another miracle!
 
  I will talk to the vet about switching antibiotics and dosage. I'm al
  little
  worried because she really needs the help to get rid of this infection. I
  hope it's not to late.
 
  Lisa, I live in Alabama.
 
  Peggy



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Re: [Felvtalk] clavamox

2010-11-03 Thread Natalie
The most my vet ever prescribed was 1 1/2 eyedroppers, depending on cat's
large size...normally, 1 eyedropper twice a day.  Clavamox is more likely to
make them sick than Amoxi - maybe you could switch...the taste is much
better for cats.  Both are pediatric formulascertainly not made
palatable for cats. Clavamox is more acidy tasting than Amoxi, which is more
like strawberry taste. 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] clavamox

Hi,

This is the first email I'm sending out since 1 of my cats got diagnosed
with Felv yesterday.
We have 7 other cats but THANK GOD every single one of them tested negative
(snap/elisa).
We have to have them tested again in 6 months. Do I have to wait that long
or can we have them tested sooner?
We separated Oreo from the rest of the cats and disinfected everything. Oreo
will be lab tested again next week, just to make sure. I heard
false-positives are quit common.
Oreo got put on Clavamox 125 mg to fight the secondary infections. Is the
dosage not to high for a cat? I know that cats normally get 62.5 mg. She
threw up this morning after I gave it to her.
I will call the vet tomorrow and ask the vet about the dosage and if she can
maybe subscribe injections. I hate to have to fight with her every time I
have to give her her meds. Makes me feel so guilty to do this to her. She
has no clue why she has to sit in a seperate room by herself :-(
She also gets pet-tinic and viralys. What else can I do to help her fight of
this infection. She has a cold and a fever.

If she tests positive again next week, we are forced to find a new home for
her. Maybe somebody who has no other cats, or someone who has 1 or more cats
with the same condition. I was wondering if anyone knows of anybody who
might be able to take her. We are willing to help pay for the medications
she might need.
She is such a sweet cat and I'm heart broken about this situations! My cats
are my everything!

Thanks,

Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] clavamox

2010-11-03 Thread Lisa Ogg

Hi Peggy,

We had a feline leukemia outbreak in January and lost a 1 1/2 year old cat, 
4 kittens (about 6 months old)  and the believed culprit is the sweetest 
cat you ever wanted to meet.   She is a carrier and may live a long live and 
shows absolutely no symptoms (tested positive twice).   Anyway, there was 
another 1 year old cat exposed and she tested a light positive (again not 
showing any signs).  She was given a vacinnation at the time and sent home. 
I had her tested again (although we were sure she had it) the end of 
September (as we thought she might be showing some symptoms) and she tested 
negative on both testing ways.   They gave her a booster shot yesterday and 
she is to be tested again the end of December.   They feel that if she 
doesn't show signs then, she should be out of the woods.


Just out of curiousity, what area do you live in?

Lisa in PA

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Subject: [Felvtalk] clavamox



Hi,

This is the first email I'm sending out since 1 of my cats got diagnosed
with Felv yesterday.
We have 7 other cats but THANK GOD every single one of them tested 
negative

(snap/elisa).
We have to have them tested again in 6 months. Do I have to wait that long
or can we have them tested sooner?
We separated Oreo from the rest of the cats and disinfected everything. 
Oreo

will be lab tested again next week, just to make sure. I heard
false-positives are quit common.
Oreo got put on Clavamox 125 mg to fight the secondary infections. Is the
dosage not to high for a cat? I know that cats normally get 62.5 mg. She
threw up this morning after I gave it to her.
I will call the vet tomorrow and ask the vet about the dosage and if she 
can

maybe subscribe injections. I hate to have to fight with her every time I
have to give her her meds. Makes me feel so guilty to do this to her. She
has no clue why she has to sit in a seperate room by herself :-(
She also gets pet-tinic and viralys. What else can I do to help her fight 
of

this infection. She has a cold and a fever.

If she tests positive again next week, we are forced to find a new home 
for
her. Maybe somebody who has no other cats, or someone who has 1 or more 
cats

with the same condition. I was wondering if anyone knows of anybody who
might be able to take her. We are willing to help pay for the medications
she might need.
She is such a sweet cat and I'm heart broken about this situations! My 
cats

are my everything!

Thanks,

Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] clavamox

2010-11-03 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Hi Lisa and Natalie,

This type of clavomox is actually the 125 mg pill kind. I like the liquid
better, but I really hope to get an injection type of antibiotics next time.
She seemed to keep it down this evening, but she is not doing so good
overall. Still won't eat and hides under the bed. I can tell by looking at
her bowl that she does drink water, so at least that's good.

I still can't believe that all the other cats tested negative!! That was
such a relief.  I hope Oreo's test was a false positive. That would be
another miracle!

I will talk to the vet about switching antibiotics and dosage. I'm al little
worried because she really needs the help to get rid of this infection. I
hope it's not to late.

Lisa, I live in Alabama.

Peggy


2010/11/3 Lisa Ogg emmhomescho...@peoplepc.com

 Hi Peggy,

 We had a feline leukemia outbreak in January and lost a 1 1/2 year old cat,
 4 kittens (about 6 months old)  and the believed culprit is the sweetest
 cat you ever wanted to meet.   She is a carrier and may live a long live and
 shows absolutely no symptoms (tested positive twice).   Anyway, there was
 another 1 year old cat exposed and she tested a light positive (again not
 showing any signs).  She was given a vacinnation at the time and sent home.
 I had her tested again (although we were sure she had it) the end of
 September (as we thought she might be showing some symptoms) and she tested
 negative on both testing ways.   They gave her a booster shot yesterday and
 she is to be tested again the end of December.   They feel that if she
 doesn't show signs then, she should be out of the woods.

 Just out of curiousity, what area do you live in?

 Lisa in PA

 - Original Message - From: Peggy Verdonck 
 jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:44 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] clavamox


   Hi,

 This is the first email I'm sending out since 1 of my cats got diagnosed
 with Felv yesterday.
 We have 7 other cats but THANK GOD every single one of them tested
 negative
 (snap/elisa).
 We have to have them tested again in 6 months. Do I have to wait that long
 or can we have them tested sooner?
 We separated Oreo from the rest of the cats and disinfected everything.
 Oreo
 will be lab tested again next week, just to make sure. I heard
 false-positives are quit common.
 Oreo got put on Clavamox 125 mg to fight the secondary infections. Is the
 dosage not to high for a cat? I know that cats normally get 62.5 mg. She
 threw up this morning after I gave it to her.
 I will call the vet tomorrow and ask the vet about the dosage and if she
 can
 maybe subscribe injections. I hate to have to fight with her every time I
 have to give her her meds. Makes me feel so guilty to do this to her. She
 has no clue why she has to sit in a seperate room by herself :-(
 She also gets pet-tinic and viralys. What else can I do to help her fight
 of
 this infection. She has a cold and a fever.

 If she tests positive again next week, we are forced to find a new home
 for
 her. Maybe somebody who has no other cats, or someone who has 1 or more
 cats
 with the same condition. I was wondering if anyone knows of anybody who
 might be able to take her. We are willing to help pay for the medications
 she might need.
 She is such a sweet cat and I'm heart broken about this situations! My
 cats
 are my everything!

 Thanks,

 Peggy
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