Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-25 Thread Cougar Clan
I believe it has to be from a roost and not normal bird droppings what  
are washed off...you may want to check though.  Several of mine have  
come from a 40-50 year old pine thicket which, by its nature, has been  
a roost for starlings and other birds.  Copper and Thomas came from  
that thicket when they were about 8 weeks old and it was a concern for  
respiratory issues.  FYI:  They are fine and I am blessed by their  
friendship.  And, yes, you can still tell they are ferals.

On Mar 24, 2009, at 11:44 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

bird droppings could cause that?  that scares me as i feed the wild  
birds on my deck and that is where my babies love to lie in the sun  
and snooze.  may have to change where i feed the birds and clean  
deck up with Clorox.  dorlis

 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
Yes. They told me that moisture or oxygen will deplete dry food of  
those
vitamins. Another person took their cat in when I took Coco (we  
went over to
Ames teaching school). Her cat could not walk at all and did not  
survive.
It's a rare condition and can also be caused by toxins or the  
disease passed
via bird droppings (I forget the name right now...toxoplasmosis,  
maybe).
Anyway, it was frightening and I am so grateful to have my kitty.  
They had
to take biopsies of her muscles and send them to Texas to be  
analyzed.

Laurie

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Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry  
food
should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no  
extra

air?  Wacky!

Diane R.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
mouth
and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed  
with
myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her  
issues.

The
vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
assumed
nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
depleted
the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
it's
worth
Laurie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy  
Ackerman

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Felv talk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few  
days!

I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very  
difficult

time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night   
sunday,

and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because  
he was

not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the  
blood

tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely  
that the

weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and  
he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to  
be

home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the  
treatment

Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy,  
if a

bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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2009-03-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

Just be sure to pay them before that year...otherwise the interest rate is 
astronomical!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 CC: fs...@roadrunner.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
 
 reL finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care Credit? i 
 fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses, dental 
 work, vets and even plastic surgery. the vet collects the charges until they 
 reach at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit. you have a year 
 to pay it off with no interest. you only pay interest if you take more than i 
 year to complete payment. it has helped me out with my babies because i like 
 to get a complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on each one so we have a 
 base line to start from. also helps when i have to get shots for all 5 at 
 same time. dorlis
  Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
  Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to 
  care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle 
  Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
  Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
  ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
  own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
  lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best 
  choice may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like 
  Wellness Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in 
  his life. Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
 You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
 Sue
 
  Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie. My vet believes Grrr 
  has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended 
  to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially. 
  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, 
  deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
  credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you 
  may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may 
  be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but 
  his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
  pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
  mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
  drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He 
  eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
  modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
  treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
  tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
  close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other 
  two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride 
  home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her 
  rabies vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again 
  for the support! 
  
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2009-03-25 Thread dlgegg
that is why i make sure to get it paid off long before the due date.  but it is 
still better than paying 600.00 at one crack.  i usually make payments of 
$100.00 per month and that does the trick.  dorlis
 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
Just be sure to pay them before that year...otherwise the interest rate is 
astronomical!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 CC: fs...@roadrunner.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
 
 reL finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care Credit? i 
 fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses, dental 
 work, vets and even plastic surgery. the vet collects the charges until they 
 reach at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit. you have a year 
 to pay it off with no interest. you only pay interest if you take more than i 
 year to complete payment. it has helped me out with my babies because i like 
 to get a complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on each one so we have a 
 base line to start from. also helps when i have to get shots for all 5 at 
 same time. dorlis
  Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
  Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to 
  care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle 
  Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
  Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
  ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
  own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
  lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best 
  choice may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like 
  Wellness Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in 
  his life. Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
 You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
 Sue
 
  Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie. My vet believes Grrr 
  has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended 
  to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially. 
  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, 
  deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
  credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you 
  may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may 
  be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but 
  his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
  pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
  mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
  drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He 
  eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
  modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
  treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
  tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
  close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other 
  two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride 
  home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her 
  rabies vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again 
  for the support! 
  
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2009-03-25 Thread Belinda Sauro
Yes I have used care credit for my teeth when I had to have a 
permanent tooth made.  It was a $4000.00 bill and using care Credit was 
great, I paid interest but paid it off early so it wasn't that bad, my 
insurance didn't cover the work so it would have had to come out of my 
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2009-03-25 Thread Kelley Saveika
Not all vets give you a year to pay over $300, most of ours do not as it
costs them extra.  We had a $700 bill on one cat and got 3 months to pay and
of course weren't able to.

2009/3/25 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com


 Just be sure to pay them before that year...otherwise the interest rate is
 astronomical!

 Debbie (COL)
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  Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0500
  From: dlg...@windstream.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  CC: fs...@roadrunner.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
 
  reL finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care
 Credit? i fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses,
 dental work, vets and even plastic surgery. the vet collects the charges
 until they reach at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit. you
 have a year to pay it off with no interest. you only pay interest if you
 take more than i year to complete payment. it has helped me out with my
 babies because i like to get a complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on
 each one so we have a base line to start from. also helps when i have to get
 shots for all 5 at same time. dorlis
   Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote:
   Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to
 care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle
 Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill.
 Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive
 ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their
 own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might
 lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best choice
 may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness
 Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in his life.
 Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
  You picked such a great name for a feisty cat!
  Sue
 
   Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
   Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie. My vet believes
 Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach
 financially. Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on
 our credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as
 you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That
 may be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily
 pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary
 modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride
 home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies
 vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the
 support!
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
hi,  my vet told me to keep others seperated until their last booster just to 
be sure.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until they were in their
 teens. The vet said they were likely carriers and since Squeaky was never
 sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow. Stripes was
 symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years (to age 16) and
 Squeaky lived to age 22. 
 
 Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the picture of health. 
 
 Your boy could live a long life.
 
 Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours after they are
 vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate until the booster in
 30 daysdoes anyone know?).
 
 Laurie
 
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 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 
 
 Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just joined
 upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old cat is
 positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he was tested
 before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted since then were both
 tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning to be tested 
 hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he
 will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've been scouring the
 archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is so much wonderful
 information  support here.  I look forward to being a part of this
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
Sue and Frank, where do you get Wellness Core canned food?  do you have an 
email or phone number?  never heard of this before.  
 Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
 Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to want to care 
 for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My sweet gentle Tucker 
 used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
 Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
 ways to help a sick kitty.  Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
 own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
 lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice 
 may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness 
 Core canned food.)  And making sure there is little or no stress in his life. 
  Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
Sue
 
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet 
 believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools 
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach 
 financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult 
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
 credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you 
 may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may 
 be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but 
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
 pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He 
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
 modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other 
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home 
 tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  
 I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the 
 support! 
  
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
reL  finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care Credit?  i 
fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses, dental work, 
vets and even plastic surgery.  the vet collects the charges until they reach 
at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit.  you have a year to pay 
it off with no interest.  you only pay interest if you take more than i year to 
complete payment.  it has helped me out with my babies because i like to get a 
complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on each one so we have a base line 
to start from.  also helps when i have to get shots for all 5 at same time.  
dorlis
 Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
 Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to want to care 
 for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My sweet gentle Tucker 
 used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
 Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
 ways to help a sick kitty.  Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
 own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
 lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice 
 may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness 
 Core canned food.)  And making sure there is little or no stress in his life. 
  Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
Sue
 
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet 
 believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools 
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach 
 financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult 
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
 credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you 
 may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may 
 be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but 
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
 pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He 
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
 modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other 
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home 
 tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  
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2009-03-24 Thread Laurieskatz
You can buy it online (eg Waggin'Tails). If you call around you might find a 
retailer in your area...in my city, a small private garden shop sells it and so 
does Petco.
Laurie 


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Sue and Frank, where do you get Wellness Core canned food?  do you have an 
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
thank you, got a Petco in our area.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 You can buy it online (eg Waggin'Tails). If you call around you might find a 
 retailer in your area...in my city, a small private garden shop sells it and 
 so does Petco.
 Laurie 
 
 
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 Sue and Frank, where do you get Wellness Core canned food?  do you have an 
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
Grrr sounds so much like my Snuggles.  is beautiful to look at, loves to be 
petted (for a while at least, not too much) but don't try to brush me or give 
me pills.  i will slash you to bits, bite and swat you with my tail.  don't 
know if it has anything to do with it, he was a Maine Coon.  he looked like it 
so took to a breeder and she confirmed it.  mostly, as long as things went his 
way, he was happy.  sometimes a pain to deal with, but i would not have missed 
my days with him for anything.  he is the one who took care of my father.  the 
day father became ill, Snuggles went into his room and would not leave.  if he 
called me in the middle of the night, Snug would come and get me, then jump on 
father's bed.  he stayed with him for a year and the day father passed, he left 
his room and never went back there.  he passed away 1 week after father.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've written 
 so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is going on 
 with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I took him in 
 monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time doing normal 
 cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and it was getting 
 progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my vet on Sunday 
 about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not displaying any 
 very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress or pain, we 
 decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday morning.  He 
 had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness was a symptom 
 of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests that led to 
 the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the weakness  
 instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by lymphosarcoma, and I 
 believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms were simply a 
 progression from what had been going on all weekend, exacerbated by the 
 stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't travel well either.  
 Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome  growl.  The cortisol 
 shot was administered as an effort at pain management, to see if it helped 
 him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's looking OK- a bit better 
 than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.   We have a very long 
 term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him- obviously, mistakes can 
 be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment Grrr has been given and the 
 plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as has been suggested, throwing 
 out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit awkward physically, and that 
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
if exposing dry to the air caused a loss of vitamin D, what about adding fish 
oil to the food to counter the loss of D and then add a vitamin supplement for 
the selenium.  dorlis
 Rosenfeldt wrote: 
 Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
 should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
 air?  Wacky!
 
 Diane R. 
 
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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:38 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
 mouth
 and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
 myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
 The
 vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
 assumed
 nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
 container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
 depleted
 the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
 it's
 worth
 Laurie
 
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
 To: Felv talk
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
 written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
 was/is
 going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
 I
 took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
 time
 doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
 and
 it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
 with my
 vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
 not
 displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
 distress
 or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
 Monday
 morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
 weakness
 was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
 tests
 that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
 weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
 lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
 symptoms
 were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
 exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
 doesn't
 travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
 handsome 
 growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
 management,
 to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
 looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
 home.
 We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
 him-
 obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
 Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
 am, as
 has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
 bit
 awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
bird droppings could cause that?  that scares me as i feed the wild birds on my 
deck and that is where my babies love to lie in the sun and snooze.  may have 
to change where i feed the birds and clean deck up with Clorox.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 Yes. They told me that moisture or oxygen will deplete dry food of those
 vitamins. Another person took their cat in when I took Coco (we went over to
 Ames teaching school). Her cat could not walk at all and did not survive.
 It's a rare condition and can also be caused by toxins or the disease passed
 via bird droppings (I forget the name right now...toxoplasmosis, maybe).
 Anyway, it was frightening and I am so grateful to have my kitty. They had
 to take biopsies of her muscles and send them to Texas to be analyzed.
 Laurie
 
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, Diane
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:49 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
 should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
 air?  Wacky!
 
 Diane R. 
 
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:38 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
 mouth
 and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
 myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
 The
 vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
 assumed
 nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
 container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
 depleted
 the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
 it's
 worth
 Laurie
 
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
 To: Felv talk
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
 written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
 was/is
 going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
 I
 took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
 time
 doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
 and
 it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
 with my
 vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
 not
 displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
 distress
 or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
 Monday
 morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
 weakness
 was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
 tests
 that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
 weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
 lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
 symptoms
 were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
 exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
 doesn't
 travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
 handsome 
 growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
 management,
 to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
 looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
 home.
 We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
 him-
 obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
 Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
 am, as
 has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
 bit
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt

As sort of a parenthetical to this discussion, which I confess I've only
read a little of, recently my housemate decided to try putting our Luc's
thyroid pills (which we've been shoving down his throat for years) into a
pinch of catnip in the palm of her hand.  I never thought this would work,
but he's been doing this for about a month now.  Even if he snarfs up all
the nip, he'll still take one extra snarf to get the pill in.  Goofy boy, I
love him dearly.

Diane R. 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Amy Ackerman
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Grrr sounds so much like my Snuggles.  is beautiful to look at, loves to be
petted (for a while at least, not too much) but don't try to brush me or
give me pills.  i will slash you to bits, bite and swat you with my tail.
don't know if it has anything to do with it, he was a Maine Coon.  he looked
like it so took to a breeder and she confirmed it.  mostly, as long as
things went his way, he was happy.  sometimes a pain to deal with, but i
would not have missed my days with him for anything.  he is the one who took
care of my father.  the day father became ill, Snuggles went into his room
and would not leave.  if he called me in the middle of the night, Snug would
come and get me, then jump on father's bed.  he stayed with him for a year
and the day father passed, he left his room and never went back there.  he
passed away 1 week after father.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread Chris
Catnip--not bad!  Haven't tried that one.  Whenever I think I've found
something that works though (and feel very proud of myself for finding the
perfect pill pusher-downer), they always manage to show me who is the real
boss by suddenly deciding that they know I'm putting a pill in and stop
taking whatever it was that worked.  I've used American cheese (makes a nice
little ball), liverwurst (ditto), ham (a little harder to roll up), pill
pockets (works for a while), wet food (in a ball), two treats squished
together like a sandwich with a pill in the middle, and on and on.  Of
course, groveling and begging and pleading sometimes works though I think
they finally take the pill just to shut me up.  And then of course, there
are all those pills I've found over the years, just lying around without a
mark on them.  I KNOW they're not the pills I was so proud of myself
about--I KNOW they sneak to the pill vial at night to take out some pills to
scatter around just to make me crazy! LOL

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


As sort of a parenthetical to this discussion, which I confess I've only
read a little of, recently my housemate decided to try putting our Luc's
thyroid pills (which we've been shoving down his throat for years) into a
pinch of catnip in the palm of her hand.  I never thought this would work,
but he's been doing this for about a month now.  Even if he snarfs up all
the nip, he'll still take one extra snarf to get the pill in.  Goofy boy, I
love him dearly.

Diane R. 

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dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Amy Ackerman
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Grrr sounds so much like my Snuggles.  is beautiful to look at, loves to be
petted (for a while at least, not too much) but don't try to brush me or
give me pills.  i will slash you to bits, bite and swat you with my tail.
don't know if it has anything to do with it, he was a Maine Coon.  he looked
like it so took to a breeder and she confirmed it.  mostly, as long as
things went his way, he was happy.  sometimes a pain to deal with, but i
would not have missed my days with him for anything.  he is the one who took
care of my father.  the day father became ill, Snuggles went into his room
and would not leave.  if he called me in the middle of the night, Snug would
come and get me, then jump on father's bed.  he stayed with him for a year
and the day father passed, he left his room and never went back there.  he
passed away 1 week after father.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy

Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-04 Thread Amy Ackerman

Hello again all-Just an update-  I took my other two in yesterday morning to be 
tested  vaccinated and picked Grrr up at the same time.  He seemed to be doing 
OK, and my vet was optimistic that the cortisol would help him be comfortable 
for a while.  I brought all three home, got the other two set up in their 30 
day kitty condo, and let Grrr out of his carrier.  He almost immediately began 
displaying some pretty disturbing neurological issues- his face was so tight  
contorted that for a moment I wondered if they had given me the wrong cat.  I 
dragged him back out to the vet  they have been observing him for the last 24 
h.  Further tests offer no answers as to the origin of the rapid neurological 
changes.  He hasn't improved dramatically, but he seems comfortable  as cheery 
as he gets today, so I'm going to get him.  As long as he's comfortable and 
happy, we're certainly willing to modify his lifestyle to make things a little 
easier on him.  We're just thrilled that he is coming home!Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-04 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Hi Amy, I'm so sorry to hear about Grrr.  I was just wondering about  
the cortisol shot -  what's the rationale behind that?


Thanks and best of luck,

Gloria


On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Amy Ackerman wrote:



Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet  
believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the  
diagnostic tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor  
are simply out of reach financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I  
know; this was a very difficult day, deciding courses of treatment  
for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines.  He's  
having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you may be  
able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may  
be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well,  
but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for,  
say, daily pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it  
improves his mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic  
(I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune suppressive  
effects of the cortisol.  He eats like a horse, so we're going to  
try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well.  Any one  
with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally  
invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit  
gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too close),  
please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other  
two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car  
ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to  
get her rabies vax.  I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all,  
and thanks again for the support!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
18 months ago I brought Winston (FeLV-) home from the vet after a dental
cleaning. He could not use his back legs correctly. He acted like he was in
pain when he would try to use his legs. I took him to a specialist and she
suspected he had been injured (back twisted) while under anesthesia.
Fortunately the nerves recovered and he was fine. Was Grrr anesthetized for
anything while at the vet? This does not sound right to me. Wonder about a
second opinion.
Laurie

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Hello again all-Just an update-  I took my other two in yesterday morning to
be tested  vaccinated and picked Grrr up at the same time.  He seemed to be
doing OK, and my vet was optimistic that the cortisol would help him be
comfortable for a while.  I brought all three home, got the other two set up
in their 30 day kitty condo, and let Grrr out of his carrier.  He almost
immediately began displaying some pretty disturbing neurological issues- his
face was so tight  contorted that for a moment I wondered if they had given
me the wrong cat.  I dragged him back out to the vet  they have been
observing him for the last 24 h.  Further tests offer no answers as to the
origin of the rapid neurological changes.  He hasn't improved dramatically,
but he seems comfortable  as cheery as he gets today, so I'm going to get
him.  As long as he's comfortable and happy, we're certainly willing to
modify his lifestyle to make things a little easier on him.  We're just
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
I totally missed the injection info. Have you researched cortisol? Wonder if
they hit a nerve when they vaccinated him. Did they give the injection in
his scruff? I strongly suspect something happened at the vet's officeI
do not mean to alarm you as he may very well recover and be fine but I would
wonder about that vet. 
L

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Hello again all-Just an update-  I took my other two in yesterday morning to
be tested  vaccinated and picked Grrr up at the same time.  He seemed to be
doing OK, and my vet was optimistic that the cortisol would help him be
comfortable for a while.  I brought all three home, got the other two set up
in their 30 day kitty condo, and let Grrr out of his carrier.  He almost
immediately began displaying some pretty disturbing neurological issues- his
face was so tight  contorted that for a moment I wondered if they had given
me the wrong cat.  I dragged him back out to the vet  they have been
observing him for the last 24 h.  Further tests offer no answers as to the
origin of the rapid neurological changes.  He hasn't improved dramatically,
but he seems comfortable  as cheery as he gets today, so I'm going to get
him.  As long as he's comfortable and happy, we're certainly willing to
modify his lifestyle to make things a little easier on him.  We're just
thrilled that he is coming home!Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-04 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I've never heard of giving cortisol shots, just cortisone.  I've read  
that too much cortisol in the system is not a good thing, but don't  
know much about it, just wondering.  Below is something I found when I  
did a Yahoo search for cortisol shot feline (at cats.lovetoknow.com):


Gloria

My four-year-old female cat Dottie has a hormonal allergy. That's all  
the vet told me except that she would need a monthly shot for the rest  
of her life. She is itchy all over and gets many scabs and has hair  
loss. It looks a lot like scabies.
Are there any natural remedies to help her? She's quite stressed most  
of the time, very jumpy. I cannot afford the monthly vet trip for a  
shot. The poor thing is miserable but we love each other and I want to  
keep her. Please help if you can.

Thanks,
Jill
Expert Reply
Hi Jill,
So sorry to hear about Dottie's hair loss. Since your vet didn't give  
you a lot of information, let me give it a try.
Hormones are regulated by a chemical commonly referred to as Cortisol.  
As cats age, their bodies naturally begin to produce less hormones.  
When levels are low enough, the body tries to boost production of the  
hormones, but then production of Cortisol is lowered as the body  
redirects its energy. This is when the trouble begins.
The shots your vet prescribed are necessary to help your cat's  
hormonal system remain in balance and able to fight off immune  
reactions that produce the typical allergy symptoms.

There are a few things you can do to support the Corticosteroid therapy.
• Fatty acid supplementation may help your cat's skin irritation.
	• Try feeding your cat a diet that is specifically formulated for  
pets with allergies.
	• Try to avoid exposing your cat to any of its known allergens. For  
this, you'd have to ask your vet what your cat tested allergic to.
	• Make every effort to lessen the stress in her environment. Stress  
further inhibits her body's ability to deal with the allergens.
I'm sorry I couldn't give you better news. There doesn't seem to be a  
way to cure severe allergies. All we can do is try to manage them to  
make our cats as comfortable as possible.

Thanks for your question.
Kelly
===




On Mar 4, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Laurieskatz wrote:

I totally missed the injection info. Have you researched cortisol?  
Wonder if
they hit a nerve when they vaccinated him. Did they give the  
injection in
his scruff? I strongly suspect something happened at the vet's  
officeI
do not mean to alarm you as he may very well recover and be fine but  
I would

wonder about that vet.
L

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.


Hello again all-Just an update-  I took my other two in yesterday  
morning to
be tested  vaccinated and picked Grrr up at the same time.  He  
seemed to be
doing OK, and my vet was optimistic that the cortisol would help him  
be
comfortable for a while.  I brought all three home, got the other  
two set up
in their 30 day kitty condo, and let Grrr out of his carrier.  He  
almost
immediately began displaying some pretty disturbing neurological  
issues- his
face was so tight  contorted that for a moment I wondered if they  
had given

me the wrong cat.  I dragged him back out to the vet  they have been
observing him for the last 24 h.  Further tests offer no answers as  
to the
origin of the rapid neurological changes.  He hasn't improved  
dramatically,
but he seems comfortable  as cheery as he gets today, so I'm going  
to get
him.  As long as he's comfortable and happy, we're certainly willing  
to
modify his lifestyle to make things a little easier on him.  We're  
just

thrilled that he is coming home!Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Amy Ackerman

I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've written 
so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is going on 
with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I took him in 
monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time doing normal 
cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and it was getting 
progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my vet on Sunday 
about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not displaying any 
very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress or pain, we decided 
to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday morning.  He had been 
losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness was a symptom of whatever 
was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests that led to the leukemia 
diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the weakness  instability are a 
result of a spinal tumor caused by lymphosarcoma, and I believe that 
yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms were simply a progression from what 
had been going on all weekend, exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  
long car rides- he doesn't travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily 
except look handsome  growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort 
at pain management, to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him 
home and he's looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy 
to be home.   We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do 
trust him- obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the 
treatment Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I 
am, as has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a 
bit awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her mouth
and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues. The
vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they assumed
nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which depleted
the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what it's
worth
Laurie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Felv talk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
air?  Wacky!

Diane R. 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
mouth
and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
The
vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
assumed
nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
depleted
the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
it's
worth
Laurie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Felv talk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
Yes. They told me that moisture or oxygen will deplete dry food of those
vitamins. Another person took their cat in when I took Coco (we went over to
Ames teaching school). Her cat could not walk at all and did not survive.
It's a rare condition and can also be caused by toxins or the disease passed
via bird droppings (I forget the name right now...toxoplasmosis, maybe).
Anyway, it was frightening and I am so grateful to have my kitty. They had
to take biopsies of her muscles and send them to Texas to be analyzed.
Laurie

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
air?  Wacky!

Diane R. 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
mouth
and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
The
vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
assumed
nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
depleted
the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
it's
worth
Laurie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Felv talk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Amy Ackerman

My last post today, I promise!  Thanks for that info, Laurie.  I'm researching 
that now- would it seem likely that one cat would contract myonecrosis  not 
others who were eating the same food?  That's a new one on me as well, never 
heard of it.  All three get canned wellness 2-3x a week, dry wellness the other 
days, although we've been planning to switch brands  couldn't hurt to 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
I had 6 cats and only Coco got myonecrosis. At least 2 others also ate the
dry Wellness


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To: Felv talk
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My last post today, I promise!  Thanks for that info, Laurie.  I'm
researching that now- would it seem likely that one cat would contract
myonecrosis  not others who were eating the same food?  That's a new one on
me as well, never heard of it.  All three get canned wellness 2-3x a week,
dry wellness the other days, although we've been planning to switch
brands  couldn't hurt to switch everyone to wet I suppose!
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2009-03-03 Thread Sue Frank Koren
Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to want to care 
for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My sweet gentle Tucker used 
to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. Sometimes I 
think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive ways to help a 
sick kitty.  Some would much rather be gently let go in their own time with 
dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might lengthen their 
lives but would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice may be feeding 
him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness Core canned food.)  
And making sure there is little or no stress in his life.  Best wishes for as 
much quality time as possible with Grrr.
You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
Sue
 
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet 
 believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools 
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach 
 financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult 
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
 credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you 
 may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may 
 be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but 
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
 pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He 
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
 modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other 
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home 
 tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  
 I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the 
 support! 
  
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2009-03-03 Thread Cougar Clan
Make sure and give the others very good food too.  Chopping carrots  
and spinach in canned/frozen food is not hard and is not expensive  
either.  Dixie loved them.

On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:

Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to  
want to care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My  
sweet gentle Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried  
to give him a pill. Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the  
least threatening or invasive ways to help a sick kitty.  Some would  
much rather be gently let go in their own time with dignity then to  
have procedures forced upon them that might lengthen their lives but  
would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice may be feeding  
him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness Core  
canned food.)  And making sure there is little or no stress in his  
life.  Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.

You picked such a great name for a feisty cat!
Sue

 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote:


Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My  
vet believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the  
diagnostic tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor  
are simply out of reach financially.  Times are lean for everyone,  
I know; this was a very difficult day, deciding courses of  
treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines.   
He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you may  
be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That  
may be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as  
well, but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good  
candidate for, say, daily pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot  
to see if it improves his mobility/comfort  an injectable, long  
term antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune  
suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He eats like a horse, so  
we're going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as  
well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments  
(minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a  
tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it  
land too close), please share as I continue to dredge through the  
archives.  My other two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight-  
should be a fun car ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the  
mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  I'll check back in  
tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the support!


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2009-03-03 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Amy --

I'm sorry your baby isn't doing well, and I'm even sorrier that
diagnosis and treatment need to be ruled by, as you say, your credit
line.  We've all been at this point, I think.  Part of the nastiness of
this disease is that it's expensive all around, from the frequent vet
visits to the food and supplements, to the emotional expense.  Unlike
many of the kitties on this list, my FeLV kitty, Patches, turned up on
our doorstep one night and was gone within two months.  I don't know if
I could have afforded his care in the long run, and it absolutely bites
to have to think in those terms about a little soul in your care.

I have a cat that sounds a lot like Grrr -- thankfully he's been healthy
all his life, except, y'know, for the psychosis. ;-)  Best of luck with
whatever your vet comes up with to treat him.

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.


 Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet
believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic
tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of
reach financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very
difficult day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved
cat based on our credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.
Grrr is also, as you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly
good patient.  That may be the understatement of the month.  He is
slightly anemic as well, but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly
good candidate for, say, daily pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot
to see if it improves his mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term
antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune
suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He eats like a horse, so we're
going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well.  Any
one with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally
invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit gently
from across the room, careful not to let it land too close), please
share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other two are
keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home
tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies
vax.  I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for
the support! 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-03 Thread Sharyl
Laurie, I don't know for sure about the isolation requirements.  As a 
precaution, I kept my positives separate from my negatives until after the 
negative had received the 30 day booster.  That was a yr ago and all are still 
doing fine.

Amy, to build on what others have already written, enjoy each day with your big 
boy.  Over the last yr I have rescued 6 positive kittens from a dumpster 
colony.  I lost one in Jan. but the other 5 are doing great and are a joy to be 
with.  Having had CRF and heart kitties I learned to treasure each day I have 
with my beloved companions. 

We do what we can with the available resources to help these sweet companions 
have a full and meaningful life.  Love is first on the list of what these 
babies need.  

My oldest positives are 1 1/2 yrs old.  The babies are 8 months old.
Love and enjoy him.
Sharyl

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:18 PM
 Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until
 they were in their
 teens. The vet said they were likely carriers
 and since Squeaky was never
 sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow.
 Stripes was
 symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years
 (to age 16) and
 Squeaky lived to age 22. 
 
 Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the
 picture of health. 
 
 Your boy could live a long life.
 
 Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours
 after they are
 vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate
 until the booster in
 30 daysdoes anyone know?).
 
 Laurie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 Amy Ackerman
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 
 
 Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members-
 i've just joined
 upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year
 old cat is
 positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk
 as he was tested
 before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted
 since then were both
 tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning
 to be tested 
 hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy
 home.  Hopefully he
 will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've
 been scouring the
 archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is
 so much wonderful
 information  support here.  I look forward to being a
 part of this
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2009-03-03 Thread Laurieskatz
Thanks Sharyl. I think that is what I would do, too (30 days).
LCS

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

Laurie, I don't know for sure about the isolation requirements.  As a
precaution, I kept my positives separate from my negatives until after the
negative had received the 30 day booster.  That was a yr ago and all are
still doing fine.

Amy, to build on what others have already written, enjoy each day with your
big boy.  Over the last yr I have rescued 6 positive kittens from a dumpster
colony.  I lost one in Jan. but the other 5 are doing great and are a joy to
be with.  Having had CRF and heart kitties I learned to treasure each day I
have with my beloved companions. 

We do what we can with the available resources to help these sweet
companions have a full and meaningful life.  Love is first on the list of
what these babies need.  

My oldest positives are 1 1/2 yrs old.  The babies are 8 months old.
Love and enjoy him.
Sharyl

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:18 PM
 Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until
 they were in their
 teens. The vet said they were likely carriers
 and since Squeaky was never
 sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow.
 Stripes was
 symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years
 (to age 16) and
 Squeaky lived to age 22. 
 
 Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the
 picture of health. 
 
 Your boy could live a long life.
 
 Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours
 after they are
 vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate
 until the booster in
 30 daysdoes anyone know?).
 
 Laurie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 Amy Ackerman
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 
 
 Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members-
 i've just joined
 upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year
 old cat is
 positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk
 as he was tested
 before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted
 since then were both
 tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning
 to be tested 
 hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy
 home.  Hopefully he
 will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've
 been scouring the
 archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is
 so much wonderful
 information  support here.  I look forward to being a
 part of this
 community.  Amy



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread gary
Hi Amy,

Welcome to the list.

You say you hope you will have at least a few more months with him.  Besides
being FeLV positive, what is wrong with him?

Gary

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.


Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just joined
upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old cat is
positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he was tested
before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted since then were both
tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning to be tested 
hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he
will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've been scouring the
archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is so much wonderful
information  support here.  I look forward to being a part of this
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread Laurieskatz
Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until they were in their
teens. The vet said they were likely carriers and since Squeaky was never
sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow. Stripes was
symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years (to age 16) and
Squeaky lived to age 22. 

Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the picture of health. 

Your boy could live a long life.

Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours after they are
vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate until the booster in
30 daysdoes anyone know?).

Laurie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.


Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just joined
upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old cat is
positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he was tested
before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted since then were both
tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning to be tested 
hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he
will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've been scouring the
archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is so much wonderful
information  support here.  I look forward to being a part of this
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread Amy Ackerman

 Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet believes 
Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended 
to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially.  
Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, deciding 
courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines.  
He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you may be able to 
gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may be the 
understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but his... 
attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily pills, etc. 
 He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his mobility/comfort  an 
injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the 
immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He eats like a horse, so we're 
going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well.  Any one with 
suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's 
standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful 
not to let it land too close), please share as I continue to dredge through the 
archives.  My other two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a 
fun car ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get 
her rabies vax.  I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again 
for the support! 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread Cougar Clan
Oh my.don't look at a few more months my friend.  Dixie lived  
three wonderful years.  She was full grown and with a totally unknown  
and not good history.  She had been a cared for cat at least to the  
point that she had been spayed, liked to be petted etc.  Some how she  
found herself homeless and wound up with the ferals my Mom puts food  
out for.  She was such a darling I decided to make her a farm cat and  
took her to my wonderful vets to be spayed (I didn't know she had  
been).  She tested positive, won my heart and has kept it firmly in  
her paws even though she left this world June 12, 2008.  She had  
holistic and regular vet care, the best food I could give her  
including Primal Raw which many advise against but on which she  
thrived, lots of chopped veggies high in vitamin C and iron,  
colostrum, and other supplements.  She was in wonderful health until  
just before she left this world.  The suddenness of the end  
was well, it was totally unexpected.  For a long time I  
thought she had beaten it.  The fine people on this list helped so much.


Please do not put limits on the time he will be with you.  If you do,  
you will live, if you can call it that, in dread, pain and grief.  He  
would not have that for you any more than Dixie would have wanted it  
for me.  We all leave this world.  We all leave from something.  None  
of us are guaranteed a second.  Do not exit like that.  You will  
deprive yourself of the wonderful love he gives you and the lessons he  
has to teach and you will deprive him of your unconditional love  
because, every time you look at him it will be with a dread you will  
both know.  The stress will make you both miserable and will harm your  
other cats' hearts too.  Do everything you can for all your cats and  
be very gentle with yourself.  None of this is your fault.  As much as  
you and I and all who love try to protect those we are devoted to, we  
can not protect them from everything.  We just can't. By the way,  
Dixie totally enjoyed her life but there are many on this list and  
many I know of who have lived much, much longer.  Throw away the  
calendar.  It has no place in the heart.



On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Amy Ackerman wrote:



Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just  
joined upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old  
cat is positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he  
was tested before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted  
since then were both tested... sigh.  We take the other two in  
tomorrow morning to be tested  hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll  
bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he will be with us for at least a  
few more months.  I've been scouring the archives and can't express  
enough gratitude- there is so much wonderful information  support  
here.  I look forward to being a part of this community.  Amy

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2009-03-02 Thread Chris
Amy
My Romeo was a stray who I fed a couple of years before bringing him inside.
I could do anything at all to him except pick him up or restrain him or give
him a pill.  He became ill very suddenly--had large mass in his chest cavity
and fluids in his lungs.  Treating him would have been more for me than for
him--it likely wouldn't have worked long term and though it might have given
him a bit more time, he would have been totally traumatized by it all.  I
made the choice to let him go and it was very tough.  But I knew from his
eyes that he wanted it to end before it got worse than it already had
gotten.  Best advice is from CougarClan--just throw away the calendar and
enjoy every day with what sounds like a spunky, wonderful kitty!

Christiane Biagi


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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.


 Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet
believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools
recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach
financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult
day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on
our credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also,
as you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.
That may be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well,
but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say,
daily pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his
mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the
drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He
eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary
modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive
treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a
tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too
close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other
two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride
home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies
vax.  I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the
support! 
 
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