Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-17 Thread Claudia Veiga
I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly female 
cats 
who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made genralizations 
about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends on the 
cat, 
jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people.

Claudia

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:29:37 -0500
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
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That is EXACTLY what I have found - almost all of our male cats are
nurturing, loving - just like mothers or uncles to kittens and all
cats...females have not been!  But then, they probably had their motherhood
experience, and decided no more!  My problem right now is that I have
adoption age kittens just in time for Christmas, and I do not, as a policy,
want kittens to be going to a new home at this time - the worst ever!  Meowy
Christmas to all! Natalie

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Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always
been the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom
cats who get fixed  come inside  play mom to my kitten fosters  cuddle
with my adult males. My female cats swat  hiss at the kittens or new
adults.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org  ?

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From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM

thanks for sharing, Bonnie!? I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know
there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy
ones, who I loved dearly.? We call our only female - the oldest at 15 -
queen, too. :)

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.? She was indoors only.? There
was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window.? About a
year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my
degree.? I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy
would be alone much of the time.? In a move that is the *only* time I've
sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the
local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.? I brought him home
and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.? Oops.? I don't think she
ever quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are 
solitary.? That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally
speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of
their need.? She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's
queen and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's
the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well.
Good luck!


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-17 Thread Sharyl
Good point Claudia.  I currently have 6 house kitties ranging in age from 18 yo 
to 14 wk old.  Zippity-doo-dah, the baby, is the only male.  I've found age 
plays more of a role in how well cats get along.  My 18 yo girl just ignores 
the rest and will put them in their place if they bug her.  She is a tortie and 
never been a lap kitty.  In my home anyway, they seem to group themselves by 
age.  

My next challenge is the 3 black and one black/white rescues I'm fostering in 
the bathroom.  They are approx. 16 weeks old and anxious to escape the 
bathroom.  Having 5 babies romping through the cottage could be quite a 
challenge for all of us.

Sharyl

--- On Fri, 12/17/10, Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 4:19 PM
 I think it depends on the cat, I have
 knowns very sweet and friendly female cats 
 who like being with other cats, I know some others on here
 made genralizations 
 about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it
 really depends on the cat, 
 jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people.
 
 Claudia
 
 


  

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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-17 Thread Natalie
Yes, I agree - but I believe that generally, males are more outgoing, and
much easier to tame than feral females. I have plenty of very cuddly
felines, even my tortie who acts like a dog (only to me)...she follows me
like a dog.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Claudia Veiga
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 4:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly female
cats 
who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made
genralizations 
about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends on the
cat, 
jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people.

Claudia

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:29:37 -0500
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
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That is EXACTLY what I have found - almost all of our male cats are
nurturing, loving - just like mothers or uncles to kittens and all
cats...females have not been!  But then, they probably had their motherhood
experience, and decided no more!  My problem right now is that I have
adoption age kittens just in time for Christmas, and I do not, as a policy,
want kittens to be going to a new home at this time - the worst ever!  Meowy
Christmas to all! Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always
been the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom
cats who get fixed  come inside  play mom to my kitten fosters  cuddle
with my adult males. My female cats swat  hiss at the kittens or new
adults.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org  ?

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM

thanks for sharing, Bonnie!? I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know
there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy
ones, who I loved dearly.? We call our only female - the oldest at 15 -
queen, too. :)

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.? She was indoors only.? There
was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window.? About a
year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my
degree.? I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy
would be alone much of the time.? In a move that is the *only* time I've
sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the
local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.? I brought him home
and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.? Oops.? I don't think she
ever quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are 
solitary.? That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally
speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of
their need.? She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's
queen and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's
the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well.
Good luck!


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-17 Thread Melinda Kerr
I agree completely. My 18mo old female with cancer who receives chemo has 
accepted the kitten since day one. When she doesn't feel like playing she 
patiently lets him know. When he doesn't back of she makes it quite clear she 
doesn't want to play!  I've felt like she acts like a momma kitty. 

I've also been following the messages about black kitties.  Our little black 
boy is the sweetest kitty ever. He is so much fun because he is fun and full of 
life. I think someone told me they here in japan black cats bring good luck.  I 
personally turned 13 on Friday the13th and had a black cat!  I don't believe in 
superstitions!

Melinda, Fuji, and VooDoo

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly female 
 cats 
 who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made 
 genralizations 
 about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends on the 
 cat, 
 jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people.
 
 Claudia
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:29:37 -0500
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
 Message-ID: 08c901cb9d57$952de680$bf89b3...@net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 That is EXACTLY what I have found - almost all of our male cats are
 nurturing, loving - just like mothers or uncles to kittens and all
 cats...females have not been!  But then, they probably had their motherhood
 experience, and decided no more!  My problem right now is that I have
 adoption age kittens just in time for Christmas, and I do not, as a policy,
 want kittens to be going to a new home at this time - the worst ever!  Meowy
 Christmas to all! Natalie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:06 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
 
 My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always
 been the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom
 cats who get fixed  come inside  play mom to my kitten fosters  cuddle
 with my adult males. My female cats swat  hiss at the kittens or new
 adults.
 
 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org  ?
 
 --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM
 
 thanks for sharing, Bonnie!? I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know
 there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy
 ones, who I loved dearly.? We call our only female - the oldest at 15 -
 queen, too. :)
 
 --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM
 
 
 Shannon
 I have to tell you this story...
 I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.? She was indoors only.? There
 was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window.? About a
 year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my
 degree.? I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy
 would be alone much of the time.? In a move that is the *only* time I've
 sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the
 local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.? I brought him home
 and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!
 Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.? Oops.? I don't think she
 ever quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are 
 solitary.? That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally
 speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
 ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of
 their need.? She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's
 queen and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's
 the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well.
 Good luck!
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-17 Thread Mike Finch
I'm with you Claudia!!  The reality is that there are no rules... only imagined 
tendencies. :)

I recently saw a very sweet movie called The Answer Man.  I highly recommend 
it.  In it, the lead female character said three things that she lives by that 
I 
totally love.

1)  Never take advice from someone you wouldn't switch places with.
2)  Try not to do anything you can't take back.
3)  Something is what it is... and it's not something else.

#3 is how I approach cat relationships, or for that matter humans too.  It's 
personalities and chemistry.  Nothing more.  And thank God for that.  It makes 
life joyfully interesting. :)

Mike




From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 6:19:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly female 
cats 

who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made genralizations 
about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends on the 
cat, 

jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people.

Claudia
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-17 Thread MaiMaiPG
They are all so different and sometimes our expectations have  
something to do with their actions/reactions.  I have been blessed by  
friends that get along, even if it takes a while for them to work  
things out.  Ebony and Mitu worked it out and they worked it out with  
Mai Mai and Allie (two dogs who came alone separately  and who worked  
things out themselves).  Kitty worked ti out with Dixie.  Ebony and Mi  
Tu worked it out with Sandy (another dog).  All of us slept in the  
same bed and they lived in peace.  Now Copper and Thomas (male cats)  
are working it out with Bob (a dog).  Expectations have a lot to do  
with adjustments in MHO.  I have brought dogs in to care for them  
while their Persons was vacationing etc...it worked out.   
Everything and everyone is different and I really believe that the  
beliefs of the people involved have a lot to do with adjustments.  If  
we think it won't work..well, it won't.

On Dec 17, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Mike Finch wrote:

I'm with you Claudia!!  The reality is that there are no rules...  
only imagined

tendencies. :)

I recently saw a very sweet movie called The Answer Man.  I highly  
recommend
it.  In it, the lead female character said three things that she  
lives by that I

totally love.

1)  Never take advice from someone you wouldn't switch places with.
2)  Try not to do anything you can't take back.
3)  Something is what it is... and it's not something else.

#3 is how I approach cat relationships, or for that matter humans  
too.  It's
personalities and chemistry.  Nothing more.  And thank God for  
that.  It makes

life joyfully interesting. :)

Mike




From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 6:19:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly  
female cats


who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made  
genralizations
about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends  
on the cat,


jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people.

Claudia
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-16 Thread Beth
My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always been 
the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom cats who 
get fixed  come inside  play mom to my kitten fosters  cuddle with my adult 
males. My female cats swat  hiss at the kittens or new adults.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM

thanks for sharing, Bonnie!  I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know there 
are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy ones, who I 
loved dearly.  We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - queen, too. :)

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:


From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors only.  There 
was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window.  About a year 
after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree.  I 
was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone 
much of the time.  In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat 
(they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and 
adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.  I brought him home and said, Look Stormy 
-- I got you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't think she ever 
quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are 
solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally 
speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of 
their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's queen 
and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder 
puss) and she's adjusted very well.
Good luck!


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-16 Thread Natalie
That is EXACTLY what I have found - almost all of our male cats are
nurturing, loving - just like mothers or uncles to kittens and all
cats...females have not been!  But then, they probably had their motherhood
experience, and decided no more!  My problem right now is that I have
adoption age kittens just in time for Christmas, and I do not, as a policy,
want kittens to be going to a new home at this time - the worst ever!  Meowy
Christmas to all! Natalie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always
been the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom
cats who get fixed  come inside  play mom to my kitten fosters  cuddle
with my adult males. My female cats swat  hiss at the kittens or new
adults.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM

thanks for sharing, Bonnie!  I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know
there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy
ones, who I loved dearly.  We call our only female - the oldest at 15 -
queen, too. :)

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:


From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors only.  There
was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window.  About a
year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my
degree.  I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy
would be alone much of the time.  In a move that is the *only* time I've
sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the
local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.  I brought him home
and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't think she
ever quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are 
solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally
speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of
their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's
queen and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's
the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well.
Good luck!


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-16 Thread Natalie
The most important thing is the way cats are introduced, which, as a
rescuer, I am doing all the time.  I either place a large cage where the
cats are, and they get to know one another safely.  It's also a good idea to
use Feliway at the same time.  Another trick we have is to have a screen
door installed between a bathroom and another room where cats come and go.
They get to know each other through the screen safely, and once, opened,
all's well.  Yes, there are some cats that would love to be the only cat,
but they're far and in-between.  Cats are very social creatures; people
always think of them as being solitary, lone, antisocialThe only time I
would advise anyone not to adopt another cat or kitten, is if the cat is
very old and perhaps ill.  Very often, the big difference could be the type
of cat (age, personality) that is adopted.  I always tell our adopters to
give it some time, you can't expect cats to get along in a day or two.
Although, the two FeLV cats became great friends overnight, with just a
screen door between them.

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

It's funny you mention asking him, because I have, and he's been silent
about the whole thing.  Not a stony silence, just a musing things over...I
will answer when I am ready, human!' ;)  The outside entrance, thru which we
have always come and gone, has frozen shut with the cold, so we have to go
to see him thru the house.  He's caught glimpses of the 'others' and was
curious, ran to door, no hissing, fear, he seemed excited, and then started
his drooly purr.  I will let you know when he gives his answer :)

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:


From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:03 PM


Consider what you would want if you were Whimsy.  I don't know about another
version but would you rather have a buddy even if your life was a little
shorter?  I can't answer that for you.  I can tell you quality of life is
very important to me and my family--both 2 legged and 4 legged.

If I were considering a partner, I would probably look for a female (spayed)
and maybe younger but who knows  Whimsy may have other ideas.  For
reasons unknown, I have been blessed with animals who accepted each other. 
It hasn't mattered whether they were dogs or cats..I have been blessed. 
Follow your heart and ask your cat.
On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote:

 Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only!  (someone here said
'you control the door', and it was that simple.  a few protests, an escape
due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition)  I'm watching
him closely to make sure he isn't lonely.
 
 I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months
after he was fixed.  Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't
have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new
kitty, they'd have to be together right away...
 
 so, is it a good idea?
 should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings
to see how he reacts to other kitties?
 male or female?
 If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty
potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version?
 
 again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic.
 
 thank you!!
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-16 Thread Natalie
There's an alternative for Feliway - rub a drop of vanilla briskly between
your hands and then touch the cats' faces on the side where the facial
pheromone glands are located - this way all cats will smell the same.  A
very mild floral eau de cologne can also be used.
A good way of introducing cats is to exchange their bedding while they are
in different areas - that way, their individual scents will no longer be so
foreign.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Yes, Feliway is expensive but I would have done/spent anything to  
comfort Kitty.  She was my father's cat before he left this world  
and..well...luckily you don't have to use a lot at a time.   
You are right about the personality of the animal.  I have been  
blessed.  All of the dogs and cats I have tried to mix worked out  
wonderfully.  Maybe some of it is the person's expectations?  When  
I considered Bob, I asked his rescuer to send bedding and I sent  
bedding back.  The cats and Bob had lots of time to adjust to odor but  
I suspect they adjusted when they saw and communicated
On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 I bought the Feliway spray (very expensive) and I think it was a big  
 help.
 Also did the pet rescue remedy in water, too.
 Maybe that is why Lucky's integration went so well.
 But I must say, I think a lot has to do with the personality of the  
 animal, too.  Lucky is a very confident, walk up to you and say  
 'howdy' kind of guy!
 ~Bonnie
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?


 Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy in the water.Honest.   
 Kitty  was forced to leave her life long home to live with me.   
 There was  nothing that made her content much happy.  I slept on  
 the living room  floor for about three months until she came out  
 and was comfortable  (or as comfortable as she was going to be  
 then).  My holistic vet  suggested Feliway and that is what finally  
 got Kitty our from under  the couch. Feliway has helped several  
 ferals too.  Bob is integrating  with the cats (beagle/border  
 collie) thanks to Rescue Remedy and  letting them work it out  
 without me getting involved (other than  making sure there was no  
 blood shed).
 On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Beverly
 Oh, how I long for a home like yours!
 I agree about the intro, and I've tried to do it right with   
 everyone. The most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and   
 seems accepted by all. But there are tensions, especially between   
 Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan (she's a rehabilitated  
 feral).   I think boy cats are mellower, more accepting.  I would  
 love to see  everyone curled up together on the couch or my bed,  
 or playing  together.  Sigh.
 Thanks for another perspective!
 ~Bonnie
 - Original Message - From: Beverly Parsons
beve...@jerseycats.org
 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?


 Hi Bonnie,

 I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I  
 have  five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our  
 small  apartment and they are all best buds.  They rumble and  
 tumble and  play, and curl up and sleep together when they get  
 tired.  I don't  think any of them would do well as an only cat.   
 Most of my friends  and family also have multiple cats that are  
 great friends.

 It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of  
 a  new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy  
 relationship.

 Just my two cents.

 Beverly


 On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Shannon
 I have to tell you this story...
 I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors   
 only. There was a yard cat but they only saw eachother  
 through  the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I  
 decided to go  back to school to finish my degree.  I was  
 already working full  time, so this meant poor little Stormy  
 would be alone much of the  time.  In a move that is the *only*  
 time I've sought out a cat  (they usually just come to me, as  
 Stormy had) I went to the local  shelter and adopted a kitten  
 about 12 wks. old.  I brought him  home and said, Look Stormy  
 -- I got you a friend!
 Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I  
 don't  think she ever quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and   
 cats are
 solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case,  
 but generally speaking, I think most cats would 

Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-16 Thread Alice Flowers
I was not sure if getting a kitten would be the right thing for Rosie because 
she was so territorial when we brought Murphy home after he tested positive at 
the spay/neuter clinic and they were going to euthanize him if I didn't come 
pick him up quickly. She hissed and stalked him forever, but he was so mellow 
and stayed clear. At the time, she still had 2 of her brothers that she would 
cuddle up with and play with. After the 2nd brother passed, she walked the 
halls 
at night yowling and crying. It took a long time, but she finally stopped being 
mean to Murphy and they would lie side by side, birdwatching and they stayed 
fairly close to each other all day. Not the cuddly relationship, but they were 
company for each other. When Murphy passed, she again began to cry at night and 
spent alot of time sleeping. She checked out ok at the vet-she was just sad. 
When we brought Miso home, we had a large wire crate about 4 feet long with 2 
doors. He stayed in that most of the first few days. Rosie would charge at him, 
hissing and screaming-not a pretty sight. When he was eating or drinking, she 
tried to smack him through the bars of the cage! We had to barracade that side 
of the cage. We began to let him out in short intervals. Luckily, he is about 6 
months old and as big as her and very outgoing. Oh-he also has only one eye, 
which was a concern-we trimmed her nails. He followed her everywhere, when 
she'd 
turn to thump him, he laid down and was submissive, she would stop and walk 
away. He followed her everywhere-she did thump him a few times without using 
her 
claws and it didn't faze him at all. He loved all the toys and was so busy that 
he drew her into playing a few times. Now it's been almost a week and they are 
inseparable, she has her spark back and is playing all the time. It's been a 
really long time since she's played like a kitten, since her brothers died over 
a year ago. She never did have that relationship with Murphy-he was too afraid 
of her, I think. This one eyed kitten is fearless and so full of energy! We 
have 
adopted another kitten the same age, solid black, about 6 months old and he 
will 
be coming home in 3-4 weeks, after his 2nd FeLV vaccine. I hope things go as 
well. Miso still gets crated at night and he's fine with it, still alot better 
than the small cages at the adoption center. I am so grateful for CATS (Cats 
About Town Society) rescue group for allowing us to adopt these sweet babies 
and 
truly going the extra mile, getting them vaccinated and keeping them the extra 
month. They are all vaccinated, tested and FeLV negative, neutered, 
microchipped, clean and well socialized kittens that I have seen at the Natomas 
Petsmart near us (Sacramento, CA). I think keeping him in the big crate and 
letting her get used to him slowly the first few days really helped. I hope 
things go as well with the next one. I figured she was happy cuddling with her 
original brothers that it may work out fine. Also in the back of my mind is 
just 
in case she becomes ill and passes away, the kittens will still have each 
other. 
We have learned the hard way that it can happen so quickly. We have tried so 
hard to save them, even a transfusion for Jack, but he had such a bad reaction 
that we asked them to stop. Ahh-here comes Rosie now with a toy mouse in her 
mouth that she just stole from Miso!! Life is good again.  Alice Flowers-Clark 
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread MaiMaiPG
Consider what you would want if you were Whimsy.  I don't know about  
another version but would you rather have a buddy even if your life  
was a little shorter?  I can't answer that for you.  I can tell you  
quality of life is very important to me and my family--both 2 legged  
and 4 legged.


If I were considering a partner, I would probably look for a female  
(spayed) and maybe younger but who knows  Whimsy may have other  
ideas.  For reasons unknown, I have been blessed with animals who  
accepted each other.  It hasn't mattered whether they were dogs or  
cats..I have been blessed.  Follow your heart and ask your cat.

On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote:

Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only!  (someone here  
said 'you control the door', and it was that simple.  a few  
protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very  
smooth transition)  I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't  
lonely.


I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few  
months after he was fixed.  Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean  
he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get  
him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away...


so, is it a good idea?
should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his  
siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties?

male or female?
If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty  
potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version?


again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic.

thank you!!
Shannon



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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors only.  There 
was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window.  About a 
year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my 
degree.  I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy 
would be alone much of the time.  In a move that is the *only* time I've 
sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the 
local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.  I brought him home 
and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't think she 
ever quite forgave me...
From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are 
solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally 
speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of 
their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's 
queen and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's 
the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well.

Good luck!
~Bonnie
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From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?


Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you 
control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due 
to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching 
him closely to make sure he isn't lonely.


I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months 
after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't 
have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new 
kitty, they'd have to be together right away...


so, is it a good idea?
should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings 
to see how he reacts to other kitties?

male or female?
If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty 
potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version?


again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic.

thank you!!
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread MaiMaiPG
To add to this:  Dixie left this world and I was broken hearted.  She  
sent me Copper.  I really wanted a brother/sister/friend for him.  Two  
weeks later Thomas showed up.  They are wonderful brothers and they  
now have Bob, a dog, to train.  I really believe cats and dogs are  
easier in pairs but this is something you have to decide.  I hope Bob  
will have a dog friend one day but there are lots of things to think  
about.  He has been with me and the cats 4 months.  He is 2 years old  
and in need of a lot of attention.  That is dog stuff.   Re cats:  I  
really like two or more, especially if I am going to be gone a lot.

On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors  
only.  There was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through  
the window.  About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back  
to school to finish my degree.  I was already working full time, so  
this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time.  In a  
move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually  
just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and  
adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.  I brought him home and said,  
Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't  
think she ever quite forgave me...
From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats  
are
solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but  
generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to  
me out of their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let  
her know she's queen and let the others know they are to give her  
utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well.

Good luck!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?


Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here  
said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few  
protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very  
smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't  
lonely.


I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few  
months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean  
he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to  
get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away...


so, is it a good idea?
should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his  
siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties?

male or female?
If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty  
potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version?


again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic.

thank you!!
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread Beverly Parsons
Hi Bonnie,

I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I have five male 
cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are all 
best buds.  They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep together 
when they get tired.  I don't think any of them would do well as an only cat.  
Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends.

It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat to 
the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship.

Just my two cents.

Beverly


On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Shannon
 I have to tell you this story...
 I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors only.  There 
 was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window.  About a 
 year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my 
 degree.  I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy 
 would be alone much of the time.  In a move that is the *only* time I've 
 sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the 
 local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.  I brought him home and 
 said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!
 Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't think she 
 ever quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are 
 solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally 
 speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
 ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of 
 their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's queen 
 and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder 
 puss) and she's adjusted very well.
 Good luck!
 ~Bonnie
 - Original Message - From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
 
 
 Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you 
 control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to 
 a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him 
 closely to make sure he isn't lonely.
 
 I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months 
 after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have 
 a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, 
 they'd have to be together right away...
 
 so, is it a good idea?
 should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to 
 see how he reacts to other kitties?
 male or female?
 If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially 
 make him sicker with a more virulent version?
 
 again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic.
 
 thank you!!
 Shannon
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Beverly
Oh, how I long for a home like yours!
I agree about the intro, and I've tried to do it right with everyone.  The 
most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. 
But there are tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya 
Chan (she's a rehabilitated feral).  I think boy cats are mellower, more 
accepting.  I would love to see everyone curled up together on the couch or 
my bed, or playing together.  Sigh.

Thanks for another perspective!
~Bonnie
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From: Beverly Parsons beve...@jerseycats.org

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?



Hi Bonnie,

I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I have five 
male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and 
they are all best buds.  They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and 
sleep together when they get tired.  I don't think any of them would do 
well as an only cat.  Most of my friends and family also have multiple 
cats that are great friends.


It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new 
cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship.


Just my two cents.

Beverly


On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors only. 
There was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window. 
About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to 
finish my degree.  I was already working full time, so this meant poor 
little Stormy would be alone much of the time.  In a move that is the 
*only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as 
Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 
wks. old.  I brought him home and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a 
friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't think 
she ever quite forgave me...

From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are
solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but 
generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out 
of their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's 
queen and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect 
(she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well.

Good luck!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Emeraldkittee 
emeraldkit...@yahoo.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?


Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 
'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an 
escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) 
I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely.


I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few 
months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he 
couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him 
used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away...


so, is it a good idea?
should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his 
siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties?

male or female?
If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty 
potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version?


again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic.

thank you!!
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread Beverly Parsons
Yes, I do very much agree that boys are better at multi cat situations than 
girls are, from my experience at least.  We're pretty lucky here.  :-)


On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Beverly
 Oh, how I long for a home like yours!
 I agree about the intro, and I've tried to do it right with everyone.  The 
 most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But 
 there are tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan 
 (she's a rehabilitated feral).  I think boy cats are mellower, more 
 accepting.  I would love to see everyone curled up together on the couch or 
 my bed, or playing together.  Sigh.
 Thanks for another perspective!
 ~Bonnie
 - Original Message - From: Beverly Parsons beve...@jerseycats.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
 
 
 Hi Bonnie,
 
 I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I have five male 
 cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are 
 all best buds.  They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep 
 together when they get tired.  I don't think any of them would do well as an 
 only cat.  Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are 
 great friends.
 
 It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat 
 to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship.
 
 Just my two cents.
 
 Beverly
 
 
 On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 
 Shannon
 I have to tell you this story...
 I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors only. There 
 was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window. About a 
 year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my 
 degree.  I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy 
 would be alone much of the time.  In a move that is the *only* time I've 
 sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to 
 the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.  I brought him 
 home and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!
 Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't think she 
 ever quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are
 solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally 
 speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
 ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out 
 of their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's 
 queen and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's 
 the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well.
 Good luck!
 ~Bonnie
 - Original Message - From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
 
 
 Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you 
 control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due 
 to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching 
 him closely to make sure he isn't lonely.
 
 I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months 
 after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't 
 have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new 
 kitty, they'd have to be together right away...
 
 so, is it a good idea?
 should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings 
 to see how he reacts to other kitties?
 male or female?
 If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty 
 potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version?
 
 again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic.
 
 thank you!!
 Shannon
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread MaiMaiPG
Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy in the water.Honest.  Kitty  
was forced to leave her life long home to live with me.  There was  
nothing that made her content much happy.  I slept on the living room  
floor for about three months until she came out and was comfortable  
(or as comfortable as she was going to be then).  My holistic vet  
suggested Feliway and that is what finally got Kitty our from under  
the couch.  Feliway has helped several ferals too.  Bob is integrating  
with the cats (beagle/border collie) thanks to Rescue Remedy and  
letting them work it out without me getting involved (other than  
making sure there was no blood shed).

On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Beverly
Oh, how I long for a home like yours!
I agree about the intro, and I've tried to do it right with  
everyone.  The most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and  
seems accepted by all. But there are tensions, especially between  
Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan (she's a rehabilitated feral).   
I think boy cats are mellower, more accepting.  I would love to see  
everyone curled up together on the couch or my bed, or playing  
together.  Sigh.

Thanks for another perspective!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Beverly Parsons beve...@jerseycats.org 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?



Hi Bonnie,

I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I have  
five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small  
apartment and they are all best buds.  They rumble and tumble and  
play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired.  I don't  
think any of them would do well as an only cat.  Most of my friends  
and family also have multiple cats that are great friends.


It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a  
new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship.


Just my two cents.

Beverly


On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors  
only. There was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through  
the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go  
back to school to finish my degree.  I was already working full  
time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the  
time.  In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat  
(they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local  
shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.  I brought him  
home and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't  
think she ever quite forgave me...
From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and  
cats are
solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but  
generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to  
me out of their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let  
her know she's queen and let the others know they are to give  
her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very  
well.

Good luck!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?


Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here  
said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few  
protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very  
smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't  
lonely.


I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a  
few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily  
mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have  
anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be  
together right away...


so, is it a good idea?
should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his  
siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties?

male or female?
If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty  
potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version?


again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic.

thank you!!
Shannon



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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread MaiMaiPG
Yes, Feliway is expensive but I would have done/spent anything to  
comfort Kitty.  She was my father's cat before he left this world  
and..well...luckily you don't have to use a lot at a time.   
You are right about the personality of the animal.  I have been  
blessed.  All of the dogs and cats I have tried to mix worked out  
wonderfully.  Maybe some of it is the person's expectations?  When  
I considered Bob, I asked his rescuer to send bedding and I sent  
bedding back.  The cats and Bob had lots of time to adjust to odor but  
I suspect they adjusted when they saw and communicated

On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

I bought the Feliway spray (very expensive) and I think it was a big  
help.

Also did the pet rescue remedy in water, too.
Maybe that is why Lucky's integration went so well.
But I must say, I think a lot has to do with the personality of the  
animal, too.  Lucky is a very confident, walk up to you and say  
'howdy' kind of guy!

~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?


Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy in the water.Honest.   
Kitty  was forced to leave her life long home to live with me.   
There was  nothing that made her content much happy.  I slept on  
the living room  floor for about three months until she came out  
and was comfortable  (or as comfortable as she was going to be  
then).  My holistic vet  suggested Feliway and that is what finally  
got Kitty our from under  the couch. Feliway has helped several  
ferals too.  Bob is integrating  with the cats (beagle/border  
collie) thanks to Rescue Remedy and  letting them work it out  
without me getting involved (other than  making sure there was no  
blood shed).

On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Beverly
Oh, how I long for a home like yours!
I agree about the intro, and I've tried to do it right with   
everyone. The most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and   
seems accepted by all. But there are tensions, especially between   
Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan (she's a rehabilitated  
feral).   I think boy cats are mellower, more accepting.  I would  
love to see  everyone curled up together on the couch or my bed,  
or playing  together.  Sigh.

Thanks for another perspective!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Beverly Parsons beve...@jerseycats.org

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?



Hi Bonnie,

I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I  
have  five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our  
small  apartment and they are all best buds.  They rumble and  
tumble and  play, and curl up and sleep together when they get  
tired.  I don't  think any of them would do well as an only cat.   
Most of my friends  and family also have multiple cats that are  
great friends.


It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of  
a  new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy  
relationship.


Just my two cents.

Beverly


On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors   
only. There was a yard cat but they only saw eachother  
through  the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I  
decided to go  back to school to finish my degree.  I was  
already working full  time, so this meant poor little Stormy  
would be alone much of the  time.  In a move that is the *only*  
time I've sought out a cat  (they usually just come to me, as  
Stormy had) I went to the local  shelter and adopted a kitten  
about 12 wks. old.  I brought him  home and said, Look Stormy  
-- I got you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I  
don't  think she ever quite forgave me...
From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and   
cats are
solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case,  
but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the  
only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came  
to  me out of their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but  
I let  her know she's queen and let the others know they are  
to give  her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's  
adjusted very  well.

Good luck!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?


Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone  
here  said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a  
few  protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall  
very  smooth transition) I'm watching him 

Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread Emeraldkittee
It's funny you mention asking him, because I have, and he's been silent about 
the whole thing.  Not a stony silence, just a musing things over...I will 
answer when I am ready, human!' ;)  The outside entrance, thru which we have 
always come and gone, has frozen shut with the cold, so we have to go to see 
him thru the house.  He's caught glimpses of the 'others' and was curious, ran 
to door, no hissing, fear, he seemed excited, and then started his drooly 
purr.  I will let you know when he gives his answer :)

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:


From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:03 PM


Consider what you would want if you were Whimsy.  I don't know about another 
version but would you rather have a buddy even if your life was a little 
shorter?  I can't answer that for you.  I can tell you quality of life is very 
important to me and my family--both 2 legged and 4 legged.

If I were considering a partner, I would probably look for a female (spayed) 
and maybe younger but who knows  Whimsy may have other ideas.  For reasons 
unknown, I have been blessed with animals who accepted each other.  It hasn't 
mattered whether they were dogs or cats..I have been blessed.  Follow your 
heart and ask your cat.
On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote:

 Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only!  (someone here said 'you 
 control the door', and it was that simple.  a few protests, an escape due to 
 a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition)  I'm watching him 
 closely to make sure he isn't lonely.
 
 I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months 
 after he was fixed.  Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have 
 a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, 
 they'd have to be together right away...
 
 so, is it a good idea?
 should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to 
 see how he reacts to other kitties?
 male or female?
 If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially 
 make him sicker with a more virulent version?
 
 again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic.
 
 thank you!!
 Shannon
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread Emeraldkittee
thanks for sharing, Bonnie!  I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know there 
are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy ones, who I 
loved dearly.  We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - queen, too. :)

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:


From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors only.  There 
was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window.  About a year 
after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree.  I 
was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone 
much of the time.  In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat 
(they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and 
adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.  I brought him home and said, Look Stormy 
-- I got you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't think she ever 
quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are 
solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally 
speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of 
their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's queen 
and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder 
puss) and she's adjusted very well.
Good luck!


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

2010-12-15 Thread Joslin Potter
I wondered the same thing too, but with the adoption of our newest pomeranian, 
i 
realized that another cat was not in the game plan, believe it or not, my cat 
thinks of the puppy as it's kitten, truly different.





From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, December 15, 2010 10:49:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?

thanks for sharing, Bonnie!  I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know there 
are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy ones, who I 
loved dearly.  We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - queen, too. :)

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:


From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM


Shannon
I have to tell you this story...
I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.  She was indoors only.  There 
was 
a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window.  About a year 
after 
getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree.  I was 
already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much 
of the time.  In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they 
usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted 
a kitten about 12 wks. old.  I brought him home and said, Look Stormy -- I got 
you a friend!
Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.  Oops.  I don't think she ever 
quite forgave me...
 From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are 
solitary.  That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally 
speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only.
ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of 
their need.  She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's queen 
and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder 
puss) and she's adjusted very well.
Good luck!


      
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