Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-06-01 Thread Sara Kasteleyn

Hi Julie.I hope you're feeling a little more upbeat this morning after the 
good advice from the list yesterday. We can certainly relate to your anxiety.

We adopted a brother and sister at 12 weeks, and after overcoming some 
socialization issues, we took them to be spayed/neutered at 6 months.  In the 
pre-op bloodwork, it was discovered they were both FeLV positive.  We were 
heartbroken, but came to this list for the advice you have received on good 
food, as little stress as possible,and to be on guard for the first signs of 
infection or abnormal health.  The only time we have kept them apart has been 
immediately after their spay/neuter procedures for about 8 hours.  They groom 
each other, tussle, and are together generally 24-7...of course, they are both 
positive, so this has colored our choice in that regard.  However, you'll find 
plenty of others on the list who firmly believe they can be together with 
negative cats with no bad result. 

We have been giving each of our cats periodic injections of  LTCI.  Some on the 
list have used this with good results, others not so much.  In consultation 
with our vet, and since our cats are asymptomatic, we feel it is having some 
positive effect on boosting their immune systems to keep them healthy.  Perhaps 
they would be this healthy without it...we just don't know.  They are now 15 
months old and are both doing fine.  We feed them a combination of Wellness 
dry, wet, and Radcat raw. 

Despite all the bad press out there, people here will reassure you that this 
diagnosis is not necessarily a death sentence.   Check back with the list 
often.  Many people have used various methods to keep their little ones 
healthy, and they are happy to share without thinking their method is the one 
and only.  We're all looking for the same answers.

Enjoy them, give them lots of love and attention and try to relax.  If you have 
not established a good relationship with a vet who can support you, it's a good 
time to seek out that relationship. 

Very best wishes to you,

Sara

 
--Original Mail--
From: Julie Dalesio Gladnick juliegladn...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:26:55 -0700
Subject: [Felvtalk] needing support

Hi there-

I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some feedback.
I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister. At 7 weeks, I had
them tested for FeLV. The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
negative. Is that even possible? They have been living together for 7
weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point? I am taking them
both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the IFA and she can be
vaccinated. I am absolutely devastated. I am in love with both of these
kitties and am looking for some hope. My boy kitty is active and playful,
though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little less. I'm
totally freaked out. I am keeping the two apart, which is also killing me,
because they are such a comfort for each other. Does anyone know what my
odds are for his second test being negative? Is is weird that she's
negative? If he is positive, do I have to keep them apart forever? If we
have a baby and he is positive, do we have to get rid of him? I can't even
bare thinking of all of this, as he snuggles on my tummy purring while I
type. Any advice, support, guidance is sincerely appreciated.

-- 
-Julie
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Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-06-01 Thread Heather
Hi,

I think you are referring to Toxoplasmosis, I too wondered if perhaps Julie
was misinformed and that was what she was referring to as I know of no
reasons that any human being around an FELV+ cat is a problem.

For anecdoctal value, I am somewhat immune compromised and have cared for a
Toxo+ cat with no problems.  I mentioned to my vet how sad it is, the # of
people misinformed by their vets who think that pregnant women must get rid
of their cats and she agreed--she is a very cautious person and has had 2
babies of her own in the last 3 years, she said she even scooped her own
litterboxes (not to mention all she does at their cat only vet practice).
She indicated that it takes something like 48 hrs. for toxo to even begin to
develop after a cat has defecated (something like this) so it's mostly a
risk for people who don't keep their boxes clean.

Anyway, I would never want to steer anyone wrong so hopefully someone else
will pipe in, but to my knowledge there is no reason for anyone, pregnant,
baby or otherwise, to worry about being around an FELV+ kitty.

Julie, you obviously care about these kitties very much and it is to be
commended!  I do resecue and all we seem to hear day in and day out is
people who are NOT willing to even do the smallest thing to help a cat in
need, let alone all you are doing.

Wishing you the best with these special babies!  Please do post the test
results.

Heather

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.netwrote:

 There is a disease that pregnant women can get from the litter box
 cleaning...
 It is very rare and I think you have to stick your fingers in your mouth
 after
 handling litter in order to get it...
 I don't think it has anything to do with FeLV
 It can cause brain damage to the fetus if you should get it and that is why
 some doctors make such a big deal about it But if you wash your hands
 after cleaning litter box or wear gloves or even better get daddy to do
 litter
 duty than it is almost impossible that you will get it

 Tad


 Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:

 Hi Tad-

 Thank you so much for your supportive words.  I am so sorry to hear about
 your girl kitty, but it certainly does bring some perspective and reality.
 I think I will take your advice and let them be together at least until
 the
 second test; they are so much happier.  I guess my hesitancy is that I
 don't
 think I could deal if they both were positive.  Then again, I never
 imagined
 dealing with either of them facing this.  Do anyone have any info on
 pregnant woman or babies and FeLV cats?  I've obviously read that they
 should not be together, but does anyone have actual experience?  I've been
 finding that a lot of info online tends to be pretty negative.

 Thanks again, I feel truly grateful.

 On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net
 wrote:



 Hi Julie
 You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story to
 tell...
 Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux kittens.. Boy
 was
 pos
 and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them and the vet
 advised
 that
 she surely she had been exposed and she might be one of the few that have
 a
 strong natural immunity or else she wouldgo pos at some time later...
 Anyway
 she got vaccinated but not separated
 The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I remember
 thinking
 how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and passed on
 leaving
 her
 As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening after only a
 month...
 Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some emergenct
 treatment
 but she died while still at the vets in the middle of the morning
 The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things that can
 take a cat
 early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During his life I got hms
 several
 other pos kitties and most of the he out lived too...
 There is also a good chance that the 1st test is a false pos... Do get
 that 2nd test
 and we will all hope for the best...
 If it were me I would let the stay together... Keep them happy and no
 stress...
 Feed them a good quality food and have a vet that approves of keeping a
 pos
 kitty
 and will give you an appointment in very short time if you think
 something
 is wrong..
 They may have a weak immune system and need antibiotics quickly...
 FeLV+ kitties seem to know that you are taking special care of them and
 are extra
 loving in return

 Tad



 Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:

 Hi there-


 I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some
 feedback.
 I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister.  At 7 weeks, I had
 them tested for FeLV.  The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
 negative.  Is that even possible?  They have been living together for 7
 weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point?  I am taking
 them
 both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with 

Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-06-01 Thread Heather
Oops, correction, people are often misinformed by their human doctors.   My
vet said she can't believe some of the things people tell her that their
have doctors told them.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I think you are referring to Toxoplasmosis, I too wondered if perhaps Julie
 was misinformed and that was what she was referring to as I know of no
 reasons that any human being around an FELV+ cat is a problem.

 For anecdoctal value, I am somewhat immune compromised and have cared for a
 Toxo+ cat with no problems.  I mentioned to my vet how sad it is, the # of
 people misinformed by their vets who think that pregnant women must get rid
 of their cats and she agreed--she is a very cautious person and has had 2
 babies of her own in the last 3 years, she said she even scooped her own
 litterboxes (not to mention all she does at their cat only vet practice).
 She indicated that it takes something like 48 hrs. for toxo to even begin to
 develop after a cat has defecated (something like this) so it's mostly a
 risk for people who don't keep their boxes clean.

 Anyway, I would never want to steer anyone wrong so hopefully someone else
 will pipe in, but to my knowledge there is no reason for anyone, pregnant,
 baby or otherwise, to worry about being around an FELV+ kitty.

 Julie, you obviously care about these kitties very much and it is to be
 commended!  I do resecue and all we seem to hear day in and day out is
 people who are NOT willing to even do the smallest thing to help a cat in
 need, let alone all you are doing.

 Wishing you the best with these special babies!  Please do post the test
 results.

 Heather

   On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Tad Burnett 
 tadburn...@vermontel.netwrote:

 There is a disease that pregnant women can get from the litter box
 cleaning...
 It is very rare and I think you have to stick your fingers in your mouth
 after
 handling litter in order to get it...
 I don't think it has anything to do with FeLV
 It can cause brain damage to the fetus if you should get it and that is
 why
 some doctors make such a big deal about it But if you wash your hands
 after cleaning litter box or wear gloves or even better get daddy to do
 litter
 duty than it is almost impossible that you will get it

 Tad


 Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:

 Hi Tad-

 Thank you so much for your supportive words.  I am so sorry to hear about
 your girl kitty, but it certainly does bring some perspective and
 reality.
 I think I will take your advice and let them be together at least until
 the
 second test; they are so much happier.  I guess my hesitancy is that I
 don't
 think I could deal if they both were positive.  Then again, I never
 imagined
 dealing with either of them facing this.  Do anyone have any info on
 pregnant woman or babies and FeLV cats?  I've obviously read that they
 should not be together, but does anyone have actual experience?  I've
 been
 finding that a lot of info online tends to be pretty negative.

 Thanks again, I feel truly grateful.

 On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net
 wrote:



 Hi Julie
 You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story to
 tell...
 Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux kittens.. Boy
 was
 pos
 and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them and the vet
 advised
 that
 she surely she had been exposed and she might be one of the few that
 have a
 strong natural immunity or else she wouldgo pos at some time later...
 Anyway
 she got vaccinated but not separated
 The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I remember
 thinking
 how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and passed on
 leaving
 her
 As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening after only
 a
 month...
 Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some emergenct
 treatment
 but she died while still at the vets in the middle of the morning
 The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things that can
 take a cat
 early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During his life I got
 hms
 several
 other pos kitties and most of the he out lived too...
 There is also a good chance that the 1st test is a false pos... Do get
 that 2nd test
 and we will all hope for the best...
 If it were me I would let the stay together... Keep them happy and no
 stress...
 Feed them a good quality food and have a vet that approves of keeping a
 pos
 kitty
 and will give you an appointment in very short time if you think
 something
 is wrong..
 They may have a weak immune system and need antibiotics quickly...
 FeLV+ kitties seem to know that you are taking special care of them and
 are extra
 loving in return

 Tad



 Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:

 Hi there-


 I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some
 feedback.
 I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister.  At 7 weeks, 

Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-06-01 Thread Julie Dalesio Gladnick
Thank you so much, Sarah and Heather-

Everyone's posts have really helped me, though I am still so worried about
both Max and Maggie.  It seems like I'm hypervigilant to everything he
does.  He sneezed twice in 24 hours and I'm freaked out.  It's amazing how
attached we can get to these furry people so quickly.  Thank you everyone
for your words of encouragement, experience, thoughts and prayers.  We are
getting the IFA test this afternoon for Max, so I imagine I will have the
results in a couple of days.  I will certainly keep you all posted.

Warmest regards,
Julie

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oops, correction, people are often misinformed by their human doctors.   My
 vet said she can't believe some of the things people tell her that their
 have doctors told them.

 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I think you are referring to Toxoplasmosis, I too wondered if perhaps
 Julie
  was misinformed and that was what she was referring to as I know of no
  reasons that any human being around an FELV+ cat is a problem.
 
  For anecdoctal value, I am somewhat immune compromised and have cared for
 a
  Toxo+ cat with no problems.  I mentioned to my vet how sad it is, the #
 of
  people misinformed by their vets who think that pregnant women must get
 rid
  of their cats and she agreed--she is a very cautious person and has had 2
  babies of her own in the last 3 years, she said she even scooped her own
  litterboxes (not to mention all she does at their cat only vet practice).
  She indicated that it takes something like 48 hrs. for toxo to even begin
 to
  develop after a cat has defecated (something like this) so it's mostly a
  risk for people who don't keep their boxes clean.
 
  Anyway, I would never want to steer anyone wrong so hopefully someone
 else
  will pipe in, but to my knowledge there is no reason for anyone,
 pregnant,
  baby or otherwise, to worry about being around an FELV+ kitty.
 
  Julie, you obviously care about these kitties very much and it is to be
  commended!  I do resecue and all we seem to hear day in and day out is
  people who are NOT willing to even do the smallest thing to help a cat in
  need, let alone all you are doing.
 
  Wishing you the best with these special babies!  Please do post the test
  results.
 
  Heather
 
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net
 wrote:
 
  There is a disease that pregnant women can get from the litter box
  cleaning...
  It is very rare and I think you have to stick your fingers in your mouth
  after
  handling litter in order to get it...
  I don't think it has anything to do with FeLV
  It can cause brain damage to the fetus if you should get it and that is
  why
  some doctors make such a big deal about it But if you wash your
 hands
  after cleaning litter box or wear gloves or even better get daddy to do
  litter
  duty than it is almost impossible that you will get it
 
  Tad
 
 
  Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:
 
  Hi Tad-
 
  Thank you so much for your supportive words.  I am so sorry to hear
 about
  your girl kitty, but it certainly does bring some perspective and
  reality.
  I think I will take your advice and let them be together at least until
  the
  second test; they are so much happier.  I guess my hesitancy is that I
  don't
  think I could deal if they both were positive.  Then again, I never
  imagined
  dealing with either of them facing this.  Do anyone have any info on
  pregnant woman or babies and FeLV cats?  I've obviously read that they
  should not be together, but does anyone have actual experience?  I've
  been
  finding that a lot of info online tends to be pretty negative.
 
  Thanks again, I feel truly grateful.
 
  On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net
  wrote:
 
 
 
  Hi Julie
  You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story to
  tell...
  Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux kittens..
 Boy
  was
  pos
  and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them and the vet
  advised
  that
  she surely she had been exposed and she might be one of the few that
  have a
  strong natural immunity or else she wouldgo pos at some time later...
  Anyway
  she got vaccinated but not separated
  The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I remember
  thinking
  how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and passed on
  leaving
  her
  As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening after
 only
  a
  month...
  Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some
 emergenct
  treatment
  but she died while still at the vets in the middle of the morning
  The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things that can
  take a cat
  early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During his life I got
  hms
  several
  other pos kitties and most of the he out 

Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-06-01 Thread Tad Burnett
Next time a doc warns you of some possibility of an off the wall disease 
that you could get
ask him if the risk is greater or less than the risk of you getting hurt 
in an automobile accident
while driving to his office He probably won't give you an answer but 
watch the expression
on his face... The risk in a car accident is hundreds or thousands of 
time more likely than many

things that we worry about...
Tad


Heather wrote:


Oops, correction, people are often misinformed by their human doctors.   My
vet said she can't believe some of the things people tell her that their
have doctors told them.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:

 


Hi,

I think you are referring to Toxoplasmosis, I too wondered if perhaps Julie
was misinformed and that was what she was referring to as I know of no
reasons that any human being around an FELV+ cat is a problem.

For anecdoctal value, I am somewhat immune compromised and have cared for a
Toxo+ cat with no problems.  I mentioned to my vet how sad it is, the # of
people misinformed by their vets who think that pregnant women must get rid
of their cats and she agreed--she is a very cautious person and has had 2
babies of her own in the last 3 years, she said she even scooped her own
litterboxes (not to mention all she does at their cat only vet practice).
She indicated that it takes something like 48 hrs. for toxo to even begin to
develop after a cat has defecated (something like this) so it's mostly a
risk for people who don't keep their boxes clean.

Anyway, I would never want to steer anyone wrong so hopefully someone else
will pipe in, but to my knowledge there is no reason for anyone, pregnant,
baby or otherwise, to worry about being around an FELV+ kitty.

Julie, you obviously care about these kitties very much and it is to be
commended!  I do resecue and all we seem to hear day in and day out is
people who are NOT willing to even do the smallest thing to help a cat in
need, let alone all you are doing.

Wishing you the best with these special babies!  Please do post the test
results.

Heather

 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.netwrote:

   


There is a disease that pregnant women can get from the litter box
cleaning...
It is very rare and I think you have to stick your fingers in your mouth
after
handling litter in order to get it...
I don't think it has anything to do with FeLV
It can cause brain damage to the fetus if you should get it and that is
why
some doctors make such a big deal about it But if you wash your hands
after cleaning litter box or wear gloves or even better get daddy to do
litter
duty than it is almost impossible that you will get it

Tad


Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:

Hi Tad-
 


Thank you so much for your supportive words.  I am so sorry to hear about
your girl kitty, but it certainly does bring some perspective and
reality.
I think I will take your advice and let them be together at least until
the
second test; they are so much happier.  I guess my hesitancy is that I
don't
think I could deal if they both were positive.  Then again, I never
imagined
dealing with either of them facing this.  Do anyone have any info on
pregnant woman or babies and FeLV cats?  I've obviously read that they
should not be together, but does anyone have actual experience?  I've
been
finding that a lot of info online tends to be pretty negative.

Thanks again, I feel truly grateful.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net
   


wrote:
 



   


Hi Julie
You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story to
tell...
Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux kittens.. Boy
was
pos
and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them and the vet
advised
that
she surely she had been exposed and she might be one of the few that
have a
strong natural immunity or else she wouldgo pos at some time later...
Anyway
she got vaccinated but not separated
The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I remember
thinking
how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and passed on
leaving
her
As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening after only
a
month...
Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some emergenct
treatment
but she died while still at the vets in the middle of the morning
The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things that can
take a cat
early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During his life I got
hms
several
other pos kitties and most of the he out lived too...
There is also a good chance that the 1st test is a false pos... Do get
that 2nd test
and we will all hope for the best...
If it were me I would let the stay together... Keep them happy and no
stress...
Feed them a good quality food and have a vet that approves of keeping a
pos
kitty
and will give you an appointment in very short time if you think

Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-06-01 Thread Gloria Lane

Good one!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net  
wrote:


Next time a doc warns you of some possibility of an off the wall  
disease that you could get
ask him if the risk is greater or less than the risk of you getting  
hurt in an automobile accident
while driving to his office He probably won't give you an answer  
but watch the expression
on his face... The risk in a car accident is hundreds or thousands  
of time more likely than many

things that we worry about...
Tad


Heather wrote:

Oops, correction, people are often misinformed by their human  
doctors.   My
vet said she can't believe some of the things people tell her that  
their

have doctors told them.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi,

I think you are referring to Toxoplasmosis, I too wondered if  
perhaps Julie
was misinformed and that was what she was referring to as I know  
of no

reasons that any human being around an FELV+ cat is a problem.

For anecdoctal value, I am somewhat immune compromised and have  
cared for a
Toxo+ cat with no problems.  I mentioned to my vet how sad it is,  
the # of
people misinformed by their vets who think that pregnant women  
must get rid
of their cats and she agreed--she is a very cautious person and  
has had 2
babies of her own in the last 3 years, she said she even scooped  
her own
litterboxes (not to mention all she does at their cat only vet  
practice).
She indicated that it takes something like 48 hrs. for toxo to  
even begin to
develop after a cat has defecated (something like this) so it's  
mostly a

risk for people who don't keep their boxes clean.

Anyway, I would never want to steer anyone wrong so hopefully  
someone else
will pipe in, but to my knowledge there is no reason for anyone,  
pregnant,

baby or otherwise, to worry about being around an FELV+ kitty.

Julie, you obviously care about these kitties very much and it is  
to be
commended!  I do resecue and all we seem to hear day in and day  
out is
people who are NOT willing to even do the smallest thing to help a  
cat in

need, let alone all you are doing.

Wishing you the best with these special babies!  Please do post  
the test

results.

Heather

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net 
wrote:




There is a disease that pregnant women can get from the litter box
cleaning...
It is very rare and I think you have to stick your fingers in  
your mouth

after
handling litter in order to get it...
I don't think it has anything to do with FeLV
It can cause brain damage to the fetus if you should get it and  
that is

why
some doctors make such a big deal about it But if you wash  
your hands
after cleaning litter box or wear gloves or even better get daddy  
to do

litter
duty than it is almost impossible that you will get it

Tad


Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:

Hi Tad-

Thank you so much for your supportive words.  I am so sorry to  
hear about

your girl kitty, but it certainly does bring some perspective and
reality.
I think I will take your advice and let them be together at  
least until

the
second test; they are so much happier.  I guess my hesitancy is  
that I

don't
think I could deal if they both were positive.  Then again, I  
never

imagined
dealing with either of them facing this.  Do anyone have any  
info on
pregnant woman or babies and FeLV cats?  I've obviously read  
that they
should not be together, but does anyone have actual experience?  
I've

been
finding that a lot of info online tends to be pretty negative.

Thanks again, I feel truly grateful.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net


wrote:





Hi Julie
You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story  
to

tell...
Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux  
kittens.. Boy

was
pos
and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them and the  
vet

advised
that
she surely she had been exposed and she might be one of the few  
that

have a
strong natural immunity or else she wouldgo pos at some time  
later...

Anyway
she got vaccinated but not separated
The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I  
remember

thinking
how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and passed  
on

leaving
her
As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening  
after only

a
month...
Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some  
emergenct

treatment
but she died while still at the vets in the middle of the  
morning
The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things  
that can

take a cat
early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During his life  
I got

hms
several
other pos kitties and most of the he out lived too...
There is also a good chance that the 1st test is a false pos...  
Do get

that 2nd test
and we will all hope for the best...
If it were me I would let the stay together... Keep 

Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-06-01 Thread Julie Dalesio Gladnick
Hi everyone. Max has had really soft stool for the past 24 hours and Maggie
had a little bit of diarrhea with blood on it this morning (she's the one
who   tested negative). They can't give Maggie the vaccination today bc of
the diarhea but will test max with the ifa. I'm creaking out. I'm bringing
in both stool samples today. They had their distemper vaccs and were
deepened last Thursday. This just isn't right. They are both full of energy
and eating well.

On Jun 1, 2010 7:58 AM, Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:

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Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-05-31 Thread Kathi Clark

Julie,

 

I, too, freaked out when I found out my new kitty was positive.  She lives in a 
my household with 4 other cats and as far as I know, none of the others have 
been infected.  I do get each one of them (except for the + one) FeLV boosted 
every year.  She's now 4 years old and is a fun, playful cat with no signs of 
sickness.  You need to just try to relax because you may not have that much 
need for concern.  If you get the girl vaccinated and then boosted every year, 
they may be able to live together for the rest of their lives.  His second test 
could be negative.  She may be negative because there wasn't that much physical 
contact between the two?  Mine, that is FeLV positive, played intensely with 
one of my young boy kitties and he tested positive; however, I kept them 
separated and 6 weeks later, he tested negative and, as far as I know, he is 
still negative.  This was 4 years ago and my healthy ones show no signs of 
disease.  Good luck and try not to get too upset.  Just relax and enjoy them.

 

Kathi
 
 Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:26:55 -0700
 From: juliegladn...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] needing support
 
 Hi there-
 
 I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some feedback.
 I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister. At 7 weeks, I had
 them tested for FeLV. The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
 negative. Is that even possible? They have been living together for 7
 weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point? I am taking them
 both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the IFA and she can be
 vaccinated. I am absolutely devastated. I am in love with both of these
 kitties and am looking for some hope. My boy kitty is active and playful,
 though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little less. I'm
 totally freaked out. I am keeping the two apart, which is also killing me,
 because they are such a comfort for each other. Does anyone know what my
 odds are for his second test being negative? Is is weird that she's
 negative? If he is positive, do I have to keep them apart forever? If we
 have a baby and he is positive, do we have to get rid of him? I can't even
 bare thinking of all of this, as he snuggles on my tummy purring while I
 type. Any advice, support, guidance is sincerely appreciated.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-05-31 Thread Julie Dalesio Gladnick
Thank you so much, Kathi- I'm needing as much support as I can get.  I love
these two more than anything and can't stand thinking about them in pain.
Yes, they have been playing and grooming each other for 7 weeks; I'm hoping
that the test was faulty, because if not, it sounds like Maggie will soon be
infected, as well.  I can't stand waiting, yet that's all I seem to be able
to do right now.  I have them separated currently, as well, which both they
and me are hating.  Thanks again for your support.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Kathi Clark kathi_cl...@hotmail.comwrote:


 Julie,



 I, too, freaked out when I found out my new kitty was positive.  She lives
 in a my household with 4 other cats and as far as I know, none of the others
 have been infected.  I do get each one of them (except for the + one) FeLV
 boosted every year.  She's now 4 years old and is a fun, playful cat with no
 signs of sickness.  You need to just try to relax because you may not have
 that much need for concern.  If you get the girl vaccinated and then boosted
 every year, they may be able to live together for the rest of their lives.
  His second test could be negative.  She may be negative because there
 wasn't that much physical contact between the two?  Mine, that is FeLV
 positive, played intensely with one of my young boy kitties and he tested
 positive; however, I kept them separated and 6 weeks later, he tested
 negative and, as far as I know, he is still negative.  This was 4 years ago
 and my healthy ones show no signs of disease.  Good luck and try not to get
 too upset.  Just relax and enjoy them.



 Kathi

  Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:26:55 -0700
  From: juliegladn...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] needing support
 
  Hi there-
 
  I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some
 feedback.
  I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister. At 7 weeks, I had
  them tested for FeLV. The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
  negative. Is that even possible? They have been living together for 7
  weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point? I am taking them
  both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the IFA and she can be
  vaccinated. I am absolutely devastated. I am in love with both of these
  kitties and am looking for some hope. My boy kitty is active and playful,
  though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little less.
 I'm
  totally freaked out. I am keeping the two apart, which is also killing
 me,
  because they are such a comfort for each other. Does anyone know what my
  odds are for his second test being negative? Is is weird that she's
  negative? If he is positive, do I have to keep them apart forever? If we
  have a baby and he is positive, do we have to get rid of him? I can't
 even
  bare thinking of all of this, as he snuggles on my tummy purring while I
  type. Any advice, support, guidance is sincerely appreciated.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-05-31 Thread Chris
You are definitely in the right place!  You'll get lots of good ideas here...  
As someone owned by 3 FELV -  1 FELV+ cat, I can understand how frightening 
this all is.  My Tucson is 8 + years old  I've had her since she's a kitten. I 
never seperated them  no one has turned pos in all these years.  My Tucson had 
a neg Elissa (snap) test when she was a kitten  had pos 4 years later--go 
figure!  I had one other cat, Romeo, who I took in after feeding him as a stray 
for a couple of years.  He was the oldest cat  lived w. me for several years, 
healthy  happy--sadly he succumbed to lymphoma last fall.  

You might want to wait a bit for the IFA--its always possible he fights the 
virus off.  As for risk to humans, there is absolutely none.  FELV is a virus 
that suppresses cat's immune system--pos cats don't ever die from the virus but 
they are much more prone to succumb to any sort of infections or some forms of 
cancer.  W. kittens, the riskiest things are upper respiratory or urine tract 
infections or gum infections, etc.  

There are folks on this group who have used interferon  some other 
experimental drugs.  I have not though when my Tucson has had a couple of bouts 
with really low white blood cell counts, my vet gave her some shots of immuno 
regulin.  Tucson could never handle more invasive sorts of treatments--its just 
her personality.  I give them all some decent food, they're all inside cats  
other than the occasional tussles among each other, they lead a pretty stress 
free life!  

-Original Message-
From: Julie Dalesio Gladnick juliegladn...@gmail.com
Sent: May 31, 2010 10:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] needing support

Hi there-

I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some feedback.
I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister.  At 7 weeks, I had
them tested for FeLV.  The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
negative.  Is that even possible?  They have been living together for 7
weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point?  I am taking them
both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the IFA and she can be
vaccinated.  I am absolutely devastated.   I am in love with both of these
kitties and am looking for some hope.  My boy kitty is active and playful,
though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little less.  I'm
totally freaked out.  I am keeping the two apart, which is also killing me,
because they are such a comfort for each other.  Does anyone know what my
odds are for his second test being negative?  Is is weird that she's
negative?  If he is positive, do I have to keep them apart forever?  If we
have a baby and he is positive, do we have to get rid of him?  I can't even
bare thinking of all of this, as he snuggles on my tummy purring while I
type.  Any advice, support, guidance is sincerely appreciated.

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2010-05-31 Thread Chris
There is no rhyme or reason for who fights the virus off  who doesn't...  
Don't assume she'll automatically become positive.  My youngest 2 cats were 
with my Tucson as kittens before I knew she was positive.  They were kittens 
from the street  though not in horrendous shape, they hadn't eaten the best of 
food  had the best of lives when they were out there.  They shared litter 
boxes, ate out of each other's dishes, groomed each other, etc  neither caught 
the virus.  Its not as easily transmitted as some of the literature 
says--though clearly, a kitten is much more vulnurable.  

Basically, FELV is not an automatic death sentence.  I've had 2 who proved 
that.  But again, any infection can take kittens...  

-Original Message-
From: Julie Dalesio Gladnick juliegladn...@gmail.com
Sent: May 31, 2010 11:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

Thank you so much, Kathi- I'm needing as much support as I can get.  I love
these two more than anything and can't stand thinking about them in pain.
Yes, they have been playing and grooming each other for 7 weeks; I'm hoping
that the test was faulty, because if not, it sounds like Maggie will soon be
infected, as well.  I can't stand waiting, yet that's all I seem to be able
to do right now.  I have them separated currently, as well, which both they
and me are hating.  Thanks again for your support.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Kathi Clark kathi_cl...@hotmail.comwrote:


 Julie,



 I, too, freaked out when I found out my new kitty was positive.  She lives
 in a my household with 4 other cats and as far as I know, none of the others
 have been infected.  I do get each one of them (except for the + one) FeLV
 boosted every year.  She's now 4 years old and is a fun, playful cat with no
 signs of sickness.  You need to just try to relax because you may not have
 that much need for concern.  If you get the girl vaccinated and then boosted
 every year, they may be able to live together for the rest of their lives.
  His second test could be negative.  She may be negative because there
 wasn't that much physical contact between the two?  Mine, that is FeLV
 positive, played intensely with one of my young boy kitties and he tested
 positive; however, I kept them separated and 6 weeks later, he tested
 negative and, as far as I know, he is still negative.  This was 4 years ago
 and my healthy ones show no signs of disease.  Good luck and try not to get
 too upset.  Just relax and enjoy them.



 Kathi

  Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:26:55 -0700
  From: juliegladn...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] needing support
 
  Hi there-
 
  I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some
 feedback.
  I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister. At 7 weeks, I had
  them tested for FeLV. The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
  negative. Is that even possible? They have been living together for 7
  weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point? I am taking them
  both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the IFA and she can be
  vaccinated. I am absolutely devastated. I am in love with both of these
  kitties and am looking for some hope. My boy kitty is active and playful,
  though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little less.
 I'm
  totally freaked out. I am keeping the two apart, which is also killing
 me,
  because they are such a comfort for each other. Does anyone know what my
  odds are for his second test being negative? Is is weird that she's
  negative? If he is positive, do I have to keep them apart forever? If we
  have a baby and he is positive, do we have to get rid of him? I can't
 even
  bare thinking of all of this, as he snuggles on my tummy purring while I
  type. Any advice, support, guidance is sincerely appreciated.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-05-31 Thread Julie Dalesio Gladnick
Hi Chris,

Again, thank you for your support and experience.  I had cats all my life
growing up, and this is my first experience with FELV, so I am certainly
still learning.  I certainly am waiting (and praying) for the IFA tomorrow.
He's a tough little guy and I have to keep believing in him.  Do you think I
should keep the kittens away from each other?  I feel like they hate it;
they have been together every day since this morning.  I'm not sure one day
will change all of the exposure they've already had with each other, but I'm
still afraid of risking her getting infected.  Thanks again; Wish I had
found the group 3 days ago!

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Chris ti...@mindspring.com wrote:

 You are definitely in the right place!  You'll get lots of good ideas
 here...  As someone owned by 3 FELV -  1 FELV+ cat, I can understand how
 frightening this all is.  My Tucson is 8 + years old  I've had her since
 she's a kitten. I never seperated them  no one has turned pos in all these
 years.  My Tucson had a neg Elissa (snap) test when she was a kitten  had
 pos 4 years later--go figure!  I had one other cat, Romeo, who I took in
 after feeding him as a stray for a couple of years.  He was the oldest cat 
 lived w. me for several years, healthy  happy--sadly he succumbed to
 lymphoma last fall.

 You might want to wait a bit for the IFA--its always possible he fights the
 virus off.  As for risk to humans, there is absolutely none.  FELV is a
 virus that suppresses cat's immune system--pos cats don't ever die from the
 virus but they are much more prone to succumb to any sort of infections or
 some forms of cancer.  W. kittens, the riskiest things are upper respiratory
 or urine tract infections or gum infections, etc.

 There are folks on this group who have used interferon  some other
 experimental drugs.  I have not though when my Tucson has had a couple of
 bouts with really low white blood cell counts, my vet gave her some shots of
 immuno regulin.  Tucson could never handle more invasive sorts of
 treatments--its just her personality.  I give them all some decent food,
 they're all inside cats  other than the occasional tussles among each
 other, they lead a pretty stress free life!

 -Original Message-
 From: Julie Dalesio Gladnick juliegladn...@gmail.com
 Sent: May 31, 2010 10:26 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] needing support
 
 Hi there-
 
 I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some
 feedback.
 I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister.  At 7 weeks, I had
 them tested for FeLV.  The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
 negative.  Is that even possible?  They have been living together for 7
 weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point?  I am taking them
 both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the IFA and she can be
 vaccinated.  I am absolutely devastated.   I am in love with both of these
 kitties and am looking for some hope.  My boy kitty is active and playful,
 though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little less.
  I'm
 totally freaked out.  I am keeping the two apart, which is also killing
 me,
 because they are such a comfort for each other.  Does anyone know what my
 odds are for his second test being negative?  Is is weird that she's
 negative?  If he is positive, do I have to keep them apart forever?  If we
 have a baby and he is positive, do we have to get rid of him?  I can't
 even
 bare thinking of all of this, as he snuggles on my tummy purring while I
 type.  Any advice, support, guidance is sincerely appreciated.
 
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2010-05-31 Thread Tad Burnett

Hi Julie
 You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story to tell...
Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux kittens.. Boy 
was pos
and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them and the vet 
advised that

she surely she had been exposed and she might be one of the few that have a
strong natural immunity or else she wouldgo pos at some time later... Anyway
she got vaccinated but not separated
 The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I remember 
thinking
how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and passed on 
leaving her
As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening after only 
a month...
Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some emergenct 
treatment

but she died while still at the vets in the middle of the morning
 The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things that can 
take a cat
early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During his life I got 
hms several

other pos kitties and most of the he out lived too...
  There is also a good chance that the 1st test is a false pos... Do 
get that 2nd test

and we will all hope for the best...
  If it were me I would let the stay together... Keep them happy and no 
stress...
Feed them a good quality food and have a vet that approves of keeping a 
pos kitty
and will give you an appointment in very short time if you think 
something is wrong..

They may have a weak immune system and need antibiotics quickly...
  FeLV+ kitties seem to know that you are taking special care of them 
and are extra

loving in return

Tad


Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:


Hi there-

I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some feedback.
I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister.  At 7 weeks, I had
them tested for FeLV.  The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
negative.  Is that even possible?  They have been living together for 7
weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point?  I am taking them
both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the IFA and she can be
vaccinated.  I am absolutely devastated.   I am in love with both of these
kitties and am looking for some hope.  My boy kitty is active and playful,
though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little less.  I'm
totally freaked out.  I am keeping the two apart, which is also killing me,
because they are such a comfort for each other.  Does anyone know what my
odds are for his second test being negative?  Is is weird that she's
negative?  If he is positive, do I have to keep them apart forever?  If we
have a baby and he is positive, do we have to get rid of him?  I can't even
bare thinking of all of this, as he snuggles on my tummy purring while I
type.  Any advice, support, guidance is sincerely appreciated.

 



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2010-05-31 Thread Julie Dalesio Gladnick
Hi Tad-

Thank you so much for your supportive words.  I am so sorry to hear about
your girl kitty, but it certainly does bring some perspective and reality.
I think I will take your advice and let them be together at least until the
second test; they are so much happier.  I guess my hesitancy is that I don't
think I could deal if they both were positive.  Then again, I never imagined
dealing with either of them facing this.  Do anyone have any info on
pregnant woman or babies and FeLV cats?  I've obviously read that they
should not be together, but does anyone have actual experience?  I've been
finding that a lot of info online tends to be pretty negative.

Thanks again, I feel truly grateful.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.netwrote:

 Hi Julie
  You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story to tell...
 Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux kittens.. Boy was
 pos
 and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them and the vet advised
 that
 she surely she had been exposed and she might be one of the few that have a
 strong natural immunity or else she wouldgo pos at some time later...
 Anyway
 she got vaccinated but not separated
  The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I remember
 thinking
 how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and passed on leaving
 her
 As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening after only a
 month...
 Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some emergenct
 treatment
 but she died while still at the vets in the middle of the morning
  The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things that can
 take a cat
 early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During his life I got hms
 several
 other pos kitties and most of the he out lived too...
  There is also a good chance that the 1st test is a false pos... Do get
 that 2nd test
 and we will all hope for the best...
  If it were me I would let the stay together... Keep them happy and no
 stress...
 Feed them a good quality food and have a vet that approves of keeping a pos
 kitty
 and will give you an appointment in very short time if you think something
 is wrong..
 They may have a weak immune system and need antibiotics quickly...
  FeLV+ kitties seem to know that you are taking special care of them and
 are extra
 loving in return

 Tad



 Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:

  Hi there-

 I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some
 feedback.
 I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister.  At 7 weeks, I had
 them tested for FeLV.  The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
 negative.  Is that even possible?  They have been living together for 7
 weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point?  I am taking them
 both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the IFA and she can be
 vaccinated.  I am absolutely devastated.   I am in love with both of these
 kitties and am looking for some hope.  My boy kitty is active and playful,
 though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little less.
  I'm
 totally freaked out.  I am keeping the two apart, which is also killing
 me,
 because they are such a comfort for each other.  Does anyone know what my
 odds are for his second test being negative?  Is is weird that she's
 negative?  If he is positive, do I have to keep them apart forever?  If we
 have a baby and he is positive, do we have to get rid of him?  I can't
 even
 bare thinking of all of this, as he snuggles on my tummy purring while I
 type.  Any advice, support, guidance is sincerely appreciated.




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2010-05-31 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Julie, you've gotten some great advice here already, but just one more thing
I don't think anyone has mentioned at length: your boy is asymptomatic now,
and that's great. But as has been mentioned, he is more liable to pick up
opportunistic infections and the like, and they may be likely to hit him
harder than they would a negative cat. Since stress and poor nutrition make
basically every living thing more vulnerable, the best thing you can do for
him is get him the best foods and the most stress-free circumstances you
can, and that comes back to the issue of separating them. I don't think that
is at all the way to go, since they are so fond of each other that
separating them would be a major stressor for him. I think that separating
them now won't keep her from getting infected -- I think if she were going
to, the time they've spent together already would have made it happen. 

Good luck with your babies, and wishes that they both stay healthy
indefiinitely.

Diane

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Gladnick
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

Hi Tad-

Thank you so much for your supportive words.  I am so sorry to hear about
your girl kitty, but it certainly does bring some perspective and reality.
I think I will take your advice and let them be together at least until the
second test; they are so much happier.  I guess my hesitancy is that I don't
think I could deal if they both were positive.  Then again, I never imagined
dealing with either of them facing this.  Do anyone have any info on
pregnant woman or babies and FeLV cats?  I've obviously read that they
should not be together, but does anyone have actual experience?  I've been
finding that a lot of info online tends to be pretty negative.

Thanks again, I feel truly grateful.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Tad Burnett
tadburn...@vermontel.netwrote:

 Hi Julie
  You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story to
tell...
 Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux kittens.. 
 Boy was pos and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them 
 and the vet advised that she surely she had been exposed and she might 
 be one of the few that have a strong natural immunity or else she 
 wouldgo pos at some time later...
 Anyway
 she got vaccinated but not separated
  The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I remember 
 thinking how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and 
 passed on leaving her
 As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening after 
 only a month...
 Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some 
 emergenct treatment but she died while still at the vets in the middle 
 of the morning
  The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things that 
 can take a cat early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During 
 his life I got hms several other pos kitties and most of the he out 
 lived too...
  There is also a good chance that the 1st test is a false pos... Do 
 get that 2nd test and we will all hope for the best...
  If it were me I would let the stay together... Keep them happy and no 
 stress...
 Feed them a good quality food and have a vet that approves of keeping 
 a pos kitty and will give you an appointment in very short time if you 
 think something is wrong..
 They may have a weak immune system and need antibiotics quickly...
  FeLV+ kitties seem to know that you are taking special care of them 
 and are extra loving in return

 Tad



 Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:

  Hi there-

 I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some 
 feedback.
 I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister.  At 7 weeks, I 
 had them tested for FeLV.  The boy kitty is positive but the girl 
 kitty is negative.  Is that even possible?  They have been living 
 together for 7 weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this 
 point?  I am taking them both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the
IFA and she can be
 vaccinated.  I am absolutely devastated.   I am in love with both of
these
 kitties and am looking for some hope.  My boy kitty is active and 
 playful, though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little
less.
  I'm
 totally freaked out.  I am keeping the two apart, which is also 
 killing me, because they are such a comfort for each other.  Does 
 anyone know what my odds are for his second test being negative?  Is 
 is weird that she's negative?  If he is positive, do I have to keep 
 them apart forever?  If we have a baby and he is positive, do we have 
 to get rid of him?  I can't even bare thinking of all of this, as he 
 snuggles on my tummy purring while I type.  Any advice, support, 
 guidance is sincerely appreciated.




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Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-05-31 Thread Tad Burnett
There is a disease that pregnant women can get from the litter box 
cleaning...
It is very rare and I think you have to stick your fingers in your mouth 
after

handling litter in order to get it...
I don't think it has anything to do with FeLV
It can cause brain damage to the fetus if you should get it and that is why
some doctors make such a big deal about it But if you wash your hands
after cleaning litter box or wear gloves or even better get daddy to do 
litter

duty than it is almost impossible that you will get it
Tad


Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:


Hi Tad-

Thank you so much for your supportive words.  I am so sorry to hear about
your girl kitty, but it certainly does bring some perspective and reality.
I think I will take your advice and let them be together at least until the
second test; they are so much happier.  I guess my hesitancy is that I don't
think I could deal if they both were positive.  Then again, I never imagined
dealing with either of them facing this.  Do anyone have any info on
pregnant woman or babies and FeLV cats?  I've obviously read that they
should not be together, but does anyone have actual experience?  I've been
finding that a lot of info online tends to be pretty negative.

Thanks again, I feel truly grateful.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.netwrote:

 


Hi Julie
You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story to tell...
Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux kittens.. Boy was
pos
and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them and the vet advised
that
she surely she had been exposed and she might be one of the few that have a
strong natural immunity or else she wouldgo pos at some time later...
Anyway
she got vaccinated but not separated
The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I remember
thinking
how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and passed on leaving
her
As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening after only a
month...
Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some emergenct
treatment
but she died while still at the vets in the middle of the morning
The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things that can
take a cat
early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During his life I got hms
several
other pos kitties and most of the he out lived too...
There is also a good chance that the 1st test is a false pos... Do get
that 2nd test
and we will all hope for the best...
If it were me I would let the stay together... Keep them happy and no
stress...
Feed them a good quality food and have a vet that approves of keeping a pos
kitty
and will give you an appointment in very short time if you think something
is wrong..
They may have a weak immune system and need antibiotics quickly...
FeLV+ kitties seem to know that you are taking special care of them and
are extra
loving in return

Tad



Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:

Hi there-
   


I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some
feedback.
I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister.  At 7 weeks, I had
them tested for FeLV.  The boy kitty is positive but the girl kitty is
negative.  Is that even possible?  They have been living together for 7
weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this point?  I am taking them
both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with the IFA and she can be
vaccinated.  I am absolutely devastated.   I am in love with both of these
kitties and am looking for some hope.  My boy kitty is active and playful,
though he has had a little diarrhea today and is eating a little less.
I'm
totally freaked out.  I am keeping the two apart, which is also killing
me,
because they are such a comfort for each other.  Does anyone know what my
odds are for his second test being negative?  Is is weird that she's
negative?  If he is positive, do I have to keep them apart forever?  If we
have a baby and he is positive, do we have to get rid of him?  I can't
even
bare thinking of all of this, as he snuggles on my tummy purring while I
type.  Any advice, support, guidance is sincerely appreciated.



 


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Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

2010-05-31 Thread Julie Dalesio Gladnick
Hi Diane-

Thank you for your note.  I definitely agree to letting my kitties be
together makes them the happiest.  Of course, I am still praying that his
first test was a false positive, but if not, will hope that Maggie has built
some immunity and I can keep them both happy and loved as Iong as I can.  I
will certainly keep you all posted as to the results from his next test
later this week.  He is being tested tomorrow, so I hopefully won't have to
wait too much longer.  Thank you again for your care.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.comwrote:

 Julie, you've gotten some great advice here already, but just one more
 thing
 I don't think anyone has mentioned at length: your boy is asymptomatic now,
 and that's great. But as has been mentioned, he is more liable to pick up
 opportunistic infections and the like, and they may be likely to hit him
 harder than they would a negative cat. Since stress and poor nutrition make
 basically every living thing more vulnerable, the best thing you can do for
 him is get him the best foods and the most stress-free circumstances you
 can, and that comes back to the issue of separating them. I don't think
 that
 is at all the way to go, since they are so fond of each other that
 separating them would be a major stressor for him. I think that separating
 them now won't keep her from getting infected -- I think if she were going
 to, the time they've spent together already would have made it happen.

 Good luck with your babies, and wishes that they both stay healthy
 indefiinitely.

 Diane

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Julie Dalesio
 Gladnick
 Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:02 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] needing support

 Hi Tad-

 Thank you so much for your supportive words.  I am so sorry to hear about
 your girl kitty, but it certainly does bring some perspective and reality.
 I think I will take your advice and let them be together at least until the
 second test; they are so much happier.  I guess my hesitancy is that I
 don't
 think I could deal if they both were positive.  Then again, I never
 imagined
 dealing with either of them facing this.  Do anyone have any info on
 pregnant woman or babies and FeLV cats?  I've obviously read that they
 should not be together, but does anyone have actual experience?  I've been
 finding that a lot of info online tends to be pretty negative.

 Thanks again, I feel truly grateful.

 On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Tad Burnett
 tadburn...@vermontel.netwrote:

  Hi Julie
   You have come to the right place... We all have a similar story to
 tell...
  Your story is exactly like mine.. Two black and white tux kittens..
  Boy was pos and girl was neg... I didn't have room to separate them
  and the vet advised that she surely she had been exposed and she might
  be one of the few that have a strong natural immunity or else she
  wouldgo pos at some time later...
  Anyway
  she got vaccinated but not separated
   The 2 were very close and played together all the time.. I remember
  thinking how sad it was going to be when the pos one got sick and
  passed on leaving her
  As fate would have it the neg one stopped eating one evening after
  only a month...
  Took her to the vet 1st thing in the morning and she got some
  emergenct treatment but she died while still at the vets in the middle
  of the morning
   The vet said it was FIP... The point is there are many things that
  can take a cat early... My pos boy lived on for seven years... During
  his life I got hms several other pos kitties and most of the he out
  lived too...
   There is also a good chance that the 1st test is a false pos... Do
  get that 2nd test and we will all hope for the best...
   If it were me I would let the stay together... Keep them happy and no
  stress...
  Feed them a good quality food and have a vet that approves of keeping
  a pos kitty and will give you an appointment in very short time if you
  think something is wrong..
  They may have a weak immune system and need antibiotics quickly...
   FeLV+ kitties seem to know that you are taking special care of them
  and are extra loving in return
 
  Tad
 
 
 
  Julie Dalesio Gladnick wrote:
 
   Hi there-
 
  I don't know if this is the right place, but I am hoping for some
  feedback.
  I recently adopted two kittens, a brother and sister.  At 7 weeks, I
  had them tested for FeLV.  The boy kitty is positive but the girl
  kitty is negative.  Is that even possible?  They have been living
  together for 7 weeks; wouldn't she be positive if he was at this
  point?  I am taking them both in tomorrow so he can be re-tested with
 the
 IFA and she can be
  vaccinated.  I am absolutely devastated.   I am in love with both of
 these
  kitties and am looking for some hope.  My boy kitty is active and
  playful, though he has