Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-09-02 Thread dlgegg
I could use the links/recipe for my pride.  Right now they get dry duck 
alternated with canned and the mice,moles, voles and srews they catch outside.  
They very seldom get a bird because theya are too fast for them.  I have a 
neighbor who raises rabbits for food and I could get one from him.  I tried 
one, but just gave it to them and they backed off from it.  I think it was 
bigger than they are and that bothered them.  Found one recipe that said use 
ground meat, bones, organs, the whole animal.  Yes or no?  I have noticed that 
when they catch a mouse, or mole, they never eat the organs.  Any reason why?

 Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: 
 The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself,
 using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if
 you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could
 otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best
 commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even
 though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's
 about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35
 cents/day/cat.  You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they
 won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours
 before you even notice it.
 
 A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry
 food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding
 ferals, one of yours may do the same.
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when
  people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral
  feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
  We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food
  to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our
  area.
  The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can
  provide you with info on resources.
 
  Beth
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  *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
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  *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
  *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I
  get it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks,
  Dot
 
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  *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
  *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in
  Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You
  could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.
 
  Beth
 
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/
 
 
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  *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
  *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price
  of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not
  TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.
   (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much
  money on them each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad
  situation for me.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-09-02 Thread dlgegg
Dot, I can relate to your cost situation, I don't have ferals, but 7 
indoor/outdoor cats of my own and it does get pricey.  Half were feral, rest 
were given up by owners and the sucker culd not turn them away.  I aerage 
$100.00 per month on food and litter (Worlds Best because it is corn based and 
not clay).  I like Worlds Best because it is lighter weight, last longer and 
can be composted.  Good luck in your search for food.


 dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get 
 it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot



 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

 
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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  






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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread dot winkler
Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get it 
at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot



 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

 
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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  






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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale/OK/WED REPLY OK

2012-08-29 Thread dot winkler


Yes, o.k. Natalie -that is stupendously wonderful.  Thank you so much.  When 
you get time.  Wow. 80 cats!  Where do you take care of these 80 cats?  Dotty.  
 I copied your e-mail also for future.  


 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale/OK
 

Not for now – I will use what you wrote – and copy you, OK?  Will do it after I 
take care of our 80 cats (inside), and a few special needs with meds and fluids.
Natalie
If you want to contact me directly, please use my new address (am slowly easing 
out of my old one).
My new email address is:    atia@gmail.com
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale/OK
 
Hi.  That would be great Natalie.  They can use this e-mail.  My home number is 
732 780 5530 and cell is 732 610 2098.  The surgery date is not yet set as I 
have been putting it off due to the cats which I can't just abandon.  I go to 
doc tonight for possible shot of cortisone to get me through another 3 or 4 
months painfree.  The surgery is arthroscopy for calcific tendinitis and the 
recovery is very difficult and painful.  I went through it 5 years ago with the 
other arm.  thanks so much - you guys are great , Dotty     Any other info?  
 



From:Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale
 
Dot,
I have access to a large nationwide Animal SOS Alert group – I could put your 
plea out there.  There are an amazing number of animal-caring people in NJ who 
either belong to rescue groups or work on their own..There’s bound to be 
someone in that area.
Just give me the word, and I will do it (I am in CT). 
Your e-mail address will be the contact. 
How about your telephone number?  And the date starting with the need for 
someone to do the feeding (your surgery)?
Natalie
 
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale
 
Hi  Lorrie - The cats are in the Farmingdale area, NJ.  I live in neighboring 
town, Freehold, NJ.  Please, please if there is anyone in this group who live 
near this area, please contact me.  It would be such a wonderful thing.  Dotty
 



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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/QUESTION

2012-08-29 Thread dot winkler
mailmail pg - Hi.  Reading your email, how do you get the free food.  I still 
don't quite understand.  You also vet them as you said.  Please explain.  Are 
they ferals that you have trapped and kept indoors?  Or do you mean that you 
trap them, neuter and release and vet them when necessary?  Sorry - I did not 
understand and am trying to learn some things so that I can help my 7 outdoor 
cats.  dotty



 From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

The cats get free food, shelter and the best care we can provide cats that have 
to be trapped to be vetted.  I can provide worming and some other things 
without touching them but they are cautiousas they should be.  It has kept 
them alive for a long time and allowed them to have a good life ... not the 
life I would like for them but the life they are born to.  If they are going to 
eat and enjoy the protection we can give them, they make the trip to the vet.  
Some have managed to avoid trapping for really long times but I do insist and, 
eventually, they make that trip.

We don't have a lot of money either so I do understand.  Right now there are 6 
ferals plus those who wander by and go on.  We don't belong to a program 
either.  We just believe this is something we need to do.  Otherwise there 
would be zillions of cats/kittens here and finding homes is almost impossible.  
I have always had house cats who were feral at one time and consider them the 
smartest of cats but they are all very independent...even those that came in 
when they were very little kittens.  Unfortunately, most people want cats who 
are lap cats or less independent or whatever and don't want to spend the time 
necessary with ferals.  

  

On Aug 28, 2012, at 3:21 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  




 From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight
 

Dozens of years re feeding.  We trap, s/n and release.  That is the price of 
free food.  I would not feel right about abandoning my wild friends.  When I 
moved to care for my mother, I got neighbors to take care of the one feral at 
that house.  I visited when I could and furnished the food.  We have fed 
ferals at Mom's for as long as I can remember.  And calling a shelter will 
probably result in the death of most of the cats you have been caring for.  

On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - 
I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat 
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and 
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the 
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the 
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility 
would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I 
also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, 
how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this 
cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I 
can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks




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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?
 

I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other 
conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it 
for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we 
lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from 
the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein 
content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded 
that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his 
sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous 
fluid, no cancer.
I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten 
 
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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/FREE FOOD

2012-08-29 Thread dot winkler
MailMail pg - ok  I read further your e-mail.  That is  a good idea - I'll 
visit Petco where I buy my indoor cats food.  And see if they can donate any 
torn or damaged bags.  Anything in particular i should tell them about what i 
am doing or why that would help them want to give me free food? 

I also was watching the tv show Extreme Couponing.  One woman bought boxes 
and boxes of cat food at the supermarket for free with her coupons - it is 
science they have down pat.  Dotty



 From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Or expired food.  It is still good.

On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:31 PM, GRAS wrote:

You can always go to a large pet supply store and ask if they have any 
torn/damaged bags of dry food – most will gladly donate them.
 
That’s right, chip in is a GRRREAT idea, Beth!
Go to www.chipin.com – you’d be surprised what people collect money for, a 
party, a present for someone, and serious stuff!
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.
 
Beth
 
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From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  
 



 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Beth
Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people 
donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. 
Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.

We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to 
people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area.
The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide 
you with info on resources.

 
Beth

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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 

Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get it 
at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot



 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

 
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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  






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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself,
using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if
you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could
otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best
commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even
though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's
about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35
cents/day/cat.  You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they
won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours
before you even notice it.

A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry
food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding
ferals, one of yours may do the same.


On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when
 people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral
 feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
 We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food
 to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our
 area.
 The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can
 provide you with info on resources.

 Beth
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 *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

 Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I
 get it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks,
 Dot

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 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in
 Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You
 could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.

 Beth

 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/


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 *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price
 of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not
 TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.
  (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much
 money on them each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad
 situation for me.

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Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread GRAS
Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the 
winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze.  Dry food should never be the ONLY 
food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK.  Unfortunately, many people feed 
only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats 
because of what they put into it.

 

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

 

The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using 
balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). 
  I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could 
otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best 
commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though 
Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's about 70 
cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat.  You'll 
also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as susceptible to 
urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you even notice it.

 

A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry 
food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding ferals, 
one of yours may do the same.

 

 

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people 
donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. 
Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.

We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to 
people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area.

The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide 
you with info on resources.

 
Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 

 

 

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From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

 

Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get it 
at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot

 

  _  

From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.

 

Beth

 

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 

 

 

  _  

From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  

 

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Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

 

If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 

 

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

 


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ 

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread MaiMaiPG
On that note, talk to some of the small groceries and or meat shops.   
I get a lot of quick sale meat...still very good...for my guys.  I got  
a pound and a half + of sirloin tip for $2 today.  That will make 8  
meals for the two inside cats + 4 meals for the dog.  I add green  
beans and other things to the dog's diet but not so much the cats and  
vary their food frequently.  I just had geriatric blood work done on  
all three even though they aren't that old and the results were  
wonderful.  And they all have very clean teeth.  This beats even cheap  
canned food and I know what they are eating.

On Aug 29, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote:

The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up  
myself, using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my  
own recipe, if you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying  
about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying  
about half the amount of the best commercial canned food out there  
(currently Merrick Before Grain, even though Merrick has had some  
complaints about their dog food).   That's about 70 cents/day/cat,  
and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat.  You'll  
also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as  
susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours  
before you even notice it.


A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse  
the dry food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know  
you're feeding ferals, one of yours may do the same.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so  
when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers  
or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes  
not.
We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which  
provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2  
organizations like that in our area.
The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that  
can provide you with info on resources.


Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org


From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how  
do I get it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an  
organization.  thanks, Dot


From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several  
in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at  
cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org


From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the  
price of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the  
cats?  I do not TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone  
self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are all neutered except 2 by someone  
else) I have spent so much money on them each week.  Money I don't  
have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.





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If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to  
save their life.  Contact your local pound for information.


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their  
life, and to free up cage space.



Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake  
by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/


Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread dlgegg
Ok, I goofed.  My guys are on dry blue buffalo duck.  How do I break the 
adiction?  


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the 
 winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze.  Dry food should never be the ONLY 
 food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK.  Unfortunately, many people feed 
 only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats 
 because of what they put into it.
 
  
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  
 
 The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, 
 using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if 
 you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could 
 otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best 
 commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though 
 Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's about 70 
 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat.  
 You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as 
 susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you 
 even notice it.
 
  
 
 A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry 
 food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding ferals, 
 one of yours may do the same.
 
  
 
  
 
 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people 
 donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. 
 Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
 
 We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to 
 people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area.
 
 The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide 
 you with info on resources.
 
  
 Beth
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  
 
 Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get 
 it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  
 
 Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
 Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
 could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.
 
  
 
 Beth
 
  
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  
 
 Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
 free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
 don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they 
 are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them 
 each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  
 
  
 
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 Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!
 
  
 
 If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their 
 life.  Contact your local pound for information. 
 
  
 
 If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
 free up cage space.
 
  
 
 
 Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
 implementing the No Kill Equation: 
 http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ 
 http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ 
 
 Here's

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
If they won't go cold turkey, start adding small amounts of the food you
want them to eat, gradually increasing it and decreasing the amounts of the
food you don't want them to eat.   You'll end up by crumbling the dry food
onto the full portion of the new food, and then you can test if you can
stop that, too.


On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Ok, I goofed.  My guys are on dry blue buffalo duck.  How do I break the
 adiction?


  GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
  Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in
 the winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze.  Dry food should never be the
 ONLY food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK.  Unfortunately, many
 people feed only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely
 addictive to cats because of what they put into it.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
 
 
  The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself,
 using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if
 you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could
 otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best
 commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even
 though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's
 about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35
 cents/day/cat.  You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they
 won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours
 before you even notice it.
 
 
 
  A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the
 dry food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding
 ferals, one of yours may do the same.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when
 people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral
 feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
 
  We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides
 food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in
 our area.
 
  The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can
 provide you with info on resources.
 
 
  Beth
 
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/
 
 
 
 
 
 
_
 
  From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
 
 
  Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I
 get it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks,
 Dot
 
 
 
_
 
  From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
 
 
  Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in
 Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You
 could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.
 
 
 
  Beth
 
 
 
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/
 
 
 
 
 
 
_
 
  From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
 
 
  Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price
 of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not
 TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.
  (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much
 money on them each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad
 situation for me.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Natalie
Here's some great info on cats: http://www.catinfo.org/ 

Do your cats not like canned food?
Have you ever tried?
I would prepare a dish with 1/2 the normal amount of dry food and next to it 
some canned food.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

Ok, I goofed.  My guys are on dry blue buffalo duck.  How do I break the 
adiction?  


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the 
 winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze.  Dry food should never be the ONLY 
 food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK.  Unfortunately, many people feed 
 only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats 
 because of what they put into it.
 
  
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  
 
 The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, 
 using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if 
 you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could 
 otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best 
 commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though 
 Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's about 70 
 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat.  
 You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as 
 susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you 
 even notice it.
 
  
 
 A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry 
 food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding ferals, 
 one of yours may do the same.
 
  
 
  
 
 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people 
 donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. 
 Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
 
 We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to 
 people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area.
 
 The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide 
 you with info on resources.
 
  
 Beth
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  
 
 Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get 
 it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  
 
 Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
 Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
 could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.
 
  
 
 Beth
 
  
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  
 
 Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
 free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
 don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they 
 are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them 
 each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  
 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-28 Thread Lorrie
Heather, you and your bf are wonderful to care for so many cats. I
thought I had a lot to care for, but you're amazing.  Thank you for
caring.

Lorrie
 
On 08-27, Heather wrote:
Hi,
 
My bf and I feed around 140 cats in 20+ spots (colonies) each day.
Unless they are adoptable and you find homes, or work with a rescue to
find homes, their only option is basically death (which is what will
most likely happen if taken to a shelter).  Sadly so many very
adoptable cats are euthanized due to the lack of homes each day.   I
have been doing this 8 years now...it really is a lifetime commitment
(as far as the cats' lifetime goes, anyway), unless you find someone
else willing to get involved or take over.  Unless the cats are
friendly/adoptable, I would caution you not to raise any attention to
them such as the media...if unadoptable the best thing that you can do
is ensure they are spayed/neutered, vaccinated  ear tipped and tend to
any medical needs that may arise, in which case you might need help or
advise. Alley Cat Allies website is a great info resource, and also has
feral friends by area, they might be able to put you in touch with
someone if there is anyone in your area who has registered as
a contact.   There is also a great Feral Cats yahoo group where you can
get a lot of great input.
 
Ensuring they are all spayed/neutered is the most important part here,
or there will be more cats with the same plight.

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-28 Thread Beth
Do you have any local animal rescue web talk boards? I helped a lady out who 
posted about needing a feeder for her feral colony over Christmas. Also check 
with local rescues. Most of them all ready have colonies they feed or have 
volunteers who feed colonies. They can sub
I've had my outside ferals for years. If I moved I would have to trap  
re-locate them. I'm not leaving them.

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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight
 

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - 
I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat 
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and 
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the 
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the 
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility 
would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I 
also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, 
how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this 
cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I 
can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks


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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/REPLY FROM DOTTY

2012-08-28 Thread dot winkler
Thanks all for your tips.  There are at least 4 FRIENDLYs in the group of 7.  
So I feel those are adoptable.  I have yet to find anyone to help feed.  Alley 
cats send me a list.  I have to go through it one by one. have a few more 
contacts from another organization.  No bites yet.  Just one saying  i can 
mayb swing by once in a while, et etc)  No real committments.  It is all so 
very time consuming.  And in the meantime, doc appointmets, work and I am 
feeling very, very stressed at this point and overwhelmed.  I'll re-read all of 
the mail you all sent with your advice and try to follow some of the tips.  
Dotty



 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: FeLV Talk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight
 

Do you have any local animal rescue web talk boards? I helped a lady out who 
posted about needing a feeder for her feral colony over Christmas. Also check 
with local rescues. Most of them all ready have colonies they feed or have 
volunteers who feed colonies. They can sub
I've had my outside ferals for years. If I moved I would have to trap  
re-locate them. I'm not leaving them.

Beth

 
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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight
 

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - 
I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat 
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and 
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the 
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the 
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility 
would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I 
also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, 
how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this 
cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I 
can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks






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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

2012-08-28 Thread dot winkler
Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  



 From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight
 

Dozens of years re feeding.  We trap, s/n and release.  That is the price of 
free food.  I would not feel right about abandoning my wild friends.  When I 
moved to care for my mother, I got neighbors to take care of the one feral at 
that house.  I visited when I could and furnished the food.  We have fed ferals 
at Mom's for as long as I can remember.  And calling a shelter will probably 
result in the death of most of the cats you have been caring for.  

On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - 
I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat 
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and 
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the 
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the 
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility 
would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I 
also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, 
how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this 
cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I 
can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks




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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?
 

I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other 
conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it 
for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we 
lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from 
the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein 
content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded 
that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his 
sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous 
fluid, no cancer.
I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten 
 
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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?
 

My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell me 
it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV?

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale

2012-08-28 Thread dot winkler
Hi  Lorrie - The cats are in the Farmingdale area, NJ.  I live in neighboring 
town, Freehold, NJ.  Please, please if there is anyone in this group who live 
near this area, please contact me.  It would be such a wonderful thing.  Dotty



 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight
 
Please do NOT involve animal control.  Shelters everywhere are FULL and
these cats will be euthanized.  Are any of them socialized (tame) or are
they feral?  Ferals are not adoptable. I've been feeding and TNR a colony of
feral cats for 10 years now.  They count on you for food. Where are you
located. Perhaps some of the people in this group can pitch in and help
while you recover.


On 08-27, dot winkler wrote:
    Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went
    thru - I didn't see any replies.
    I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray)
    cat feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
    I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6
    weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one
    else to feed the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and
    maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps
    some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they got
    the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I also could try to help in
    the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, how long have people
    been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this cannot go on
    forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I can't
    find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/REPLY FROM DOTTY

2012-08-28 Thread Susan Hoffman
Where are you located?  perhaps we can help search for some resources in your 
area.




From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/REPLY FROM DOTTY


Thanks all for your tips.  There are at least 4 FRIENDLYs in the group of 7.  
So I feel those are adoptable.  I have yet to find anyone to help feed.  Alley 
cats send me a list.  I have to go through it one by one. have a few more 
contacts from another organization.  No bites yet.  Just one saying  i can 
mayb swing by once in a while, et etc)  No real committments.  It is all so 
very time consuming.  And in the meantime, doc appointmets, work and I am 
feeling very, very stressed at this point and overwhelmed.  I'll re-read all of 
the mail you all sent with your advice and try to follow some of the tips.  
Dotty



From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: FeLV Talk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight


Do you have any local animal rescue web talk boards? I helped a lady out who 
posted about needing a feeder for her feral colony over Christmas. Also check 
with local rescues. Most of them all ready have colonies they feed or have 
volunteers who feed colonies. They can sub
I've had my outside ferals for years. If I moved I would have to trap  
re-locate them. I'm not leaving them.

Beth


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From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight


Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - 
I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat 
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and 
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the 
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the 
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility 
would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I 
also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, 
how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this 
cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I 
can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks






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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale

2012-08-28 Thread Natalie
Dot,

I have access to a large nationwide Animal SOS Alert group - I could put
your plea out there.  There are an amazing number of animal-caring people in
NJ who either belong to rescue groups or work on their own..There's bound to
be someone in that area.

Just give me the word, and I will do it (I am in CT). 

Your e-mail address will be the contact. 

How about your telephone number?  And the date starting with the need for
someone to do the feeding (your surgery)?

Natalie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale

 

Hi  Lorrie - The cats are in the Farmingdale area, NJ.  I live in
neighboring town, Freehold, NJ.  Please, please if there is anyone in this
group who live near this area, please contact me.  It would be such a
wonderful thing.  Dotty

 

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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight


Please do NOT involve animal control.  Shelters everywhere are FULL and
these cats will be euthanized.  Are any of them socialized (tame) or are
they feral?  Ferals are not adoptable. I've been feeding and TNR a colony of
feral cats for 10 years now.  They count on you for food. Where are you
located. Perhaps some of the people in this group can pitch in and help
while you recover.


On 08-27, dot winkler wrote:
Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went
thru - I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray)
cat feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6
weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one
else to feed the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and
maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps
some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they got
the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I also could try to help in
the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, how long have people
been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this cannot go on
forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I can't
find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale/OK

2012-08-28 Thread dot winkler
Hi.  That would be great Natalie.  They can use this e-mail.  My home number is 
732 780 5530 and cell is 732 610 2098.  The surgery date is not yet set as I 
have been putting it off due to the cats which I can't just abandon.  I go to 
doc tonight for possible shot of cortisone to get me through another 3 or 4 
months painfree.  The surgery is arthroscopy for calcific tendinitis and the 
recovery is very difficult and painful.  I went through it 5 years ago with the 
other arm.  thanks so much - you guys are great , Dotty     Any other info?  



 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale
 

Dot,
I have access to a large nationwide Animal SOS Alert group – I could put your 
plea out there.  There are an amazing number of animal-caring people in NJ who 
either belong to rescue groups or work on their own..There’s bound to be 
someone in that area.
Just give me the word, and I will do it (I am in CT). 
Your e-mail address will be the contact. 
How about your telephone number?  And the date starting with the need for 
someone to do the feeding (your surgery)?
Natalie
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale
 
Hi  Lorrie - The cats are in the Farmingdale area, NJ.  I live in neighboring 
town, Freehold, NJ.  Please, please if there is anyone in this group who live 
near this area, please contact me.  It would be such a wonderful thing.  Dotty
 



From:Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

Please do NOT involve animal control.  Shelters everywhere are FULL and
these cats will be euthanized.  Are any of them socialized (tame) or are
they feral?  Ferals are not adoptable. I've been feeding and TNR a colony of
feral cats for 10 years now.  They count on you for food. Where are you
located. Perhaps some of the people in this group can pitch in and help
while you recover.


On 08-27, dot winkler wrote:
    Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went
    thru - I didn't see any replies.
    I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray)
    cat feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
    I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6
    weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one
    else to feed the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and
    maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps
    some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they got
    the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I also could try to help in
    the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, how long have people
    been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this cannot go on
    forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I can't
    find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

2012-08-28 Thread Beth
Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

 
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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  


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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale/OK

2012-08-28 Thread Natalie
Not for now – I will use what you wrote – and copy you, OK?  Will do it after I 
take care of our 80 cats (inside), and a few special needs with meds and fluids.

Natalie

If you want to contact me directly, please use my new address (am slowly easing 
out of my old one).

My new email address is:atia@gmail.com

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale/OK

 

Hi.  That would be great Natalie.  They can use this e-mail.  My home number is 
732 780 5530 and cell is 732 610 2098.  The surgery date is not yet set as I 
have been putting it off due to the cats which I can't just abandon.  I go to 
doc tonight for possible shot of cortisone to get me through another 3 or 4 
months painfree.  The surgery is arthroscopy for calcific tendinitis and the 
recovery is very difficult and painful.  I went through it 5 years ago with the 
other arm.  thanks so much - you guys are great , Dotty Any other info?  

 

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From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale

 

Dot,

I have access to a large nationwide Animal SOS Alert group – I could put your 
plea out there.  There are an amazing number of animal-caring people in NJ who 
either belong to rescue groups or work on their own..There’s bound to be 
someone in that area.

Just give me the word, and I will do it (I am in CT). 

Your e-mail address will be the contact. 

How about your telephone number?  And the date starting with the need for 
someone to do the feeding (your surgery)?

Natalie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/farmingdale

 

Hi  Lorrie - The cats are in the Farmingdale area, NJ.  I live in neighboring 
town, Freehold, NJ.  Please, please if there is anyone in this group who live 
near this area, please contact me.  It would be such a wonderful thing.  Dotty

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

2012-08-28 Thread GRAS
You can always go to a large pet supply store and ask if they have any
torn/damaged bags of dry food - most will gladly donate them.

 

That's right, chip in is a GRRREAT idea, Beth!

Go to www.chipin.com - you'd be surprised what people collect money for, a
party, a present for someone, and serious stuff!

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.

 

Beth

 

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http://www.furkids.org/ 

 

 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.
I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they
are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on
them each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation
for me.  

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-28 Thread MaiMaiPG

Wonder about checking with local vets re people who do the same thing?
On Aug 28, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Beth wrote:

Do you have any local animal rescue web talk boards? I helped a lady  
out who posted about needing a feeder for her feral colony over  
Christmas. Also check with local rescues. Most of them all ready  
have colonies they feed or have volunteers who feed colonies. They  
can sub
I've had my outside ferals for years. If I moved I would have to  
trap  re-locate them. I'm not leaving them.


Beth

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From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it  
went thru - I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor  
(stray) cat feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6  
weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one  
else to feed the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and  
maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps  
some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they  
got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I also could try to  
help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, how long  
have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this  
cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with  
it, if I can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.   
Thanks





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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

2012-08-28 Thread MaiMaiPG
The cats get free food, shelter and the best care we can provide cats  
that have to be trapped to be vetted.  I can provide worming and some  
other things without touching them but they are cautiousas they  
should be.  It has kept them alive for a long time and allowed them to  
have a good life ... not the life I would like for them but the life  
they are born to.  If they are going to eat and enjoy the protection  
we can give them, they make the trip to the vet.  Some have managed to  
avoid trapping for really long times but I do insist and, eventually,  
they make that trip.


We don't have a lot of money either so I do understand.  Right now  
there are 6 ferals plus those who wander by and go on.  We don't  
belong to a program either.  We just believe this is something we need  
to do.  Otherwise there would be zillions of cats/kittens here and  
finding homes is almost impossible.  I have always had house cats who  
were feral at one time and consider them the smartest of cats but they  
are all very independent...even those that came in when they were very  
little kittens.  Unfortunately, most people want cats who are lap cats  
or less independent or whatever and don't want to spend the time  
necessary with ferals.



On Aug 28, 2012, at 3:21 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the  
price of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the  
cats?  I do not TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone  
self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are all neutered except 2 by someone  
else) I have spent so much money on them each week.  Money I don't  
have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.


From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

Dozens of years re feeding.  We trap, s/n and release.  That is the  
price of free food.  I would not feel right about abandoning my wild  
friends.  When I moved to care for my mother, I got neighbors to  
take care of the one feral at that house.  I visited when I could  
and furnished the food.  We have fed ferals at Mom's for as long as  
I can remember.  And calling a shelter will probably result in the  
death of most of the cats you have been caring for.

On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it  
went thru - I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor  
(stray) cat feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half  
now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6  
weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no- 
one else to feed the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters  
and maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight.   
Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and  
if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I also could  
try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is,  
how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am  
thinking this cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help  
me out with it, if I can't find adoptions?  Any input on this,  
would be great.  Thanks


From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other  
conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and  
analyze it for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and  
earlier this year we lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart.  
When they extracted fluid from the first one it was clear but the  
analysis confirmed the high protein content. So dx was FIP, later  
on vet found a large mass growing so concluded that he had  
pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his  
sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow  
viscous fluid, no cancer.

I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten

http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going  
to tell me it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to  
FeLV?


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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

2012-08-28 Thread MaiMaiPG

Or expired food.  It is still good.
On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:31 PM, GRAS wrote:

You can always go to a large pet supply store and ask if they have  
any torn/damaged bags of dry food – most will gladly donate them.


That’s right, chip in is a GRRREAT idea, Beth!
Go to www.chipin.com – you’d be surprised what people collect money  
for, a party, a present for someone, and serious stuff!
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
] On Behalf Of Beth

Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several  
in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at  
cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

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From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the  
price of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the  
cats?  I do not TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone  
self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are all neutered except 2 by someone  
else) I have spent so much money on them each week.  Money I don't  
have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.




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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread dot winkler
Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - 
I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat 
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and 
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the 
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the 
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility 
would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I 
also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, 
how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this 
cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I 
can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks



 From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?
 

I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other conditions. 
Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it for protein 
content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we lost two 
kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from the first 
one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein content. So dx was 
FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded that he had 
pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his sister also got 
a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous fluid, no cancer.
I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten 
 
http://homelessnomore.webs.com/



 From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?
 

My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell me 
it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV?

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread MaiMaiPG
Dozens of years re feeding.  We trap, s/n and release.  That is the  
price of free food.  I would not feel right about abandoning my wild  
friends.  When I moved to care for my mother, I got neighbors to take  
care of the one feral at that house.  I visited when I could and  
furnished the food.  We have fed ferals at Mom's for as long as I can  
remember.  And calling a shelter will probably result in the death of  
most of the cats you have been caring for.

On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it  
went thru - I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor  
(stray) cat feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6  
weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one  
else to feed the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and  
maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps  
some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they  
got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I also could try to  
help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, how long  
have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this  
cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with  
it, if I can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.   
Thanks


From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other  
conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and  
analyze it for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and  
earlier this year we lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart.  
When they extracted fluid from the first one it was clear but the  
analysis confirmed the high protein content. So dx was FIP, later on  
vet found a large mass growing so concluded that he had pancreatic  
cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his sister also got  
a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous fluid, no  
cancer.

I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten

http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going  
to tell me it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to  
FeLV?


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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread Christiane Biagi
Does your local shelter have any TNR programs or maybe can connect you with
other feeders?

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

 

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru
- I didn't see any replies.

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.

I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a
facility would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the
newspaper.  I also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my
other question is, how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I
am thinking this cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me
out with it, if I can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.
Thanks

 

  _  

From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 

I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other
conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it
for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we
lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from
the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein
content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded
that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his
sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous
fluid, no cancer.
I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten 

 

 http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

 

  _  

From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 

My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell
me it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV?


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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
All too true.  When I had a house fire in 2007 and moved I packed up my yard 
cats and brought them along.  I still have two of them.  One is 11 years old, 
absolutely untouchable, and she was my first TNR cat.
 
Once you start feeding they learn to depend on you.  You can't just walk away 
and leave them.
 
Where are you located?  There must be other feral feeders or TNR groups in your 
area.  Perhaps we can help you find them and you could get some relief while 
you heal up.  (Are the cats you've been feeding all spayed and neutered?)
 
Please do NOT involve your local animal control agency.  They very well might 
round up the cats and kill them.  If you want to get those cats homes then take 
in one or two of the tame ones in at a time and foster until a home is found.
 
 



From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight


Dozens of years re feeding.  We trap, s/n and release.  That is the price of 
free food.  I would not feel right about abandoning my wild friends.  When I 
moved to care for my mother, I got neighbors to take care of the one feral at 
that house.  I visited when I could and furnished the food.  We have fed ferals 
at Mom's for as long as I can remember.  And calling a shelter will probably 
result in the death of most of the cats you have been caring for.  

On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, dot winkler wrote:

Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - 
I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat 
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and 
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the 
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the 
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility 
would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I 
also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, 
how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this 
cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I 
can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks




From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?


I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other 
conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it 
for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we 
lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from 
the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein 
content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded 
that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his 
sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous 
fluid, no cancer.
I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten 

http://homelessnomore.webs.com/



From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?


My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell me 
it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV?

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread GRAS
There must be someone who could take over feeding them - especially with
colder weather coming (don't know where you are)..they cannot be left
without food after relying on it for so long.

 

I have never liked TNR because there were never any people to take
responsibility.  Since I do rescue and care for many at home, I could not
add the responsibility of caring for outside cats, too - there's just not
enough time and energy.

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

 

All too true.  When I had a house fire in 2007 and moved I packed up my yard
cats and brought them along.  I still have two of them.  One is 11 years
old, absolutely untouchable, and she was my first TNR cat.

 

Once you start feeding they learn to depend on you.  You can't just walk
away and leave them.

 

Where are you located?  There must be other feral feeders or TNR groups in
your area.  Perhaps we can help you find them and you could get some relief
while you heal up.  (Are the cats you've been feeding all spayed and
neutered?)

 

Please do NOT involve your local animal control agency.  They very well
might round up the cats and kill them.  If you want to get those cats homes
then take in one or two of the tame ones in at a time and foster until a
home is found.

 

 

 

From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

 

Dozens of years re feeding.  We trap, s/n and release.  That is the price of
free food.  I would not feel right about abandoning my wild friends.  When I
moved to care for my mother, I got neighbors to take care of the one feral
at that house.  I visited when I could and furnished the food.  We have fed
ferals at Mom's for as long as I can remember.  And calling a shelter will
probably result in the death of most of the cats you have been caring for.  

On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, dot winkler wrote:





Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru
- I didn't see any replies.

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat
feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.

I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and
will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed the
cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the
newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a
facility would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the
newspaper.  I also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my
other question is, how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I
am thinking this cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me
out with it, if I can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.
Thanks

 

From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 

I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other
conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it
for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we
lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from
the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein
content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded
that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his
sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous
fluid, no cancer.
I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten 

 

 http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

 

From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 

My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell
me it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV?


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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread Lorrie
Please do NOT involve animal control.  Shelters everywhere are FULL and
these cats will be euthanized.  Are any of them socialized (tame) or are
they feral?  Ferals are not adoptable. I've been feeding and TNR a colony of
feral cats for 10 years now.  They count on you for food. Where are you
located. Perhaps some of the people in this group can pitch in and help
while you recover.


On 08-27, dot winkler wrote:
Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went
thru - I didn't see any replies.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray)
cat feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6
weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one
else to feed the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and
maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps
some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they got
the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I also could try to help in
the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, how long have people
been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this cannot go on
forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I can't
find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread Maureen Olvey

I agree about not calling AC if at all possible.  In many counties/cities it is 
illegal to feed outdoor cats and it could be that animal control will come pick 
them up.  Like she just said, feral cats are not adoptable anyway and AC has no 
time or people to work with them to try and tame them (which usually isn't 
possible anyway) so they would be killed right away.  AC wouldn't have a choice 
but to kill them because they can't have cage space taken up indefinitely by 
animals that will not ever be adopted and can't even be handled. I've been 
feeding for 11 years.  My very first feral just died a few weeks ago of renal 
lymphoma.  I'm not sure of her age but I'd been feeding her for 11 years, so 
depending on the situation sometimes it can go on forever.  Course I've lost 
some to coyotes, the highway, etc. after just a couple years.  Anyway, the few 
times I've been on vacation I bought a huge self feeder for dogs, like the 
Petmate things that hold almost a whole bag of food, and left that and it will 
last for several days or a week if raccoons and other animals aren't around to 
help eat it.  You could do that and try to find someone to check on them and 
refill the feeder every few days.  If you have the funds you could pay a pet 
sitter to do it.  They would just have to go out every 3 days or so.  Another 
thing I would suggest is calling all the local humane societies to see if they 
have a volunteer that does TNR.  Just call the rescues, not Animal Control.  
You would be surprised at how many people there are that feed ferals.  There's 
probably someone in your area doing it that you just don't know.  One other 
thing is to contact the national group called Alley Cat Allies.  They have a 
network called Feral Friends.  They can tell you if there is anyone in your 
area that you can contact to help with the ferals for that six weeks you can't 
drive.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
  Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:33:22 -0400
 From: felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight
 
 Please do NOT involve animal control.  Shelters everywhere are FULL and
 these cats will be euthanized.  Are any of them socialized (tame) or are
 they feral?  Ferals are not adoptable. I've been feeding and TNR a colony of
 feral cats for 10 years now.  They count on you for food. Where are you
 located. Perhaps some of the people in this group can pitch in and help
 while you recover.
 
 
 On 08-27, dot winkler wrote:
 Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went
 thru - I didn't see any replies.
 I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray)
 cat feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
 I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6
 weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one
 else to feed the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and
 maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps
 some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they got
 the proper exposure from the newspaper.  I also could try to help in
 the adoption process.  ALSO, my other question is, how long have people
 been feeding their outdoor cats?  I am thinking this cannot go on
 forever.  Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I can't
 find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.  Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread Heather
Hi,

My bf and I feed around 140 cats in 20+ spots (colonies) each day.  Unless
they are adoptable and you find homes, or work with a rescue to find homes,
their only option is basically death (which is what will most likely happen
if taken to a shelter).  Sadly so many very adoptable cats are euthanized
due to the lack of homes each day.   I have been doing this 8 years
now...it really is a lifetime commitment (as far as the cats' lifetime
goes, anyway), unless you find someone else willing to get involved or take
over.  Unless the cats are friendly/adoptable, I would caution you not to
raise any attention to them such as the media...if unadoptable the best
thing that you can do is ensure they are spayed/neutered, vaccinated  ear
tipped and tend to any medical needs that may arise, in which case you
might need help or advise. Alley Cat Allies website is a great info
resource, and also has feral friends by area, they might be able to put
you in touch with someone if there is anyone in your area who has
registered as a contact.   There is also a great Feral Cats yahoo group
where you can get a lot of great input.

Ensuring they are all spayed/neutered is the most important part here, or
there will be more cats with the same plight.

  I hope you can find someone to assist during your recovery, and that your
surgery goes well--thank you for caring for these cats!  If you can't find
anyone to help feed, you could certainly try contacting rescue groups to
see if anyone nearby can help while you are recovering.

Heather
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:02 PM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went
 thru - I didn't see any replies.
 I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat
 feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
 I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks
 and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed
 the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously
 the newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a
 facility would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the
 newspaper.  I also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my
 other question is, how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I
 am thinking this cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me
 out with it, if I can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.
  Thanks

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 *From:* Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other
 conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze
 it for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this
 year we lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted
 fluid from the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high
 protein content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so
 concluded that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was
 greenish_his sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical;
 yellow viscous fluid, no cancer.
 I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten

 http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

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 *From:* Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com
 *To:* Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
 *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell
 me it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV?

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