Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-09-02 Thread dlgegg
I could use the links/recipe for my pride.  Right now they get dry duck 
alternated with canned and the mice,moles, voles and srews they catch outside.  
They very seldom get a bird because theya are too fast for them.  I have a 
neighbor who raises rabbits for food and I could get one from him.  I tried 
one, but just gave it to them and they backed off from it.  I think it was 
bigger than they are and that bothered them.  Found one recipe that said use 
ground meat, bones, organs, the whole animal.  Yes or no?  I have noticed that 
when they catch a mouse, or mole, they never eat the organs.  Any reason why?

 Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: 
 The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself,
 using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if
 you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could
 otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best
 commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even
 though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's
 about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35
 cents/day/cat.  You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they
 won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours
 before you even notice it.
 
 A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry
 food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding
 ferals, one of yours may do the same.
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when
  people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral
  feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
  We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food
  to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our
  area.
  The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can
  provide you with info on resources.
 
  Beth
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/
 
 
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  *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
  *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I
  get it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks,
  Dot
 
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  *From:* Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
  *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in
  Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You
  could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.
 
  Beth
 
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/
 
 
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  *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
  *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price
  of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not
  TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.
   (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much
  money on them each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad
  situation for me.
 
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 If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their
 life.  Contact your local pound for information.
 http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm
 
 If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
 to free up cage space.
 
 
 Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
 implementing the No Kill Equation:
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-09-02 Thread dlgegg
Dot, I can relate to your cost situation, I don't have ferals, but 7 
indoor/outdoor cats of my own and it does get pricey.  Half were feral, rest 
were given up by owners and the sucker culd not turn them away.  I aerage 
$100.00 per month on food and litter (Worlds Best because it is corn based and 
not clay).  I like Worlds Best because it is lighter weight, last longer and 
can be composted.  Good luck in your search for food.


 dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get 
 it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot



 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

 
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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  






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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread dot winkler
Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get it 
at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot



 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  






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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Beth
Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people 
donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. 
Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.

We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to 
people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area.
The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide 
you with info on resources.

 
Beth

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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 

Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get it 
at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot



 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  






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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself,
using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if
you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could
otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best
commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even
though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's
about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35
cents/day/cat.  You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they
won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours
before you even notice it.

A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry
food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding
ferals, one of yours may do the same.


On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when
 people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral
 feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
 We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food
 to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our
 area.
 The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can
 provide you with info on resources.

 Beth
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/


   --
 *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

 Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I
 get it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks,
 Dot

   --
 *From:* Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in
 Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You
 could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.

 Beth

 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/


   --
 *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price
 of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not
 TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.
  (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much
 money on them each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad
 situation for me.

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If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread GRAS
Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the 
winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze.  Dry food should never be the ONLY 
food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK.  Unfortunately, many people feed 
only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats 
because of what they put into it.

 

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

 

The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using 
balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). 
  I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could 
otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best 
commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though 
Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's about 70 
cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat.  You'll 
also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as susceptible to 
urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you even notice it.

 

A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry 
food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding ferals, 
one of yours may do the same.

 

 

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people 
donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. 
Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.

We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to 
people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area.

The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide 
you with info on resources.

 
Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 

 

 

  _  

From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

 

Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get it 
at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot

 

  _  

From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.

 

Beth

 

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 

 

 

  _  

From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

 

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are 
all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each 
week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  

 

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If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 

 

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

 


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ 

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread MaiMaiPG
On that note, talk to some of the small groceries and or meat shops.   
I get a lot of quick sale meat...still very good...for my guys.  I got  
a pound and a half + of sirloin tip for $2 today.  That will make 8  
meals for the two inside cats + 4 meals for the dog.  I add green  
beans and other things to the dog's diet but not so much the cats and  
vary their food frequently.  I just had geriatric blood work done on  
all three even though they aren't that old and the results were  
wonderful.  And they all have very clean teeth.  This beats even cheap  
canned food and I know what they are eating.

On Aug 29, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote:

The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up  
myself, using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my  
own recipe, if you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying  
about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying  
about half the amount of the best commercial canned food out there  
(currently Merrick Before Grain, even though Merrick has had some  
complaints about their dog food).   That's about 70 cents/day/cat,  
and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat.  You'll  
also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as  
susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours  
before you even notice it.


A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse  
the dry food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know  
you're feeding ferals, one of yours may do the same.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so  
when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers  
or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes  
not.
We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which  
provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2  
organizations like that in our area.
The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that  
can provide you with info on resources.


Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org


From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how  
do I get it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an  
organization.  thanks, Dot


From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several  
in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at  
cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.


Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org


From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?

Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the  
price of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the  
cats?  I do not TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone  
self feeding the 7 cats.  (they are all neutered except 2 by someone  
else) I have spent so much money on them each week.  Money I don't  
have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.





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If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to  
save their life.  Contact your local pound for information.


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their  
life, and to free up cage space.



Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake  
by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/


Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread dlgegg
Ok, I goofed.  My guys are on dry blue buffalo duck.  How do I break the 
adiction?  


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the 
 winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze.  Dry food should never be the ONLY 
 food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK.  Unfortunately, many people feed 
 only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats 
 because of what they put into it.
 
  
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  
 
 The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, 
 using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if 
 you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could 
 otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best 
 commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though 
 Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's about 70 
 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat.  
 You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as 
 susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you 
 even notice it.
 
  
 
 A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry 
 food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding ferals, 
 one of yours may do the same.
 
  
 
  
 
 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people 
 donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. 
 Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
 
 We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to 
 people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area.
 
 The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide 
 you with info on resources.
 
  
 Beth
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  
 
 Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get 
 it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  
 
 Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
 Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
 could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.
 
  
 
 Beth
 
  
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  
 
 Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
 free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
 don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they 
 are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them 
 each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  
 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
If they won't go cold turkey, start adding small amounts of the food you
want them to eat, gradually increasing it and decreasing the amounts of the
food you don't want them to eat.   You'll end up by crumbling the dry food
onto the full portion of the new food, and then you can test if you can
stop that, too.


On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Ok, I goofed.  My guys are on dry blue buffalo duck.  How do I break the
 adiction?


  GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
  Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in
 the winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze.  Dry food should never be the
 ONLY food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK.  Unfortunately, many
 people feed only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely
 addictive to cats because of what they put into it.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
 
 
  The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself,
 using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if
 you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could
 otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best
 commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even
 though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's
 about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35
 cents/day/cat.  You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they
 won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours
 before you even notice it.
 
 
 
  A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the
 dry food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding
 ferals, one of yours may do the same.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when
 people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral
 feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
 
  We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides
 food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in
 our area.
 
  The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can
 provide you with info on resources.
 
 
  Beth
 
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/
 
 
 
 
 
 
_
 
  From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
 
 
  Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I
 get it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks,
 Dot
 
 
 
_
 
  From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
 
 
  Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in
 Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You
 could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.
 
 
 
  Beth
 
 
 
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/
 
 
 
 
 
 
_
 
  From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
 
 
  Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price
 of free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not
 TNR.  I don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.
  (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much
 money on them each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad
 situation for me.
 
 
 
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  If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save
 their life.  Contact your local pound

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Natalie
Here's some great info on cats: http://www.catinfo.org/ 

Do your cats not like canned food?
Have you ever tried?
I would prepare a dish with 1/2 the normal amount of dry food and next to it 
some canned food.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

Ok, I goofed.  My guys are on dry blue buffalo duck.  How do I break the 
adiction?  


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the 
 winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze.  Dry food should never be the ONLY 
 food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK.  Unfortunately, many people feed 
 only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats 
 because of what they put into it.
 
  
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  
 
 The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, 
 using balanced recipes online  (I can send you links and my own recipe, if 
 you like).   I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could 
 otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best 
 commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though 
 Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food).   That's about 70 
 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat.  
 You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as 
 susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you 
 even notice it.
 
  
 
 A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food.  (I refuse the dry 
 food, as it's so bad for cats.)   If you let them know you're feeding ferals, 
 one of yours may do the same.
 
  
 
  
 
 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people 
 donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. 
 Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not.
 
 We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to 
 people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area.
 
 The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide 
 you with info on resources.
 
  
 Beth
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
 
  
 
 Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food?  Or how do I get 
 it at cost?  I work alone and don't belong to an organization.  thanks, Dot
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  
 
 Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in 
 Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You 
 could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food.
 
  
 
 Beth
 
  
 
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ 
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?
 
  
 
 Hi  I was reading your mail.  What did you mean about that is the price of 
 free food?  Do you receive food free for feeding the cats?  I do not TNR.  I 
 don't belong to any program.  Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats.  (they 
 are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them 
 each week.  Money I don't have.  It is getting to be a bad situation for me.  
 
  
 
   _  
 
  
 
  
 
 
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