Re: Autumn and Diarrhea

2007-11-05 Thread Lance
Hi Susan,

You should talk to your vet's office to see what they think, but I don't
think you need to rush
Autumn in right away. Having dealt with diarrhea with Ember, my first
course of action would
be to rest her from food for a day or two, if possible. Make sure she
has plenty of water, of course.
After the short break, I would increase portions until normal over a few
days. If you don't want to 
give her time off of food, then you might at least take her off the hard
food for the time being, 
and then slowly reintroduce it over a week or so. You might also try
giving her some pumpkin. 
I think a teaspoon of pumpkin mixed in with wet food is what I did for
Ember when she had
bad diarrhea.

Keep in mind that this is what *I* would do. Your vet may have a better
idea of what's
best for little Autumn. I hope she starts feeling better soon. 

Lance


On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:37:47 -0600, Susan Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Hey All,
 
Autumn is doing really well overall. She's been feeling so good in
fact
 that she's been trying to steal human food. She's tried to do this as
 long
 as we've had her. The only difference is that she's now bigger and
 sneakier.
 On Friday night she got into a plate and ate some pizza crust with a
 little
 sauce on it. She also ate part of a cooling banana bread loaf on
 Saturday.
 When I set the loaf out she was playing happily in another room - when I
 turned around she was munching away~_~ The problem is that she's
 developed
 diarrhea. She has no other symptoms. We try hard to keep her out of
 people
 food, but if you turn your back for a second she gets into your plate.
 Should I get her in to see a vet ASAP or just wait and see?  I understand
 that sometimes people food upsets their stomachs. I have a soft food for
 cats with intestinal troubles. Should I take away her hard food and give
 her
 the I/D formula? She's also had terrible kitty gas.
 
 Thanks,
 ~Susan A
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  Lance Linimon
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RE: Autumn and Diarrhea

2007-11-05 Thread Caroline Kaufmann

OH MY GOD!  This is such a similar experience to what my beloved, and late, 
Monkee did, I just had to reply!  He too got into a homemade cooling loaf of 
banana nut bread I had left out on the stove top (which he knew he wasn't 
allowed on)!!  I had put a paper towel over top of it and he totally raided it! 
 When I found it, he had shredded the paper towel and there were kitty nail 
marks and teeth marks all on the bread!  It was so funny!  Also, about the same 
time, I had left a soy cheese pizza out on the counter, cooling, with a paper 
towel on top and he raided that too!  He shredded everything again, but the 
funniest part was that his white muzzle got stained orange from the pizza sauce 
(from him sticking his face in it no doubt)!  He tried to act like he didn't do 
anything wrong, but the evidence was all over his face!  I was mad at him, but 
it was so funny and he looked too cute that I took pictures of his orange face 
with my camera phone and sent them to everyone with the title Pizza-faced 
Monkee!  He was the best and I miss him soso entertaining.  
 
Cherish these moments, even if they are semi-annoying!  
 
I did talk to my vet about Monkee's food raiding when it happened because he 
had never done it to that extent before.  At the time, we were trying to get 
him to lose some weight so he was on S/D light dry only.  The vet recc'd adding 
wet food as the new theory was that cats feel like they have eaten more if 
they get some wet food.  Now, this is in contrast to a previous theory that 
cats get filled up more on a primarily dry food diet.  I'm sure this could be 
debated on end and different vets will be on a current, different theory at any 
given time, so, you have to take it with a grain of salt and just try different 
things and use your own judgment/let YOUR cat tell you what's best in the end.  
I did start adding S/D wet to try to satiate Monkee more, but I don't know if 
it worked because I also stopped leaving things out on the counter so his food 
raiding did cease anyway!  
 
I also think that when they are having diarrhea and you can pin-point the cause 
(human food raiding), it's good to give their gut a rest and hold off on the 
dry food.  If you have I/D, I would personally feed that to get her through the 
hump.  Also, with the caveat that I AM NOT A VET and you certainly don't need 
to follow my advice, but when I had kittens with diarrhea that wasn't caused by 
a known source, to help calm their systems down, the vet said to give them 
Liquid Imodium- which I did and they were fine.  I can't remember the dose 
though.  But it's not a full cc- when in doubt, I always go with 1 cc per pound 
of body weight, or maybe even less than that.  In situations like this, you can 
always put a call into your vet and ask what they think about the food-raiding 
behavior and/or if you can give Imodium/how much, etc.  
I hope this helps,
Caroline 


Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:37:47 -0600From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Autumn and DiarrheaHey All,   Autumn is doing really well overall. She's been 
feeling so good in fact that she's been trying to steal human food. She's tried 
to do this as long as we've had her. The only difference is that she's now 
bigger and sneakier. On Friday night she got into a plate and ate some pizza 
crust with a little sauce on it. She also ate part of a cooling banana bread 
loaf on Saturday. When I set the loaf out she was playing happily in another 
room - when I turned around she was munching away~_~ The problem is that she's 
developed diarrhea. She has no other symptoms. We try hard to keep her out of 
people food, but if you turn your back for a second she gets into your plate.  
Should I get her in to see a vet ASAP or just wait and see?  I understand that 
sometimes people food upsets their stomachs. I have a soft food for cats with 
intestinal troubles. Should I take away her hard food and give her the I/D 
formula? She's also had terrible kitty gas. Thanks,~Susan A
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RE: Autumn and Diarrhea

2007-11-05 Thread Caroline Kaufmann

I think people on this site have also recc'd- for general diarrhea- in the past 
to boil a chicken and give them the chicken broth.  I have never been able to 
try it yet though, as I am a vegetarian, thus, I'm not chicken boiler!  But 
it's something else to try to keep her satiated, dehydrated and keep her 
electrolytes going.
Good luck.
Caroline  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: 
Re: Autumn and Diarrhea Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:23:14 -0600  Hi Susan,  
You should talk to your vet's office to see what they think, but I don't think 
you need to rush Autumn in right away. Having dealt with diarrhea with Ember, 
my first course of action would be to rest her from food for a day or two, if 
possible. Make sure she has plenty of water, of course. After the short 
break, I would increase portions until normal over a few days. If you don't 
want to  give her time off of food, then you might at least take her off the 
hard food for the time being,  and then slowly reintroduce it over a week or 
so. You might also try giving her some pumpkin.  I think a teaspoon of 
pumpkin mixed in with wet food is what I did for Ember when she had bad 
diarrhea.  Keep in mind that this is what *I* would do. Your vet may have a 
better idea of what's best for little Autumn. I hope she starts feeling 
better soon.   Lance   On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:37:47 -0600, Susan Ang 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  Hey All,Autumn is doing really well 
overall. She's been feeling so good in  fact  that she's been trying to 
steal human food. She's tried to do this as  long  as we've had her. The 
only difference is that she's now bigger and  sneakier.  On Friday night 
she got into a plate and ate some pizza crust with a  little  sauce on it. 
She also ate part of a cooling banana bread loaf on  Saturday.  When I set 
the loaf out she was playing happily in another room - when I  turned around 
she was munching away~_~ The problem is that she's  developed  diarrhea. 
She has no other symptoms. We try hard to keep her out of  people  food, 
but if you turn your back for a second she gets into your plate.  Should I 
get her in to see a vet ASAP or just wait and see? I understand  that 
sometimes people food upsets their stomachs. I have a soft food for  cats 
with intestinal troubles. Should I take away her hard food and give  her  
the I/D formula? She's also had terrible kitty gas.Thanks,  ~Susan A 
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