Re: Isabella update

2008-02-22 Thread laurieskatz
thanks! we sure hope so!
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update 


  As long as she's doing well she could be around for quite a while.  My 
positive is 9 years old now and still doing fine.
  tonya

  laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, Isabella's blood work came back mostly good. Her white blood count is 
below normal~ around where it was last summer. That was disappointing. 
Her FELV test from yesterday came back positive (this is her third positive 
test). Disappointing but not surprising.
Her vet is having us stop giving the pain med and wants to reduce the pred 
if things go well with discontinuing the tramadal.
All in all her vet is pleased with her current health and appearance.
Laurie
  - 



Re: Isabella update

2008-02-21 Thread catatonya
As long as she's doing well she could be around for quite a while.  My positive 
is 9 years old now and still doing fine.
  tonya

laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, Isabella's blood work came back mostly good. Her white blood 
count is below normal~ around where it was last summer. That was disappointing. 
  Her FELV test from yesterday came back positive (this is her third positive 
test). Disappointing but not surprising.
  Her vet is having us stop giving the pain med and wants to reduce the pred if 
things go well with discontinuing the tramadal.
  All in all her vet is pleased with her current health and appearance.
  Laurie
- 



Re: Isabella update

2008-02-08 Thread Jane Lyons

Considering where she was last summer Laurie, your news is hopeful.
Hoping that she has a smooth transition from the pain meds. She is a  
trooper.

Jane
On Feb 8, 2008, at 7:10 PM, laurieskatz wrote:

Well, Isabella's blood work came back mostly good. Her white blood  
count is below normal~ around where it was last summer. That was  
disappointing.
Her FELV test from yesterday came back positive (this is her third  
positive test). Disappointing but not surprising.
Her vet is having us stop giving the pain med and wants to reduce  
the pred if things go well with discontinuing the tramadal.

All in all her vet is pleased with her current health and appearance.
Laurie
-





Re: Isabella update

2008-02-08 Thread Lynne
I'm sorry the news wasn't better Laurie.  Did your vet give you a copy of 
Isabella's white blood count.  If so what was it.  BooBoo's was 9.9 today.  How 
does that compare?

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:10 PM
  Subject: Isabella update 


  Well, Isabella's blood work came back mostly good. Her white blood count is 
below normal~ around where it was last summer. That was disappointing. 
  Her FELV test from yesterday came back positive (this is her third positive 
test). Disappointing but not surprising.
  Her vet is having us stop giving the pain med and wants to reduce the pred if 
things go well with discontinuing the tramadal.
  All in all her vet is pleased with her current health and appearance.
  Laurie
- 


Re: Isabella update

2008-02-08 Thread laurieskatz
Isabella's white blood count was 3,400 - normal is 3,700-20,500. Sounds like a 
different scale than yours, Lynne. I love this vet as we stay in touch by email 
so I snet her an email this evening asking what significance this reading is. I 
am disappointed that things aren't perfect but oh my, she is so much better 
than last summer. We are so grateful for her weight gain and happy countenance! 
We had many scares and almost as many miracles with kitties in the past year. 
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update 


  I'm sorry the news wasn't better Laurie.  Did your vet give you a copy of 
Isabella's white blood count.  If so what was it.  BooBoo's was 9.9 today.  How 
does that compare?

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:10 PM
Subject: Isabella update 


Well, Isabella's blood work came back mostly good. Her white blood count is 
below normal~ around where it was last summer. That was disappointing. 
Her FELV test from yesterday came back positive (this is her third positive 
test). Disappointing but not surprising.
Her vet is having us stop giving the pain med and wants to reduce the pred 
if things go well with discontinuing the tramadal.
All in all her vet is pleased with her current health and appearance.
Laurie
  - 

Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.

2007-08-05 Thread catatonya
That's great Laurie!!!
  tonya

laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all. Isabella is improving again. She is on interferon 7 days on 
and 7 days off. We opted for transdermal prednisone (once a day) and 
transdermal tramadol (twice a day). She hates pills. She gets transfer factor 
sprinkled on her canned food. We have finally found a food she LOVES ~ it's 
Innova EVO dry. I think someone here suggested it. 
   
  Anyway, no more tremors or crying out on this regimen. Cutting the pred and 
inteferon out altogether did NOT work. I know interferon is controversial (some 
vets think it doesn't work) but since we have a seemingly magical formula FOR 
NOW, we are sticking with these 3 meds. Last vet check ~ NO temp and highest 
ever weight. 
   
  For those who don't know her, she is anemic, has an enlarged spleen and 
history of high temps, crying out in pain, joint stiffness and tremors and 
shivering/spasms (we've had her 2 months).
  Blessings,
  Laurie
   



Re: Isabella update ~ enlarged spleen not lymphoma!

2007-08-04 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
I have read somewhere that there is a neurological disease that cats  
can develop that makes them really wacky when they are touched, but I  
have no idea where I saw it or read it.  Is it called synthese;/

]'(7sia or something.  It's sensory overload.


Consciousness is Causal
 and Physicality is its
 Manifestation.


On Jul 18, 2007, at 2:46 PM, laurieskatz wrote:

Isabella has been to the specialist. Her temperature was normal and  
weight the best ever. She has continued to have tremors. She also  
has a very fast rate of breathing (70-80 BPM). A spine xray  
revealed nothing amiss. An ultrasound revealed a very enlarged  
spleen (suspects: lymphoma or red blood cell production). We got  
the asparate biopsy results and she does not have lymphoma.  She is  
on tramadal, clavamox and prednisone (we switched back from  
prednisalone because she was frothing). We are going to decrease  
the pred in case it is the cause of her tremors and or fast  
breathing (it CAN cause this in dogs). She seems happy except for  
the tremors. They almost resemble a seizure. If the pred decrease  
does not stop them, we will try an anti-seizure med. Vet has no  
idea why she cries out when we touch her or pick her up.

More as we learn more.
Laurie





Re: Isabella update ~ enlarged spleen not lymphoma!

2007-08-04 Thread Susan Dubose
Yes, I have heard of that too.

It's been awhile..

Anyone have anymore information?


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:44 AM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update ~ enlarged spleen not lymphoma!


  I have read somewhere that there is a neurological disease that cats can 
develop that makes them really wacky when they are touched, but I have no idea 
where I saw it or read it.  Is it called synthese;/
  ]'(7sia or something.  It's sensory overload.




  Consciousness is Causal 
   and Physicality is its
   Manifestation.




  On Jul 18, 2007, at 2:46 PM, laurieskatz wrote:


Isabella has been to the specialist. Her temperature was normal and weight 
the best ever. She has continued to have tremors. She also has a very fast rate 
of breathing (70-80 BPM). A spine xray revealed nothing amiss. An ultrasound 
revealed a very enlarged spleen (suspects: lymphoma or red blood cell 
production). We got the asparate biopsy results and she does not have lymphoma. 
 She is on tramadal, clavamox and prednisone (we switched back from 
prednisalone because she was frothing). We are going to decrease the pred in 
case it is the cause of her tremors and or fast breathing (it CAN cause this in 
dogs). She seems happy except for the tremors. They almost resemble a seizure. 
If the pred decrease does not stop them, we will try an anti-seizure med. Vet 
has no idea why she cries out when we touch her or pick her up.
More as we learn more.
Laurie 





Re: Isabella update ~ enlarged spleen not lymphoma!

2007-08-04 Thread laurieskatz
The vets have mentioned this. I think it's hyperesthesia or something like 
that. I had forgotten about this. Thank-you .
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan Dubose 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:15 AM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update ~ enlarged spleen not lymphoma!


  Yes, I have heard of that too.

  It's been awhile..

  Anyone have anymore information?


  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
  www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
  www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
  www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
 Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
 Purring welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
   Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Isabella update ~ enlarged spleen not lymphoma!


I have read somewhere that there is a neurological disease that cats can 
develop that makes them really wacky when they are touched, but I have no idea 
where I saw it or read it.  Is it called synthese;/ 
]'(7sia or something.  It's sensory overload. 




Consciousness is Causal 
 and Physicality is its
 Manifestation.




On Jul 18, 2007, at 2:46 PM, laurieskatz wrote:


  Isabella has been to the specialist. Her temperature was normal and 
weight the best ever. She has continued to have tremors. She also has a very 
fast rate of breathing (70-80 BPM). A spine xray revealed nothing amiss. An 
ultrasound revealed a very enlarged spleen (suspects: lymphoma or red blood 
cell production). We got the asparate biopsy results and she does not have 
lymphoma.  She is on tramadal, clavamox and prednisone (we switched back from 
prednisalone because she was frothing). We are going to decrease the pred in 
case it is the cause of her tremors and or fast breathing (it CAN cause this in 
dogs). She seems happy except for the tremors. They almost resemble a seizure. 
If the pred decrease does not stop them, we will try an anti-seizure med. Vet 
has no idea why she cries out when we touch her or pick her up.
  More as we learn more.
  Laurie 





Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.

2007-08-03 Thread glenda Goodman
Laurie,
I have been busy the last couple days, but wanted to
let you know that I have been following your posts
concerning Isabella. I am excited for her progress. I
have been feeling so sorry for her and for all, you
guys, have been going through. It is so great to hear
the good news! 
Thank you,
Glenda
--- laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Sally for this note of encouragement! We
 appreciate it ~ gives us hope!
 Laurie
   - Original Message - 
   From: Sally Davis 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:14 PM
   Subject: Re: Isabella update and what seems to be
 working for us.
 
 
   Hi Laurie, 
 
   I am so happy for you. I know you went though what
 I went through when Junior and Tiny tested positive
 for FELV last fall. I plan on going though Junior's
 medical records. He is close to the 1 year mark from
 when he became anemic. Unfortunately Tiny did not
 make it and he was asymptomatic. I believe he died
 from a blood clot to the lungs or heart. It was very
 quick.   
 
   Junior like Isabella had a very rocky road for at
 least two months maybe three months. I really was
 not sure he would make it. He ran fevers after being
 anemic, which was probably hemobartella for which he
 was treated. He then got a URI and and eye infection
 that turned into uveitis plus caused glaucoma in his
 damaged eye from a previous injury.  With little
 money I did what I could for him. The remaining
 negative cats all 9 of them were vaccinated and
 later mixed. The infections were treated as they
 came along and right from the start he was given the
 IR protocol, which cleared up some gingivitis that
 he had as well. Infections were the worst because
 they take three times as long to clear up. The cats
 doesn't eat as well. 
 
   I did not do the interferon because the vet never
 got on board. He also got Petinic in the beginning,
 lysine, CoQ10, as well as Transfer Factor Plus and
 better cat food. I sometimes had to get baby food to
 get all the supplements in him. We are now
 maintaining with, Wellness Transfer Factor, Manopol,
 and Salmon oil. Oh yes he gets the controversial
 Metacam for pain. He still has swollen Lymph nodes
 they were tested and was only his body fighting
 infection.   The glaucoma causes pain and they lymph
 node aspiration had shown inflammation as well, the
 Metacam takes care of both. He has finally gained
 weight up to almost 13 pounds up from less than 11
 at one time. He looks great and feels much better.
 It is always one day at a time, I am so happy. For
 those who do not know Junior turned 5 last spring.
 Junior and I both say thanks to this group. 
 
   Isabella is at the point where she should continue
 to do better if Junior is any example. My feeling is
 getting them past the initial infection stage in the
 first three months, gives them a better chance of
 living a few years, Junior is a blessing. JMO 
 
   Sincerely, 
 
   Sally Davis
 




   
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Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.

2007-08-02 Thread laurieskatz
Hi all. Isabella is improving again. She is on interferon 7 days on and 7 days 
off. We opted for transdermal prednisone (once a day) and transdermal tramadol 
(twice a day). She hates pills. She gets transfer factor sprinkled on her 
canned food. We have finally found a food she LOVES ~ it's Innova EVO dry. I 
think someone here suggested it. 

Anyway, no more tremors or crying out on this regimen. Cutting the pred and 
inteferon out altogether did NOT work. I know interferon is controversial (some 
vets think it doesn't work) but since we have a seemingly magical formula FOR 
NOW, we are sticking with these 3 meds. Last vet check ~ NO temp and highest 
ever weight. 

For those who don't know her, she is anemic, has an enlarged spleen and history 
of high temps, crying out in pain, joint stiffness and tremors and 
shivering/spasms (we've had her 2 months).
Blessings,
Laurie


Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.

2007-08-02 Thread laurieskatz
ps she is also, obviously, feline leukemia positive.
L


Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.

2007-08-02 Thread C J
Good to hear Isabella is doing well.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.


  Hi all. Isabella is improving again. She is on interferon 7 days on and 7 
days off. We opted for transdermal prednisone (once a day) and transdermal 
tramadol (twice a day). She hates pills. She gets transfer factor sprinkled on 
her canned food. We have finally found a food she LOVES ~ it's Innova EVO dry. 
I think someone here suggested it. 

  Anyway, no more tremors or crying out on this regimen. Cutting the pred and 
inteferon out altogether did NOT work. I know interferon is controversial (some 
vets think it doesn't work) but since we have a seemingly magical formula FOR 
NOW, we are sticking with these 3 meds. Last vet check ~ NO temp and highest 
ever weight. 

  For those who don't know her, she is anemic, has an enlarged spleen and 
history of high temps, crying out in pain, joint stiffness and tremors and 
shivering/spasms (we've had her 2 months).
  Blessings,
  Laurie



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Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.

2007-08-02 Thread laurieskatz
Thanks Sally for this note of encouragement! We appreciate it ~ gives us hope!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sally Davis 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.


  Hi Laurie, 

  I am so happy for you. I know you went though what I went through when Junior 
and Tiny tested positive for FELV last fall. I plan on going though Junior's 
medical records. He is close to the 1 year mark from when he became anemic. 
Unfortunately Tiny did not make it and he was asymptomatic. I believe he died 
from a blood clot to the lungs or heart. It was very quick.   

  Junior like Isabella had a very rocky road for at least two months maybe 
three months. I really was not sure he would make it. He ran fevers after being 
anemic, which was probably hemobartella for which he was treated. He then got a 
URI and and eye infection that turned into uveitis plus caused glaucoma in his 
damaged eye from a previous injury.  With little money I did what I could for 
him. The remaining negative cats all 9 of them were vaccinated and later mixed. 
The infections were treated as they came along and right from the start he was 
given the IR protocol, which cleared up some gingivitis that he had as well. 
Infections were the worst because they take three times as long to clear up. 
The cats doesn't eat as well. 

  I did not do the interferon because the vet never got on board. He also got 
Petinic in the beginning, lysine, CoQ10, as well as Transfer Factor Plus and 
better cat food. I sometimes had to get baby food to get all the supplements in 
him. We are now maintaining with, Wellness Transfer Factor, Manopol, and Salmon 
oil. Oh yes he gets the controversial Metacam for pain. He still has swollen 
Lymph nodes they were tested and was only his body fighting infection.   The 
glaucoma causes pain and they lymph node aspiration had shown inflammation as 
well, the Metacam takes care of both. He has finally gained weight up to almost 
13 pounds up from less than 11 at one time. He looks great and feels much 
better. It is always one day at a time, I am so happy. For those who do not 
know Junior turned 5 last spring. Junior and I both say thanks to this group. 

  Isabella is at the point where she should continue to do better if Junior is 
any example. My feeling is getting them past the initial infection stage in the 
first three months, gives them a better chance of living a few years, Junior is 
a blessing. JMO 

  Sincerely, 

  Sally Davis

   

Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.

2007-08-02 Thread Sally Davis
Hi Laurie,

I am so happy for you. I know you went though what I went through when
Junior and Tiny tested positive for FELV last fall. I plan on going though
Junior's medical records. He is close to the 1 year mark from when he became
anemic. Unfortunately Tiny did not make it and he was asymptomatic. I
believe he died from a blood clot to the lungs or heart. It was very
quick.

Junior like Isabella had a very rocky road for at least two months maybe
three months. I really was not sure he would make it. He ran fevers after
being anemic, which was probably hemobartella for which he was treated. He
then got a URI and and eye infection that turned into uveitis plus caused
glaucoma in his damaged eye from a previous injury.  With little money I did
what I could for him. The remaining negative cats all 9 of them were
vaccinated and later mixed. The infections were treated as they came along
and right from the start he was given the IR protocol, which cleared up some
gingivitis that he had as well. Infections were the worst because they take
three times as long to clear up. The cats doesn't eat as well.

I did not do the interferon because the vet never got on board. He also
got Petinic in the beginning, lysine, CoQ10, as well as Transfer Factor Plus
and better cat food. I sometimes had to get baby food to get all the
supplements in him. We are now maintaining with, Wellness Transfer Factor,
Manopol, and Salmon oil. Oh yes he gets the controversial Metacam for pain.
He still has swollen Lymph nodes they were tested and was only his body
fighting infection.   The glaucoma causes pain and they lymph node
aspiration had shown inflammation as well, the Metacam takes care of both.
He has finally gained weight up to almost 13 pounds up from less than 11 at
one time. He looks great and feels much better. It is always one day at a
time, I am so happy. For those who do not know Junior turned 5 last
spring. Junior and I both say thanks to this group.

Isabella is at the point where she should continue to do better if Junior is
any example. My feeling is getting them past the initial infection stage in
the first three months, gives them a better chance of living a few years,
Junior is a blessing. JMO

Sincerely,

Sally Davis


Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.

2007-08-02 Thread wendy
Laurie,

I'm so happy to hear that Isabella is doing great!  All your hard work in 
trying to figure out what would work for her paid off!  I think that's 
wonderful!

Please keep us posted on Isabella's progress.  Prayers going out for her 
continued improvement.
:)
Wendy
 
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world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 1:14:37 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update and what seems to be working for us.


Hi all. Isabella is improving again. She is on interferon 7 days on and 7 days 
off. We opted for transdermal prednisone (once a day) and transdermal tramadol 
(twice a day). She hates pills. She gets transfer factor sprinkled on her 
canned food. We have finally found a food she LOVES ~ it's Innova EVO dry. I 
think someone here suggested it. 
 
Anyway, no more tremors or crying out on this regimen. Cutting the pred and 
inteferon out altogether did NOT work. I know interferon is controversial (some 
vets think it doesn't work) but since we have a seemingly magical formula FOR 
NOW, we are sticking with these 3 meds. Last vet check ~ NO temp and highest 
ever weight. 
 
For those who don't know her, she is anemic, has an enlarged spleen and history 
of high temps, crying out in pain, joint stiffness and tremors and 
shivering/spasms (we've had her 2 months).
Blessings,
Laurie


  

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Re: Isabella update ~ enlarged spleen not lymphoma!

2007-07-18 Thread catatonya
Keep us posted. Prayers on the way for Isabella.
  tonya

laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Isabella has been to the specialist. Her temperature was normal and weight 
the best ever. She has continued to have tremors. She also has a very fast 
rate of breathing (70-80 BPM). A spine xray revealed nothing amiss. An 
ultrasound revealed a very enlarged spleen (suspects: lymphoma or red blood 
cell production). We got the asparate biopsy results and she does not have 
lymphoma. She is on tramadal, clavamox and prednisone (we switched back 
from prednisalone because she was frothing). We are going to decrease the 
pred in case it is the cause of her tremors and or fast breathing (it CAN 
cause this in dogs). She seems happy except for the tremors. They almost 
resemble a seizure. If the pred decrease does not stop them, we will try an 
anti-seizure med. Vet has no idea why she cries out when we touch her or 
pick her up.
More as we learn more.
Laurie 





RE: Isabella update ~ enlarged spleen not lymphoma!

2007-07-18 Thread Melissa Lind
Best wishes and prayers are going your way Laurie. How frustrating that
Isabella cries out when you touch her since you probably just want to hold
her and comfort her. I'm sure she still knows how much you love her. I wish
she could just tell you why she hurts! Hang in there!

Melissa

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Isabella update ~ enlarged spleen not lymphoma!

Isabella has been to the specialist. Her temperature was normal and weight 
the best ever. She has continued to have tremors. She also has a very fast 
rate of breathing (70-80 BPM). A spine xray revealed nothing amiss. An 
ultrasound revealed a very enlarged spleen (suspects: lymphoma or red blood 
cell production). We got the asparate biopsy results and she does not have 
lymphoma.  She is on tramadal, clavamox and prednisone (we switched back 
from prednisalone because she was frothing). We are going to decrease the 
pred in case it is the cause of her tremors and or fast breathing (it CAN 
cause this in dogs). She seems happy except for the tremors. They almost 
resemble a seizure. If the pred decrease does not stop them, we will try an 
anti-seizure med. Vet has no idea why she cries out when we touch her or 
pick her up.
More as we learn more.
Laurie 







Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

2007-07-09 Thread Susan Dubose
No, because I haven't tried to mix it yet.

I did get some of the Missing Link, the Professional Strength, which has 
Spirulina in it. (This formula says it detoxifies).

Must have quite a bit because the powder is green.

The instruction say 3/4 teaspoon per cat.

I am startign them off w/ 1/8 so that the taste does not bother them.

I take 2 cans of moist food @ 3.oz or 1 @ 5.5 for 4 cats.

I divide into 4 little single serving bowls (World Market has lots of chioces 
and sometimes the Dollar Stores).

I put a pinch of Lysine, then the Missing Link, stir in.

I also take the little empty cans and fill one half full w/ water, swirl around 
so to get all of the juice, divide into their food.

Kitties like juice, It makes a gravey.

They cannot get too much water, of course.

I will ask around through, about just the Spiulina dosage for you.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:02 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Susan, do you have any idea of the dose of spirulina?


  Thanks from me 'n' the kitties




  Consciousness is Causal 
   and Physicality is its
   Manifestation.




  On Jul 6, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Susan Dubose wrote:


Laura,

I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of 
Missiing Link.

I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my 
other group of kitties eventually.

Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of 
their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core.

Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package.

One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver 
package.

The professional strength says it is for Recovery  Detoxification.

This is only available @ the vet's.

I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what 
the ingredient difference was.

But listed they have probiotics, carrot  alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze 
dried beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina.

I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps 
me.

A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and 
the vet was amazed that he threw the virus.

Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the 
spirulina actually helped.

Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that 
was going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years.

He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she 
also mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get.

She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid.

Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she 
was giving him.

I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after 
opening  use within 90 days.

I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of 
now (knock on wood) are not symptomatic.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message -
  From: laurieskatz
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion,
  Laurie






Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

2007-07-08 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey

Susan, do you have any idea of the dose of spirulina?

Thanks from me 'n' the kitties


Consciousness is Causal
 and Physicality is its
 Manifestation.


On Jul 6, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Susan Dubose wrote:


Laura,

I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a  
package of Missiing Link.


I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it  
into my other group of kitties eventually.


Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on  
top of their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core.


Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package.

One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a  
silver package.


The professional strength says it is for Recovery  Detoxification.

This is only available @ the vet's.

I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see  
what the ingredient difference was.


But listed they have probiotics, carrot  alfalfa powder, yeast,  
freeze dried beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as  
well as spirulina.


I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it  
helps me.


A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years  
ago, and the vet was amazed that he threw the virus.


Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the  
spirulina actually helped.


Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro  
food that was going around, and went into renal failure @ the age  
of 3 years.


He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped,  
but she also mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things  
for him to get.


She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid.

Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is  
that she was giving him.


I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge  
after opening  use within 90 days.


I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which  
as of now (knock on wood) are not symptomatic.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened  
claws.

 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message -
From: laurieskatz
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion,
Laurie






Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

2007-07-06 Thread laurieskatz
Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion,
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan Dubose 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 8:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Hi Laura!

  You might also try the Missing Link food supplement powder.

  You can purchase it through Drs. Foster  Smith, and soem other animal supply 
websites.

  OR, the veterinary formula is even better, which I believe, you have to get 
through a vet.


  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
  www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
  www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
  www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
 Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
 Purring welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
   Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


Isabella is doing well on the prednisone. She is again purring and kneading 
and following Lisa around. 
The hemobartonella test came back negative. Here is an email from a 
homeopathic vet/friend. I hope others can find some helpful suggestions here
Laurie

Hi Laurie.  This little girl is very sick.  I know you probably know this 
but as a general rule once a FeLV-positive cat gets sick they generally do not 
return to a normal state of health again.  And this cat is sick - her 
bloodwork is horrible. It looks like your vet is doing everything possible to 
boost her immune system and get her fever to abate.   Prednisone will possibly 
keep her comfortable for awhile - (which probably should become the primary 
goal).  If Isabella feels better on the prednisone then I would keep her on it. 
 I think doxycycline is probably worth trying - it can cause anorexia but my 
experience with it has been good (if the medicine is given with water and dosed 
correctly).  It would not hurt to start giving her some supplements in her food 
- antioxidants and such.  A good supplement would be Vitamin C (250mg daily in 
food).  I would also start adding a little plain yoghurt  nutritional (torula) 
yeast (great source of Vitamin B) to the food.  Vitamin B helps stimulate 
appetite in addition to many other great things.If Isabella is not already 
on a home-made or high quality food (Wellness, Solid Gold, Newman's Own, etc) I 
would immediately put her on such a diet.  I would recommend feeding her the 
canned form instead of dry food.  And I would do whatever is possible to keep 
her life stress-free. 


Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

2007-07-06 Thread Susan Dubose
Laura,

I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of 
Missiing Link.

I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my 
other group of kitties eventually.

Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of 
their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core.

Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package.

One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver package.

The professional strength says it is for Recovery  Detoxification.

This is only available @ the vet's.

I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what the 
ingredient difference was.

But listed they have probiotics, carrot  alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze dried 
beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina.

I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps me.

A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and the 
vet was amazed that he threw the virus.

Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the spirulina 
actually helped.

Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that was 
going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years.

He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she also 
mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get.

She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid.

Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she was 
giving him.

I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after 
opening  use within 90 days.

I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of now 
(knock on wood) are not symptomatic.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion,
  Laurie


Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

2007-07-06 Thread laurieskatz
Thanks Susan. I offered Missing Link a number of years ago after we visited a 
holistic vet 2 hours away. Mine all refused it. 
I wonder about the garlic in it...know I've seen garlic can be toxic to cats. I 
will check out the internet for Missing Link as well as the feline Transfer 
Factor we are currently using to see if they have similar ingredients. If not, 
Ill ask my vet to order ML. Has anyone tried PolyMVA? I used that for another 
cat a long time ago. We were too late to help him. It has colostrum in it and 
is used by humans and animals who have cancer.
Thanks for your interest in Isabella. I will let you know what I find out. 
Thanks!
Laurie

- Original Message - 
  From: Susan Dubose 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Laura,

  I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of 
Missiing Link.

  I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my 
other group of kitties eventually.

  Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of 
their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core.

  Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package.

  One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver package.

  The professional strength says it is for Recovery  Detoxification.

  This is only available @ the vet's.

  I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what the 
ingredient difference was.

  But listed they have probiotics, carrot  alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze dried 
beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina.

  I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps me.

  A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and 
the vet was amazed that he threw the virus.

  Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the spirulina 
actually helped.

  Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that was 
going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years.

  He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she also 
mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get.

  She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid.

  Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she was 
giving him.

  I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after 
opening  use within 90 days.

  I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of now 
(knock on wood) are not symptomatic.

  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
  www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
  www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
  www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
 Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
 Purring welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
   Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion,
Laurie


Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

2007-07-06 Thread Susan Dubose
Yes, please keep us posted.

As far as the Missing Link, the quanity of garlic must be pretty small, or they 
wouldn't put it in the formula.
But cats do either like it or they turn their furry little noses up

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Thanks Susan. I offered Missing Link a number of years ago after we visited a 
holistic vet 2 hours away. Mine all refused it. 
  I wonder about the garlic in it...know I've seen garlic can be toxic to cats. 
I will check out the internet for Missing Link as well as the feline Transfer 
Factor we are currently using to see if they have similar ingredients. If not, 
Ill ask my vet to order ML. Has anyone tried PolyMVA? I used that for another 
cat a long time ago. We were too late to help him. It has colostrum in it and 
is used by humans and animals who have cancer.
  Thanks for your interest in Isabella. I will let you know what I find out. 
Thanks!
  Laurie

  - Original Message - 
From: Susan Dubose 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


Laura,

I was @ my vet this morning, so I went ahead and picked up a package of 
Missiing Link.

I have been meaning to try it on my felv+ gang, as well as work it into my 
other group of kitties eventually.

Right now the nonfelv cats just get the brewer's yeast sprinkled on top of 
their dry food, which again is the Evo mixed w/ Core.

Ok, both formulas say veterinary formula on the package.

One package is gold, while the professional strength is on a silver 
package.

The professional strength says it is for Recovery  Detoxification.

This is only available @ the vet's.

I didn't have time @ the vet office to compare both packages to see what 
the ingredient difference was.

But listed they have probiotics, carrot  alfalfa powder, yeast, freeze 
dried beef liver, kelp, dandalion root, garlic, yucca as well as spirulina.

I am interested most in the spirulina, I take that and I believe it helps 
me.

A friend of mine had a felv+ cat that she gave spirulina to years ago, and 
the vet was amazed that he threw the virus.

Hard to tell if he was just one of those cats that does, or if the 
spirulina actually helped.

Another friend had a kitty that ate some of the bad pouch Nutro food that 
was going around, and went into renal failure @ the age of 3 years.

He recovered after 2 weeks @ the vet and lots of sub Q's helped, but she 
also mixed up a batch of spirulina and some other things for him to get.

She gave it to him orally, it was a liquid.

Not sure how he is doing, I need to call her and see what it is that she 
was giving him.

I paid $21. for one pound of supplement,must be kept in the fridge after 
opening  use within 90 days.

I will let you know if I see any difference in my felv+ cats, which as of 
now (knock on wood) are not symptomatic.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Susan, great idea. I will check into itthanks for this suggestion,
  Laurie


Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

2007-07-05 Thread laurieskatz
Isabella is doing well on the prednisone. She is again purring and kneading and 
following Lisa around. 
The hemobartonella test came back negative. Here is an email from a homeopathic 
vet/friend. I hope others can find some helpful suggestions here
Laurie

Hi Laurie.  This little girl is very sick.  I know you probably know this but 
as a general rule once a FeLV-positive cat gets sick they generally do not 
return to a normal state of health again.  And this cat is sick - her 
bloodwork is horrible. It looks like your vet is doing everything possible to 
boost her immune system and get her fever to abate.   Prednisone will possibly 
keep her comfortable for awhile - (which probably should become the primary 
goal).  If Isabella feels better on the prednisone then I would keep her on it. 
 I think doxycycline is probably worth trying - it can cause anorexia but my 
experience with it has been good (if the medicine is given with water and dosed 
correctly).  It would not hurt to start giving her some supplements in her food 
- antioxidants and such.  A good supplement would be Vitamin C (250mg daily in 
food).  I would also start adding a little plain yoghurt  nutritional (torula) 
yeast (great source of Vitamin B) to the food.  Vitamin B helps stimulate 
appetite in addition to many other great things.If Isabella is not already 
on a home-made or high quality food (Wellness, Solid Gold, Newman's Own, etc) I 
would immediately put her on such a diet.  I would recommend feeding her the 
canned form instead of dry food.  And I would do whatever is possible to keep 
her life stress-free. 


Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations

2007-07-05 Thread Susan Dubose
Hi Laura!

You might also try the Missing Link food supplement powder.

You can purchase it through Drs. Foster  Smith, and soem other animal supply 
websites.

OR, the veterinary formula is even better, which I believe, you have to get 
through a vet.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update and homeopathic recommendations


  Isabella is doing well on the prednisone. She is again purring and kneading 
and following Lisa around. 
  The hemobartonella test came back negative. Here is an email from a 
homeopathic vet/friend. I hope others can find some helpful suggestions here
  Laurie

  Hi Laurie.  This little girl is very sick.  I know you probably know this but 
as a general rule once a FeLV-positive cat gets sick they generally do not 
return to a normal state of health again.  And this cat is sick - her 
bloodwork is horrible. It looks like your vet is doing everything possible to 
boost her immune system and get her fever to abate.   Prednisone will possibly 
keep her comfortable for awhile - (which probably should become the primary 
goal).  If Isabella feels better on the prednisone then I would keep her on it. 
 I think doxycycline is probably worth trying - it can cause anorexia but my 
experience with it has been good (if the medicine is given with water and dosed 
correctly).  It would not hurt to start giving her some supplements in her food 
- antioxidants and such.  A good supplement would be Vitamin C (250mg daily in 
food).  I would also start adding a little plain yoghurt  nutritional (torula) 
yeast (great source of Vitamin B) to the food.  Vitamin B helps stimulate 
appetite in addition to many other great things.If Isabella is not already 
on a home-made or high quality food (Wellness, Solid Gold, Newman's Own, etc) I 
would immediately put her on such a diet.  I would recommend feeding her the 
canned form instead of dry food.  And I would do whatever is possible to keep 
her life stress-free. 


Re: Isabella update

2007-07-04 Thread Marylyn
The statement that there would have to be an abscess for the 
place on the head to be causing the fever.  Maybe his definition of an abscess 
and mine are different.  Like I said, Dixie had sores that were not visibly 
infected (thank God my holistic vet insisted that I ask my regular vet to 
culture them and have slides tested for sensitivity to various drugs).  Also 
wounds heal on the surface sometimes but are still not healing 
belowok another story.  Cat bites finger, cat breaks finger, 
surgery and lots of antibiotics.  The surgeon does surgery again to straighten 
the nail etc and finds that the wound is still very infectedIt didn't look 
it on the surface and (being 50 at the time) I wasn't really concerned about 
the nail.  I about decided against the surgery.  Very glad I didn't.  It could 
have easily cost me the finger.  

These are just happenings but something just doesn't sound right about the 
bite/wound on the head.  

See what others on the list say.  Frankly (I have very tolerant regular vets) I 
would check it again.  He is probably right but you have had enough for a 
lifetime.   





 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 8:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Marylyn, I think there is a holistic vet in another city fairly close by. I 
will try to find out. Also, a vet in another city who helps with rescue kittys 
has some holistic training but can't call herself holistic because she hasn't 
stayed current.I will email her today.  

  Please tell me what doesn't make sense...does the pred seem like the wrong 
thing? 

  I didn't sleep very well last night thinking about how frightened Isabella 
was and how I was not able to comfort her. I know some vets comfort and talk to 
kittys. My vet does not do this. He has other wonderful qualities. This my 
third life threatening and mysterious illness this year with kittys and I feel 
numb with fear. I am blessed by the survival of the other two.
  L
- Original Message - 
From: Marylyn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update


Some of this makes no sense to me (only in light of experiences with my own 
critters--not saying he is wrong).  Dixie got hot spots that were raw, not 
abscessed, and they caused a bunch of problems.  

I wish you had a holistic vet close by..just to have another style 
practitioner  take a look.  

I am so sorry you both are going thru this.  I know how totally frustrating 
it is and how helpless you feel.  

You can give probiotics without causing harm.  I don't know if they would 
do any good but they might with the lethargy.  







 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:40 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it 
because it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I asked 
him to look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if he saw 
something (and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took her temp 
and shivered in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was crying when they 
were giving her fluids. Broke my heart. 

  He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says 
the low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from attacking 
red cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other than the fever 
and lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine output. No runny 
nose or eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. 
He said she'd have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it 
is the reason for the feline leukemia.

  One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent 
reason. She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry 
out if you just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on 
exam.her foster mom reports

Re: Isabella update

2007-07-04 Thread Marylyn
The vet with rescues may have some insight as to what is going on here just 
from experience.  Please understand that I am not saying your vet is wrong or 
that he is doing anything less than the best.  Sometimes, people who are far 
from a situation pick up something those close to it don't.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 8:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Marylyn, I think there is a holistic vet in another city fairly close by. I 
will try to find out. Also, a vet in another city who helps with rescue kittys 
has some holistic training but can't call herself holistic because she hasn't 
stayed current.I will email her today.  

  Please tell me what doesn't make sense...does the pred seem like the wrong 
thing? 

  I didn't sleep very well last night thinking about how frightened Isabella 
was and how I was not able to comfort her. I know some vets comfort and talk to 
kittys. My vet does not do this. He has other wonderful qualities. This my 
third life threatening and mysterious illness this year with kittys and I feel 
numb with fear. I am blessed by the survival of the other two.
  L
- Original Message - 
From: Marylyn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update


Some of this makes no sense to me (only in light of experiences with my own 
critters--not saying he is wrong).  Dixie got hot spots that were raw, not 
abscessed, and they caused a bunch of problems.  

I wish you had a holistic vet close by..just to have another style 
practitioner  take a look.  

I am so sorry you both are going thru this.  I know how totally frustrating 
it is and how helpless you feel.  

You can give probiotics without causing harm.  I don't know if they would 
do any good but they might with the lethargy.  







 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:40 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it 
because it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I asked 
him to look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if he saw 
something (and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took her temp 
and shivered in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was crying when they 
were giving her fluids. Broke my heart. 

  He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says 
the low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from attacking 
red cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other than the fever 
and lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine output. No runny 
nose or eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. 
He said she'd have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it 
is the reason for the feline leukemia.

  One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent 
reason. She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry 
out if you just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on 
exam.her foster mom reports that she stretches her rear legs alot. I 
suspect it could be stiffness from inactivity but who knows. When she first 
came, she seemed to lay down clumsily, favroing one rear leg. The vet checked 
out her rear legs and found nothing wrong.

  L

  - Original Message - 
From: Marylyn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update


Of course she is frightened.  She knows what power he has.  Ask Dixie.  
When there is something serious going on she trembles.  When I am thinking 
about taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she 
spends lots of time showing me how healthy she is.  Ebony did the same thing.  
Is there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad 
spectrum antibiotic in hopes

Re: Isabella update

2007-07-04 Thread Jane Lyons

Dear Laurie
I identify with your fear for Isabella, I am sure all of us here do.

I've been reading your posts trying to figure out just what Isabella is 
dealing with.

Other than a fever and lethargy, she has no other symptoms?

I did not know that Doxy caused a change in appetite. My (allopathic) 
vet put
MeMe on it for 21 days to treat her URI. It did not seem to effect her 
appetite in any way.


My homeopathic vet has her on FortiFlora the probiotic that I have 
written about, and

that seems to have increased her appetite.

I hope someone here might have some suggestions. I agree with Marylyn 
that if you can get
her to a homeopath, you will have another viewpoint and insight into 
what is going on.


I hope you see some improvement today. I do not know anything more 
stressful than trying
to comfort a sick kittie. Please keep us posted and hopefully someone 
might have experienced

something similar. We're sending angels to Isabella.

Jane







On Jul 4, 2007, at 9:30 AM, laurieskatz wrote:

Marylyn, I think there is a holistic vet in another city fairly close 
by. I will try to find out. Also, a vet in another city who helps with 
rescue kittys has some holistic training but can't call herself 
holistic because she hasn't stayed current.I will email her today.  

 
Please tell me what doesn't make sense...does the pred seem like the 
wrong thing?

 
I didn't sleep very well last night thinking about how frightened 
Isabella was and how I was not able to comfort her. I know some vets 
comfort and talk to kittys. My vet does not do this. He has other 
wonderful qualities. This my third life threatening and mysterious 
illness this year with kittys and I feel numb with fear. I am blessed 
by the survival of the other two.

L

- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update

Some of this makes no sense to me (only in light of experiences with 
my own critters--not saying he is wrong).  Dixie got hot spots that 
were raw, not abscessed, and they caused a bunch of problems. 

 
I wish you had a holistic vet close by..just to have another 
style practitioner  take a look. 

 
I am so sorry you both are going thru this.  I know how totally 
frustrating it is and how helpless you feel. 

 
You can give probiotics without causing harm.  I don't know if they 
would do any good but they might with the lethargy. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If you have men who 
will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise 
with their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis

- Original Message -
From: laurieskatz
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update

Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use 
it because it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping 
eating...I asked him to look at her blood for hemobart but he 
neglected to tell me if he saw something (and I forgot to ask). Isa 
started shivering when he took her temp and shivered in my lap for 
the rest of our time there. She was crying when they were giving her 
fluids. Broke my heart.

 
He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He 
says the low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the 
body from attacking red cells IF that is what is going on. She has 
no symptoms other than the fever and lethargy. Normal stools, normal 
appetite, normal urine output. No runny nose or eyes. She did have a 
healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. He said she'd 
have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it is 
the reason for the feline leukemia.

 
One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent 
reason. She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she 
will cry out if you just touch her. I told the vet but he could find 
nothing on exam.her foster mom reports that she stretches her 
rear legs alot. I suspect it could be stiffness from inactivity but 
who knows. When she first came, she seemed to lay down clumsily, 
favroing one rear leg. The vet checked out her rear legs and found 
nothing wrong.

 
L
 
- Original Message -

From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update

Of course she is frightened.  She knows what power he has.  Ask 
Dixie.  When there is something serious going on she trembles.  
When I am thinking about taking her to the vets' and she is fine 
(or is dead set again going) she spends lots of time showing me how 
healthy she is.  Ebony did the same thing.  Is there anything to 
culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad spectrum

Re: Isabella update

2007-07-04 Thread laurieskatz
Marylyn, I think there is a holistic vet in another city fairly close by. I 
will try to find out. Also, a vet in another city who helps with rescue kittys 
has some holistic training but can't call herself holistic because she hasn't 
stayed current.I will email her today.  

Please tell me what doesn't make sense...does the pred seem like the wrong 
thing? 

I didn't sleep very well last night thinking about how frightened Isabella was 
and how I was not able to comfort her. I know some vets comfort and talk to 
kittys. My vet does not do this. He has other wonderful qualities. This my 
third life threatening and mysterious illness this year with kittys and I feel 
numb with fear. I am blessed by the survival of the other two.
L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Some of this makes no sense to me (only in light of experiences with my own 
critters--not saying he is wrong).  Dixie got hot spots that were raw, not 
abscessed, and they caused a bunch of problems.  

  I wish you had a holistic vet close by..just to have another style 
practitioner  take a look.  

  I am so sorry you both are going thru this.  I know how totally frustrating 
it is and how helpless you feel.  

  You can give probiotics without causing harm.  I don't know if they would do 
any good but they might with the lethargy.  







   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update


Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it 
because it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I asked 
him to look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if he saw 
something (and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took her temp 
and shivered in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was crying when they 
were giving her fluids. Broke my heart. 

He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says 
the low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from attacking 
red cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other than the fever 
and lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine output. No runny 
nose or eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. 
He said she'd have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it 
is the reason for the feline leukemia.

One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent reason. 
She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry out if you 
just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on exam.her foster 
mom reports that she stretches her rear legs alot. I suspect it could be 
stiffness from inactivity but who knows. When she first came, she seemed to lay 
down clumsily, favroing one rear leg. The vet checked out her rear legs and 
found nothing wrong.

L

- Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Of course she is frightened.  She knows what power he has.  Ask Dixie.  
When there is something serious going on she trembles.  When I am thinking 
about taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she 
spends lots of time showing me how healthy she is.  Ebony did the same thing.  
Is there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad 
spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the fever?  Just 
curious..is compounding the doxy an option?






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: Isabella update


Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one 
other time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were 
slightly elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up

Re: Isabella update

2007-07-04 Thread elizabeth trent

Laurie,
this just breaks my heart -- there is nothing more heart-wrenching than
having someone you love cry out like that.  I hope so much that these
treatments will help her.  You are such a good mommy -- I know she takes a
lot of comfort in your care.

love and hugs to you,
elizabeth


On 7/3/07, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it
because it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I
asked him to look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if
he saw something (and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took
her temp and shivered in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was
crying when they were giving her fluids. Broke my heart.

He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says
the low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from
attacking red cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other
than the fever and lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine
output. No runny nose or eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of
her head when rescued. He said she'd have an abscess if this was the cause
of the fever. I suspect it is the reason for the feline leukemia.

One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent
reason. She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry
out if you just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on
exam.her foster mom reports that she stretches her rear legs alot. I
suspect it could be stiffness from inactivity but who knows. When she first
came, she seemed to lay down clumsily, favroing one rear leg. The vet
checked out her rear legs and found nothing wrong.

L

- Original Message -

*From:* Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM
*Subject:* Re: Isabella update


Of course she is frightened.  She knows what power he has.  Ask Dixie.
When there is something serious going on she trembles.  When I am thinking
about taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going)
she spends lots of time showing me how healthy she is.  Ebony did the same
thing.  Is there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a
broad spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the
fever?  Just curious..is compounding the doxy an option?






 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message -
*From:* laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM
*Subject:* Isabella update


Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one other
time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were slightly
elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 104.2a week ago. Her 
7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very quiet
at the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse
than last week to him.

We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got home
she ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday
for next steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause
appetite issues and I don't want to risk that.

Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet.
Laurie






Re: Isabella update

2007-07-04 Thread Marylyn
Please consider trying Rescue Remedy when she is going to the vet's.  And take 
some yourself (honest--if you are calm, she will be a little calmer too) 






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:40 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it because 
it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I asked him to 
look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if he saw something 
(and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took her temp and shivered 
in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was crying when they were giving 
her fluids. Broke my heart. 

  He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says the 
low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from attacking red 
cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other than the fever and 
lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine output. No runny nose or 
eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. He said 
she'd have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it is the 
reason for the feline leukemia.

  One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent reason. 
She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry out if you 
just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on exam.her foster 
mom reports that she stretches her rear legs alot. I suspect it could be 
stiffness from inactivity but who knows. When she first came, she seemed to lay 
down clumsily, favroing one rear leg. The vet checked out her rear legs and 
found nothing wrong.

  L

  - Original Message - 
From: Marylyn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update


Of course she is frightened.  She knows what power he has.  Ask Dixie.  
When there is something serious going on she trembles.  When I am thinking 
about taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she 
spends lots of time showing me how healthy she is.  Ebony did the same thing.  
Is there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad 
spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the fever?  Just 
curious..is compounding the doxy an option?






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM
  Subject: Isabella update


  Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one other 
time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were slightly 
elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 104.2 a 
week ago. Her 7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very quiet at 
the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse than 
last week to him.

  We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got home 
she ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday for 
next steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause appetite 
issues and I don't want to risk that.

  Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet.
  Laurie


Re: Isabella update

2007-07-04 Thread laurieskatz
Good idea. I have some here. 
I just spent some time with her. She is great today. Walking around and raising 
her back up to be petted. Happy girl today. 
Have not seen this for awhile. Happy girlS (Isabella, foster mom Lisa and me) 
today!
L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:28 AM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Please consider trying Rescue Remedy when she is going to the vet's.  And 
take some yourself (honest--if you are calm, she will be a little calmer too) 






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update


Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it 
because it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I asked 
him to look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if he saw 
something (and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took her temp 
and shivered in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was crying when they 
were giving her fluids. Broke my heart. 

He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says 
the low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from attacking 
red cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other than the fever 
and lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine output. No runny 
nose or eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. 
He said she'd have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it 
is the reason for the feline leukemia.

One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent reason. 
She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry out if you 
just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on exam.her foster 
mom reports that she stretches her rear legs alot. I suspect it could be 
stiffness from inactivity but who knows. When she first came, she seemed to lay 
down clumsily, favroing one rear leg. The vet checked out her rear legs and 
found nothing wrong.

L

- Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Of course she is frightened.  She knows what power he has.  Ask Dixie.  
When there is something serious going on she trembles.  When I am thinking 
about taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she 
spends lots of time showing me how healthy she is.  Ebony did the same thing.  
Is there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad 
spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the fever?  Just 
curious..is compounding the doxy an option?






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: Isabella update


Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one 
other time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were 
slightly elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 
104.2 a week ago. Her 7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very 
quiet at the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse 
than last week to him.

We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got 
home she ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday 
for next steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause appetite 
issues and I don't want to risk that.

Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet.
Laurie


Re: Isabella update

2007-07-03 Thread Marylyn
Of course she is frightened.  She knows what power he has.  Ask Dixie.  When 
there is something serious going on she trembles.  When I am thinking about 
taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she spends 
lots of time showing me how healthy she is.  Ebony did the same thing.  Is 
there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad 
spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the fever?  Just 
curious..is compounding the doxy an option?






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM
  Subject: Isabella update


  Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one other 
time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were slightly 
elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 104.2 a 
week ago. Her 7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very quiet at 
the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse than 
last week to him.

  We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got home she 
ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday for next 
steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause appetite issues 
and I don't want to risk that.

  Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet.
  Laurie


Re: Isabella update

2007-07-03 Thread laurieskatz
Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it because 
it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I asked him to 
look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if he saw something 
(and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took her temp and shivered 
in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was crying when they were giving 
her fluids. Broke my heart. 

He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says the 
low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from attacking red 
cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other than the fever and 
lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine output. No runny nose or 
eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. He said 
she'd have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it is the 
reason for the feline leukemia.

One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent reason. She 
rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry out if you 
just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on exam.her foster 
mom reports that she stretches her rear legs alot. I suspect it could be 
stiffness from inactivity but who knows. When she first came, she seemed to lay 
down clumsily, favroing one rear leg. The vet checked out her rear legs and 
found nothing wrong.

L

- Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Of course she is frightened.  She knows what power he has.  Ask Dixie.  When 
there is something serious going on she trembles.  When I am thinking about 
taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she spends 
lots of time showing me how healthy she is.  Ebony did the same thing.  Is 
there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad 
spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the fever?  Just 
curious..is compounding the doxy an option?






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: Isabella update


Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one other 
time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were slightly 
elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 104.2 a 
week ago. Her 7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very quiet at 
the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse than 
last week to him.

We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got home 
she ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday for 
next steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause appetite 
issues and I don't want to risk that.

Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet.
Laurie


Re: Isabella update

2007-07-03 Thread Marylyn
Some of this makes no sense to me (only in light of experiences with my own 
critters--not saying he is wrong).  Dixie got hot spots that were raw, not 
abscessed, and they caused a bunch of problems.  

I wish you had a holistic vet close by..just to have another style 
practitioner  take a look.  

I am so sorry you both are going thru this.  I know how totally frustrating it 
is and how helpless you feel.  

You can give probiotics without causing harm.  I don't know if they would do 
any good but they might with the lethargy.  







 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:40 PM
  Subject: Re: Isabella update


  Marylyn, yes he can get the doxy compounded. I am reluctant to use it because 
it can cause anorexia.I am so afraid of her stopping eating...I asked him to 
look at her blood for hemobart but he neglected to tell me if he saw something 
(and I forgot to ask). Isa started shivering when he took her temp and shivered 
in my lap for the rest of our time there. She was crying when they were giving 
her fluids. Broke my heart. 

  He is trying to treat the fever and does not know why she has it. He says the 
low RBC is part of the leukemia and pred might stop the body from attacking red 
cells IF that is what is going on. She has no symptoms other than the fever and 
lethargy. Normal stools, normal appetite, normal urine output. No runny nose or 
eyes. She did have a healing wound on the top of her head when rescued. He said 
she'd have an abscess if this was the cause of the fever. I suspect it is the 
reason for the feline leukemia.

  One thing that strikes me is she will often cry out for no apparent reason. 
She rolled onto her back today and cried out. Sometimes she will cry out if you 
just touch her. I told the vet but he could find nothing on exam.her foster 
mom reports that she stretches her rear legs alot. I suspect it could be 
stiffness from inactivity but who knows. When she first came, she seemed to lay 
down clumsily, favroing one rear leg. The vet checked out her rear legs and 
found nothing wrong.

  L

  - Original Message - 
From: Marylyn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: Isabella update


Of course she is frightened.  She knows what power he has.  Ask Dixie.  
When there is something serious going on she trembles.  When I am thinking 
about taking her to the vets' and she is fine (or is dead set again going) she 
spends lots of time showing me how healthy she is.  Ebony did the same thing.  
Is there anything to culture and test or is he using/trying to use a broad 
spectrum antibiotic in hopes of getting whatever is causing the fever?  Just 
curious..is compounding the doxy an option?






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:30 PM
  Subject: Isabella update


  Isabella saw the vet today. Her weight is 8.9 (it was this high one other 
time) and her HCT was up to 22 from 20. Her other red counts were slightly 
elevated as well. We cannot kick the fever. She was up to 104.9 from 104.2 a 
week ago. Her 7 days on interferon ended last night. She was very quiet at 
the vet's and shivering the entire time. The vet said she looked worse than 
last week to him.

  We started prednisone, gave fluids and a Vitamin B shot. When we got home 
she ate a good serving of canned food. Vet wants to touch base on Thursday for 
next steps. I decided agst doxy at this time because it can cause appetite 
issues and I don't want to risk that.

  Thanks for all the suggestions which I have shared with my vet.
  Laurie