Re: Newbie question

2007-01-20 Thread Jennifer Madon


Great news!  I am a little embarrassed to admit this but, I found the 
source of the pink puddle!  I was washing dished last night and felt my 
sock get wet.  I looked down and found a pink puddle but no midnight.  A 
rink broke off of my sink and it is leaking.  Somewhere between the leak 
and my floor, it is coming in contact with something that tinges it 
pink.  I am so relieved.  I don't regret asking because I learned a lot 
of great things.  Thanks to everyone and I hope to be able to stick 
around.  Maybe one day I will even be able to help answer questions!

Thanks again,
Jennifer



Re: Newbie question

2007-01-20 Thread TenHouseCats

amazing how we always blame the cats, huh?

years ago, i was sitting in my bathroom one day, using the human litterbox,
and something shook in another part of the house. immediately i wondered
just what the heck they'd gotten into THIS time. found out later that
our little midwest town had had a very mild earthquake. and the funniest
part of it was that the majority of the folks  interviewed on the news had
thought the same thing i had--that their cats or dogs had knocked something
over!



On 1/20/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Great news!  I am a little embarrassed to admit this but, I found the
source of the pink puddle!  I was washing dished last night and felt my
sock get wet.  I looked down and found a pink puddle but no midnight.  A
rink broke off of my sink and it is leaking.  Somewhere between the leak
and my floor, it is coming in contact with something that tinges it
pink.  I am so relieved.  I don't regret asking because I learned a lot
of great things.  Thanks to everyone and I hope to be able to stick
around.  Maybe one day I will even be able to help answer questions!
Thanks again,
Jennifer





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Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine

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ICQ: 289856892


Re: Newbie question

2007-01-20 Thread elizabeth trent

LOL  I'm glad it wasn't from Midnight :0)

On 1/20/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Great news!  I am a little embarrassed to admit this but, I found the
source of the pink puddle!  I was washing dished last night and felt my
sock get wet.  I looked down and found a pink puddle but no midnight.  A
rink broke off of my sink and it is leaking.  Somewhere between the leak
and my floor, it is coming in contact with something that tinges it
pink.  I am so relieved.  I don't regret asking because I learned a lot
of great things.  Thanks to everyone and I hope to be able to stick
around.  Maybe one day I will even be able to help answer questions!
Thanks again,
Jennifer




Re: Newbie question

2007-01-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They sell optional large bases, which cost $15 extra, and that is an option I
selected. It is very stable.

Phaewryn

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Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
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http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html




Re: Newbie question

2007-01-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LOL! That's funny! Glad it wasn't the cat... though it could make the cat sick 
if he
drinks it, so you should probably keep a towel down there to soak it up until 
you can
get a plumber out to make the repairs!

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw!
http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html




Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread Nina

Hi Jennifer,
I'm glad you found us and so very glad Midnight found you.  I take it 
the antibiotics were for the abscess on his tail and not because he is 
displaying any other symptoms of illness?  Did the infection clear up 
okay?  How old does the vet think Midnight is?  Adult, healthy cats have 
a much better chance of clearing the virus than an older, sickly, or 
young kitten.  Because he was a stray, there's no way for you to know 
when he contracted the disease.  It may have happened when he got the 
abscess on his tail.  I'm not sure why your vet is having you retest in 
only 3 weeks.   If Midnight is in the process of clearing felv, a three 
week interval between testing is probably too soon to be reliable.  
Usually it is recommended to wait 3 to 6 months.  Did the vet tell you 
it was a faint pos?  If the vet suspects the test was a false pos, then 
a retest in 3 weeks makes more sense.  It is also usually recommended to 
retest using an IFA, (not the in house ELISA). 

When you are ready to have him neutered, please ask us about protocols 
and procedures to help reduce the stress on his body during surgery.  
Felv cats need to be kept as stress free as possible and fed as high a 
quality diet as you can. 

I'm not sure what these puddles on the floor might be.  Do they smell 
like urine?  Has he been using his litter box?  Have you noticed any 
straining, or does he cry when he urinates?  It sounds more like it 
might be vomit to me.  Have you mentioned the slight blood tinge to the 
vet?  It doesn't sound right, but I'm hoping it's nothing serious.  
Has he been showing any other symptoms?  Any coughing or upper 
respiratory congestion?  Is he eating normally?  Keep a close eye on him 
and see if you catch him in the act of excreting these puddles.


I'm sure others will be posting soon with suggestions.  Ask as many 
questions as you like.  The people on this list are wonderfully 
supportive and we all know how scary this diagnosis is.

Nina


Jennifer Madon wrote:
Hi everyone!  Let me start by saying that my name is Jennifer.  I am 
new to the whole feline leukemia situation.  We had a stray cat adopt 
us right after Christmas.  When he wouldn't go away, we decided to 
adopt him.  He is so sweet and loving, I am so glad my husband said 
yes!!  We took him to the vet and he tested positive.  He also had an 
abscess on the base of his tail.  We are done with the antibiotics but 
I still put to ointment on him.  We go back next Tuesday (3 weeks 
after original test) for a retest.  After that, we are having him 
fixed.  My question is that I have found (about 3 times) some puddles 
of water on the kitchen floor.  I thought maybe he was peeing on the 
floor but the liquid is clear with a pink tint to it.  Does this sound 
right?  Any ideas?  I am very new to this so any info or tips on this 
or anything else is appreciated!! Thanks!

Jennifer and Midnight











Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread Jennifer Madon
You are correct about the antibiotics were for the abscess, and the vet 
seemed sure they were cat bites.  I never heard about a faint pos., just 
pos.  The vet guessed he is about 8 months.  He has no symptoms at all.  
The vet said that he was shocked when the test came back pos.  They 
didn't do any other tests or shots that day because he had a fever (due 
to the abscess ). 
As far as the puddles, they don't smell at all!  He has gotten SOOO far 
since he has been here.  He eats great.  He also drinks water a lot, 
well a lot to me but I am new to cats.  He does use his litter box, he 
doesn't appear to strain and he doesn't cry.  Some times he walks around 
me and just meows for no apparent reason.  I think he just wants to be 
held.  What a lap cat!  He is sleeping on the desk beside me now.  He is 
very spunky.  At night he is calm and loving, but at 5 AM, any things 
that moves is fair game for a pouncing! LOL.  Any tips for getting him 
to use a scratching board instead of my couch and office chair.  I am 
firmly against declawing him but my husband is threating it.  I told him 
I would definger him if he did!  Can you recommend a food, I am sure you 
would scold me over his current food.  But take it easy on me, I am new 
to this! LOL 
Midnight will be neutered somewhere around the end of Jan. and beginning 
of Feb.  I will make the appointment of Tues.  Oh and stress free may be 
hard.  We have 3 kids, but he seems to love them.  They are crazy 
amongst themselves but the all calm down and get very gentle when 
dealing with him.  All they know is that he is sick and very special.

Thanks again
Jennifer

Nina wrote:

Hi Jennifer,
I'm glad you found us and so very glad Midnight found you.  I take it 
the antibiotics were for the abscess on his tail and not because he is 
displaying any other symptoms of illness?  Did the infection clear up 
okay?  How old does the vet think Midnight is?  Adult, healthy cats 
have a much better chance of clearing the virus than an older, sickly, 
or young kitten.  Because he was a stray, there's no way for you to 
know when he contracted the disease.  It may have happened when he got 
the abscess on his tail.  I'm not sure why your vet is having you 
retest in only 3 weeks.   If Midnight is in the process of clearing 
felv, a three week interval between testing is probably too soon to be 
reliable.  Usually it is recommended to wait 3 to 6 months.  Did the 
vet tell you it was a faint pos?  If the vet suspects the test was a 
false pos, then a retest in 3 weeks makes more sense.  It is also 
usually recommended to retest using an IFA, (not the in house ELISA).
When you are ready to have him neutered, please ask us about protocols 
and procedures to help reduce the stress on his body during surgery.  
Felv cats need to be kept as stress free as possible and fed as high a 
quality diet as you can.
I'm not sure what these puddles on the floor might be.  Do they 
smell like urine?  Has he been using his litter box?  Have you noticed 
any straining, or does he cry when he urinates?  It sounds more like 
it might be vomit to me.  Have you mentioned the slight blood tinge to 
the vet?  It doesn't sound right, but I'm hoping it's nothing 
serious.  Has he been showing any other symptoms?  Any coughing or 
upper respiratory congestion?  Is he eating normally?  Keep a close 
eye on him and see if you catch him in the act of excreting these 
puddles.


I'm sure others will be posting soon with suggestions.  Ask as many 
questions as you like.  The people on this list are wonderfully 
supportive and we all know how scary this diagnosis is.

Nina


Jennifer Madon wrote:
Hi everyone!  Let me start by saying that my name is Jennifer.  I am 
new to the whole feline leukemia situation.  We had a stray cat adopt 
us right after Christmas.  When he wouldn't go away, we decided to 
adopt him.  He is so sweet and loving, I am so glad my husband said 
yes!!  We took him to the vet and he tested positive.  He also had an 
abscess on the base of his tail.  We are done with the antibiotics 
but I still put to ointment on him.  We go back next Tuesday (3 weeks 
after original test) for a retest.  After that, we are having him 
fixed.  My question is that I have found (about 3 times) some puddles 
of water on the kitchen floor.  I thought maybe he was peeing on the 
floor but the liquid is clear with a pink tint to it.  Does this 
sound right?  Any ideas?  I am very new to this so any info or tips 
on this or anything else is appreciated!! Thanks!

Jennifer and Midnight














Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pink tinged watery stuff is USUALLY vomit, and it turns pink when they have
roundworms. I'd have him dewormed, if you haven't already (and don't freak out 
too
much if you see spaghetti-like worms in the pink stuff somewhere down the 
road). It
COULD be urine, but that would indicate an infection... the only thing that 
turns
urine pink is blood, and the only way you get blood in urine is infection 
(unless
he's been recently cathetered, in which case it could be trauma to the 
urethra). You
can try to see if it's pee... wait for him to go to the litterbox, and as soon 
as he
comes out, wipe his privates with a piece of white toilet paper, if he's just 
peed,
you should get a little drop, and if it's pink, you know that's the orifice it's
coming from.

I think the house retest would be OK, if ALL you are hoping to do is check to 
see if
it was a bad result (like due to human error). If you're retesting to see if 
he's
throw the virus off, that's too son, and as others stated, you should use an IFA
test, not the in house ELISA SNAP test.

The very most important thing to do to care for FELV+ cats is to feed the very 
BEST
food you can afford. Either homemade, or premium brands like Wellness, Innova, 
or
Chicken Soup for the Cat brands. A lot of people supplement with Lysine and 
vitamin
C. Plus lots give low dose oral interferon alpha. here's more info on that:
http://www.islandpharmacy.com/site/1420401/page/769212
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/9352/interferon.html
http://www.amarbio.com/03productcandidate.html

And here's my page with more links about FELV:
http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html

Here is the webpage for all of the popular treatments for FELV:
http://www.felineleukemia.org/treatmnt.html

Like I said, DIET should come first though!

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html




Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread Nina

Thanks Phaewryn,
I'd never noticed tinged vomit with roundworms, good to know. 
Nina


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pink tinged watery stuff is USUALLY vomit, and it turns pink when they have
roundworms. 





Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Put his scratching posts close to the places he is currently scratching, and 
get some
double sided tape to stick on the places you don't want him to scratch, cats 
HATE
tape and sticky stuff. They make a product specifically for this if you can't 
find
any good double sided tape locally:
http://www.stickypaws.com/
http://www.stickypaws.com/sitedirector/site/department.cfm?id=BC2D70F9-BAD4-4137-808F21F509D31AF4killnav=1

If the tape doesn't work, there's ALWAYS Soft Paws, which are little claw caps 
that
you glue on their claws:
http://www.softpaws.com/about.html
http://www.softpaws.com/colors.html
http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm (a good site that shows nail trimming 
and
soft paws application)

a GOOD cat tree with sisal rope sections will encourage her to scratch on HER 
special
place, I highly recommend Pussicat Cat Trees:
http://pussicat.com/
This is the model I have, and my cats LOVE it, I change the shape of it every 
few
months, as they are completely modular:
http://www.pussicat.com/product_info.php?products_id=94osCsid=01784834d1aaa85d2221fd10ae3e7f60

And here, please make SURE your husband sees these sites:
http://maxshouse.com/facts_about_declawing.htm
http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2pet=2838151
http://www.stopdeclaw.com/
http://www.declawhallofshame.com/
http://www.pawproject.com/html/cases.asp?SortOrder=2

Good cat foods:
(I can tell you, my cats like the Wellness canned the best, and the California
Natural Dry and Innova Evo Dry the best)
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=5brand%5Fid=9mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=9mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89

http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=5brand%5Fid=3mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=3mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89

http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=5brand%5Fid=630mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=630mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89

http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=5brand%5Fid=913mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=913mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html




Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pizza crust wont hurt him if there's no garlic or onion on it. That's one of my 
cat's
favorite treats! You can even leave a little sauce and cheese on it for him.

A little belly wont hurt anything, morbid obesity can though. You just have to 
find a
balance. A good rule is, if he starts to have trouble licking his own bum 
because
he's too fat to reach, it's time to diet!

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html




Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread Jennifer Madon
lol  that is funny.  forgive the poor typing.  i am one handed now, 
cuddle time.  he loves to bite me and chew my fingers, is this like 
teething?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pizza crust wont hurt him if there's no garlic or onion on it. That's one of my 
cat's
favorite treats! You can even leave a little sauce and cheese on it for him.

A little belly wont hurt anything, morbid obesity can though. You just have to 
find a
balance. A good rule is, if he starts to have trouble licking his own bum 
because
he's too fat to reach, it's time to diet!

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html



  




Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread Jennifer Madon
I have to tell you that one of your links puts a little running cat in 
the top right corner... I have to wait till later to check that site out 
because every time I pull it up, Midnight sticks his nose to the 
screen.  It must be a girl cat! LOL


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Put his scratching posts close to the places he is currently scratching, and 
get some
double sided tape to stick on the places you don't want him to scratch, cats 
HATE
tape and sticky stuff. They make a product specifically for this if you can't 
find
any good double sided tape locally:
http://www.stickypaws.com/
http://www.stickypaws.com/sitedirector/site/department.cfm?id=BC2D70F9-BAD4-4137-808F21F509D31AF4killnav=1

If the tape doesn't work, there's ALWAYS Soft Paws, which are little claw caps 
that
you glue on their claws:
http://www.softpaws.com/about.html
http://www.softpaws.com/colors.html
http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm (a good site that shows nail trimming 
and
soft paws application)

a GOOD cat tree with sisal rope sections will encourage her to scratch on HER 
special
place, I highly recommend Pussicat Cat Trees:
http://pussicat.com/
This is the model I have, and my cats LOVE it, I change the shape of it every 
few
months, as they are completely modular:
http://www.pussicat.com/product_info.php?products_id=94osCsid=01784834d1aaa85d2221fd10ae3e7f60

And here, please make SURE your husband sees these sites:
http://maxshouse.com/facts_about_declawing.htm
http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2pet=2838151
http://www.stopdeclaw.com/
http://www.declawhallofshame.com/
http://www.pawproject.com/html/cases.asp?SortOrder=2

Good cat foods:
(I can tell you, my cats like the Wellness canned the best, and the California
Natural Dry and Innova Evo Dry the best)
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=5brand%5Fid=9mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=9mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89

http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=5brand%5Fid=3mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=3mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89

http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=5brand%5Fid=630mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=630mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89

http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=5brand%5Fid=913mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=913mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html



  




Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah, it's pretty scary to see too, a big pile of worms in a pool of pink tinged
vomit, seen it a few times... and makes me gag every time... I can assist in 
surgery,
but roundworms make me sick! One site sums it up when it says nothing seems to
inspire as much dread and loathing as a pile of roundworms left by the infected 
cat,
another site says roundworms usually result in a panicked call to the 
veterinarian,
LOL! I have a lump in my throat just talking about it now! GAK, blah, GAG!
http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/roundworms.html
http://www.dr-dan.com/roundwor.htm
http://www.pets.ca/encyclopedia/roundworm_cat.htm
My own horrifying experience tells me the pink tinged vomit thing... the sites 
don't
mention it, but EVERY time I've had roundworms in a cat, the vomit has been pink
tinged.
http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/Photos/CanineRoundworms.jpg (and yes, they ARE
zoonotic, GAK, GAG!)

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html




Re: Newbie question (running cats)

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://ucat.us/smallcat.gif this one? If he likes it, you can use it to 
entertain him
anytime you want! I have a cheetah too: http://ucat.us/bigcat.gif

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html




Re: Newbie question (running cats)

2007-01-18 Thread Jennifer Madon

LOL  Midnight personally claims you as his best internet friend!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://ucat.us/smallcat.gif this one? If he likes it, you can use it to 
entertain him
anytime you want! I have a cheetah too: http://ucat.us/bigcat.gif

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html



  




Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread elizabeth trent

Hiya Jennifer -- and welcome!

Sounds like you've got a real snugglemuffin there :0)  I bet he pulls
through this.  Five of my eight cats were strays...varying degrees of
'feral'...some are still very feral to anyone but me.  A couple were very
sick and beat up when they came to me and informed me that they would live
here.

Some of the best investments I ever made for the kids were those
multi-leveled 'kitty condos' (you can find them on sale sometimes - also on
ebay).  provides kitty a great place to climb...great exercise for
them...and it gives them a great place to do their clawing (which is also a
scent-marking thing with them).  The ones with Sisal rope are especially
good.

If you have places you don't want them to claw or leave their
scent...Feliway spray works very well for us.  It's expensive - but '
entirelypet.com' has the best price i've seen.  It's a cat pheromone spray
(we can't smell it - also comes in a diffuser)...but it signals kitty to
be peaceful and calm and they won't feel they need to do any scent-type
marking.

Sounds like he has a wonderful personality.

Oh - another tip...I found these flat scratching board things at
PetSmart...about 2ft long and maybe 6 inches wide covered in that sisal
rope.  They go nuts over thosebut what really makes them go crazy is if
I give them a spritz with this concentrated cat nip spray that you can find
there too.  Not all cats respond to catnip -- it's a gene...kinda like
tongue rolling in people...some got it - some don'tbut - if you're
snugglemuffin has it - he'll go nuts.

Some may disagree with me -- but if you really must discipline kitty...a
spritz of water from a spray bottle will usually do the trick.  after one or
two spritzes...all you have to do is pick up the bottle and shake it.  If
you are persistent...it doesn't take long to learn what 'no' means.  I
usually lower my voice when I use that word but I don't have to say it very
often.

Kiss midnight for me and please keep us posted on how he's doing.  Thank you
for caring enough to realize that FeVL+ doesn't diminish the value of his
dear life.  Even if he doesn't throw the virus, he could still have a good
quality of life for a long time.

elizabeth



On 1/18/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You are correct about the antibiotics were for the abscess, and the vet
seemed sure they were cat bites.  I never heard about a faint pos., just
pos.  The vet guessed he is about 8 months.  He has no symptoms at all.
The vet said that he was shocked when the test came back pos.  They
didn't do any other tests or shots that day because he had a fever (due
to the abscess ).
As far as the puddles, they don't smell at all!  He has gotten SOOO far
since he has been here.  He eats great.  He also drinks water a lot,
well a lot to me but I am new to cats.  He does use his litter box, he
doesn't appear to strain and he doesn't cry.  Some times he walks around
me and just meows for no apparent reason.  I think he just wants to be
held.  What a lap cat!  He is sleeping on the desk beside me now.  He is
very spunky.  At night he is calm and loving, but at 5 AM, any things
that moves is fair game for a pouncing! LOL.  Any tips for getting him
to use a scratching board instead of my couch and office chair.  I am
firmly against declawing him but my husband is threating it.  I told him
I would definger him if he did!  Can you recommend a food, I am sure you
would scold me over his current food.  But take it easy on me, I am new
to this! LOL
Midnight will be neutered somewhere around the end of Jan. and beginning
of Feb.  I will make the appointment of Tues.  Oh and stress free may be
hard.  We have 3 kids, but he seems to love them.  They are crazy
amongst themselves but the all calm down and get very gentle when
dealing with him.  All they know is that he is sick and very special.
Thanks again
Jennifer

Nina wrote:
 Hi Jennifer,
 I'm glad you found us and so very glad Midnight found you.  I take it
 the antibiotics were for the abscess on his tail and not because he is
 displaying any other symptoms of illness?  Did the infection clear up
 okay?  How old does the vet think Midnight is?  Adult, healthy cats
 have a much better chance of clearing the virus than an older, sickly,
 or young kitten.  Because he was a stray, there's no way for you to
 know when he contracted the disease.  It may have happened when he got
 the abscess on his tail.  I'm not sure why your vet is having you
 retest in only 3 weeks.   If Midnight is in the process of clearing
 felv, a three week interval between testing is probably too soon to be
 reliable.  Usually it is recommended to wait 3 to 6 months.  Did the
 vet tell you it was a faint pos?  If the vet suspects the test was a
 false pos, then a retest in 3 weeks makes more sense.  It is also
 usually recommended to retest using an IFA, (not the in house ELISA).
 When you are ready to have him neutered, please ask us about protocols
 and procedures to help 

Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread Belinda
 Wow those scare me the bases look way too small, those look 
dangerous to me, they look like they would tip too easily.  I say this 
because I know someone whose cat ran up one of those with the small base 
and it tipped over and broke the cats neck, I would be afraid use 
anything like that.  The ones I use have bases that look much bigger and 
my guys still make them move when they run up them.  I have them up 
against the wall and every time KC runs up it it bangs against the 
wall.  We made one for my sister and the base is 38 inches wide.  On the 
ones I have the bases are 34 and I still think those are too small 
that's why I have them against the wall.  Next one I have I'll make too 
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Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread Marylyn
Re couch protection:  Get some lacy knit throws and cover the areas that he 
is likely to scratch--arms and exposed back.  My cats don't like getting 
their claws hung in the throws.


Trim the nails.  If you never have, it is easy, especially since he is 
young.  Get the vet to show you.


Spray the couch with Feliway.  It should help.

You really can teach a cat where to scratch and where not to.  You just have 
to watch and stop it now.


Get a scratching post made of a material you do not have in the house.  If 
you have carpet and get a post made with carpet you are telling him he can 
scratch anything that has carpet.  I have a log home so Dixie gets cardboard 
(Wal-Mart/Target/Meijer) to scratch on and I will make her a post of burlap 
and jute.  Obviously I don't want her scratching wood.


Do not consider Midnight sick.  If you do you will lose the pleasure of 
having him there.  Dixie Louise tested positive almost 2 years ago and has 
no problems other than some with her teeth.  Those may or may not be related 
to FeLV.  There are some gels you can use on the teeth that my alternative 
vets swear by.  If you start him on them now and maybe get him used to 
having his teeth brushed, you can head off some problems.  Relish the love 
you are sharing.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Newbie question


You are correct about the antibiotics were for the abscess, and the vet 
seemed sure they were cat bites.  I never heard about a faint pos., just 
pos.  The vet guessed he is about 8 months.  He has no symptoms at all. 
The vet said that he was shocked when the test came back pos.  They didn't 
do any other tests or shots that day because he had a fever (due to the 
abscess ). As far as the puddles, they don't smell at all!  He has gotten 
SOOO far since he has been here.  He eats great.  He also drinks water a 
lot, well a lot to me but I am new to cats.  He does use his litter box, 
he doesn't appear to strain and he doesn't cry.  Some times he walks 
around me and just meows for no apparent reason.  I think he just wants to 
be held.  What a lap cat!  He is sleeping on the desk beside me now.  He 
is very spunky.  At night he is calm and loving, but at 5 AM, any things 
that moves is fair game for a pouncing! LOL.  Any tips for getting him to 
use a scratching board instead of my couch and office chair.  I am firmly 
against declawing him but my husband is threating it.  I told him I would 
definger him if he did!  Can you recommend a food, I am sure you would 
scold me over his current food.  But take it easy on me, I am new to this! 
LOL Midnight will be neutered somewhere around the end of Jan. and 
beginning of Feb.  I will make the appointment of Tues.  Oh and stress 
free may be hard.  We have 3 kids, but he seems to love them.  They are 
crazy amongst themselves but the all calm down and get very gentle when 
dealing with him.  All they know is that he is sick and very special.

Thanks again
Jennifer

Nina wrote:

Hi Jennifer,
I'm glad you found us and so very glad Midnight found you.  I take it the 
antibiotics were for the abscess on his tail and not because he is 
displaying any other symptoms of illness?  Did the infection clear up 
okay?  How old does the vet think Midnight is?  Adult, healthy cats have 
a much better chance of clearing the virus than an older, sickly, or 
young kitten.  Because he was a stray, there's no way for you to know 
when he contracted the disease.  It may have happened when he got the 
abscess on his tail.  I'm not sure why your vet is having you retest in 
only 3 weeks.   If Midnight is in the process of clearing felv, a three 
week interval between testing is probably too soon to be reliable. 
Usually it is recommended to wait 3 to 6 months.  Did the vet tell you it 
was a faint pos?  If the vet suspects the test was a false pos, then a 
retest in 3 weeks makes more sense.  It is also usually recommended to 
retest using an IFA, (not the in house ELISA).
When you are ready to have him neutered, please ask us about protocols 
and procedures to help reduce the stress on his body during surgery. 
Felv cats need to be kept as stress free as possible and fed as high a 
quality diet as you can.
I'm not sure what these puddles on the floor might be.  Do they smell 
like urine?  Has he been using his litter box?  Have you noticed any 
straining, or does he cry when he urinates?  It sounds more like it might 
be vomit to me.  Have you mentioned the slight blood

Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread Marylyn
Just a word of warning:  Do not let your vet do lots of vaccinations, 
worming etc at one time.  This will put a lot of stress on Midnight's body 
and is not necessary.  There are various opinions on vaccinations. 
Personally I believe, like my alterative vets, that we over vaccinate.  This 
is particularly hard on a cat that has been on the streets and may be a 
throw away, is adjusting to a new life, is getting neutered, being handled 
by vets and their techs ...put yourself in Midnight's place and 
take these things very slowly.  Consider what you do in light of where 
Midnight is going to live (entirely indoors I assume) and the chances of 
exposure.  Please consider worming him long before you have him neutered 
too.  Worms can cause all sorts of problems, many of which are hard to 
detect.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: Newbie question


Pink tinged watery stuff is USUALLY vomit, and it turns pink when they 
have
roundworms. I'd have him dewormed, if you haven't already (and don't freak 
out too
much if you see spaghetti-like worms in the pink stuff somewhere down the 
road). It
COULD be urine, but that would indicate an infection... the only thing 
that turns
urine pink is blood, and the only way you get blood in urine is infection 
(unless
he's been recently cathetered, in which case it could be trauma to the 
urethra). You
can try to see if it's pee... wait for him to go to the litterbox, and as 
soon as he
comes out, wipe his privates with a piece of white toilet paper, if he's 
just peed,
you should get a little drop, and if it's pink, you know that's the 
orifice it's

coming from.

I think the house retest would be OK, if ALL you are hoping to do is check 
to see if
it was a bad result (like due to human error). If you're retesting to see 
if he's
throw the virus off, that's too son, and as others stated, you should use 
an IFA

test, not the in house ELISA SNAP test.

The very most important thing to do to care for FELV+ cats is to feed the 
very BEST
food you can afford. Either homemade, or premium brands like Wellness, 
Innova, or
Chicken Soup for the Cat brands. A lot of people supplement with Lysine 
and vitamin
C. Plus lots give low dose oral interferon alpha. here's more info on 
that:

http://www.islandpharmacy.com/site/1420401/page/769212
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/9352/interferon.html
http://www.amarbio.com/03productcandidate.html

And here's my page with more links about FELV:
http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html

Here is the webpage for all of the popular treatments for FELV:
http://www.felineleukemia.org/treatmnt.html

Like I said, DIET should come first though!

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html







Re: Newbie question

2007-01-18 Thread Marylyn
He is giving you cat kisses.  Wait till he starts licking you.  By the way, 
don't let him lick in one place too much.  I let Dixie and. very 
unintentionally, she took off a lot of skin.  It took several weeks for the 
places to heal.  Because I was enjoying the bath and her attention and 
because of the rough little tongue, I did not notice the problem until much 
later when they finally became very uncomfortable.  Now I just move my hand 
every so often.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Newbie question


lol  that is funny.  forgive the poor typing.  i am one handed now, cuddle 
time.  he loves to bite me and chew my fingers, is this like teething?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pizza crust wont hurt him if there's no garlic or onion on it. That's one 
of my cat's
favorite treats! You can even leave a little sauce and cheese on it for 
him.


A little belly wont hurt anything, morbid obesity can though. You just 
have to find a
balance. A good rule is, if he starts to have trouble licking his own bum 
because

he's too fat to reach, it's time to diet!

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html