Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-16 Thread Susan Hoffman
  Please cross-post selectively (anyone a member of the Homeless Cat Network?):
   
  Talked to Sally and here's the situation:
   
  She has not been cited, nothing in writing, yet.  She is very worried about 
two FeLV+ kittens and two FIV+ cats.  IF they are seized they would likely be 
put down immediately.  What she needs most right now is some place to put these 
cats for 4 to 6 weeks to see if the situation will blow over.  (She could use 
adoption assistance or additional foster space to move out some other cats too 
but the positives are her biggest concern.)
   
  Four years ago she had a run-in with animal control but it did just go away.  
Theyb gave her 60 days to get her numbers down and just never came back.  So it 
may go away again.  She does not want to antagonize them by having an attorney 
make inquiries on her behalf and I tend to agree.
   
  She also needs someone computer-savvy in the San Jose area.  We are setting 
her up with a functioning computer and can at least set up a dial up connection 
for her before she takes the computer home.  But she's paying for ATT DSL at 
home and needs someone in the San Jose area who can get that working for her.

 
  On 3/12/08, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   there ARE good a/c 
officers out there--and when we find them, it is VITAL that we let them know 
how much they are appreciated. i even know of a couple in texas. too often, 
however, they are NOT like what people see on animal planet, unless the 
management is committed to power-within, and not power-over, which is not the 
most usual attitude in law enforcement. 

send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please 

MC   

  On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll try her again this evening too.
   
  Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their local 
feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in.  Cats are actually pulled from 
animal control and returned to their colonies around here.  By comparison with 
what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive.
 
  

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hopefully she will call you back.  I'm glad there is good AC somewhere.  

  On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried calling last 
night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but have not heard back from 
her.
   
  I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really good 
rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac really 
impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August and in the 
current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.  

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern.  I'm sure Sally 
will appreciate any help or advice you can give her.  I have an unreasonable 
fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo.  Sally 
doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking steps 
to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters for the 
cats in her possession. 
Say a prayer everybody,
Nina

SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or 
whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter if I 
absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil 
hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
 
   
  Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.  
   
  Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I 
can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
   
  Kelley

Subject: 
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area  From: 
Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date: 
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT)  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws on the 
books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally is in the San 
Jose area, about an hour south of me.  
   
  I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law pretty 
well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to have a grace 
period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make 
arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.







-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Please help Clarissa!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart

http://www.change.org/rescuties 
 






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Maybe That'll Make The Difference

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MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-16 Thread Gloria Lane
I could cross post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - list owner is in southern  
California, as I recall, great guy. Think that's ok?


Gloria



On Mar 16, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

Please cross-post selectively (anyone a member of the Homeless Cat  
Network?):


Talked to Sally and here's the situation:

She has not been cited, nothing in writing, yet.  She is very  
worried about two FeLV+ kittens and two FIV+ cats.  IF they are  
seized they would likely be put down immediately.  What she needs  
most right now is some place to put these cats for 4 to 6 weeks to  
see if the situation will blow over.  (She could use adoption  
assistance or additional foster space to move out some other cats  
too but the positives are her biggest concern.)


Four years ago she had a run-in with animal control but it did just  
go away.  Theyb gave her 60 days to get her numbers down and just  
never came back.  So it may go away again.  She does not want to  
antagonize them by having an attorney make inquiries on her behalf  
and I tend to agree.


She also needs someone computer-savvy in the San Jose area.  We are  
setting her up with a functioning computer and can at least set up a  
dial up connection for her before she takes the computer home.  But  
she's paying for ATT DSL at home and needs someone in the San Jose  
area who can get that working for her.



On 3/12/08, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there ARE good a/c officers out there--and when we find them, it is  
VITAL that we let them know how much they are appreciated. i even  
know of a couple in texas. too often, however, they are NOT like  
what people see on animal planet, unless the management is  
committed to power-within, and not power-over, which is not the most  
usual attitude in law enforcement.


send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please

MC


On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

I'll try her again this evening too.

Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify  
their local feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in.  Cats are  
actually pulled from animal control and returned to their colonies  
around here.  By comparison with what I hear about elsewhere, it's  
really impressive.




Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hopefully she will call you back.  I'm glad there is good AC  
somewhere.


On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and  
number but have not heard back from her.


I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen  
really good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and  
my local ac really impressed me with their light touch during my  
house fire in August and in the current dealings with a really ugly  
hoarder situation.


Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern.  I'm sure  
Sally will appreciate any help or advice you can give her.  I have  
an unreasonable fear of animal control, I think of them like I would  
the gestapo.  Sally doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might,  
but she is quickly taking steps to address any concerns they may  
have and to locate additional fosters for the cats in her possession.

Say a prayer everybody,
Nina

SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them,  
or whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For  
that matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep  
AC from getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last  
resort...



Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.

Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to  
cry on I can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone


Kelley



Subject: Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific  
laws on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state  
laws.  Sally is in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me.


I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law  
pretty well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely  
to have a grace period to improve conditions and network with other  
rescues to make arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out  
what's really going on.







--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Please help Clarissa!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart

http://www.change.org/rescuties





--

Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors

Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-16 Thread Kelley Saveika
I wish I could help, all I can do is lend moral support.

I would still hide any I didn't want stolen under color of law, but I'm
understandably a bit paranoid.

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Please cross-post selectively (anyone a member of the Homeless Cat
 Network?):

 Talked to Sally and here's the situation:

 She has not been cited, nothing in writing, yet.  She is very worried
 about two FeLV+ kittens and two FIV+ cats.  IF they are seized they would
 likely be put down immediately.  What she needs most right now is some place
 to put these cats for 4 to 6 weeks to see if the situation will blow over.
 (She could use adoption assistance or additional foster space to move out
 some other cats too but the positives are her biggest concern.)

 Four years ago she had a run-in with animal control but it did just go
 away.  Theyb gave her 60 days to get her numbers down and just never came
 back.  So it may go away again.  She does not want to antagonize them by
 having an attorney make inquiries on her behalf and I tend to agree.

 She also needs someone computer-savvy in the San Jose area.  We are
 setting her up with a functioning computer and can at least set up a dial up
 connection for her before she takes the computer home.  But she's paying for
 ATT DSL at home and needs someone in the San Jose area who can get that
 working for her.


 On 3/12/08, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  there ARE good a/c officers out there--and when we find them, it is
  VITAL that we let them know how much they are appreciated. i even know of a
  couple in texas. too often, however, they are NOT like what people see
  on animal planet, unless the management is committed to power-within, and
  not power-over, which is not the most usual attitude in law enforcement.
 
  send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please
 
  MC
 
  On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   I'll try her again this evening too.
  
   Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their
   local feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in.  Cats are actually
   pulled from animal control and returned to their colonies around here.  By
   comparison with what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive.
  
  
  
   *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
  
   Hopefully she will call you back.  I'm glad there is good AC
   somewhere.
  
   On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and
number but have not heard back from her.
   
I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen
really good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my 
local
ac really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in 
August
and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.
   
*Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
   
Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern.  I'm sure
Sally will appreciate any help or advice you can give her.  I have an
unreasonable fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the
gestapo.  Sally doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is
quickly taking steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate
additional fosters for the cats in her possession.
Say a prayer everybody,
Nina
   
 SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them,
or whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that
matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from
getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
   
   
Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.
   
Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to
cry on I can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
   
Kelley
   
   
   Subject:
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area  From:
Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date:
   
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT)  To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific
laws on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.
Sally is in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me.
   
I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law
pretty well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to 
have a
grace period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to 
make
arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going 
on.
   
   
   
  
  
   --
   Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
  
   http://www.rescuties.org
  
   Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
  
   http://www.amazon.com

Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but have 
not heard back from her.
   
  I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really good 
rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac really 
impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August and in the 
current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.  

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern.  I'm sure Sally will 
appreciate any help or advice you can give her.  I have an unreasonable fear of 
animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo.  Sally doesn't seem 
to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking steps to address any 
concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters for the cats in her 
possession. 
Say a prayer everybody,
Nina

SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or 
whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter if I 
absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil 
hands on them, but that would be a last resort...

   
  Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.  
   
  Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I 
can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
   
  Kelley

Subject: 
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area  From: 
Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date: 
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT)  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws on the 
books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally is in the San 
Jose area, about an hour south of me.  
   
  I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law pretty 
well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to have a grace 
period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make 
arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.




Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-12 Thread Kelley Saveika
Hopefully she will call you back.  I'm glad there is good AC somewhere.

On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but
 have not heard back from her.

 I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really
 good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac
 really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August
 and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.

 *Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern.  I'm sure Sally
 will appreciate any help or advice you can give her.  I have an unreasonable
 fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo.  Sally
 doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking
 steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters
 for the cats in her possession.
 Say a prayer everybody,
 Nina

  SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or
 whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter
 if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting
 their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort...


 Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.

 Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I
 can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone

 Kelley


Subject:
 Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area  From:
 Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date:
 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT)  To:
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   To:
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws on
 the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally is in
 the San Jose area, about an hour south of me.

 I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law pretty
 well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to have a grace
 period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make
 arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.





-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Please help Clarissa!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart

http://www.change.org/rescuties


Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
I'll try her again this evening too.
   
  Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their local 
feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in.  Cats are actually pulled from 
animal control and returned to their colonies around here.  By comparison with 
what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive.
   
  

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hopefully she will call you back.  I'm glad there is good AC somewhere.  

  On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried calling last 
night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but have not heard back from 
her.
   
  I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really good 
rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac really 
impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August and in the 
current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.  

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern.  I'm sure Sally 
will appreciate any help or advice you can give her.  I have an unreasonable 
fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo.  Sally 
doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking steps 
to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters for the 
cats in her possession. 
Say a prayer everybody,
Nina

SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or 
whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter if I 
absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil 
hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
 
   
  Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.  
   
  Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I 
can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
   
  Kelley

Subject: 
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area  From: 
Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date: 
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT)  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws on the 
books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally is in the San 
Jose area, about an hour south of me.  
   
  I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law pretty 
well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to have a grace 
period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make 
arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.







-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Please help Clarissa!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart

http://www.change.org/rescuties 


Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-12 Thread MaryChristine
there ARE good a/c officers out there--and when we find them, it is VITAL
that we let them know how much they are appreciated. i even know of a couple
in texas. too often, however, they are NOT like what people see on
animal planet, unless the management is committed to power-within, and not
power-over, which is not the most usual attitude in law enforcement.

send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please

MC

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I'll try her again this evening too.

 Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their
 local feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in.  Cats are actually
 pulled from animal control and returned to their colonies around here.  By
 comparison with what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive.



 *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Hopefully she will call you back.  I'm glad there is good AC somewhere.

 On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number
  but have not heard back from her.
 
  I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really
  good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac
  really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August
  and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.
 
  *Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern.  I'm sure Sally
  will appreciate any help or advice you can give her.  I have an unreasonable
  fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo.  Sally
  doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking
  steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters
  for the cats in her possession.
  Say a prayer everybody,
  Nina
 
   SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or
  whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter
  if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting
  their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
 
 
  Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.
 
  Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on
  I can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
 
  Kelley
 
 
 Subject:
  Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area  From:
  Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date:
 
  Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT)  To:
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   To:
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws
  on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally is
  in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me.
 
  I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law pretty
  well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to have a grace
  period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make
  arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.
 
 
 


 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

 Check out our Memsaic!
 http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9

 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

 Please help Clarissa!

 http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart

 http://www.change.org/rescuties





-- 

Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892


Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-12 Thread Kelley Saveika
If I ever encounter one, I will certainly do that.




On 3/12/08, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 there ARE good a/c officers out there--and when we find them, it is VITAL
 that we let them know how much they are appreciated. i even know of a couple
 in texas. too often, however, they are NOT like what people see on
 animal planet, unless the management is committed to power-within, and not
 power-over, which is not the most usual attitude in law enforcement.

 send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please

 MC

 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  I'll try her again this evening too.
 
  Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their
  local feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in.  Cats are actually
  pulled from animal control and returned to their colonies around here.  By
  comparison with what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive.
 
 
 
  *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  Hopefully she will call you back.  I'm glad there is good AC somewhere.
 
 
  On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number
   but have not heard back from her.
  
   I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen
   really good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my 
   local
   ac really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in 
   August
   and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.
  
   *Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
  
   Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern.  I'm sure
   Sally will appreciate any help or advice you can give her.  I have an
   unreasonable fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the
   gestapo.  Sally doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is
   quickly taking steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate
   additional fosters for the cats in her possession.
   Say a prayer everybody,
   Nina
  
SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or
   whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter
   if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting
   their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
  
  
   Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.
  
   Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry
   on I can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
  
   Kelley
  
  
  Subject:
   Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area  From:
   Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date:
  
   Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT)  To:
   felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   To:
   felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws
   on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally 
   is
   in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me.
  
   I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law
   pretty well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to 
   have a
   grace period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make
   arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-11 Thread Kelley Saveika
Nina,

SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or
whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter
if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting
their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort...

Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.

Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I
can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone

Kelley

On 3/11/08, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello All,
 I just got off the phone with Sally Foster.  Old timers may remember her
 from the list.  We became friends years ago when I first joined the list and
 Sally was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on her
 shoulder.  Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years.  She's
 always been so helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open.  She
 got into a discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best way
 to care for kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the
 ones that turned her into animal control.  Yes, here we go with another
 nightmare.  I think she said she had one officer visit the first time, (they
 didn't enter the house, just talked with her about the conditions), then
 they returned this week with a second officer and came inside.  They were
 making noises like the conditions were too crowded, but they didn't indicate
 what might be coming next.  I know that Sally has dealt with ac before and
 that she has some sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't remember
 if it's an actual permit or just verbal.

 Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals in
 the bay area that might be able to help her foster cats.  Sally's computer
 is down so any communication will have to be by phone or through my email.
 Sally's phone number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be able to lend
 her some support or suggestions.  I'm sure that even some kind words would
 be appreciated at this point.  She's so disheartened thinking that people
 she trusted may have put her cats in jeopardy.

 Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while
 asymptomatic, have tested positive...  One is a friendly, outgoing orange
 tuxy/tabby boy that has tested pos for fiv.  A marking on his face looks
 like a Mercedes Benz emblem so she's been calling him Benz.  The other two
 are littermates that tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago.  They are 7 mos
 old.  The little boy had swollen glands and the little girl had runny eyes,
 but since she's started them on feline interferon injections they are
 symptom free and playful.  She's a long haired tortie and he's an orange
 tuxy/tabby.

 Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been away
 from the list for so long.  Please cross post to anyone that you think might
 be able to help.  I do miss you all and wish you so many blessings.  Some
 day I hope to have the strength and energy to participate the way I used to.
 Nina







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Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-11 Thread Susan Hoffman
California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws on the 
books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally is in the San 
Jose area, about an hour south of me.  
   
  I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law pretty 
well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to have a grace 
period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make 
arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nina,
  
SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or whatever, 
but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter if I 
absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil 
hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
   
  Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.  
   
  Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I 
can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
   
  Kelley
 
  On 3/11/08, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All,
I just got off the phone with Sally Foster.  Old timers may remember her from 
the list.  We became friends years ago when I first joined the list and Sally 
was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on her shoulder.  
Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years.  She's always been so 
helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open.  She got into a 
discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best way to care for 
kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the ones that turned 
her into animal control.  Yes, here we go with another nightmare.  I think she 
said she had one officer visit the first time, (they didn't enter the house, 
just talked with her about the conditions), then they returned this week with a 
second officer and came inside.  They were making noises like the conditions 
were too crowded, but they didn't indicate what might be coming next.  I know 
that Sally has dealt with ac before and that she has some
 sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't remember if it's an actual 
permit or just verbal.

Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals in the bay 
area that might be able to help her foster cats.  Sally's computer is down so 
any communication will have to be by phone or through my email.  Sally's phone 
number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be able to lend her some support 
or suggestions.  I'm sure that even some kind words would be appreciated at 
this point.  She's so disheartened thinking that people she trusted may have 
put her cats in jeopardy.  

Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while asymptomatic, 
have tested positive...  One is a friendly, outgoing orange tuxy/tabby boy that 
has tested pos for fiv.  A marking on his face looks like a Mercedes Benz 
emblem so she's been calling him Benz.  The other two are littermates that 
tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago.  They are 7 mos old.  The little boy had 
swollen glands and the little girl had runny eyes, but since she's started them 
on feline interferon injections they are symptom free and playful.  She's a 
long haired tortie and he's an orange tuxy/tabby.

Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been away from the 
list for so long.  Please cross post to anyone that you think might be able to 
help.  I do miss you all and wish you so many blessings.  Some day I hope to 
have the strength and energy to participate the way I used to.
Nina


 




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Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Please help Clarissa!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart

http://www.change.org/rescuties 


Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-11 Thread Kelley Saveika
Um, I just yesterday saw a raid in LA that almost made me vomit.
Literally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_kJ9nGiVis

Lots on this case in this blog:

http://laanimalwatch.blogspot.com/

California is definitely not on my list of safe places to own animals.

But I don't know about San Jose.


On 3/11/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws on
 the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally is in
 the San Jose area, about an hour south of me.

 I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law pretty
 well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to have a grace
 period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make
 arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.

 *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Nina,

 SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or
 whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter
 if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting
 their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort...

 Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.

 Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I
 can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone

 Kelley

 On 3/11/08, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello All,
  I just got off the phone with Sally Foster.  Old timers may remember her
  from the list.  We became friends years ago when I first joined the list and
  Sally was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on her
  shoulder.  Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years.  She's
  always been so helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open.  She
  got into a discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best way
  to care for kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the
  ones that turned her into animal control.  Yes, here we go with another
  nightmare.  I think she said she had one officer visit the first time, (they
  didn't enter the house, just talked with her about the conditions), then
  they returned this week with a second officer and came inside.  They were
  making noises like the conditions were too crowded, but they didn't indicate
  what might be coming next.  I know that Sally has dealt with ac before and
  that she has some sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't remember
  if it's an actual permit or just verbal.
 
  Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals in
  the bay area that might be able to help her foster cats.  Sally's computer
  is down so any communication will have to be by phone or through my email.
  Sally's phone number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be able to lend
  her some support or suggestions.  I'm sure that even some kind words would
  be appreciated at this point.  She's so disheartened thinking that people
  she trusted may have put her cats in jeopardy.
 
  Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while
  asymptomatic, have tested positive...  One is a friendly, outgoing orange
  tuxy/tabby boy that has tested pos for fiv.  A marking on his face looks
  like a Mercedes Benz emblem so she's been calling him Benz.  The other two
  are littermates that tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago.  They are 7 mos
  old.  The little boy had swollen glands and the little girl had runny eyes,
  but since she's started them on feline interferon injections they are
  symptom free and playful.  She's a long haired tortie and he's an orange
  tuxy/tabby.
 
  Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been away
  from the list for so long.  Please cross post to anyone that you think might
  be able to help.  I do miss you all and wish you so many blessings.  Some
  day I hope to have the strength and energy to participate the way I used to.
  Nina
 
 
 
 



 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

 Check out our Memsaic!
 http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9

 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

 Please help Clarissa!

 http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart

 http://www.change.org/rescuties





-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Please help Clarissa!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart

http://www.change.org/rescuties


Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-11 Thread Susan Hoffman
southern California has had a lot of problems.  A friend was raided a year and 
a half ago.  There are a couple of law suits in play down there already.  
However, the San Francisco/Bay Area, which includes San Jose, is very different.
   
  California is a big state.  The more rural/agricultural areas have a lot of 
issues vis a vis rescues.  The Bay Area, on the other hand, is very rescue 
friendly.  (For example, we have a very bad hoarder situation in my area where 
ac actually asked rescues to intervene.  No cats have been seized by ac.  We, 
i.e. local rescues, are working on it.  And ac is giving us the space and 
support to be effective.)
   
  I'll call Sally tonight and see what's going on.

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Um, I just yesterday saw a raid in LA that almost made me vomit.   
Literally.
   
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_kJ9nGiVis
   
  Lots on this case in this blog:
   
  http://laanimalwatch.blogspot.com/
   
  California is definitely not on my list of safe places to own animals.  
   
  But I don't know about San Jose.  

 
  On 3/11/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: California and Texas 
are really different.  We have very specific laws on the books governing 
seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally is in the San Jose area, 
about an hour south of me.  
   
  I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law pretty 
well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to have a grace 
period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make 
arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.   

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Nina,
  
SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or whatever, 
but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter if I 
absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil 
hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
   
  Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.  
   
  Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I 
can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
   
  Kelley
 
  On 3/11/08, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All,
I just got off the phone with Sally Foster.  Old timers may remember her from 
the list.  We became friends years ago when I first joined the list and Sally 
was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on her shoulder.  
Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years.  She's always been so 
helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open.  She got into a 
discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best way to care for 
kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the ones that turned 
her into animal control.  Yes, here we go with another nightmare.  I think she 
said she had one officer visit the first time, (they didn't enter the house, 
just talked with her about the conditions), then they returned this week with a 
second officer and came inside.  They were making noises like the conditions 
were too crowded, but they didn't indicate what might be coming next.  I know 
that Sally has dealt with ac before and that she has some
 sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't remember if it's an actual 
permit or just verbal.

Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals in the bay 
area that might be able to help her foster cats.  Sally's computer is down so 
any communication will have to be by phone or through my email.  Sally's phone 
number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be able to lend her some support 
or suggestions.  I'm sure that even some kind words would be appreciated at 
this point.  She's so disheartened thinking that people she trusted may have 
put her cats in jeopardy.  

Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while asymptomatic, 
have tested positive...  One is a friendly, outgoing orange tuxy/tabby boy that 
has tested pos for fiv.  A marking on his face looks like a Mercedes Benz 
emblem so she's been calling him Benz.  The other two are littermates that 
tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago.  They are 7 mos old.  The little boy had 
swollen glands and the little girl had runny eyes, but since she's started them 
on feline interferon injections they are symptom free and playful.  She's a 
long haired tortie and he's an orange tuxy/tabby.

Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been away from the 
list for so long.  Please cross post to anyone that you think might be able to 
help.  I do miss you all and wish you so many blessings.  Some day I hope to 
have the strength and energy to participate the way I used to.
Nina


 




-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

Check out our 

Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-11 Thread Kelley Saveika
I hope the lawsuits are successful.

I hope you are able to help Sally.:)


On 3/11/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 southern California has had a lot of problems.  A friend was raided a year
 and a half ago.  There are a couple of law suits in play down there
 already.  However, the San Francisco/Bay Area, which includes San Jose, is
 very different.

 California is a big state.  The more rural/agricultural areas have a lot
 of issues vis a vis rescues.  The Bay Area, on the other hand, is very
 rescue friendly.  (For example, we have a very bad hoarder situation in my
 area where ac actually asked rescues to intervene.  No cats have been seized
 by ac.  We, i.e. local rescues, are working on it.  And ac is giving us
 the space and support to be effective.)

 I'll call Sally tonight and see what's going on.

 *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Um, I just yesterday saw a raid in LA that almost made me vomit.
 Literally.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_kJ9nGiVis

 Lots on this case in this blog:

 http://laanimalwatch.blogspot.com/

 California is definitely not on my list of safe places to own animals.

 But I don't know about San Jose.


 On 3/11/08, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws
  on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  Sally is
  in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me.
 
  I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law pretty
  well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to have a grace
  period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make
  arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out what's really going on.
 
  *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  Nina,
 
  SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or
  whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that matter
  if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting
  their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
 
  Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.
 
  Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on
  I can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
 
  Kelley
 
  On 3/11/08, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hello All,
   I just got off the phone with Sally Foster.  Old timers may remember
   her from the list.  We became friends years ago when I first joined the 
   list
   and Sally was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on 
   her
   shoulder.  Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years.  She's
   always been so helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open.  
   She
   got into a discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best 
   way
   to care for kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the
   ones that turned her into animal control.  Yes, here we go with another
   nightmare.  I think she said she had one officer visit the first time, 
   (they
   didn't enter the house, just talked with her about the conditions), then
   they returned this week with a second officer and came inside.  They were
   making noises like the conditions were too crowded, but they didn't 
   indicate
   what might be coming next.  I know that Sally has dealt with ac before and
   that she has some sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't 
   remember
   if it's an actual permit or just verbal.
  
   Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals
   in the bay area that might be able to help her foster cats.  Sally's
   computer is down so any communication will have to be by phone or through 
   my
   email.  Sally's phone number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be 
   able
   to lend her some support or suggestions.  I'm sure that even some kind 
   words
   would be appreciated at this point.  She's so disheartened thinking that
   people she trusted may have put her cats in jeopardy.
  
   Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while
   asymptomatic, have tested positive...  One is a friendly, outgoing orange
   tuxy/tabby boy that has tested pos for fiv.  A marking on his face looks
   like a Mercedes Benz emblem so she's been calling him Benz.  The other two
   are littermates that tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago.  They are 7 
   mos
   old.  The little boy had swollen glands and the little girl had runny 
   eyes,
   but since she's started them on feline interferon injections they are
   symptom free and playful.  She's a long haired tortie and he's an orange
   tuxy/tabby.
  
   Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been away
   from the list for so long.  Please cross post to anyone that you think 
   might
   be able to help.  I do miss you all and wish you so many blessings.  Some
   day I hope to have the strength and energy to participate the way I used 
 

Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-11 Thread Gloria Lane
They'll probably stop harassing rescuers, about the time when the  
cities do some other things - like stop outlawing pit bulls instead  
of punishing the bad folks who fight and misuse these dogs...  sigh.




On Mar 11, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote:


... When will AC leave rescuers alone

Kelley





Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area

2008-03-11 Thread Nina
Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern.  I'm sure Sally 
will appreciate any help or advice you can give her.  I have an 
unreasonable fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the 
gestapo.  Sally doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is 
quickly taking steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate 
additional fosters for the cats in her possession.

Say a prayer everybody,
Nina

SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS.  I don't care if she has to board them, or 
whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK.  For that 
matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from 
getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
 
Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. 
 
Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry 
on I can call her tonight.  When will AC leave rescuers alone
 
Kelley



Subject:
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
From:
Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT)
To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org


California and Texas are really different.  We have very specific laws 
on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws.  
Sally is in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. 
 
I'll call her and get some details.  I know California rescue law 
pretty well.  Let me find out what's going on here.  She is likely to 
have a grace period to improve conditions and network with other 
rescues to make arrangements for the animals.  But let me find out 
what's really going on.