Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-24 Thread catatonya
Good for you Lynne.  Congratulations!
  tonya

Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to 
adopt this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I 
have missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with 
the previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to. 
 This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in
 the near future once she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never 
had BooBoo neutered so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered 
his rapid downfall.  
   
  Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to start 
the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after 
another little lost soul.
   
  Lynne



Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-20 Thread Belinda Sauro
  Oral cancers are very hard to detect and often aren't even found 
until a dental is done, I'm thinking it was probably there, but I am 
surprised the vet didn't find it when doing the dental.  But then again 
sometimes even a dental doesn't expose them.  It is one of the scarier 
ones to me.


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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread laurieskatz
May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am glad 
you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo but 
didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

Happy Day! 
Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will see you 
there from time to time!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: newgirlexpected


  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

  Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to start 
the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after 
another little lost soul.

  Lynne

RE: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Aww Lynne congratulations to you and the little kitt!
It's just wonderful that you and your husband are opening your heart and
home again to a little furball that truly needs to be showered with love
and care. 
Keep us posted!
hugs, Kerry



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: newgirlexpected


I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to
adopt this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.
I have missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional
garbage with the previous owners of him that I just need another cat to
give a good life to.  This cat was rescued from a horrible person who
had a pet shop in town.  The humane society and SPCA went in and seized
his animals and the City took his business licence away.  This cat,
(Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut from infection, URI and it has
taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  She got final approval
from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and that's that.
She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself into
another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to
deal with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed
before releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near
future once she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never
had BooBoo neutered so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it
triggered his rapid downfall.  
 
Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to
start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to
look after another little lost soul.
 
Lynne

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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Thank you Kerry.  I am just so excited about getting her.  Probably won't be 
for another week but at least I know I'm getting her.
Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
  Subject: RE: newgirlexpected


  Aww Lynne congratulations to you and the little kitt!
  It's just wonderful that you and your husband are opening your heart and home 
again to a little furball that truly needs to be showered with love and care. 
  Keep us posted!
  hugs, Kerry



--
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:17 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: newgirlexpected


  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

  Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to start 
the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after 
another little lost soul.

  Lynne
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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am glad 
you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo but 
didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

  Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

  Happy Day! 
  Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will see 
you there from time to time!
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: newgirlexpected


I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to 
start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look 
after another little lost soul.

Lynne


Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Pat Kachur
Lynne - I could not be happier to hear about Snowball.  I have always found 
great joy whenever I have adopted a new kitty--for whatever reason.  So, I too 
feel she will bring much happiness to your family.  Congratulations!!!

PS - I have only had one purebred Persian - Priscilla, who was born on the 4th 
of July 1990 and left us 16 years later.  She, like many Persians did have eyes 
which needed to be cleaned often.

Pat
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

  It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

  Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am 
glad you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo 
but didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

Happy Day! 
Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will see 
you there from time to time!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: newgirlexpected


  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

  Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to 
start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look 
after another little lost soul.

  Lynne

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread dede hicken
Lynne,
Am so happy for you and you new little one.  When I
was living in Fl, the rescue groups combined to take
in over 50 persians this woman had.  They were all
sick.  It was an awful battle.

God bless you and Snowball.  It WILL make a difference
for you, and it already has for her.

Dede



--- Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have
 been trying to adopt this adorable little rescued
 cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have missed
 BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional
 garbage with the previous owners of him that I just
 need another cat to give a good life to.  This cat
 was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet
 shop in town.  The humane society and SPCA went in
 and seized his animals and the City took his
 business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so
 sick, eyes swollen shut from infection, URI and it
 has taken the foster woman a month to get her well. 
 She got final approval from the vet to be let go,
 has got her shots updated and that's that.  She had
 been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting
 myself into another potential situation here, but at
 least I know what I have to deal with if an outbreak
 occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before
 releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it
 in the near future once she has settled down in her
 new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered so
 quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it
 triggered his rapid downfall.  
 
 Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email
 and we are going to start the process of her coming
 to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after
 another little lost soul.
 
 Lynne
 


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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread MaryChristine
extreme-faced persians very often have trouble with their eyes and nasal
passages--there are many resources on the internet for those who work with
them. some need their little faces just wiped off every day, some need their
faces WASHED, others will present as if they have an infection all the time
even when they don't (combination of permanent damage to their little nasal
passages from a previous URI/lack of nasal passages to start with)--etc etc
etc. i could go on and on, as my house has been  decorated in persian
provincial since 1981.

i mentioned before that you could contact me off list re: rescuing persians;
that offer remains open re: resources.

MC

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt
 this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have
 missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the
 previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.
 This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The
 humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his
 business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut
 from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her
 well.  She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots
 updated and that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm
 getting myself into another potential situation here, but at least I know
 what I have to deal with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have
 her spayed before releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in
 the near future once she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had
 never had BooBoo neutered so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it
 triggered his rapid downfall.

 Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to
 start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to
 look after another little lost soul.

 Lynne




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Maybe That'll Make The Difference

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MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892


Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Thank you.  I'm certain I will be talking to you with your knowledge of 
persians.  To show you how much I know I wasn't even sure she was one.  I just 
thought she looked so sweet and in a small way reminded me of Boo.  The field 
worker for the humane society called me last evening to let me know that he had 
been to Boo's previous owner's house asking for info about their breeding 
practices and contacts of others who bought a cat from them.  I told him I was 
trying to adopt this cat named Snowball and it was him who told me definitively 
that she is a persian.  He in fact was the one who rescued her from this guy in 
town.  He said he had wondered where she wound up and was very happy to hear 
she was coming to us.  Snowball is kind of a poster child for neglected cats 
around here.  

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryChristine 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  extreme-faced persians very often have trouble with their eyes and nasal 
passages--there are many resources on the internet for those who work with 
them. some need their little faces just wiped off every day, some need their 
faces WASHED, others will present as if they have an infection all the time 
even when they don't (combination of permanent damage to their little nasal 
passages from a previous URI/lack of nasal passages to start with)--etc etc 
etc. i could go on and on, as my house has been  d ecorated in persian 
provincial since 1981. 

  i mentioned before that you could contact me off list re: rescuing persians; 
that offer remains open re: resources.

  MC


  On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to 
start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look 
after another little lost soul.

Lynne



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  Maybe That'll Make The Difference

  MaryChristine

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  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ICQ: 289856892 


Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread laurieskatz
Oh Lynne. I have not been on that group for awhile. That is disgusting. I have 
stopped visiting other groups where breeders lurk. 
Re Booboo, some kitties just respond poorly to anesthesia and also it can 
awaken sleeping threats. My Squeak (FeLV+) had not been under anesthesia except 
to be neutered and declawed by his prior owner. I adopted him at age 8. At 22 
he needed a dental cleaning. The vet had been scraping the tartar off his teeth 
for years but felt we needed a dental. Pre surgery blood work was perfect. Two 
months later he was dead from oral cancer. Did the anesthesia awaken a sleeping 
virus? I will never know but he was the PICTURE of health before this. I don't 
blame anyone but it makes me very sad. He was my soul mate.

I have read that Persians' flat faces make them more susceptible to upper 
respiratory problems. I suppose the eye problem susecptibility would also make 
sense.You will probably learn alot from her that you can share with others 
along the way.

Blessings. You deserve them!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:00 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

  It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

  Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am 
glad you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo 
but didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

Happy Day! 
Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will see 
you there from time to time!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: newgirlexpected


  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Dede I told the foster mom she should start telling Snowball about her new
adoptive parents and what life is going to be like with us.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


 Lynne,
 Am so happy for you and you new little one.  When I
 was living in Fl, the rescue groups combined to take
 in over 50 persians this woman had.  They were all
 sick.  It was an awful battle.

 God bless you and Snowball.  It WILL make a difference
 for you, and it already has for her.

 Dede



 --- Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have
  been trying to adopt this adorable little rescued
  cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have missed
  BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional
  garbage with the previous owners of him that I just
  need another cat to give a good life to.  This cat
  was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet
  shop in town.  The humane society and SPCA went in
  and seized his animals and the City took his
  business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so
  sick, eyes swollen shut from infection, URI and it
  has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.
  She got final approval from the vet to be let go,
  has got her shots updated and that's that.  She had
  been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting
  myself into another potential situation here, but at
  least I know what I have to deal with if an outbreak
  occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before
  releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it
  in the near future once she has settled down in her
  new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered so
  quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it
  triggered his rapid downfall.
 
  Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email
  and we are going to start the process of her coming
  to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after
  another little lost soul.
 
  Lynne
 


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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Pat it's been 19 years since we had a new kitty in the house, with the 
exception of precious Boo who only lived with us a month but has his photos 
right there front and centre with our previous boy and present guy.  I don't 
think Snowball's eyes are going to be a terrible issue.  She just needs someone 
to wipe them daily.  The foster mom says she only has to do it once a day now 
whereas in the beginning it was twice.  It seems there are persian people on 
this list who will be invaluable to us.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pat Kachur 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:06 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Lynne - I could not be happier to hear about Snowball.  I have always found 
great joy whenever I have adopted a new kitty--for whatever reason.  So, I too 
feel she will bring much happiness to your family.  Congratulations!!!

  PS - I have only had one purebred Persian - Priscilla, who was born on the 
4th of July 1990 and left us 16 years later.  She, like many Persians did have 
eyes which needed to be cleaned often.

  Pat
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am 
glad you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo 
but didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

  Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

  Happy Day! 
  Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will 
see you there from time to time!
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: newgirlexpected


I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to 
adopt this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I 
have missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with 
the previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to. 
 This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Oh Laurie, how horrible for you to lose your cat at 22 after the cleaning 
especially since he lived so long and was a positive.  How absolutely heart 
breaking.  Lennie has never had his teeth cleaned under anesthesia.  He has 
always eaten hard food and now I mix it with some softer food but everytime he 
goes to the vet they check his teeth and they're fine.  I probably will never 
have that procedure done to him unless there were an abscess or something.  Too 
risky.  Speaking of risk, I called Lennie's vet, only because they are familiar 
with him and told them what I was planning to do, getting Snowball, and should 
I have him vaccinated for the Herpes Virus.  I forget what 2 things it 
involves, and he said, oh yes, bring him in.  He'll need a physical and then 
we'll vaccinate him.  Lennie was sick last summer with a dermatitis and ear 
infection, not mites, just an ear infection.  He went nuts on Prednisone so 
came off it and once it was discovered he had a thyroid issue, many hundreds of 
dollars later, he was put on thyroid medication and you'd swear he'a a 10 year 
old again.  Anyhow, I then called BooBoo's vet and told him the story.  He 
said, do not vaccinate your old guy. It could be more harmful than benefit.  He 
also assured me that if Snowball is vaccinated and is symptom free I should 
have nothing to worry about.  If she does have an outbreak, I would need to 
isolate her until she is well again.  Lennie will not even go near her.  This I 
know.  He avoided BooBoo like the plague and has no interest in other animals 
whatsoever.  I will have to be diligent about litter boxes, dishes etc but I'm 
really not worried.  With what we have just gone through, we can handle this.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:40 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Oh Lynne. I have not been on that group for awhile. That is disgusting. I 
have stopped visiting other groups where breeders lurk. 
  Re Booboo, some kitties just respond poorly to anesthesia and also it can 
awaken sleeping threats. My Squeak (FeLV+) had not been under anesthesia except 
to be neutered and declawed by his prior owner. I adopted him at age 8. At 22 
he needed a dental cleaning. The vet had been scraping the tartar off his teeth 
for years but felt we needed a dental. Pre surgery blood work was perfect. Two 
months later he was dead from oral cancer. Did the anesthesia awaken a sleeping 
virus? I will never know but he was the PICTURE of health before this. I don't 
blame anyone but it makes me very sad. He was my soul mate.

  I have read that Persians' flat faces make them more susceptible to upper 
respiratory problems. I suppose the eye problem susecptibility would also make 
sense.You will probably learn alot from her that you can share with others 
along the way.

  Blessings. You deserve them!
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread laurieskatz
Pretty sure 2 of mine have herpes. Keisha probably did, too. Pretty sure 3 do 
not.
They have lived together for 7 years.
L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:54 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Oh Laurie, how horrible for you to lose your cat at 22 after the cleaning 
especially since he lived so long and was a positive.  How absolutely heart 
breaking.  Lennie has never had his teeth cleaned under anesthesia.  He has 
always eaten hard food and now I mix it with some softer food but everytime he 
goes to the vet they check his teeth and they're fine.  I probably will never 
have that procedure done to him unless there were an abscess or something.  Too 
risky.  Speaking of risk, I called Lennie's vet, only because they are familiar 
with him and told them what I was planning to do, getting Snowball, and should 
I have him vaccinated for the Herpes Virus.  I forget what 2 things it 
involves, and he said, oh yes, bring him in.  He'll need a physical and then 
we'll vaccinate him.  Lennie was sick last summer with a dermatitis and ear 
infection, not mites, just an ear infection.  He went nuts on Prednisone so 
came off it and once it was discovered he had a thyroid issue, many hundreds of 
dollars later, he was put on thyroid medication and you'd swear he'a a 10 year 
old again.  Anyhow, I then called BooBoo's vet and told him the story.  He 
said, do not vaccinate your old guy. It could be more harmful than benefit.  He 
also assured me that if Snowball is vaccinated and is symptom free I should 
have nothing to worry about.  If she does have an outbreak, I would need to 
isolate her until she is well again.  Lennie will not even go near her.  This I 
know.  He avoided BooBoo like the plague and has no interest in other animals 
whatsoever.  I will have to be diligent about litter boxes, dishes etc but I'm 
really not worried.  With what we have just gone through, we can handle this.

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Oh Lynne. I have not been on that group for awhile. That is disgusting. I 
have stopped visiting other groups where breeders lurk. 
Re Booboo, some kitties just respond poorly to anesthesia and also it can 
awaken sleeping threats. My Squeak (FeLV+) had not been under anesthesia except 
to be neutered and declawed by his prior owner. I adopted him at age 8. At 22 
he needed a dental cleaning. The vet had been scraping the tartar off his teeth 
for years but felt we needed a dental. Pre surgery blood work was perfect. Two 
months later he was dead from oral cancer. Did the anesthesia awaken a sleeping 
virus? I will never know but he was the PICTURE of health before this. I don't 
blame anyone but it makes me very sad. He was my soul mate.

I have read that Persians' flat faces make them more susceptible to upper 
respiratory problems. I suppose the eye problem susecptibility would also make 
sense.You will probably learn alot from her that you can share with others 
along the way.

Blessings. You deserve them!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:00 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

  It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we 
get her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

  Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Well that's reassuring.  I'm not gonna sleep tonight I'm so excited.  Even my 
husband, who wouldn't even look at her picture when I tried showing it to him 
at first is excited.  He's taken BooBoo's death very hard.  Tonight though he 
looked at her photo and exclaimed,  that's her !!!.  Then he started to smile 
and admitted he's anxious to have her.  I just hope this cat loves me the most. 
 The two males we've had and even BooBoo have always wound up on Bob's lap or 
when Josh lived at home, his lap.  I've always been the second choice.  Maybe 
Snowball being a female will want to hang with me more.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:47 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Pretty sure 2 of mine have herpes. Keisha probably did, too. Pretty sure 3 do 
not.
  They have lived together for 7 years.
  L
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Oh Laurie, how horrible for you to lose your cat at 22 after the cleaning 
especially since he lived so long and was a positive.  How absolutely heart 
breaking.  Lennie has never had his teeth cleaned under anesthesia.  He has 
always eaten hard food and now I mix it with some softer food but everytime he 
goes to the vet they check his teeth and they're fine.  I probably will never 
have that procedure done to him unless there were an abscess or something.  Too 
risky.  Speaking of risk, I called Lennie's vet, only because they are familiar 
with him and told them what I was planning to do, getting Snowball, and should 
I have him vaccinated for the Herpes Virus.  I forget what 2 things it 
involves, and he said, oh yes, bring him in.  He'll need a physical and then 
we'll vaccinate him.  Lennie was sick last summer with a dermatitis and ear 
infection, not mites, just an ear infection.  He went nuts on Prednisone so 
came off it and once it was discovered he had a thyroid issue, many hundreds of 
dollars later, he was put on thyroid medication and you'd swear he'a a 10 year 
old again.  Anyhow, I then called BooBoo's vet and told him the story.  He 
said, do not vaccinate your old guy. It could be more harmful than benefit.  He 
also assured me that if Snowball is vaccinated and is symptom free I should 
have nothing to worry about.  If she does have an outbreak, I would need to 
isolate her until she is well again.  Lennie will not even go near her.  This I 
know.  He avoided BooBoo like the plague and has no interest in other animals 
whatsoever.  I will have to be diligent about litter boxes, dishes etc but I'm 
really not worried.  With what we have just gone through, we can handle this.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:40 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Oh Lynne. I have not been on that group for awhile. That is disgusting. I 
have stopped visiting other groups where breeders lurk. 
  Re Booboo, some kitties just respond poorly to anesthesia and also it can 
awaken sleeping threats. My Squeak (FeLV+) had not been under anesthesia except 
to be neutered and declawed by his prior owner. I adopted him at age 8. At 22 
he needed a dental cleaning. The vet had been scraping the tartar off his teeth 
for years but felt we needed a dental. Pre surgery blood work was perfect. Two 
months later he was dead from oral cancer. Did the anesthesia awaken a sleeping 
virus? I will never know but he was the PICTURE of health before this. I don't 
blame anyone but it makes me very sad. He was my soul mate.

  I have read that Persians' flat faces make them more susceptible to upper 
respiratory problems. I suppose the eye problem susecptibility would also make 
sense.You will probably learn alot from her that you can share with others 
along the way.

  Blessings. You deserve them!
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball 
was diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and 
considering her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is 
most likely what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports 
and her immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned 
daily.  Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we 
get her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie