Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-08 Thread epirat07
On 8 Feb 2024, at 13:32, Nicolas George wrote: > Leo Izen (12024-02-07): >> I don't think this is really a fair statement to make. We have lots of >> potential reviewers subscribed to this list but very few people actually >> review code, and those that do review code are expected to provide

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-08 Thread Nicolas George
Leo Izen (12024-02-07): > I don't think this is really a fair statement to make. We have lots of > potential reviewers subscribed to this list but very few people actually > review code, and those that do review code are expected to provide some sort > of technical objection or reason why it

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-07 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 08:08:34AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:58 AM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > Theres the person writing a SoW for work he wants to do. > > Theres the person who accepts the SoW in FFmpeg > > Theres the person who passes

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-07 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 02:01:35PM -0500, Leo Izen wrote: > On 2/6/24 16:23, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Its true anyone of 2000 people could block a patch. This is not neccessary > > for the argument at all though. > > I don't think this is really a fair statement to make. We have lots of >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-07 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 9:44 AM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > [..] i see as only options left to either do a quick vote on > the finished Coverity bug fixing SoW, so a simple "is this text ok", and if > yes nothing anyone says later can create another problem. > That seems reasonable.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-07 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 08:08:34AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:58 AM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > Theres the person writing a SoW for work he wants to do. > > Theres the person who accepts the SoW in FFmpeg > > Theres the person who passes

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-07 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le 7 février 2024 14:16:51 GMT+02:00, Nicolas George a écrit : >Paul B Mahol (12024-02-06): >> If this is again about SDR, go ahead, merge it. I no longer care. > >You should care. But you should care by being FOR it, not AGAINST. > >The people who oppose SDR are the same libav people who are

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-07 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi Michael, On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:58 AM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Theres the person writing a SoW for work he wants to do. > Theres the person who accepts the SoW in FFmpeg > Theres the person who passes accepted SoW on to SPI/STF > > Iam sadly involved in more than one role here. > I

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-07 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 08:38:13PM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:04 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > I think you should sign a SoW that has "Merged in git master" as a > > Deliverable > > > > I already did. It was fine. of course its fine 9 out of 10

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-07 Thread Nicolas George
Paul B Mahol (12024-02-06): > If this is again about SDR, go ahead, merge it. I no longer care. You should care. But you should care by being FOR it, not AGAINST. The people who oppose SDR are the same libav people who are disgusting you and me and others away from the project with their

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
> On Feb 6, 2024, at 10:17 AM, Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > if "merge to git master" is a requirement then iam not participating > in this. The risk simply outweights the gain. I wont work for months to > then be at the mercy of not a single of 2000 subscribers posting some > "i object"

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:04 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > I think you should sign a SoW that has "Merged in git master" as a > Deliverable > I already did. It was fine. > PS: do you have a single person willing to sign this Deliverable you > want ? > If not, how will the STF thing work

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 04:39:51PM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 4:23 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > What i can and did and do suggest is > > "Patches submitted for review to the FFMPEG dev mailing list. As well as > > taking care of all reasonable

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 4:23 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > What i can and did and do suggest is > "Patches submitted for review to the FFMPEG dev mailing list. As well as > taking care of all reasonable review comments." > > If "all reasonable review comments" is not enough then what are

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 03:53:55PM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 1:17 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > I wont work for months to > > then be at the mercy of not a single of 2000 subscribers posting some > > "i object" and all 2000 know in this situation it

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 1:17 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > I wont work for months to > then be at the mercy of not a single of 2000 subscribers posting some > "i object" and all 2000 know in this situation it would cause an > inconvenience to me. > That's a strawman version of how our

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 7:17 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 12:02:51PM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:05 AM Niklas Haas wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 10:21:21 -0500 "Ronald S. Bultje" < > rsbul...@gmail.com> > > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Niklas Haas
On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 12:02:51 -0500 "Ronald S. Bultje" wrote: > I understand that, hypothetically, if STF had funded SDR, this would be > problematic, because no payment is possible for work a majority of the > project's constituents doesn't want in. As far as I understood, it was proposed that

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Michael Niedermayer
Hi On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 12:02:51PM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:05 AM Niklas Haas wrote: > > > On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 10:21:21 -0500 "Ronald S. Bultje" > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 10:15 AM Michael Niedermayer < > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:05 AM Niklas Haas wrote: > On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 10:21:21 -0500 "Ronald S. Bultje" > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 10:15 AM Michael Niedermayer < > mich...@niedermayer.cc> > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 09:18:20AM -0500, Ronald S.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Niklas Haas
On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 10:21:21 -0500 "Ronald S. Bultje" wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 10:15 AM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 09:18:20AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:06 PM Michael Niedermayer < > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Niklas Haas
On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 09:18:20 -0500 "Ronald S. Bultje" wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:06 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > 2. Deliverables > > Patches submitted for review to the FFMPEG dev mailing list. > > > > I think the goal is to get patches merged, not submitted.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 04:26:41PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 10:21:21AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 10:15 AM Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 09:18:20AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 10:21:21AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 10:15 AM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 09:18:20AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:06 PM Michael Niedermayer < > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 03:57:39PM +0100, Vittorio Giovara wrote: > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:06 AM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > As Jonatan reminded the ML we need to provide SoWs if we want to > > participate in STF-SPI > > > > We need one for each project (they do not need

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 10:15 AM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 09:18:20AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:06 PM Michael Niedermayer < > mich...@niedermayer.cc> > > wrote: > > > > > 2. Deliverables > > > Patches submitted

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 09:18:20AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:06 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > 2. Deliverables > > Patches submitted for review to the FFMPEG dev mailing list. > > > > I think the goal is to get patches merged, not submitted.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:18 PM Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:06 PM Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > 2. Deliverables > > Patches submitted for review to the FFMPEG dev mailing list. > > > > I think the goal is to get patches merged, not submitted. > ┓┏┓┏┓┃

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:06 AM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi all > > As Jonatan reminded the ML we need to provide SoWs if we want to > participate in STF-SPI > > We need one for each project (they do not need to list a person ATM) > but obviously we do need someone who will do the work > > I

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-06 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:06 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > 2. Deliverables > Patches submitted for review to the FFMPEG dev mailing list. > I think the goal is to get patches merged, not submitted. Ronald ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list

[FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs

2024-02-05 Thread Michael Niedermayer
Hi all As Jonatan reminded the ML we need to provide SoWs if we want to participate in STF-SPI We need one for each project (they do not need to list a person ATM) but obviously we do need someone who will do the work I do belive they do need to list the money amount. Thanks go to Pierre for