Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-28 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
Note: I have no idea what YUVJ is (I assume you want to remove it, not to implement it?) and I forgot to mention "reverted work" (likely in the form "work not yet merged or reverted within 30 days after being merged"). The goal here was to make easier to understand what's expected. Of course, I

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-28 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
That's not a problem at all; because you can divide the work into discrete pieces after it's done (on the invoice), just like liberal professionals (eg. accountants, lawyers, administrators, etc.) The SOW defines what is acceptable on the invoice (so in the YUVJ case, for example, it could be

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-28 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
While it's true a traditional SOW breaks work into milestones, we're going for a simplified one here out of need. Think on when you ask for consulting, not when you ask for a feature. You should not assume we want to write eg. "Finish removing YUVJ by date X" ─ that's not the plan and as you said

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-28 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
Keep in mind I only receive messages if I'm explicitly in the To field. I'm with only half of the context, so my messages may sound weird, out of context, repetitive, etc. In any case. >> [...] the GA definitly cannot object to an invoice for a project that the GA approved previously. > "The

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-31 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
There are no agreements between SPI and STF as of 31st January 2024. However, if you submit a Scope of Work, then an agreement will be made if STF approves the sponsorship (on the Feb 14th or later). I assume you don't mean National Association of Broadcasters by "NAB", so I would need to know

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-31 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
I can't find anything in SPI related to NAB either. I can ask the officers if they're aware of something from NAB, but I don't think that would be the case. I can find some old booths for FOSSEM, FOSDEM and whatnot though. Can you double check? (Also: What's the relation between NAB and this

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-31 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 1:11 PM Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > Hi, > > Le keskiviikkona 31. tammikuuta 2024, 16.10.02 EET Jonatas L. Nogueira via > ffmpeg-devel a écrit : > > > IMO hasty actions and avoidable drama may cause damage to the project > > > &

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-29 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
Again, this sounds like a misunderstanding. The SOW is subservient to the merge, not the other way around. In other words, the SOW don't require you to merge, but when/if you do merge, then the SOW will require the payment to the contractor, which SPI handles. So the SOW makes clear that if

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-29 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
Please keep in mind we're a public charity using public money from taxpayers, which means we need a criteria for payments and that said payments must be issued objectively. The GA might be able to distribute money with subjective criterias... But not this specific money which is being discussed. I

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Vote STF/SPI 2024-02

2024-02-01 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
> The same of course should apply to any other future funding, it must be either the community (via GA) or a third party setting up the sponsorship. I honestly didn't understood this part. Maybe because I'm not involved with FFmpeg internal workings and policies, but could you clarify the exact

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-29 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
Anton: "whether anything requires the projects to be owned by individuals"... I don't think so. At least, not from the SPI side, STF might have objections which I cannot anticipate. But from the SPI side, we probably could do a MSA/SOW with a company rather than individuals just fine, although I

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-31 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
> IMO hasty actions and avoidable drama may cause damage to the project What would be a hasty action? I've seen far too much people calling action over stuff discussed for weeks/months as "hasty" in attempt to stall into endless discussions, so you might want to clarify. > The question is, what

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-31 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
e done in time. -- Jonatas L. Nogueira (“jesusalva”) Board of Directors Member Software in the Public Interest, Inc. On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:17 PM Kieran Kunhya wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 14:10, Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel < > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-01-31 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
you start discussing how to properly pay for the hours spent hunting > simple typo mistakes now, you'll never be able to tell STF what actually > needs to be done in time. > > -- > Jonatas L. Nogueira (“jesusalva”) > Board of Directors Member > Software in the Public Interest, Inc.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-02-05 Thread Jonatas L. Nogueira via ffmpeg-devel
This is the courtesy reminder we've agreed on, to remember there's a week left to finish the Scope of Work if FFmpeg wishes to deliver it by February 12th as requested by STF. Att., Jonatas L. Nogueira (“Jesusalva”) SPI Board of Directors On Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 21:16 Stefano Sabatini wrote: >