Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 02:31:59AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 01:31:33PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:15 PM, Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:09:41PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 01:31:33PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:15 PM, Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:09:41PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer > >>

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 17:01:56 +0200 Nicolas George wrote: > James Almer (2018-04-19): > > It would have not been backwards compatible in such scenario to load at > > runtime an hypotetical 3.4.x lavf library with that change in an > > application that was built against 3.3.x or

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

James Almer (2018-04-19): > It would have not been backwards compatible in such scenario to load at > runtime an hypotetical 3.4.x lavf library with that change in an > application that was built against 3.3.x or older. Regardless of 0 being > defined as EOF or not in documentation, the behavior

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:47:54 -0300 James Almer wrote: > On 4/19/2018 11:43 AM, wm4 wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:33:47 +0200 > > Nicolas George wrote: > > > >> James Almer (2018-04-19): > >>> Had it been in 3.4 it would have mean a considerable ABI

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 4/19/2018 11:43 AM, wm4 wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:33:47 +0200 > Nicolas George wrote: > >> James Almer (2018-04-19): >>> Had it been in 3.4 it would have mean a considerable ABI breakage as >>> well, at least without the eventual backwards compat change. >> >> Can you

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 4/19/2018 11:33 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > James Almer (2018-04-19): >> Had it been in 3.4 it would have mean a considerable ABI breakage as >> well, at least without the eventual backwards compat change. > > Can you explain why you think that? > > When advising on these changes and

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:33:47 +0200 Nicolas George wrote: > James Almer (2018-04-19): > > Had it been in 3.4 it would have mean a considerable ABI breakage as > > well, at least without the eventual backwards compat change. > > Can you explain why you think that? > > When

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

James Almer (2018-04-19): > Had it been in 3.4 it would have mean a considerable ABI breakage as > well, at least without the eventual backwards compat change. Can you explain why you think that? When advising on these changes and reviewing patches, I was very careful that they do not introduce

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 4/19/2018 3:49 AM, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:56 AM, wm4 wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 00:40:21 +0200 >> Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55:09PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote: On 4/18/18, wm4

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:49:07 +0200 Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:56 AM, wm4 wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 00:40:21 +0200 > > Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55:09PM

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:15 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:09:41PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer >> wrote: >> > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 02:04:43PM +0200, Michael

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:49:21 +0200 Nicolas George wrote: > Hendrik Leppkes (2018-04-19): > > Lets just fix the issues and move on, there is no point in more arguing. > > Thanks (and also thanks to Michael). > > When something has been badly designed for a long time (and this

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

Hendrik Leppkes (2018-04-19): > Lets just fix the issues and move on, there is no point in more arguing. Thanks (and also thanks to Michael). When something has been badly designed for a long time (and this particular issue predates FFmpeg: the Unix socket API itself is bad, FFmpeg only followed

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:49:07 +0200 Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:56 AM, wm4 wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 00:40:21 +0200 > > Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55:09PM

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 02:19:06 +0200 Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:56:05AM +0200, wm4 wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 00:40:21 +0200 > > Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55:09PM +0200, Paul

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:56 AM, wm4 wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 00:40:21 +0200 > Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55:09PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote: >> > On 4/18/18, wm4 wrote: >> > > On Wed, 18

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:56:05AM +0200, wm4 wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 00:40:21 +0200 > Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55:09PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > > On 4/18/18, wm4 wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2018

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 00:40:21 +0200 Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55:09PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > On 4/18/18, wm4 wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 23:15:47 +0200 > > > Michael Niedermayer

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55:09PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On 4/18/18, wm4 wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 23:15:47 +0200 > > Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:09:41PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > >> > On Mon, Apr

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 4/18/18, wm4 wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 23:15:47 +0200 > Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:09:41PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer >> >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 23:15:47 +0200 Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:09:41PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 02:04:43PM +0200,

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:09:41PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 02:04:43PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:53:08AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 02:04:43PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:53:08AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:50:08AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 03:14:55PM +0100, Rostislav Pehlivanov wrote: > On 16 April 2018 at 12:40, Timo Teras wrote: > > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:24:48 +0200 > > Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > > > release/4.0 branched > > > next is the release in a

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 16 April 2018 at 12:40, Timo Teras wrote: > On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:24:48 +0200 > Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > release/4.0 branched > > next is the release in a few days. > > If theres something i should wait for please say so and CC me > > also

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:24:48 +0200 Michael Niedermayer wrote: > release/4.0 branched > next is the release in a few days. > If theres something i should wait for please say so and CC me > also please backport all bugfixes to 4.0 I was hoping to get my patches in for the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 02:04:43PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:53:08AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:50:08AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:53:08AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:50:08AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Hi > > > > Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release > > > > Is 4.0 or 3.5 preferred ? > > Any name suggestions ? > > > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 4/13/2018 10:48 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:33:32AM -0300, James Almer wrote: >> On 4/13/2018 9:59 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:17:51PM -0300, James Almer wrote: On 4/12/2018 9:11 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >>> [...] >>>

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:33:32AM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 4/13/2018 9:59 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:17:51PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > >> On 4/12/2018 9:11 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > [...] > > > >>> > >>> > and apply the fix to the c11

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 4/13/2018 9:59 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:17:51PM -0300, James Almer wrote: >> On 4/12/2018 9:11 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > [...] > >>> >>> and apply the fix to the c11 check in configure. >>> >>> you want me to apply it ? >>> or i misunderstand ? >>

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:17:51PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 4/12/2018 9:11 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: [...] > > > > > >> and apply the fix to the c11 check in configure. > > > > you want me to apply it ? > > or i misunderstand ? > > You confirmed it worked ("foo += bar" and "bar =

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:17:51PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 4/12/2018 9:11 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 07:59:25PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > >> On 4/12/2018 7:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:50:08AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:59 AM, James Almer wrote: > a bunch of msvc miscompilation failures that Microsoft will not fix. A bunch of those are apparently fixed in an upcoming compiler update, Martin reported those (for VS2017) What remains we'll have to see afterwards, its

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 4/12/2018 10:17 PM, James Almer wrote: > On 4/12/2018 9:11 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 07:59:25PM -0300, James Almer wrote: >>> On 4/12/2018 7:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:50:08AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 4/12/2018 9:11 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 07:59:25PM -0300, James Almer wrote: >> On 4/12/2018 7:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:50:08AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 07:59:25PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 4/12/2018 7:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:50:08AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release > >> > >> Is 4.0 or 3.5

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 4/12/2018 7:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:50:08AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> Hi >> >> Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release >> >> Is 4.0 or 3.5 preferred ? >> Any name suggestions ? >> >> If there are no objections i

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:50:08AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi > > Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release > > Is 4.0 or 3.5 preferred ? > Any name suggestions ? > > If there are no objections i will likely make that release in the next weeks more

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

Hi, On 19.02.2018 02:50, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi > > Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release > > Is 4.0 or 3.5 preferred ? > Any name suggestions ? > > If there are no objections i will likely make that release in the next weeks I would like to see the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

Reto Kromer wrote: >I suggest as well to move the 2.8 branch from the Releases to >the Old Releases. I just noticed that the day before yesterday 2.8.14 has been released, therefore please ignore my suggestion. Thank you! ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release Is 4.0 or 3.5 preferred ? 4.0 Any name suggestions ? If there are no objections i will likely make that release in the next weeks Removal of the nvenc headers was

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

Michael Niedermayer wrote: >Is 4.0 or 3.5 preferred ? I would prefer 4.0 for the reasons already mentioned by others. I suggest as well to move the 2.8 branch from the Releases to the Old Releases. >Any name suggestions ? >I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to >the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 2/19/2018 1:31 PM, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 at 16:06 James Almer wrote: > >> On 2/19/2018 5:54 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote: >>> On 2/19/18, James Almer wrote: On 2/18/2018 10:50 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi > > Its 4

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 at 16:06 James Almer wrote: > On 2/19/2018 5:54 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > On 2/19/18, James Almer wrote: > >> On 2/18/2018 10:50 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 2/19/2018 5:54 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On 2/19/18, James Almer wrote: >> On 2/18/2018 10:50 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release >>> >>> Is 4.0 or 3.5 preferred ? >> >> Definitely 4.0. With

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 2/19/18, wm4 wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:54:57 +0100 > Paul B Mahol wrote: > >> On 2/19/18, James Almer wrote: >> > On 2/18/2018 10:50 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:54:57 +0100 Paul B Mahol wrote: > On 2/19/18, James Almer wrote: > > On 2/18/2018 10:50 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release > >> > >> Is 4.0 or 3.5

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 2/19/18, James Almer wrote: > On 2/18/2018 10:50 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> Hi >> >> Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release >> >> Is 4.0 or 3.5 preferred ? > > Definitely 4.0. With the major bump, the removal of ffprobe and WinXP

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 3.5 / 4.0

On 2/18/2018 10:50 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi > > Its 4 months since 3.4 was branched so its time for a new major release > > Is 4.0 or 3.5 preferred ? Definitely 4.0. With the major bump, the removal of ffprobe and WinXP support, catching up with the merge queue, plus a bunch of new