Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Lou Logan
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lou Logan wrote: > Back in ye olde cvs days it made more sense, but not anymore with git. > Legacy and tradition alone shouldn't be a factor. ...and just for comparison: ffmpeg-devel: 1800 subscribers ffmpeg-cvslog: 190 subscribers

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Lou Logan
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017, at 03:45 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > > Committers have to be subscribed to -cvslog. Back in ye olde cvs days it made more sense, but not anymore with git. Legacy and tradition alone shouldn't be a factor. ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread wm4
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:09:40 + Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > On 12/4/2017 12:45 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > > Committers have to be subscribed to -cvslog. > > "Have to"? I certainly am not, and neither are many. Are you going to > kick all of them out and revoke

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Hendrik Leppkes
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > On 12/4/2017 12:45 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> Committers have to be subscribed to -cvslog. > > "Have to"? I certainly am not, and neither are many. Are you going to > kick all of them out and revoke their

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 12/4/2017 12:45 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > Committers have to be subscribed to -cvslog. "Have to"? I certainly am not, and neither are many. Are you going to kick all of them out and revoke their push access? I think not. It's clear that the majority here do not agree with you on this

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-12-03 6:37 GMT+01:00 Timothy Gu : > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:03 PM Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> If you believe that it is unclear that there is a difference between an >> occasional contributor (who most likely would not read -devel nor >> -cvslog)

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-02 Thread Timothy Gu
Hi all, On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 12:32 AM Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > 1. In doc/developer.texi, eliminate the single chapter, > and promote each section underneath to chapter, and > each subsection to section. Thus content and relative > structure remains the same, but the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 11/26/17, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > On 2017-11-26 04:38, Paul B Mahol wrote: >> On 11/26/17, Nicolas George wrote: >>> Paul B Mahol (2017-11-26): Your opinions are irrelevant. >>> # Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. >>> #

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2017-11-26 04:38, Paul B Mahol wrote: On 11/26/17, Nicolas George wrote: Paul B Mahol (2017-11-26): Your opinions are irrelevant. # Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. # Treat others the way you yourself want to be treated. Please stop trampling

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 11/26/17, Nicolas George wrote: > Paul B Mahol (2017-11-26): >> Your opinions are irrelevant. > > # Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. > # Treat others the way you yourself want to be treated. > > Please stop trampling the code of conduct. Please

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Nicolas George
Paul B Mahol (2017-11-26): > Your opinions are irrelevant. # Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. # Treat others the way you yourself want to be treated. Please stop trampling the code of conduct. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 11/26/17, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2017-11-26 9:31 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt : > >> -@subsection Documentation/Other >> +@section Documentation/Other >> +@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-devel mailing list. >> +It is important to be subscribed to

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-26 9:31 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt : > -@subsection Documentation/Other > +@section Documentation/Other > +@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-devel mailing list. > +It is important to be subscribed to the Of course it is important but I would much, much prefer if

[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Previously, the Developer Documentation contained a single chapter, 1. Developer Guide, with all content under that single chapter. Thus the document structure was one level deeper and more complicated than it needed to be. It differed from similar documents such as /faq.html, which have

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-23 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2017-11-22 15:40, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: 2017-11-23 0:39 GMT+01:00 Derek Buitenhuis : On 11/22/2017 11:34 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: Please understand I am against removing the paragraph from the documentation because I believe it is a good idea if developers

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-22 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-23 0:39 GMT+01:00 Derek Buitenhuis : > On 11/22/2017 11:34 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> Please understand I am against removing the paragraph from the >> documentation because I believe it is a good idea if developers >> are subscribed to -cvslog. > > Perhaps

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-22 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 11/22/2017 11:34 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > Please understand I am against removing the paragraph from the > documentation because I believe it is a good idea if developers > are subscribed to -cvslog. Perhaps it can be reworded a bit to say it's encouraged for the cited reasons, but not

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-22 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-22 15:03 GMT+01:00 Derek Buitenhuis : > On 11/21/2017 11:40 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> I am against removing this paragraph. > > He specifically asked if it was required of new developers to subscribe > to this list, in a separate thread, earlier[1]. Paul

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-22 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 11/21/2017 11:40 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > I am against removing this paragraph. He specifically asked if it was required of new developers to subscribe to this list, in a separate thread, earlier[1]. Paul explicitly said it was *not* required[2], Timo said no discussion happens on the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-21 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2017-11-21 16:05, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: 2017-11-22 0:59 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt: On 2017-11-21 15:40, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: 2017-11-21 22:41 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt: -@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-cvslog mailing list. -It is

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-21 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-22 0:59 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt : > On 2017-11-21 15:40, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> >> 2017-11-21 22:41 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt: >> >>> -@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-cvslog mailing list. >>> -It is important to do this as the diffs

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-21 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2017-11-21 15:40, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: 2017-11-21 22:41 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt: -@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-cvslog mailing list. -It is important to do this as the diffs of all commits are sent there and -reviewed by all the other developers. Bugs and

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-21 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-21 22:41 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt : > -@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-cvslog mailing list. > -It is important to do this as the diffs of all commits are sent there and > -reviewed by all the other developers. Bugs and possible improvements or > -general

[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-21 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Previously, the Developer Documentation contained a single chapter, 1. Developer Guide, with all content under that single chapter. Thus the document structure was one level deeper and more complicated than it needed to be. It differed from similar documents such as /faq.html, which have