Re: [FFmpeg-devel] new webpage design patches
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:16:42 -0800 Lou Logan l...@lrcd.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2014, at 12:10 AM, Clément Bœsch wrote: - should we restore the hall of shame page, or maybe simply add a Violations linking to a specific query in our trac? I prefer a link to the trac violations. Or no link at all for less clutter. At least one or two responsible authors who gave a shit, or who made honest mistakes, have found their ticket in trac and cleared things up, IIRC. i vote for no shame page unless someone volunteers to keep it updated and deal with authors who come in for help. the last shame page in my opinion turned into a disaster when some developers would not negotiate with authors to try to bring them into compliance. when we had the author on the trac, willing to make changes, an ffmpeg developer would say no, you aren't allowed to distribute ffmpeg at all right now. so the shame author would get tired of that and walk away. fixing nothing. No dedicated shame page is needed. It's a maintenance burden. It is ignored by general users. Its effectiveness is debatable. It makes the project look whiney. fully agree. although it brought attention to some problems, i think it also made us the 'bad guys' to a lot of users of those shamed softwares. libav's shame page is still up, and is completely broken due to libav's bug tracker move and lack of any developers working on it. http://libav.org/shame.html -compn ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] new webpage design patches
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:25 PM, compn te...@mi.rr.com wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 09:20:30 -0800 Lou Logan l...@lrcd.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Clément Bœsch wrote: libx264 is not always available and not that much common (it requires special permissions), and the avi to mp4 is IMO not that much common: it's not going to improve quality, while mp4 to avi has the benefit of creating videos compatible with old devices, which sounds like a more common use case. I'll disagree with these points from what I've seen from what users tend to be doing and what they are using. But it's a nit. More importantly, the link to John's builds is wrong. Under Linux Static Builds, the link to 64-bit with kernel 2.6.32 and above should be http://johnvansickle.com/ffmpeg/ i can fix this, unless someone beats me to it. Also, the old # anchors have changed. For example, I provided many links to download.html#LinuxBuilds for users on various help resources, but that has changed to download.html#build-linux. We can either revert to the old names, provide a dummy link using the old names, forget about the old names and do nothing, or maybe do some redirection magic. probably revert the name/urls back. i dont think the names are set in stone ? i'd like to see an example so i dont break things further though. I'll fix those two ASAP. I hope the anchors from the download page are the only ones that changed. I don't even remember renaming them. -- db0 - Deby Barbara Lepage http://db0.fr/ ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] new webpage design patches
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 06:16:42PM -0800, Lou Logan wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2014, at 12:10 AM, Clément Bœsch wrote: - should we restore the hall of shame page, or maybe simply add a Violations linking to a specific query in our trac? I prefer a link to the trac violations. Or no link at all for less clutter. At least one or two responsible authors who gave a shit, or who made honest mistakes, have found their ticket in trac and cleared things up, IIRC. No dedicated shame page is needed. It's a maintenance burden. It is ignored by general users. Its effectiveness is debatable. It makes the project look whiney. OK - I suggested ffmpeg -i input.mp4 output.avi for the discover command, but given how low the bitrate is by default, it's probably a bad idea, any suggestion? How about ffmpeg -i input.avi output.mp4 or mkv? Most builds likely support H.264 video encoding, the defaults are sane, and I'd expect more users to want mp4 over avi. Or we can always change the old school defaults to something better (I don't know what to though). libx264 is not always available and not that much common (it requires special permissions), and the avi to mp4 is IMO not that much common: it's not going to improve quality, while mp4 to avi has the benefit of creating videos compatible with old devices, which sounds like a more common use case. I also avoided avi to mkv because IIRC there are sometimes issue that require you to do something like -fflags +genpts. Thanks for your work on the site stuff. You should thank db0. Lou -- Clément B. pgpO7UoWXqUef.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] new webpage design patches
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:32:16PM -0400, compn wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 02:20:09 +0200 Michael Niedermayer michae...@gmx.at wrote: Hi all Theres a pull request that modernises our webpage https://github.com/FFmpeg/web/pull/1 https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pull/77 i like the new design, and give it the OK. Applied last night with a bunch of other changes. -- Clément B. pgpwG5NreG0EM.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] new webpage design patches
Hi, 2014-07-15 10:10 GMT+02:00 Clément Bœsch u...@pkh.me: The new website can be previewed @ http://db0.galo.pe/ffmpeg-web/ Some comments: - The FFmpeg project is proud a brand new version - lacks a to launch/... ? - The whole section before news does not fit in my screen height and is even more so obtrusive; but I'm unimportant. Best regards, Christophe ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] new webpage design patches
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:11:39AM +0200, Christophe Gisquet wrote: Hi, 2014-07-15 10:10 GMT+02:00 Clément Bœsch u...@pkh.me: The new website can be previewed @ http://db0.galo.pe/ffmpeg-web/ Some comments: - The FFmpeg project is proud a brand new version - lacks a to launch/... ? fixed - The whole section before news does not fit in my screen height and is even more so obtrusive; but I'm unimportant. I don't know if that's on purpose so I can't comment. I'm fine with a non screen height here... [...] -- Clément B. pgpv7uHuz7KZm.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] new webpage design patches
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:15:03AM +0200, Clément Bœsch wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:11:39AM +0200, Christophe Gisquet wrote: Hi, 2014-07-15 10:10 GMT+02:00 Clément Bœsch u...@pkh.me: The new website can be previewed @ http://db0.galo.pe/ffmpeg-web/ Some comments: - The FFmpeg project is proud a brand new version - lacks a to launch/... ? fixed - The whole section before news does not fit in my screen height and is even more so obtrusive; but I'm unimportant. I don't know if that's on purpose so I can't comment. I'm fine with a non screen height here... btw, i just realize that whe the left menu needs a vartical scroll bar also a horizontal scroll bar appears even though there should be no need for it, theres nothing hidden on thr right of the menu thats with firefox on linux [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Awnsering whenever a program halts or runs forever is On a turing machine, in general impossible (turings halting problem). On any real computer, always possible as a real computer has a finite number of states N, and will either halt in less than N cycles or never halt. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] new webpage design patches
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 01:44:48PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:15:03AM +0200, Clément Bœsch wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:11:39AM +0200, Christophe Gisquet wrote: Hi, 2014-07-15 10:10 GMT+02:00 Clément Bœsch u...@pkh.me: The new website can be previewed @ http://db0.galo.pe/ffmpeg-web/ Some comments: - The FFmpeg project is proud a brand new version - lacks a to launch/... ? fixed - The whole section before news does not fit in my screen height and is even more so obtrusive; but I'm unimportant. I don't know if that's on purpose so I can't comment. I'm fine with a non screen height here... btw, i just realize that whe the left menu needs a vartical scroll bar also a horizontal scroll bar appears even though there should be no need for it, theres nothing hidden on thr right of the menu thats with firefox on linux Pushed a fix from db0 -- Clément B. pgpEfeI4fzFBF.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
