Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Common mailing-list for API evolutions
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:28:56 +0200 Clément Bœsch u...@pkh.me wrote: Hi, Kieran suggested tonight on #ffmpeg-devel to have a common mailing-list between the two projects to start communicating again in sane terms. The proposition would be a mailing-list where the 2 projects would send the patches that will make API evolutions. So the projects can continue to drop or add codecs filters without caring about the other, but will try to communicate more about the API, for the sake of our common users. At first, I suggest that won't engage anything from any of the two projects (so we don't end up in a stalled states such as one project trying to block the other), but it could be seen as a way to introduce some common technical ground. What do you think? That sounds like a good idea! On the technical side, we potentially need a neutral party to setup such mailing-list. Is anyone willing to do that? Maybe videolan could provide that? Unless a mailing list on either the ffmpeg or libav servers would be sufficient. Best regards, ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Common mailing-list for API evolutions
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014, at 02:28 PM, Clément Bœsch wrote: On the technical side, we potentially need a neutral party to setup such mailing-list. Is anyone willing to do that? The neutral party should also be willing to regularly parse the pending moderator requests for valid messages from unsubscribed users, messages over the size limit, etc (assuming Mailman is going to be used; I'm unfamiliar with anything else). I just don't want it to be a make-it-and-forget-it type of thing. I could volunteer to do that monotonous job, but then it could be argued that it is no longer neutral. Lou ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Common mailing-list for API evolutions
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 08:57:04 -0800 Lou Logan l...@lrcd.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2014, at 02:28 PM, Clément Bœsch wrote: On the technical side, we potentially need a neutral party to setup such mailing-list. Is anyone willing to do that? The neutral party should also be willing to regularly parse the pending moderator requests for valid messages from unsubscribed users, messages over the size limit, etc (assuming Mailman is going to be used; I'm unfamiliar with anything else). I just don't want it to be a make-it-and-forget-it type of thing. I could volunteer to do that monotonous job, but then it could be argued that it is no longer neutral. lou is very good at moderating the queues of the mailing lists. i also throw in my hat if such moderation is needed, although i dont check it as often as lou does. re content/bias/neutrality, i only check for patch or spam. i accept all development/flames and reject any spam. -compn ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Common mailing-list for API evolutions
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 02:54:19PM +0200, wm4 wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:28:56 +0200 Clément Bœsch u...@pkh.me wrote: Hi, Kieran suggested tonight on #ffmpeg-devel to have a common mailing-list between the two projects to start communicating again in sane terms. The proposition would be a mailing-list where the 2 projects would send the patches that will make API evolutions. So the projects can continue to drop or add codecs filters without caring about the other, but will try to communicate more about the API, for the sake of our common users. At first, I suggest that won't engage anything from any of the two projects (so we don't end up in a stalled states such as one project trying to block the other), but it could be seen as a way to introduce some common technical ground. What do you think? That sounds like a good idea! +1 though it makes only sense if libav is also using it, spliting ffmpeg development mails up across 2 lists isnt a great idea ... maybe mails could be CC-ed or automatically forwarded to ffmpeg-devel ? On the technical side, we potentially need a neutral party to setup such mailing-list. Is anyone willing to do that? Maybe videolan could provide that? Unless a mailing list on either the ffmpeg or libav servers would be sufficient. i can setup a mailing list on ffmpeg.org if people want also, technically it would be easiest to just use ffmpeg-devel itself all ffmpeg developers are already subscribed and quite a few libav people as well ... Thanks [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Opposition brings concord. Out of discord comes the fairest harmony. -- Heraclitus signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Common mailing-list for API evolutions
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:35:28 +0200 Michael Niedermayer michae...@gmx.at wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 02:54:19PM +0200, wm4 wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:28:56 +0200 Clément Bœsch u...@pkh.me wrote: Hi, Kieran suggested tonight on #ffmpeg-devel to have a common mailing-list between the two projects to start communicating again in sane terms. The proposition would be a mailing-list where the 2 projects would send the patches that will make API evolutions. So the projects can continue to drop or add codecs filters without caring about the other, but will try to communicate more about the API, for the sake of our common users. At first, I suggest that won't engage anything from any of the two projects (so we don't end up in a stalled states such as one project trying to block the other), but it could be seen as a way to introduce some common technical ground. What do you think? That sounds like a good idea! +1 though it makes only sense if libav is also using it, spliting ffmpeg development mails up across 2 lists isnt a great idea ... maybe mails could be CC-ed or automatically forwarded to ffmpeg-devel ? On the technical side, we potentially need a neutral party to setup such mailing-list. Is anyone willing to do that? Maybe videolan could provide that? Unless a mailing list on either the ffmpeg or libav servers would be sufficient. i can setup a mailing list on ffmpeg.org if people want also, technically it would be easiest to just use ffmpeg-devel itself all ffmpeg developers are already subscribed and quite a few libav people as well ... This wouldn't be neutral ground. Posters from FFmpeg should also be aware that the list is neutral ground, and not their turf. It's the difference between being guests or the guys in charge. Thanks [...] ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Common mailing-list for API evolutions
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Clément Bœsch wrote: Hi, Kieran suggested tonight on #ffmpeg-devel to have a common mailing-list between the two projects to start communicating again in sane terms. The proposition would be a mailing-list where the 2 projects would send the patches that will make API evolutions. So the projects can continue to drop or add codecs filters without caring about the other, but will try to communicate more about the API, for the sake of our common users. At first, I suggest that won't engage anything from any of the two projects (so we don't end up in a stalled states such as one project trying to block the other), but it could be seen as a way to introduce some common technical ground. What do you think? On the technical side, we potentially need a neutral party to setup such mailing-list. Is anyone willing to do that? Best regards, Please don't reply here, I messed up the libav-devel mail... -- Clément B. pgpvGZVKwQQiR.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
