Re: [FFmpeg-user] Regarding ./configure and nonfree

2024-09-11 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/10/2024 1:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

What exactly in "nonfree" is not clear?


...most of it unless you dive into the various licensing pages and 
divine the meaning _in context_ of "non-free".


Or, it was a reasonable question for the OP to ask.


For the OP-
There are a lot of "it depends" about which pieces of ffmpeg are 
licensed by LGPL/GPL2/GPL3/etc, and also whether you're statically or 
dynamically linking to the various libraries. You'll have to look which 
specific pieces you want to use (or exclude). (IMHO, the first part is 
to decide which containers/codecs/filters/etc you want and exclude all 
the rest.)


And, of course, read the ffmpeg licensing page. There is commercial 
software that includes either ffmpeg libraries or the full package, but 
under conditions such as making all the source code available or 
sometimes by running an ffmpeg executable with data piped in/out of it.


z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] The future of video

2024-07-17 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 7/17/2024 12:43 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:
frame; some projectors would use a three-blade shutter to get 
supposedly smoother-looking motion.


Actually, z!, a double or triple shutter doesn't improve motion. It 
reduces/eliminates perceived flicker.


Please read that again, I did not say it "improves motion"; it does 
certainly improve the perception of flicker.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] The future of video

2024-07-17 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 7/17/2024 5:46 AM, Oliver Fromme wrote:

The typical cinema frame rate (23.976 fps) is the minimum that's
commonly accepted,


In a real film cinema it's an exact 24fps however the shutter is 
quartered so there are two flashes per frame; some projectors would use 
a three-blade shutter to get supposedly smoother-looking motion.


z!
former 35mm projectionist (and assisted w/ 70mm)

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] [Ffmpeg-user] Issue converting RTSP stream to HLS with partial audio on source

2024-07-09 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 7/9/2024 3:53 AM, Rui Gabriel Nunes via ffmpeg-user wrote:


For reference, this is the ffmpeg command we are using at the moment:

ffmpeg -probesize 5 -analyzeduration 5 -rtsp_transport tcp  -i "rtsp://" -c:v copy -c:a aac 
-hls_flags append_list+split_by_time+omit_endlist -hls_segment_filename "_%03d.ts" -hls_time 
1 -hls_list_size 0 ".m3u8"

(command output missing)


  We've tried -c:a with the appropriate codec instead of aac, but it produced 
no result.


Can you add another audio stream from a silent audio source mapped into 
an unused channel? Or if you're re-coding the audio anyway, mix a silent 
stream into one of the real output streams.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] issues with SDI output to Dektec cards

2024-07-03 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 7/3/2024 9:11 AM, Izhar Marinov wrote:

Has anyone had any experience with SDI output to Dektec device?

It seems to be working initially but the output delay to the SDI grows
by a few seconds per minute, eventually the circular buffer fills up.


I had a similar problem with BMD Decklink cards (on windoze), but 
haven't tried it in the last couple of years and didn't spent much time 
looking for the cause; the output was fine using other software.



Just guessing here- if frames are being decoded at non-drop-frame rate 
but they're being pulled out of the buffer at the drop-frame rate, you'd 
 have some apparent delay and eventually run out of space. That 
wouldn't necessarily account for multiple seconds delay per minute, only 
a frame or so per minute. (Or decoding at 30fps and outputing at 25.)


Perhaps forcing the decode and output rates might help. I don't know 
about the Dektec boards, but the BMDs are a bit sensitive to the rate 
settings.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resolve (was Re: key frame)

2024-06-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/29/2024 7:00 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:
Everything is down to what your router does. 
Which in the vast majority of small installations (e.g. homes) is _also_ 
working as a NAT device and performs some filtering and basic firewall 
functions. Or, at least I hope the device you have does, it's hard to 
get one that doesn't.



The world knows you by the IP that your ISP has assigned.

Sure, call it 198.3.160.206/24 (outside interface).

Let's then assume that the inside interface of the firewall is 
192.168.12.1/24 and the systems A & B are on .11 and .12.


The only way that A or B are not publicly 
addressable is if you're not connected to the Internet. 
Not correct if they are using RFC1918 addresses when pretty much by 
definition they are not "publicly addressable". If you have a single 
system directly connected to the ISP (without NAT/etc), then yes, that 
system will get the 198 address and be publicly accessible, but that's 
only ONE system. The only way for A and B to both be publicly 
addressable is if the ISP gives each on a separate IP and if routes 
exist to them.


BTW, "publicly accessible" means that datagrams from anywhere outside 
can be routed to a specific system, not that the system can send 
datagrams outbound.



192.168.0.xxx does not route to the Internet. 
More correctly, the router does not have a _route_ for that network and 
even if it did, the next hop would black-hole the datagrams.



Do those 4 statements fit together in your mind? If not, ask.

Looked like 3, but never mind that.



...this is networking 101...
Yes, please study it, you seem to be mistaken in how things work and 
general network engineering practice.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resolve (was Re: key frame)

2024-06-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/29/2024 5:37 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:

The firewall is between them and the OS networking.


The firewall is between your ISP's terminal device and your PC's network 
interface, and it's probably also performing routing and NAT; many 
people call it just a router, but it's also performing other functions 
as well. Check out it's functionality.


If you're simply depending on the PC's "firewall" software, you're not 
following the accepted practices.


Oh, and "non-routable addresses"? see RFC1918.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resolve (was Re: key frame)

2024-06-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

Mark Filipak wrote in various messages:


 Open ports shine on the Internet like stars in the 
sky. Open ports want to be found.


How does the world see those ports _inside_ your firewall? Please 
explain. (You do have an Internet firewall, don't you? Which one?)



Blackmagic was created to compete with Red. Red is solid. Blackmagic 
is a barefoot mother.
Uh, no. BMD was formed in 2005 with the Decklink cards and some 
converters, their cinema cameras didn't come out until around 2012. The 
converters and switchers are quite solid, AFAICT so is Resolve.




1 - Blackmagic is not reprogramming routers to allow ports into
LANs. Ports are allowed in by default.
What -are- you talking about? If your network firewall is allowing some 
ports inbound, that's not the application software's problem.


Likewise, a web site that looks for open ports can only see what that 
firewall allows. (I think the only in-bound connections I allow is ssh 
on a non-standard port, wireguard vpn, and? no, that's about it. 
In-bound responses are allow when matched with outbound traffic. That's 
pretty standard stuff.)


Now let's get to non-routable IP addresses, like the 192.168 range. If 
you're using those and they're properly filtered out there won't be 
inbound traffic to those ports, and outbound with NAT's addresses can be 
easily blocked if you want.


This is a non-problem to the vast majority of users and networks.


FWIW Resolve uses a database approach to its projects.  (Avid uses 
files (bins aka .avb files) as does Premiere.  That likely

accounts for at least one of the open ports if not more


I think you're referring to collaborative software, not databases.
And under the collab software is a Database!!! (even sqlite is a 
database, and a pretty good one, too; most cell phones and web browsers 
are using it.)



Yup, trust me, I'm from Blackmagic. Are you a convenience fool? If 
so, you don't get on my LAN.
Again, your loss. And your "walled garden" metaphorically has a couple 
of large holes in it.


If you don't want to use Resolve, that's fine with pretty much everyone 
else, just don't go throwing up nonsensical reasons and pretending that 
they're fact-based.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resolve (was Re: key frame)

2024-06-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/29/2024 12:56 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:

I did. That's why I decided not to use it.


Your loss.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resolve (was Re: key frame)

2024-06-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/29/2024 12:46 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

I have no respect to anything called 'Blackmagic'.


That's fine, but then it appears that you're not familiar with the video 
production industry - BMD products are all over. Perhaps you also can't 
respect anything from "Grass Valley" or "Decimator", or maybe the Ross 
Systems "Carbonite" line of switchers. There's more to it than just a 
name :).


BTW, Blackmagic bought da Vinci Systems around 15 years ago to get the 
Resolve color correction software; it's been around for a long time.



I don't work for any of those companies, but I've worked with their 
products for years, they're solid.


z!

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[FFmpeg-user] Resolve (was Re: key frame)

2024-06-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/28/2024 4:07 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:
I have to consider Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve to be a virus hub that is 
probably selling access to my system through those ports to outside clients.


You're welcome to consider it such, but that doesn't make it so.


BMD is a rather old and respected company, if you're concerned about the 
open ports in their _free_ software you're welcome not to use it. Or 
welcome to block those ports, or to even ask BMD why they're open?


Right in some BMD notes for v19--
Setting up Remote Monitoring over IP connections on the Resolve Clients
[...]
Firewall exceptions and appropriate port forwarding will need to be 
manually configured in order to use this mode. The procedure to initiate 
a session and accept connections remains the same. This mode uses TCP 
server port 16410 and TCP/UDP port 16411, 16412, etc. for each client.


(Took me a only a few minutes to find that.)

They also use some ports for collaboration and probably for license 
management; can't blame them for that, can we?



Before quickly trashing some well-respected software, please do a little 
research.


z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] key frame

2024-06-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/27/2024 4:21 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

Difference between I-frame and key frame is so subtle that is not relevant
for your project.


What are they? They may be relevant to another project.

z!


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-25 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/25/2024 11:20 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

What are you arguing about, z!?
Do you not believe that VLC plays Track_11055.m2ts?


Sigh, read it again. You asserted without foundation that VLC does "do 
not depend on ffmpeg" and I pointed out that it does. Nothing more, 
nothing less.


You also asserted in an email that something works with two players but 
did not say which ones _in that email_, but rather depended on readers 
to trace back to another source for that into.




z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-25 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/25/2024 10:39 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:
VLC and PowerDVD. 


VLC? Right in their credits they list ffmpeg (along with many other OS 
projects).


It's at the top of the trac page, in the "Summary of 
the bug". Do you see it, z!?


Did you put it in the email that I was quoting? No. In the trac comment? 
No.


z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-25 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/25/2024 9:53 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

On 25/06/2024 12.28, Carl Zwanzig wrote:

On 6/25/2024 8:51 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/11055#comment:173

   Ticket_11055.m2ts plays correctly and completely by two players 
that do not depend on FFmpeg.


Which ones? That's part of traceability (and proper bug reporting).



That's at the top of the trac page.


It is not. That doesn't tell anyone which two _players_!

z!


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-25 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/25/2024 8:51 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/11055#comment:173

   Ticket_11055.m2ts plays correctly and completely by two players that 
do not depend on FFmpeg.


Which ones? That's part of traceability (and proper bug reporting).


   When are we going to get on with the job of troubleshooting the 
FFmpeg timestamp bug?


When people feel like expending their own time on it? Remember it's a 
volunteer project... Or having spent so much time and effort to uncover 
a but, you could spend a little more time learning enough 'c' to read 
the code, that shouldn't be difficult for someone who IIRC has professed 
experience in real time programming of micros.


Here are a couple of places to learn-
https://github.com/balapriyac/30-Days-of-C
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/c-programming-for-beginners-a-20-day-curriculum/


z!

"C combines the power of assembly language with the flexibility of 
assembly language."

--me, c1982 (using the DECUS compiler on DEC's RT-11)

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-19 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/19/2024 11:19 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

 From the sound of it, this _is_ a normal/medium (or even "low") 
severity bug in that it doesn't affect the vast majority of ffmpeg use.


How do you know that, Carl?


Address me as I sign my email and no other way; that's why it's there.

How to I know? From what I've read this potential bug affects very 
little of how ffmpeg actually operates; if it had, it's likely that the 
regression tests (aka FATE) would have shown many errors. This opinion 
come from a few decades of software engineering, both development and 
testing.



Maybe it affects every FFmpeg use.


Then demonstrate it (by providing other seemingly unrelated tests cases 
that all fail and can be traced to the single error).


Or assume that the developers know better than we do and accept whatever 
priority they set. And maybe also assume a less confrontational 
attitude, telling someone that they're "Wrong" at best sends an impolite 
message.


z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-19 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/19/2024 9:51 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:
Thank you for the 'guide' but neither 'important' nor 'normal' are in 
that guide.


The interpolate using normal English!


I can only say that if you take all the timestamp bug reports (which may 
all be from the same cause) and total them together, it's not "normal".


Bug priority (and severity, if separate) have nothing to do with whether 
the behavior is "normal". Since Trac only has priority, it applies to 
how quickly the bug should be addressed; I'm sure that's discussed in 
the link I sent. Read the page http://trac.ffmpeg.org/ and follow 
"Please read the _​Bug Tracker Manual_" link, you'll see an explanation 
of priority.



Please put as much effort into how to report issues as you do in 
discovering them.


z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-19 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/19/2024 6:22 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:
MasterQuestionable has downgraded the timestamp bug from 'important' to 
'normal'.


Yes, and???

From the sound of it, this _is_ a normal/medium (or even "low") 
severity bug in that it doesn't affect the vast majority of ffmpeg use. 
There is often a give and take around this between the bug reporter and 
the developers, and that's a war nobody wins (don't try).


For those unclear on the use of severity, there are many guides to this 
online (e.g. 
https://gathelp.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010618340-Bug-severity-guide).


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Top-posting (was Re: I found the bugs)

2024-06-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/16/2024 7:02 AM, Bouke / edit 'B wrote:

You are feeding a thread that should not exist, so you, z!, are also feeding 
trolls.


A thread that -I- created for a real problem, along with a reason why 
isn't a problam and with a solution. Deal with it.



  Stop, just stop.


Please do.

And stop top-posting.

z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/16/2024 6:54 AM, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user wrote:

Isn't that a statement which fundamentally undermines the entire concept
  of ffmpeg as an open source project with willing developers...


More than a few OS projects have professional (and paid, they're not the 
same thing) developers. Nothing wrong with it.


z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Top-posting (was Re: I found the bugs)

2024-06-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/16/2024 6:58 AM, Bouke / edit 'B wrote:

Do not feed trolls.


How is calling out the use of top posting "feeding the trolls"?

(It isn't.)

z!

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[FFmpeg-user] Top-posting (was Re: I found the bugs)

2024-06-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/16/2024 2:33 AM, Binarus wrote:
to solve your problem. 


... for the same reasons that annoy you  


However, your behavior ... Do you really 
...to communicate with you  



I strongly advise you to


- You do not have 


etc

We only find out who "you" might be until we read down through 50+ lines 
of message.


Top posting is only useful if the new material stands alone, at which 
point any quoting is extraneous and ought to have been removed.


Just don't do it (top post).

z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-15 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/15/2024 1:30 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

What you even mean with above unclear statements?


Perhaps you might read the last 8-10 messages as Jim attempts to 
decipher it.


z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] ticket/11055 FFmpeg reports inconsistent PTS, DTS between 3 invocations [was: Re: I found the bugs]

2024-06-14 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/14/2024 5:31 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:
You see. This is the type of discussion that needs to occur _before_ a 
bug report is filed.


Respectfully, no. Unless you had filed the bug, we wouldn't be having it 
now.


Perhaps it would have been better if you had read the filing guidelines 
and learned about bug reporting in general much earlier.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-12 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/12/2024 2:44 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:


I need someone more knowledgeable about FFmpeg to triage. 


They're often called 'developers'.

For example, 
Perhaps the sequence header has some information that conflicts with my 
cuts (the way cutting out a lone open B-frame turns an ending open GOP 
into a closed GOP but there's no way to set the 'closed_gop' MPEG tag to 
'1').


That's not how bug reporting works in any place I've worked. _You_ file 
the bug with all the info you have. The person it's assigned to, or the 
person who takes it, investigates to see what's really happening (and 
maybe asks follow-up questions). Maybe there's an open/closed GOP thing 
that only happens when there's an 'X' in the file name and the moon is 
full. fine, is it reproducible and interesting enough for someone to 
analyze and look for the error?


It's also possible that things are working as designed and the developer 
response will say that.


The other option is just sitting on the info and if there really is a 
problem allowing it to not be fixed.


Your choice.

z!
who once found a bug in borland libc mktime() that occurred when 
tm_mon=2 and tm_mday=29 but only on an actual leap year


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] WebM & Opus Question

2024-06-12 Thread Carl Zwanzig

I might be confused here, but...

On 6/12/2024 11:15 AM, Vlad Negru via ffmpeg-user wrote:

ffmpeg -i Input.webm -c:a copy Output.opus


> Stream mapping:
>   Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (copy)


On 6/12/2024 11:57 AM, Ferdi Scholten wrote:
You need to have a version of the opus encoder that is specifically 
compiled to use fixed point

How does an encoder become involved if copying the stream?


It appears that the encoder metadata is different between the in and out 
files, could that be the real issue?


in:   encoder: google/video-file
out:  encoder: Lavf61.1.100

Later,

z!

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] I found the bugs

2024-06-12 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/12/2024 11:35 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

If no one corroborates my findings, I can't proceed with a bug report.


Why not? Nothing about that in https://ffmpeg.org/bugreports.html.

Usually one person files the bug report then interested parties try to 
reproduce as a path to fixing it; or they can't repro it and either ask 
for more into or simply say "unable to reproduce" and ignore it.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] amix vs amerge / how to

2024-06-08 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 6/8/2024 5:46 PM, Media Mouth wrote:

ffmpeg version 3.1.11 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers


First thing is to get a modern version of ffmpeg, that one is positively 
_ancient_.


(And also not to top-post on this mailing list.)

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Low FPS with H.264 Encoding When Using -pix_fmt yuv420p

2024-05-22 Thread Carl Zwanzig

Hi,

On 5/22/2024 11:16 AM, Lisa wrote:

ffmpeg version 4.0.6 Copyright (c) 2000-2020 the FFmpeg developers


First thing is to try a modern version of ffmpeg, that one is positively 
ancient and pretty much unsupported.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] ffmepg mipi csi video cpature

2024-05-22 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 5/22/2024 5:09 AM, Nikhil via ffmpeg-user wrote:

i have updated from 4.x to 5.0 here is the output requested


Save some hassle and get a 7.x version. (Or at least 6.x.)

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Low FPS with H.264 Encoding When Using -pix_fmt yuv420p

2024-05-22 Thread Carl Zwanzig
Please post the complete command output with all the options and error 
messages, otherwise it's only guessing (see section 6 of 
https://ffmpeg.org//mailing-list-faq.html).


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Generate log keeping information appearing on screen

2024-05-01 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 5/1/2024 7:55 PM, CMG DiGiTaL wrote:

How do I generate the log, but keep the conversion information on the
screen as well?


(really a windoze question, not ffmpeg)

cmd.exe doesn't have an equivalent of the unix 'tee' command, but 
powershell does--



PS C:\Users\cpz> echo "asdsasad" |tee asdf.txt
asdsasad
PS C:\Users\cpz> type .\asdf.txt
asdsasad
PS C:\Users\cpz>

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Mpegts multiplexer problrems, incorrect work of -muxrate option

2024-04-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 4/5/2024 11:24 AM, Odessa TV wrote:

But it is not text, it is pictures, Can I paste pictures to the body
of the email?


We don't know that it's pictures without a description of them (missing) 
and often people include screenshots of the command output instead of 
the text (also missing).



As far as I remember, there were some restrictions on inserting
objects into the text. Or am I wrong?


This is really a text only mailing list although you can -attach- some 
files.


Please read the mailing list FAQ at 
https://ffmpeg.org//mailing-list-faq.html, especially section 6.1.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Mpegts multiplexer problrems, incorrect work of -muxrate option

2024-04-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 4/4/2024 12:17 PM, Odessa TV wrote:

Link to screenshots:


Please just copy/paste the text into an email. It usually takes up less 
space and is searchable.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Loudnorm filter changes bit depth

2024-03-23 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 3/23/2024 11:06 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

loudnorm is low quality filter, do not use it.


What do you suggest instead?

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Streams

2024-02-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/29/2024 3:43 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:

Well, the attachment, which was only 50kB, got stripped off. I'm trying again.


Probably because it's HTML. Just drop the text in the email or include a 
link to the page.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] ISSUE ABOUT libmp3lame AUDIO CODEC

2024-02-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/29/2024 8:09 AM, Hervé ANSELME wrote:

Is this because my command line is missing some parameters, and if so, which 
ones ?


Hard to tell because you haven't included the _complete_ command line.



Don't hesitate to let me know if you need any further technical
information ; thank you in advance for your advice and help.
As before, always post the complete and uncut command and output (as _text_ 
in the email, not an attached image).


See the FAQ at https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] ISSUE WITH LIBX265 CODEC

2024-02-27 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/27/2024 10:55 AM, Herv� ANSELME wrote:

and here are the technical infos, displayed by the program, in the DOS window :


Please just cut/paste the output into the email, no images, no attachments 
(also read the mailing list FAQ https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html).


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How to create error log file ffmpeg Loudnorm?

2024-02-24 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/24/2024 9:16 AM, CMG DiGiTaL wrote:

  [NULL @ 02738af86200] Unable to find a suitable output format for
'file=log.txt:level=16'
  file=log.txt:level=16: Invalid argument


"log.txt:level=16" is not a valid filename here (you're on windoze, I 
assume), you may need to escape the colon or the entire arg. And what are 
the *'s doing in that script?


Always start by posting the complete ffmpeg command and unedited output, 
that way we don't have to guess about what the script is doing.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Trouble with ffmpeg ... -f tee and specific encodings per output

2024-02-23 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/22/2024 12:11 AM, Nicolas George wrote:

Then the tee muxer is not suited to your needs.


To expand on that
21.53- "[Tee] is different from specifying several outputs to the ffmpeg 
command-line tool. With the tee muxer, the audio and video data will be 
encoded only once."


You need to use multiple output URLs and format options. Make a critical 
read of the first few sections of the doc 
(https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-all.html) and also see 
http://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Creating%20multiple%20outputs


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] FFmpeg Architecture

2024-02-13 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/13/2024 8:37 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote:

"read time"


reaL time

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] FFmpeg Architecture

2024-02-13 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/13/2024 12:24 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

Even if implemented properly it will not make real-time not working.
FFmpeg does not have real variable filter chains. Everything is static,
there are only filters that can be auto inserted once in a while.


Granted, AFAICT much of how ffmpeg is used is very much not "read time" as 
commonly understood in the computing/process-control world. it would be 
interesting if the filter chain could be modified conditionally, on a 
frame-by-frame basis, but that would definitely require some work. But a lot 
of this discussion hinges around a very nebulous idea of what any 
"scripting" would do, and without a better understanding of that it's hard 
to have meaningful discussion.


And. much of what might be considered "scripting" looks what others call 
using an "edit decision list" (EDL), and there are multiple ffmpeg-based 
packages that already implement those (e.g. OpenShot, Shotcut, Cinelarra 
etc) and with a nice UI :).


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] FFmpeg Architecture

2024-02-12 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/12/2024 3:31 PM, Bouke / Videotoolshed wrote:

Go away, or at least shut up.


I encourage you do do that if you can't add to the conversation.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] FFmpeg Architecture

2024-02-12 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/12/2024 2:59 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

I doubt anything above applies to FFmpeg, also I doubt it makes difference
for real-time streaming.


Hmm, actually it looks like a lot of it could apply if implemented properly 
(there are a fair few video programs which implement some form of scripting, 
OBS for one). And from the right angle, the variable filter chains could be 
considered "scripting", too.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Big missmatch In format duration (ffmpeg V6)

2024-02-11 Thread Carl Zwanzig

Hello,

Please read the mailing list FAQ at 
https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html, it tells users to post the 
complete and unedited command and output and not to top-post.


Also, it's a lot easier for us humans to read the default output than JSON 
and there's important info like the build information. It's not clear to me 
which "format duration" is questionable and what it should be.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Big missmatch In format duration (ffmpeg V6)

2024-02-11 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/11/2024 2:14 AM, Avraham Sikirov via ffmpeg-user wrote:


Link to video and outputs:


Please put the command outputs in the email message, not as an attachment or 
gdrive, it's much easier for everyone to see and read.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Why are these different?

2024-02-07 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/7/2024 10:34 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

Okay. Why are they different?


Because the containers are different? An mp4 container is not the same as an 
mkv (or avi or mpeg), they must have different demuxers.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] The Guild

2024-02-01 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/1/2024 11:26 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:


There needs to be an FFmpeg Guild and there needs to be an FFmpeg industry. 
You guys/gals need to make a living. How can we make that happen?


Why does there need to be a "guild"? If you want one, start one.

Second, a cloud-based book that people buy. It would have to have a reader 
that people buy. The reader would read an encrypted cloud, would be 
read-only, would resist host probing/capture/screenshots, and would save 
_nothing_ locally.


Again, why? (And of course a book would have a copyright, but that has 
little to do with how distribution is licensed.)


You do not seem to understand open-source projects at all.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How to use the ffmpeg to real-time base TS analyze ?

2024-01-15 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 1/15/2024 4:40 AM, Nandor Nemoda wrote:

I have a*PCI*  broadcast video card


Which card? Only some have ffmpeg support and often the drivers aren't 
considered "free" so you have to build ffmpeg yourself to include them.


OTOH, when you say "transport stream" do you mean mgep-ts, SDI, or something 
else? A little more detail would help.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] '-t' versus '-to'

2024-01-14 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 1/13/2024 10:26 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:

For example:
-ss 20.061708 -to 5570.815250
would be
-frametrim 481..134046
meaning frame 481 thru frame 134046.


Although IME it much more common to specify the frame number after a dot* 
but ffmpeg doesn't seem to do that. (There may be North American vs Europe 
vs Asiatic regional conventions on this.)


*hh:mm:ss.ff, or occasionally hh:mm:ss:ff, but the latter is ambiguous if 
either hh or ff are omitted


Perhaps some day I'll look at the command arg time parser to see what 
assumptions are made and where they're documented.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] '-t' versus '-to'

2024-01-13 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 1/13/2024 7:37 PM, DEF wrote:

other times you want to trim, you know your start time and end time
but perhaps you are lazy to calculate the duration.


Or don't see a need because you know the points :), AFAICT most human 
editors work that way.



the you use -to to denote your_position_  in the video  as in

-ss 00:12:03 -to 15:04:08 for example.


Brings another question- if you want to select 15 seconds and no additional 
frames starting at 00:00:03.0 do you give the out point as 00:00:18.0 or 
:17.999 or :17.29 (for a frame count, not a fraction of a second)? I suspect 
.999 will do the job, but it's cumbersome and not as simple to calculate. (I 
prefer frame numbers, myself.)


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Decoding performance, 6.1.1 vs. 4.4.4

2024-01-10 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 1/10/2024 4:18 AM, Ren� J. V. Bertin wrote:

(sorry for the linebreaks, I'm posting via a newsgroup app.)


(Use an email program instead?)


To me this looks like there's been a regression that causes an increased
overhead in getting the content onto and/or off the GPU.


Have you controlled for the graphics drivers (same for each build)?
Also, try doing both builds with the same compiler.



Is that possible? Could it have to do with the fact that FFmpeg6 auto-enables
support for hw-acceleration via Vulkan (a moot selling point on this hardware)
and if so would it help to disable that support?


Definitely disable it for a better comparison, there may be extra steps in 
the data pathways which could affect the speed.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Carrying arbitrary data track from TS to mp4

2024-01-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig
Please include the complete & unedited ffmpeg command output in the email, 
that'll show everyone info about the stream(s) in question as well as the 
ffmpeg version.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Question about random() expression

2023-12-27 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 12/27/2023 3:54 PM, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
The documentation says, "x is the index of the internal variable which will 
be used to save the seed/state." 
(https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-all.html#Expression-Evaluation). I don't know 
what it means by "index of the internal variable", and I don't know what 
"save" means. In a function named random(), I expect the parameter to be 
used as a seed. I guess this is one of the places where one has to read the 
source code.


I also suspect that "read the source" is the answer, but also recall from 
decades past that some systems (e.g. BASIC) needed a "randomize" statement 
in order to get off their usual starting point.


Off to the source :).

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 12/25/2023 1:04 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:


Huh? "720x480 video with a display aspect ratio of 16:9" is what's on most 
'NTSC' DVDs.


Huh? The vast majority of DVDs I've handled were 4:3 then maybe letterboxed 
to only show some wide-screen size (like 2.33:1). Only more recent content 
was shot at 16:9, but AFAIK it's still coming of the disk as 720x480 or 
704x480 (don't forget that one).


Remember that almost everything involved with color NTSC is a kludge, and 
digital encoding of it is a kludge built on a kludge. Do not expect too much 
logic.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] DTS discontinuity

2023-12-24 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 12/22/2023 3:24 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:

The log below is a version I cooked up to show 'N' only for I-frames.


Um, what's the actual command? There aren't a lot of options to ffprobe, but 
it's still good to show the command anyway.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] kmsgrab and audio problem

2023-12-11 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 12/10/2023 12:47 AM, KoreanFanOfficial wrote:

How i can[...]?


You're asking for help yet don't want to play by the simple rules of the 
list). Some of them are-


* Always show your actual, unscripted ffmpeg command and the complete, uncut 
console output from your command.
* Use the most simple and minimal command that still shows the issue you are 
encountering.
* Provide all necessary information so others can attempt to duplicate your 
issue. This includes the actual command, complete uncut console output, and 
any inputs that are required to duplicate the issue.

*  Avoid top-posting. Also see What is top-posting?
(https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html#toc-What-are-the-rules-and-the-proper-etiquette_003f)


Oh, and the referenced Code of Conduct says-
* Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. Treat others 
the way you yourself want to be treated.

(https://ffmpeg.org/community.html#Code-of-conduct)


If you really do want some help, please stop insulting people and provide 
the information. If you don't want assistance, keep it up and you probably 
won't get any.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] kmsgrab and audio problem

2023-12-10 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 12/10/2023 1:58 AM, KoreanFanOfficial wrote:

With this code:

[...]

That is not the complete _unedited_ output which often contains important 
information, like the ffmpeg build.


Please read the FAQ at https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html.

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[FFmpeg-user] The unsubscribe process

2023-11-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/29/2023 9:18 AM, David Bernat wrote:

You misinterpreted the response. I have emailed the correct unsubscribe
link several times.

(emailed a link??? what does that mean?)

In the footer of every message-
> https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user
>
> To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email
> ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".

Dropping "Please unsubscribe" in an existing message thread won't do it, you 
have to send the correct subject ("unsubscribe") to the correct address 
(ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org).


Or visit the link above, enter your email, press "unsub", and wait for the 
confirmation email.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/28/2023 4:09 AM, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user wrote:

The thing which makes all this a bit difficult is whether it's possible
(or easy) to prove that a given distributed binary is actually compiled
from the source code one is offering. I'm not sure that this has ever
been tested in court - most of the (L)GPL stuff hasn't, much - but it's
not obvious to how someone could prove that if there were ever a
dispute.


FWIW, BusyBox has taken on some commercial organizations to court and 
prevailed, search "busybox copyright lawsuit" and you'll get things like


https://softwarefreedom.org/news/2009/dec/14/busybox-gpl-lawsuit/
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/08/court-rules-gpl-part-of-a-well-pleaded-case/ 
(summary judgement)

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2537947/open-source-legal-group-strikes-again-on-busybox--suing-verizon.html

So whether or not you agree with the current licensing structure, if you 
want to use ffmpeg components you have to play by those rules.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-27 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/27/2023 9:50 AM, Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena wrote:

Is there a possibility to gradually move away from *GPL to a more liberal
license? E.g. Apache 2.0 and/or MIT and/or BSD.


That's unlikely as overall ffmpeg has contributions from many authors and 
they'd all have to agree (also note the "non-free" compile option).


While I'm not a big fan of the GPL, what restrictions does it impose that 
are objectionable?


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Compiling FFmpeg for nvidia hardware encoding on Debian 12

2023-11-27 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/27/2023 9:23 AM, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote:

If you need only ffmpeg - you can try and skip those dependencies 


Or add --disable-ffplay (and maybe --disable-ffprobe) to the configure line. 
If you don't need the player, why build it?


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Need to reduce size of ffmpeg.exe

2023-11-14 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/14/2023 2:26 PM, Kumar, Rahul via ffmpeg-user wrote:

After this I ran "make" and "make install" command which created 1.2 mb
ffmpeg.exe in bin folder. This ffmpeg.exe is not working for me. Can
somebody guide me if I am missing anything here?

What does "not working" mean?
Where there any build warnings or errors?

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Seeking Efficient Video Redaction Using FFMPEG with Limited Memory Usage

2023-11-08 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/7/2023 3:34 PM, Nicolas George wrote:

Libavfilter is at least linear in the number of filters for each single
step of the filtering. That means a filter graph with 2000 filters will
take at least 200 times as much power than a graph with 10 filters.
Really a lot more, because larger graphs tend to be deeper too.


Does 'power' in this case mean cpu usage or something else? How about 
memory- does a filter chain hold all the intermediate frames or discard them 
(deallocate the memory) once a particular filter has executed.


(Or point me to a place in the code to look at this; I'm not afraid of 
reading the code if I know where to start.)


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Requesting colormatrix advice

2023-11-07 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/7/2023 10:10 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

I never assume anything without sufficient facts and data I can confirm
again and again using proven solutions and procedures.


And yet, you seem to know enough to tell people that they're wrong, and do 
so without telling them exactly what's wrong and how to correct it. Sounds 
like that's being "More extremely lazy".


"but as usual you misinterpret it almost always via your logic fallacies."
Missing was an explanation of what those supposed logic fallacies are and 
how they're false.


"I can answer it, but I guess OP will listen to your usual misinformation."
How do you know they will? Is it actually "misinformation" (still not 
answered)? Why didn't you answer it correctly in the first place?



Oh, and don't bother again saying that I (or Mark, or Phil, etc) should be 
banned.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Requesting colormatrix advice

2023-11-07 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/7/2023 10:05 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

Documentation is there and its 99.99% correct and maintained, but as usual
you misinterpret it almost always via your logic fallacies.


Tell us what's wrong.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Seeking Efficient Video Redaction Using FFMPEG with Limited Memory Usage

2023-11-07 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/7/2023 10:00 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

I can answer it,


Then DO SO! There's no reason to hold back.


but I guess OP will listen to your usual misinformation.


What is misinformation? Tell us. If you can't or won't, then maybe what I 
said is actually correct.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Seeking Efficient Video Redaction Using FFMPEG with Limited Memory Usage

2023-11-07 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/7/2023 9:40 AM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

Do you have actual proof for such claims?


I do not need to "prove" my opinion. You're free to agree or not, and if you 
feel it's not correct or appropriate to provide other information. (I do 
know from my own experience that what I think the OP was taking about is 
fairly easy in OpenShot. You can accept that or not.)


Or, _you_ could actually try to help the OP and answer their questions. You 
have not done so, and seldom do at all.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Seeking Efficient Video Redaction Using FFMPEG with Limited Memory Usage

2023-11-07 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 11/6/2023 9:13 AM, sreekar manchukonda wrote:


I'm seeking help on how to utilize ffmpeg to apply an extensive number of
filters—specifically over 2000, each filter including a crop, boxblur, and
overlay—to a video over an hour long. 


This is a single video, being processed once, with 2000 filters being 
applied? That in itself sounds like a recipe for disaster, and that a more 
purpose-built editing system would do a better job (e.g. openshot or 
shotcut, both are open-source). You may be able to create an EDL (Edit 
Decision List) from your filters to drive the editor software.


If you have storage space, you could also use uncompressed intermediate 
files and successively run smaller groups of filters on them.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Calculate file size for lossless encoding

2023-10-01 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 10/1/2023 8:41 AM, Ulf Zibis wrote:

So here it compresses with factor ~11, wow, great performance for ultrafast.


Depends a lot on the content, of course. One of the great things, 
compression-wise, with screen grabs is that there is usually very little to 
no change frame-to-frame over most of the screen, and that makes for much 
lower bandwidth (which is recording those changes).


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is there any good reason why FFmpeg doesn't do "-vcodec copy" automatically.

2023-09-30 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/30/2023 12:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
is there a good reason to throw a video file through ffmpeg when you don't 
want to touch it?


Changing the container or working only with the audio or subtitle tracks.

So yes, there is a good reason.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is there an equivalent of Drobox Lepton but for h.264 videos?

2023-09-30 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/30/2023 7:00 AM, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote:

well, h264 videos already heavy and usually lossy compressed, any further
compression will be not lossless


There's one-way compression that reduces size by throwing away data (e.g. 
jpg) and two-way compression that reduces size but the result can't be used 
without reversal (e.g. gzip/lzma, etc). Dropbox Lepton is one of the latter; 
it's also been deprecated by Dropbox - https://github.com/dropbox/lepton.



Often it's more precise to talk about "image compression" vs "file 
compression". Media and graphics people usually seem to mean one-way 
compression while computer people usually mean two-way.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] buffer underflow (?)

2023-09-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/29/2023 2:25 PM, Mark Filipak wrote:


On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 12:59 PM Carl Zwanzig  wrote:

-bsf[:stream_specifier] bitstream_filters (output,per-stream)
:a will do the audio, :s for subtitles, etc
(that's in the doc)


No, it's not in the doc. 


It surely is, that's where I quoted it from-
https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-all.html#Advanced-options and about 300 lines down 
(or search for "-bsf"). It's around line 1760 of doc/ffmpeg.texi in the 
source tree. (You could also look at 
https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-bitstream-filters.html)


Those are documentation for ffmpeg, pretty much the reference set unless you 
read the source code.



And the 'doc' are programmer documentations, not user documentation.
Where did you get -that- idea? (User doc has been a thing for at least 50 
years, I still have some of those books, and probably a lot longer.)



BTW, the text "underflow" only appears maybe 20 times in the copy of the 
source I have handy (I'm not going to update just for this).


Possibly the most relevant ones are-
libavformat/mpegenc.c:   "buffer underflow st=%d bufi=%d 
size=%d\n",
libavcodec/ratecontrol.c:av_log(s->avctx, AV_LOG_ERROR, "rc 
buffer underflow\n");


but we don't know _because_we_don't_have_the_console_output_.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] buffer underflow (?)

2023-09-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/29/2023 9:45 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:


Carl, please enlighten me:
If I '-bsf:v setts...' that appears to only affect video. Duh...


-bsf[:stream_specifier] bitstream_filters (output,per-stream)
:a will do the audio, :s for subtitles, etc
(that's in the doc)


Is there a global 'setts'-type directive that will simultaneously fix up
PTSs/DTSs/time_base for video, audio, subtitles, and chapters?
I expect that three -bsf: options in a row would do the job but haven't 
tried it.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] buffer underflow (?)

2023-09-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/29/2023 9:29 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 12:05 PM Carl Zwanzig  wrote:



But you can pull down the code

I could...


and read the concat muxer,

Yes...


which shouldn't be difficult if you've down real-time coding.

I don't read 'C'. My code is micro.


It's not difficult (and many people haved use 'c' on all manner of tiny 
processors, I did for z-80s). You could also look at a 'c' language 
primer (or- at least put some effort into it; anyone who's written RT 
assembler code should be able to follow the flow and structure).




(Sigh!) You're asking me to reproduce a couple of days of work, and in
the right order. I'll try. But I've gotten "buffer underflow" errors
in the past, many times, and never really thought about it. Now I'm
thinking about and it doesn't make sense. But I'll try to reproduce
it.


You're asking everyone else what an ambiguous error message means with only 
the barest of information; often that gets only the barest of response.


Later,

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] buffer underflow (?)

2023-09-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/29/2023 8:42 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

I do need help. I didn't write ffmpeg.


But you can pull down the code and read the concat muxer, which shouldn't be 
difficult if you've down real-time coding. There have been more than a 
couple of times when simply searching for the error message led me to the 
code and reading that lead me to what I needed to know. (I've even posted 
some of that research here.)



To answer one question- Why "buffer underflow"? Maybe it's the wrong error 
message for a specific condition _but_ we'll never have a clue without 
seeing console output (which, as Harald points out, you should know is 
appropriate).


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] ffmpeg retry failed segments

2023-09-27 Thread Carl Zwanzig

Please do not top-post on this list.


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And also please remove extra junk like the -four- footers which had already 
accumulated.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] FFPLAY

2023-09-19 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/19/2023 11:05 AM, Def Etienne wrote:

And ffplay might not be the recommend tool for your tasks.


"FFplay is a very simple and portable media player using the FFmpeg 
libraries and the SDL library. It is mostly used as a testbed for the 
various FFmpeg APIs." (https://ffmpeg.org/ffplay.html, which should also 
answer the question of how to select a stream)



Try the mpv player to use the command line.


Or mplayer, or vlc, or Most players have enough control from the command 
line.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Best media converter container for IPCam network streams

2023-09-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/14/2023 3:33 AM, Giuseppe Modugno wrote:
First question: could ffmpeg save the stream in a "raw" format as it is 
received from RTSP, without too much problems? 

Probably...

I don't need to play the 
video continuously, only when I want. Only at that moment, I could use 
ffmpeg to join segments and transcode to mp4. In this case the transcoding 
is limited in time and only for short videos.


(Only need to transcode to mp4 if the player doesn't support the other 
codecs, otherwise it's an extra step; but see below.)


Second question: is there another media container format that could be 
better to use in my situation?


I prefer mkv for resiliency, but opinions differ on that. I also wouldn't 
think twice about transcoding as received and writing that to files; it'll 
save time and hassle in the future as you've normalized the format. Or, 
transcode only the ones that are "weird" to solve the container issue and 
leave the rest alone. (Pay attention to frame and audio sampling rates; 
there's no point in transcoding 8k/sec audio to 48k or to a high-bit-rate 
encoding if you can avoid it.)


What's the output storage? May want to trade off encoding overhead for 
storage size.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Make conversion go faster

2023-09-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/15/2023 12:02 AM, Ferdi Scholten wrote:
Your speed might be limited by system constraints, like IO speed, cpu speed, 
number of cores, load and memory size/speed etc.


Exactly!!
You can't "speed something up" unless you know why it's slower than 
desirable, and that'll require a bit of monitoring system resources. (On 
windoze, I suggest starting with the SysInternal process explorer, it's both 
good and free.)



Alexander and others- please do not top-post on this mailing list (see 
https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html, which among other things says to 
try with the latest version first).


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] No compiled with -fPIC for libavcodec/aarch64/vp9mc_16bpp_neon.S

2023-09-12 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/11/2023 10:19 PM, Peng Gao wrote:

  I compiled ffmpeg(4.3.1)


In addition to the earlier comments, why are you working with such an old 
version?


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Default audio stream -- how do I set it?

2023-09-10 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/10/2023 8:35 AM, Mark Filipak wrote:

Which of the dozens of failing ffmpeg commands that I've tried do you
want?


How about "any of them"? Maybe include a few of failing commands without the 
output so we can see what's been tried?


(You've been on the list for a while, you know people want to see the 
output. And that would have told us 'mp4' without having to ask.)


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How To Fix No Sound on Ubuntu in Hyper-V

2023-08-28 Thread Carl Zwanzig




On 8/28/2023 5:58 AM, Anatoly wrote:

2.  is the IP right ? 0.0.0.0. :18181 looks odd, isn't it ?



Right. 0.0.0.0 dees mean accept incoming connections on all network
interfaces of your machine.


But you have '-i' before the URL, making it an input.

What is this "Jacob's trick" mentioned in the first email? What are you 
actually trying to do? More into goes a long way to finding problems 
even if they seem simple or obvious.


There are quite a lot of web pages that give examples of using ffmpeg to 
originate a stream.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How To Fix No Sound on Ubuntu in Hyper-V

2023-08-28 Thread Carl Zwanzig

It seems that a lot of concepts are being mixed here-

What are you actually trying to do? Run ffmpeg in a VM or in windows? 
Serve content outbound or play something?



On 8/26/2023 3:14 AM, ape...@free.fr wrote:

First, I've installed ffmpeg 6.0 both on VMUbuntu and the host machine
Windows.



Then under Windows Power Shell the command : ffplay -nodisp -ac 2 -acodec
pcm_s16le -ar 48000 -analyzeduration 0 -probesize 32 -f s16le -i 
udp://0.0.0.0:18181?listen=1
 > I get lots of data (see below)

That's just the start-up message, there could be a -lot- more.



My questions :

1.  How could I know the ffmpeg server is really launched ? Via Task
Manager, I dont see anything, neither Process, nor Services

> 2. is the IP right ? 0.0.0.0. :18181 looks odd, isn't it ?

server? It you're trying to play something from a link it must point to 
the source (thus the IP is definitely wrong). If you're trying make it 
available to another player, nothing to play is specified.



You don't need to use powershell to run the windows executables, cmd.exe 
is fine.


What part does the VM ubuntu play in this? How does ffmpeg behave when 
running in the VM?


(Please copy/paste the command output into the body of the email instead 
of doing screen captures, that's much easier for people to see).


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] How to drawtext hh:mm:ss:ff timecode (on an old version ffmpeg)

2023-08-15 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 8/15/2023 1:35 PM, Media Mouth wrote:

Seems to be a problem with the \:13, based on this error:


Try it with a '.' or ',' there instead of a colon, hh:mm:ss.ff is a common 
format and the time parser may be choking in the 3rd colon.


(Also try with something newer than version 4.2.2.)

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] h264_v4l2m2m won't write to .mkv

2023-03-06 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 3/6/2023 10:39 AM, Neale Pickett wrote:
ffmpeg version 4.4.2-0ubuntu0.22.04.1 Copyright (c) 2000-2021 


May not make a difference, but try it with a recent build, at least a 5.x 
version; you can get a somewhat more recent static build at 
https://johnvansickle.com/ffmpeg/ although there may be newer ones elsewhere.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] h264_v4l2m2m won't write to .mkv

2023-03-06 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 3/6/2023 10:20 AM, Neale Pickett wrote:
 ffmpeg -y -hide_banner 


When asking questions, do not use -hide_banner, it conceals 
possibly-important information (please read the list FAQ, linked from the 
list info page). A few blanks lines for readability wouldn't hurt, either.


Have you tried this with a similar MP4 file or is it just this one file?

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] ffmpeg first_PTS value range and min_comp, min_hard_comp

2023-03-03 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 3/3/2023 12:44 PM, Amar Mash wrote:

Could anyone help here ?


a) sometimes it'll take a day or two for someone to respond, sometimes no 
one will; no one is being paid to answer questions here.


b) please do not "top-post" on this list (don't put the reply above the 
quoted material).


c) you may need to look at the source code for the filter to see what the 
value ranges are.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Lipsync of a UDP stream

2023-03-01 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 3/1/2023 2:24 PM, Amar Mash wrote:

What do you do when audio is in sync (lip sync) at times and off at other
times ?


How can you programmatically tell? I don't know of an easy way.

(The other thing to do is not top-post on this mailing list.)

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Repeatable resolution issue exporting mxfs, 1080p is coming out as 1088p

2023-02-27 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/27/2023 2:50 PM, William Jones wrote:

It seems that when converting .movs it knows that
although the maths says 1088 we actually want 1080 and forces it through...
Unfortunately it doesn't do the same with mxfs!


Maybe that's the "bug" here (or "undocumented feature" if you prefer).

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Help with converting .avi to mp4

2023-02-12 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/12/2023 11:57 AM, Vincent Deconinck wrote:

I mean -i
See https://ffmpeg.org/


-i (input) on the ffmpeg command
-l (long) on the ls command
There is a lot of useful info about how command lines are interpreted in the 
first couple sections of the ffmpeg doc.




Please post more details if you need more help :-)


Jeff- also please see section 6 of https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is there a way to modify every mpegts file when downloading a m3u8 stream?

2023-02-11 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/11/2023 7:03 AM, accelerator0099 wrote:

When you run

ffmpeg -i "https://url.to.some.videos/some_stream.m3u8"; -o whatever.mp4

[...]

It's really hard to tell what's going on without the required command 
output. Please read the FAQ at https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html and 
especially section 6.


Also, as a test try simply copying the stream into a file; that is, write it 
to a mpegts file instead of re-coding to mp4.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Any way to estimate moov_size in mov/mp4?

2023-02-10 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/10/2023 2:26 PM, Stefan Oltmanns wrote:

 Can someone
simply explain what exactly is stored in the moov atom (not in theory
what everything could be in there, but what ffmpeg actually writes there
like "video codec information: x byte, audio codec information: x byte,
timecode+byteoffset: x byte for each frame and so on)


In the ffmpeg source it appears to be in libavformat/mov.c and movenc.c, but 
the info actually included will vary with what's being stuffed into the 
container.


Sidestepping the question, there are decent write-ups at
https://atomicparsley.sourceforge.net/mpeg-4files.html
https://www.cimarronsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Elements-of-the-H.264-VideoAAC-Audio-MP4-Movie-v2_0.pdf

And while it's old, you could grab a copy of AtomicParsley and see what's in 
various test files.


(Please do not top-post on this mailing list, thanks.)

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Any way to estimate moov_size in mov/mp4?

2023-02-10 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/10/2023 3:20 AM, Bouke / Videotoolshed wrote:

Faststart is for internet / network playing only, when the entire file is not 
yet available.


Not only for network playback; maybe often used for that but there's no 
reason to limit the use.



If movflags faststart is needed, it should be darn fast as your files
’should’ be fairly small, as they are intended for (relative) low
bandwith. > There is NO penalty for having the MOOV atom at the end if a file is
local, as parsing all atoms will not take longer than a few secs if the
file is local.
It's difficult to characterize a 2 hour FHD (or 4k) video file as small or 
intended for low bandwidth, and there -is- a penalty ("a few seconds"). Many 
playout servers will play from MP4 files and "a few seconds" is a few too 
long when a specific file is to play. Some software will pre-open the file 
and start it on time, but that's no reason to not put the necessary info at 
the head of the file. (The OP also says "As the produced files are very big 
anyway I don't mind wasting a few MB by overestimating.")


It would be interesting to see how accurate Bouke's technique is for 
estimating the moov atom size; probably close enough but confirmation is 
always good.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] errors in encoding avc x264 to av1 using latest ffmpeg libaom linux

2023-02-06 Thread Carl Zwanzig

Hello,

Please do not top-post on this list (that is, place your reply -below- what 
you're quoting, not above (yes, you can do this with gmail).


On 2/2/2023 5:42 PM, Guddla Rupesh wrote:

Another intresting thing is that I have to downloaded the source code tar
ball of ffmpeg from its original site and it's size was 11 mb while the
size of source code from git was 390 mb.


If you did a 'git clone' from the repo, you will have downloaded not only 
the current version of everything, but all the history, too (in the .git 
directory).


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Code of Conduct & Mailing list rules & Community Committee

2023-02-06 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/5/2023 10:48 PM, Kieran O Leary wrote:

I'm really glad that some action has been taken.


Same here.

In addition, can/has the FAQ link been added to the list's Welcome message? 
That might help new members know what's expected.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] ffmpeg list FAQ- for those who can't click a link

2023-02-04 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/4/2023 12:07 PM, Dave Blanchard wrote:

I'm sure there's somebody out there, probably some "idiot" noob, who
"can't click a link", who will greatly appreciate your link.

Actually, I wrote it for the noob who thinks it doesn't apply to them-
"I don't have time to familiarize myself with the 6,282,928 special 
snowflake unique rule systems that every special snowflake community on the 
planet expects everyone to memorize and be intimately familiar with at all 
times. "



There's nothing "snowflake" about the FAQ's Rules and Etiquette and they're 
pretty normal and standard for technical mailing lists, I assume you're on a 
few besides this one.


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[FFmpeg-user] ffmpeg list FAQ- for those who can't click a link

2023-02-04 Thread Carl Zwanzig
These are not very different from the rules/guidelines of most of the 
technical mailing lists I'm on or have managed. If you can't be bothered to 
read the FAQ for a list you affirmatively joined, maybe you shouldn't have 
joined it in the first place.


These are also generally good rules to live by, especially the first in 
section 4.


z!


https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html



4 Code of conduct

Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. Treat others 
the way you yourself want to be treated.


Be considerate. Not everyone shares the same viewpoint and priorities as you 
do. Different opinions and interpretations help the project. Looking at 
issues from a different perspective assists development.


Do not assume malice for things that can be attributed to incompetence. Even 
if it is malice, it�s rarely good to start with that as initial assumption.


Stay friendly even if someone acts contrarily. Everyone has a bad day once 
in a while. If you yourself have a bad day or are angry then try to take a 
break and reply once you are calm and without anger if you have to.


Try to help other team members and cooperate if you can.

The goal of software development is to create technical excellence, not for 
any individual to be better and "win" against the others. Large software 
projects are only possible and successful through teamwork.


If someone struggles do not put them down. Give them a helping hand instead 
and point them in the right direction.


Finally, keep in mind the immortal words of Bill and Ted, "Be excellent to 
each other."




6.1 What are the rules and the proper etiquette?

There may seem to be many things to remember, but we want to help and 
following these guidelines will allow you to get answers more quickly and 
help avoid getting ignored.


Always show your actual, unscripted ffmpeg command and the complete, 
uncut console output from your command.
Use the most simple and minimal command that still shows the issue you 
are encountering.
Provide all necessary information so others can attempt to duplicate 
your issue. This includes the actual command, complete uncut console output, 
and any inputs that are required to duplicate the issue.
Use the latest ffmpeg build you can get. See the FFmpeg Download page 
for links to recent builds for Linux, macOS, and Windows. Or compile from 
the current git master branch.

Avoid top-posting. Also see What is top-posting?
Avoid hijacking threads. Thread hijacking is replying to a message and 
changing the subject line to something unrelated to the original thread. 
Most email clients will still show the renamed message under the original 
thread. This can be confusing and these types of messages are often ignored.
Do not send screenshots. Copy and paste console text instead of making 
screenshots of the text.
Avoid sending email disclaimers and legalese if possible as this is a 
public list.
Avoid using the -loglevel debug, -loglevel quiet, and -hide_banner 
options unless requested to do so.
If you attach files avoid compressing small files. Uncompressed is 
preferred.
Please do not send HTML-only messages. The mailing list will ignore the 
HTML component of your message. Most mail clients will automatically include 
a text component: this is what the mailing list will use.
Configuring your mail client to break lines after 70 or so characters 
is recommended.

Avoid sending the same message to multiple mailing lists.
Please follow our Code of Conduct.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] New user question

2023-02-03 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/3/2023 9:22 AM, Dave Blanchard wrote:

And how would that help this situation in any way?

In this one particular case, maybe not, but we don't necessary know.

So, why include that?
Because it would contain the build info, which may be relevant.
Because it contains info about the input and output streams.
Because the list FAQ (you have read it, haven't you?) asks for it.

There is seldom a reason you leave out the complete command and output; most 
of us would rather see it than have to ask, and more often than not it is 
needed.


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