Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-04-05 Thread CMG DiGiTaL
Ok Paul, nice to know about the FLAC encoder, I'll check it out!
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-04-04 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 6:53 PM Carl Zwanzig  wrote:

> On 3/31/2022 1:19 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > Provocations are not tolerated here.
>
> Really? What changed?
>
>
If you keep provocative behavior, then you will be banned.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-04-04 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 3/31/2022 1:19 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:

Provocations are not tolerated here.


Really? What changed?

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-31 Thread Reindl Harald




Am 31.03.22 um 22:19 schrieb Paul B Mahol:

P.S.: Let's see what kind of insults this contribution provokes.


Provocations are not tolerated here


lol
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-31 Thread Reindl Harald




Am 31.03.22 um 21:56 schrieb Wolfgang Hugemann:

because I can create .bat files and convert multiple files at once.


The original FLAC encoder also has a command line interface, and I 
actually used it for bulk conversion of WAVs via batch. For just audio 
conversion, I would rather use the original software than ffmpeg



people don't realize that for most cases ffmpeg is just a wrapper and 
for mp3 as example ikt's still too dumb for joint-stereo after decades 
(impressive given that it uses lame which clearly supports it)

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-31 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 9:12 PM Wolfgang Hugemann  wrote:

> I would rather use FLACs original frontend (than ffmpeg), which also
> provides a nice Windows GUI interface. FLAC conversion is also included
> in a variety of software products, i.e. Exact Audio Copy, which I used
> to rip all my music CDs.
>
> Wolfgang Hugemann
>
> P.S.: Let's see what kind of insults this contribution provokes.
>

Provocations are not tolerated here.


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-31 Thread Wolfgang Hugemann

because I can create .bat files and convert multiple files at once.


The original FLAC encoder also has a command line interface, and I 
actually used it for bulk conversion of WAVs via batch. For just audio 
conversion, I would rather use the original software than ffmpeg.


In regard to VBR: I would rather consider this as an inevitable 
consequence of entropy compression: More repetitive sections of the WAV 
(say a single note repeated several times) will be compressed more 
effectively than more complex parts of the WAV. Nothing to worry about.


Wolfgang Hugemann
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-30 Thread CMG DiGiTaL
>
> well, that's a number for new tracks where i consider before or after
> the first coffee - OK, to be honest for 1800 songs it may take two hours
> including start playing and flag ballads in the ID3-Tags :-)
>
> 83490 tracks
> 78796 unique tracks (filtered live/unpligged..)
> 76069 lyrics
>
> 255 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes
> 7080 in 2022-03
>

ha ha ha... it's a lot of music!... I have a maximum of 50.000, it's just
that on the
PC I only have 1800, the rest is on an external hard drive.
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald




Am 31.03.22 um 00:24 schrieb CMG DiGiTaL:

I have approximately 1800 songs on my PC


well, that's a number for new tracks where i consider before or after 
the first coffee - OK, to be honest for 1800 songs it may take two hours 
including start playing and flag ballads in the ID3-Tags :-)


83490 tracks
78796 unique tracks (filtered live/unpligged..)
76069 lyrics

255 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes
7080 in 2022-03

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-30 Thread CMG DiGiTaL
>
> I would rather use FLACs original frontend (than ffmpeg), which also
> provides a nice Windows GUI interface. FLAC conversion is also included
> in a variety of software products, i.e. Exact Audio Copy, which I used
> to rip all my music CDs.
>

Hi Wolfgang,

I also use Exact Audio Copy, the good thing about it is that we can use
ffmpeg
commands to create custom audio conversion settings. I'm learning about
ffmpeg
because I can create .bat files and convert multiple files at once. I have
approximately
1800 songs on my PC, so I create copies of what I want to convert into
folders and run
my .bat's in them, it speeds up my work a lot.

thanks
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-30 Thread Wolfgang Hugemann
I would rather use FLACs original frontend (than ffmpeg), which also 
provides a nice Windows GUI interface. FLAC conversion is also included 
in a variety of software products, i.e. Exact Audio Copy, which I used 
to rip all my music CDs.


Wolfgang Hugemann

P.S.: Let's see what kind of insults this contribution provokes.
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-29 Thread CMG DiGiTaL
>
> no - what you need to understand is what you deal with, no matter the
> topic - a foll with a tool is still a fool :-)
>


> in case of a LOSSLESS codec the bitrate don't matter - that's common
> sense - translate it to compression efficiency and by common sense it
> depends on the content


Ok, thanks.
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-29 Thread Reindl Harald




Am 29.03.22 um 22:20 schrieb CMG DiGiTaL:


seems like you still didn't understand the repsonse to your other thread
- FLAC is *lossless* - forget your MP3 knowledge when you deal with FLAC



  Reindl Harald,
What I really need to understand is Mediainfo!


no - what you need to understand is what you deal with, no matter the 
topic - a foll with a tool is still a fool :-)


in case of a LOSSLESS codec the bitrate don't matter - that's common 
sense - translate it to compression efficiency and by common sense it 
depends on the content

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-29 Thread CMG DiGiTaL
>
> seems like you still didn't understand the repsonse to your other thread
> - FLAC is *lossless* - forget your MP3 knowledge when you deal with FLAC
>

 Reindl Harald,
What I really need to understand is Mediainfo!

thanks
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-29 Thread CMG DiGiTaL
>
>  Default compression value in ffmpeg is 5
> So for maximum lossless compression use
> ffmpeg -i "input.wav" -af aformat=s16:44100 -c:a flac -compression_level
> 12 "output.flac"
>

 Okay Ferdi, thanks.
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-29 Thread Reindl Harald




Am 29.03.22 um 17:16 schrieb CMG DiGiTaL:

I'm using the command below to convert from wav to flac:
ffmpeg -i "input.wav" -af aformat=s16:44100 "output.flac"

The bit-depth and sample_rate are ok, but is the command converting the
audio from CBR to VBR


seems like you still didn't understand the repsonse to your other thread 
- FLAC is *lossless* - forget your MP3 knowledge when you deal with FLAC

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-29 Thread Ferdi Scholten

I'm using the command below to convert from wav to flac:

ffmpeg -i "input.wav" -af aformat=s16:44100 "output.flac"

The bit-depth and sample_rate are ok, but is the command converting the
audio from CBR to VBR.

What should I add in the above command, or what command should I use for
the audio to keep the
CBR format in the FLAC output?


Flac is by definition VBR, anything else would just be waste of space. 
It only just takes the amount of bytes needed for the specified 
compression level. This can be set between 1 and 12. All levels are 
lossless, the encoder just uses better and more computational expensive 
algorithms for encoding. With modern processors level 12 is relatively 
fast while in the early days of the standard (20 years ago) that level 
would exceed the playing time by several magnitudes. It did however not 
matter for decoding time. Default compression value in ffmpeg is 5


So for maximum lossless compression use

ffmpeg -i "input.wav" -af aformat=s16:44100 -c:a flac -compression_level 12 
"output.flac"

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[FFmpeg-user] Convert WAV to FLAC

2022-03-29 Thread CMG DiGiTaL
I'm using the command below to convert from wav to flac:
ffmpeg -i "input.wav" -af aformat=s16:44100 "output.flac"

The bit-depth and sample_rate are ok, but is the command converting the
audio from CBR to VBR.

What should I add in the above command, or what command should I use for
the audio to keep the
CBR format in the FLAC output?

See the conversion results below:

Input information WAV file:

Input #0, wav, from 'C:\Users\CMG\Desktop\Genesis - I Can't Dance.wav':
  Duration: 00:04:05.67, bitrate: 1411 kb/s
  Stream #0:0: Audio: pcm_s16le ([1][0][0][0] / 0x0001), 44100 Hz, 2
channels, s16, 1411 kb/s
"streams": [
{
"index": 0,
"codec_name": "pcm_s16le",
"codec_long_name": "PCM signed 16-bit little-endian",
"codec_type": "audio",
"codec_tag_string": "[1][0][0][0]",
"codec_tag": "0x0001",
"sample_fmt": "s16",
"sample_rate": "44100",
"channels": 2,
"bits_per_sample": 16,
"r_frame_rate": "0/0",
"avg_frame_rate": "0/0",
"time_base": "1/44100",
"duration_ts": 10833900,
"duration": "245.67",
"bit_rate": "1411200",

*Mediainfo* information input WAV file:

"@type": "Audio",
"Format": "PCM",
"Format_Settings_Endianness": "Little",
"Format_Settings_Sign": "Signed",
"CodecID": "1",
"Duration": "245.667",
   * "BitRate_Mode": "CBR",*
"BitRate": "1411200",
"Channels": "2",
"SamplingRate": "44100",
"SamplingCount": "10833900",
"BitDepth": "16",
"StreamSize": "43335600",
"StreamSize_Proportion": "1.0"



Output information FLAC file:

Output #0, flac, from 'C:\Users\CMG\Desktop\Genesis - I Can't Dance.flac':
  Metadata:
encoder : Lavf59.17.102
  Duration: 00:04:05.67, start: 0.00, bitrate: 881 kb/s
  Stream #0:0: Audio: flac, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16
"streams": [
{
"index": 0,
"codec_name": "flac",
"codec_long_name": "FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec)",
"codec_type": "audio",
"codec_tag_string": "[0][0][0][0]",
"codec_tag": "0x",
"sample_fmt": "s16",
"sample_rate": "44100",
"channels": 2,
"channel_layout": "stereo",
"bits_per_sample": 0,
"r_frame_rate": "0/0",
"avg_frame_rate": "0/0",
"time_base": "1/44100",
"start_pts": 0,
"start_time": "0.00",
"duration_ts": 10833900,
"duration": "245.67",
"bits_per_raw_sample": "16",
"extradata_size": 34,


*Mediainfo* information input FLAC file:

"@type": "Audio",
"Format": "FLAC",
"Duration": "245.666",
   * "BitRate_Mode": "VBR",*
"BitRate": "881543",
"Channels": "2",
"ChannelPositions": "Front: L R",
"ChannelLayout": "L R",
"SamplingRate": "44100",
"SamplingCount": "10833871",
"BitDepth": "16",
"Compression_Mode": "Lossless",
"StreamSize": "27070644",
"StreamSize_Proportion": "0.99969",
"Encoded_Library": "Lavf59.17.102"
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