Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-15 Thread Henk D. Schoneveld
On 15 Sep 2015, at 19:10, Richard F wrote: > On 15/09/2015 17:42, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> When old vdr recorded from satellite (into a program >> stream for which dvbsub are most likely not defined) >> why (or better:) how would the dvbsubs that were >>

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-15 Thread Moritz Barsnick
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 22:45:54 +0200, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: > VDR file format isn’t compliant to any ‘real’ standard, so I don’t > think you’ll find a solution here. Just my 2 cents. I think this is the core of the problem. VDR "documentation" (some forums and wikis were all I could find)

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-15 Thread Moritz Barsnick
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:57:02 +0200, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: > > (I found something else yesterday which explicitly claims to support > > the old PES files, but can't recall what that was.) > The current VDR also provides transport stream format, so the ‘old’ > vdr format is/will be

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-15 Thread Henk D. Schoneveld
On 15 Sep 2015, at 10:06, Moritz Barsnick wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 22:45:54 +0200, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: > >> VDR file format isn’t compliant to any ‘real’ standard, so I don’t >> think you’ll find a solution here. Just my 2 cents. > > I think this is the core of

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-15 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Richard F keynet-technology.com> writes: > Yes, the sources are most probably the most accurate way. > But ffprobe lists the stream contents as shown below > I was hoping somebody would spot something in there > that's stopping it decoding > > [STREAM] > index=3 > codec_name=dvdsub When old

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-15 Thread Richard F
On 15/09/2015 17:42, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > When old vdr recorded from satellite (into a program > stream for which dvbsub are most likely not defined) > why (or better:) how would the dvbsubs that were > transmitted suddenly become dvdsubs? I'm obviously not the author of vdr, so I can't

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-15 Thread Richard F
On 15/09/2015 09:06, Moritz Barsnick wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 22:45:54 +0200, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: >> VDR file format isn’t compliant to any ‘real’ standard, so I don’t >> think you’ll find a solution here. Just my 2 cents. > I think this is the core of the problem. VDR

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Henk D. Schoneveld
On 14 Sep 2015, at 12:02, Richard F wrote: > On 13/09/2015 22:18, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: >>> So are subtitles shown if you record for >50 minutes? >> Strange thing I see is, the log of your ProjectX show it’s DVB subtitle >> My version of ProjectX doesn’t show

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Richard F
I added 002.vdr to my Google drive - 17M This contains 15 subtitle pictures. The recording is from ITV3, the other was ITV2, but the timing offset issue is also present, as it is from BBC recordings Note that as I said before, ProjectX doesn't show subs onscreen, if you demux JUST the sub stream,

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Henk D. Schoneveld
On 14 Sep 2015, at 13:40, Richard F wrote: > I added 002.vdr to my Google drive - 17M > This contains 15 subtitle pictures. > The recording is from ITV3, the other was ITV2, but the timing offset > issue is also present, as it is from BBC recordings > Note that as I

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Richard F
On 14/09/2015 14:06, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: > I’m on OSX, and don’t want to fuzz around with all those subtitle stuff. > I just recorded a short piece from ITV. Is this what you are looking for ? > The original from satellite plays fine in VLC and the encoded one with ffmpeg. >

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Henk D. Schoneveld
Found another solution which plays with vlc. With mkvtoolnix chose the m2v mp2 and the idx file, start muxing and it will play with vlc http://we.tl/QoVxcLCw7H shows the result for 002.vdr On 14 Sep 2015, at 15:06, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: > > On 14 Sep 2015, at 13:40,

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Henk D. Schoneveld
1 step solution: Using tvheadend instead of VDR. 3 step solution: With VDR, you need to demux with ProjectX, ReMux with mkvtoolnix to an mkv and then encode with HandBrake. This doesn’t work with HD streams though, the 1st one does. On 14 Sep 2015, at 16:59, Henk D. Schoneveld

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Henk D. Schoneveld
On 14 Sep 2015, at 20:24, Richard F wrote: > On 14/09/2015 15:53, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: >> Found another solution which plays with vlc. With mkvtoolnix chose the m2v >> mp2 and the idx file, start muxing and it will play with vlc >> http://we.tl/QoVxcLCw7H >>

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Richard F
On 14/09/2015 15:53, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: > Found another solution which plays with vlc. With mkvtoolnix chose the m2v > mp2 and the idx file, start muxing and it will play with vlc > http://we.tl/QoVxcLCw7H > shows the result for 002.vdr Henk - thanks I can also do similar with ffmpeg, like

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Richard F
On 13/09/2015 22:18, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: >> So are subtitles shown if you record for >50 minutes? > Strange thing I see is, the log of your ProjectX show it’s DVB subtitle > My version of ProjectX doesn’t show any subtitle at all > Ffmpeg shows it as DVD subtitle > VLC Media Information

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-14 Thread Richard F
On 13/09/2015 23:02, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: > With ProjectX you can remux to a ts file. If all goes well, a valid ts > as the originals from recording from satellite/cable, it should work > with ffmpeg. I do the same with files from TV5, although not via the > VDR route but directly from

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-13 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Richard F keynet-technology.com> writes: > However ProjectX can extract and show the subtitles Sorry, I haven't used ProjectX for a very long time: How does it "show" the subtitles? > Link below is a small 12s sample (001.vdr) with 1 > subtitle in it (towards the end - in the commercial)

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-13 Thread Henk D. Schoneveld
On 13 Sep 2015, at 22:48, Richard F wrote: > On 13/09/2015 21:31, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> Richard F keynet-technology.com> writes: >>> I'm thinking some of the issue might be around the >>> lack of timing, the projectX log I put up shows subs >>> starting at

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-13 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Richard F keynet-technology.com> writes: > I'm thinking some of the issue might be around the > lack of timing, the projectX log I put up shows subs > starting at 00:48:48.562 So are subtitles shown if you record for >50 minutes? Carl Eugen ___

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-13 Thread Richard F
On 13/09/2015 20:41, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > However ProjectX can extract and show the subtitles > Sorry, I haven't used ProjectX for a very long time: > How does it "show" the subtitles? It only "shows" them by extracting the stream to the files that I put on Google drive. It is possible to

Re: [FFmpeg-user] VDR recording - dvd subtitle track not decoded

2015-09-13 Thread Henk D. Schoneveld
On 13 Sep 2015, at 23:18, Henk D. Schoneveld wrote: > > On 13 Sep 2015, at 22:48, Richard F wrote: > >> On 13/09/2015 21:31, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >>> Richard F keynet-technology.com> writes: I'm thinking some of the issue might be