Re: [FFmpeg-user] Copy all metadata fields?

2020-03-18 Thread Peter B.

On 18/03/2020 14:29, Kieran O Leary wrote:

On Wed 18 Mar 2020, 12:54 Peter B.,  wrote:

Oh, and yes: absolutely correct! Color information is gone.
Is there any way that this kind of metadata can also be transferred -
even if I don't explicitely know it's there?

I raised this before and I think you have to set the output values
manually. I found this when Transcoding from mov to mkv, colour values were
lost.
Tobias's advice here still stands I think
https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2018-July/040717.html


I remember seeing this back then. I'll read it again. Thanks for 
pointing it out Kieran!


The mentioned patch "Pass colour range from source to sink" 
(https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2018-February/225512.html) by 
Philip Langdale sounds to me like it would enable this.


Quote:
// 
"However, we don't support a way to pass it through filter chains and
'ffmpeg' does not make any attempt to set it on the encoder.

This set of changes introduces a way to do this, by defining a new
filter link property, and allowing it to be set on a buffersrc and
read back from a buffersink."
// 


From taking a quick peek at the related thread(s), it looks like Philip 
never replied to Michael's questions/comments.

Does anyone know what happened to this idea/feature/patch?



Thanks in advance!
Peter

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Copy all metadata fields?

2020-03-18 Thread Kieran O Leary
Hi,

On Wed 18 Mar 2020, 12:54 Peter B.,  wrote:

>
> Oh, and yes: absolutely correct! Color information is gone.
> Is there any way that this kind of metadata can also be transferred -
> even if I don't explicitely know it's there?
>

I raised this before and I think you have to set the output values
manually. I found this when Transcoding from mov to mkv, colour values were
lost.
Tobias's advice here still stands I think
https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2018-July/040717.html

Best,

Kieran
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Copy all metadata fields?

2020-03-18 Thread Peter B.

Thanks Ulf, Thanks Paul!

On 18/03/2020 11:14, Paul B Mahol wrote:

On 3/18/20, Ulf Zibis  wrote:

Hi Peter,

you can use "-map_metadata 0".
It copies all possible metadata from input to output.


"-map_metadata 0": Ah, how can I have overlooked that?
Thank you!

Now more metadata is present in the output, but according to Mediainfo 
there still differences:

(Sorry for being picky ;P)


1) "tagged date" overwritten by "encoded date"


In original MOV:
  * Encoded date : UTC 2012-01-18 12:50:53
  * Tagged date : UTC 2012-01-18 12:54:48

In rewrapped MOV:
  * Encoded date : UTC 2012-01-18 12:50:53
  * Tagged date : UTC 2012-01-18 12:50:53

I cannot find the "tagged date" value in the source file using 
ffmpeg/ffprobe - only Mediainfo. But there seems to be a difference 
between source and target after rewrapping.



1) "TIM" missing in output


FFmpeg copies timecode information from the video stream, but Mediainfo 
also shows "TIM" in the source container. Is it on purpose that this 
timecode field is not kept?


One could argue that this is trivial, but for preservation we're trying 
to keep as much of the source "as-is" :)




I'm sure that color information is not part of that metadata.
And it must be set manually.


Oh, and yes: absolutely correct! Color information is gone.
Is there any way that this kind of metadata can also be transferred - 
even if I don't explicitely know it's there?


The use case is that literally thousands of files are automatically 
rewrapped/transcoded and the source material can be very 
heterogeneous... Lots of fun!



Again, I'm grateful for any hints or input on how I can preserve as much 
of the original (tech)-metadata as possible.



Thanks again!
Peter
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Copy all metadata fields?

2020-03-18 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 3/18/20, Ulf Zibis  wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> you can use "-map_metadata 0".
> It copies all possible metadata from input to output.

I'm sure that color information is not part of that metadata.
And it must be set manually.


>
> -Ulf
>
> Am 18.03.20 um 07:49 schrieb Peter B.:
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Is it possible to ask/force FFmpeg to keep as many metadata fields as
>> technically possible when transcoding or rewrapping?
>>
>> I understand that not all (container-)formats support the same metadata
>> fields, but I've noticed for example that when rewrapping, not all
>> metadata fields that were populated in the input are then present in the
>> output - even if the format is identical.
>>
>>
>> Here is an example of rewrapping MOV to MOV where I've noticed the
>> following data missing in the output (commandline and output see below):
>>
>>   * color information (smpte170m/bt470bg/bt709)
>>   * creation_time (*)
>>
>>
>> I'm grateful for any hints or suggestions!
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Peter
>>
>> (*) Copying "creation_time" may be controversial, but it would be amazing
>> to be able to preserve this information in the output (e.g. map it to a
>> different field?).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Files were created with the following command:
>> // 
>> $ ffmpeg -i in.mov -c copy -map 0 out.mov
>> // 
>>
>>
>> Then metadata checked as follows:
>> // 
>> $ ffmpeg -i in.mov -i out.mov -hide_banner
>> // 
>>
>>
>>
>> Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'in.mov':
>>   Metadata:
>> major_brand : qt
>> minor_version   : 0
>> compatible_brands: qt
>> creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
>>   Duration: 00:03:54.80, start: 0.00, bitrate: 30453 kb/s
>> Stream #0:0(und): Video: dvvideo (dvcp / 0x70637664),
>> yuv420p(smpte170m/bt470bg/bt709, bottom coded first (swapped)), 720x576
>> [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 28800 kb/s, SAR 59:54 DAR 295:216, 25 fps, 25 tbr,
>> 25k tbn, 25 tbc (default)
>> Metadata:
>>   creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
>>   handler_name: Core Media Video
>>   encoder : DV - PAL
>>   timecode: 00:37:50:04
>> Stream #0:1(und): Audio: pcm_s16le (sowt / 0x74776F73), 48000 Hz,
>> stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s (default)
>> Metadata:
>>   creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
>>   handler_name: Core Media Audio
>> Stream #0:2(und): Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74)
>> Metadata:
>>   creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
>>   handler_name: Core Media Time Code
>>   reel_name   : 2001-11-10_KveldsseteKaarvatn
>>   timecode: 00:37:50:04
>>
>>
>> Input #1, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'out.mov':
>>   Metadata:
>> major_brand : qt
>> minor_version   : 512
>> compatible_brands: qt
>> encoder : Lavf58.33.100
>>   Duration: 00:03:54.84, start: 0.00, bitrate: 30333 kb/s
>> Stream #1:0: Video: dvvideo (dvcp / 0x70637664), yuv420p(bottom coded
>> first (swapped)), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 28800 kb/s, SAR 59:54 DAR
>> 295:216, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25k tbn, 25 tbc (default)
>> Metadata:
>>   handler_name: Core Media Video
>>   encoder : DV - PAL
>>   timecode: 00:37:50:04
>> Stream #1:1: Audio: pcm_s16le (sowt / 0x74776F73), 48000 Hz, stereo,
>> s16, 1536 kb/s (default)
>> Metadata:
>>   handler_name: Core Media Audio
>> Stream #1:2: Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74)
>> Metadata:
>>   handler_name: Core Media Time Code
>>   reel_name   : 2001-11-10_KveldsseteKaarvatn
>>   timecode: 00:37:50:04
>> At least one output file must be specified
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Copy all metadata fields?

2020-03-18 Thread Ulf Zibis

Hi Peter,

you can use "-map_metadata 0".
It copies all possible metadata from input to output.

-Ulf

Am 18.03.20 um 07:49 schrieb Peter B.:

Hi everyone!

Is it possible to ask/force FFmpeg to keep as many metadata fields as 
technically possible when transcoding or rewrapping?

I understand that not all (container-)formats support the same metadata fields, 
but I've noticed for example that when rewrapping, not all metadata fields that 
were populated in the input are then present in the output - even if the format 
is identical.


Here is an example of rewrapping MOV to MOV where I've noticed the following 
data missing in the output (commandline and output see below):

  * color information (smpte170m/bt470bg/bt709)
  * creation_time (*)


I'm grateful for any hints or suggestions!
Thank you in advance,
Peter

(*) Copying "creation_time" may be controversial, but it would be amazing to be 
able to preserve this information in the output (e.g. map it to a different field?).




Files were created with the following command:
// 
$ ffmpeg -i in.mov -c copy -map 0 out.mov
// 


Then metadata checked as follows:
// 
$ ffmpeg -i in.mov -i out.mov -hide_banner
// 



Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'in.mov':
  Metadata:
    major_brand : qt
    minor_version   : 0
    compatible_brands: qt
    creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
  Duration: 00:03:54.80, start: 0.00, bitrate: 30453 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(und): Video: dvvideo (dvcp / 0x70637664), 
yuv420p(smpte170m/bt470bg/bt709, bottom coded first (swapped)), 720x576 [SAR 
16:15 DAR 4:3], 28800 kb/s, SAR 59:54 DAR 295:216, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25k tbn, 25 
tbc (default)
    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
  handler_name    : Core Media Video
  encoder : DV - PAL
  timecode    : 00:37:50:04
    Stream #0:1(und): Audio: pcm_s16le (sowt / 0x74776F73), 48000 Hz, stereo, 
s16, 1536 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
  handler_name    : Core Media Audio
    Stream #0:2(und): Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74)
    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
  handler_name    : Core Media Time Code
  reel_name   : 2001-11-10_KveldsseteKaarvatn
  timecode    : 00:37:50:04


Input #1, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'out.mov':
  Metadata:
    major_brand : qt
    minor_version   : 512
    compatible_brands: qt
    encoder : Lavf58.33.100
  Duration: 00:03:54.84, start: 0.00, bitrate: 30333 kb/s
    Stream #1:0: Video: dvvideo (dvcp / 0x70637664), yuv420p(bottom coded first 
(swapped)), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 28800 kb/s, SAR 59:54 DAR 295:216, 25 
fps, 25 tbr, 25k tbn, 25 tbc (default)
    Metadata:
  handler_name    : Core Media Video
  encoder : DV - PAL
  timecode    : 00:37:50:04
    Stream #1:1: Audio: pcm_s16le (sowt / 0x74776F73), 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 
1536 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
  handler_name    : Core Media Audio
    Stream #1:2: Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74)
    Metadata:
  handler_name    : Core Media Time Code
  reel_name   : 2001-11-10_KveldsseteKaarvatn
  timecode    : 00:37:50:04
At least one output file must be specified









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[FFmpeg-user] Copy all metadata fields?

2020-03-18 Thread Peter B.

Hi everyone!

Is it possible to ask/force FFmpeg to keep as many metadata fields as 
technically possible when transcoding or rewrapping?


I understand that not all (container-)formats support the same metadata 
fields, but I've noticed for example that when rewrapping, not all 
metadata fields that were populated in the input are then present in the 
output - even if the format is identical.



Here is an example of rewrapping MOV to MOV where I've noticed the 
following data missing in the output (commandline and output see below):


  * color information (smpte170m/bt470bg/bt709)
  * creation_time (*)


I'm grateful for any hints or suggestions!
Thank you in advance,
Peter

(*) Copying "creation_time" may be controversial, but it would be 
amazing to be able to preserve this information in the output (e.g. map 
it to a different field?).





Files were created with the following command:
// 
$ ffmpeg -i in.mov -c copy -map 0 out.mov
// 


Then metadata checked as follows:
// 
$ ffmpeg -i in.mov -i out.mov -hide_banner
// 



Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'in.mov':
  Metadata:
    major_brand : qt
    minor_version   : 0
    compatible_brands: qt
    creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
  Duration: 00:03:54.80, start: 0.00, bitrate: 30453 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(und): Video: dvvideo (dvcp / 0x70637664), 
yuv420p(smpte170m/bt470bg/bt709, bottom coded first (swapped)), 720x576 
[SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 28800 kb/s, SAR 59:54 DAR 295:216, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 
25k tbn, 25 tbc (default)

    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
  handler_name    : Core Media Video
  encoder : DV - PAL
  timecode    : 00:37:50:04
    Stream #0:1(und): Audio: pcm_s16le (sowt / 0x74776F73), 48000 Hz, 
stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s (default)

    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
  handler_name    : Core Media Audio
    Stream #0:2(und): Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74)
    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2012-01-18T12:50:53.00Z
  handler_name    : Core Media Time Code
  reel_name   : 2001-11-10_KveldsseteKaarvatn
  timecode    : 00:37:50:04


Input #1, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'out.mov':
  Metadata:
    major_brand : qt
    minor_version   : 512
    compatible_brands: qt
    encoder : Lavf58.33.100
  Duration: 00:03:54.84, start: 0.00, bitrate: 30333 kb/s
    Stream #1:0: Video: dvvideo (dvcp / 0x70637664), yuv420p(bottom 
coded first (swapped)), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 28800 kb/s, SAR 
59:54 DAR 295:216, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25k tbn, 25 tbc (default)

    Metadata:
  handler_name    : Core Media Video
  encoder : DV - PAL
  timecode    : 00:37:50:04
    Stream #1:1: Audio: pcm_s16le (sowt / 0x74776F73), 48000 Hz, 
stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s (default)

    Metadata:
  handler_name    : Core Media Audio
    Stream #1:2: Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74)
    Metadata:
  handler_name    : Core Media Time Code
  reel_name   : 2001-11-10_KveldsseteKaarvatn
  timecode    : 00:37:50:04
At least one output file must be specified









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