Re: [FFmpeg-user] abort and missing SIGABRT handling

2020-02-28 Thread Mircea Carausu via ffmpeg-user
Many thanks for all replies. It provides the background info I was looking
for.
Thank you,
Mircea

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:17 AM tth  wrote:

> Le 27/02/2020 19:35:24, Nicolas George a écrit :
> > Carl Eugen Hoyos (12020-02-27):
> > > The abort() calls are not supposed to actually be hit. If you want
> > to
> > > catch them in your code using the libraries, you should do so.
> >
> > But if the abort() are reached, that's a bug, either in FFmpeg or in
> > the
> > program that uses its libraries. Catching the signal is likely to make
> > things worse. Remember that these asserts may be the final barrier
> > against an exploitable bug.
>
> And in case of a catastophic event, with abort() you can
> have a coredump for postmortem analysing...
>
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] abort and missing SIGABRT handling

2020-02-27 Thread tth

Le 27/02/2020 19:35:24, Nicolas George a écrit :

Carl Eugen Hoyos (12020-02-27):
> The abort() calls are not supposed to actually be hit. If you want  
to

> catch them in your code using the libraries, you should do so.

But if the abort() are reached, that's a bug, either in FFmpeg or in  
the

program that uses its libraries. Catching the signal is likely to make
things worse. Remember that these asserts may be the final barrier
against an exploitable bug.


   And in case of a catastophic event, with abort() you can
   have a coredump for postmortem analysing...


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] abort and missing SIGABRT handling

2020-02-27 Thread Nicolas George
Carl Eugen Hoyos (12020-02-27):
> The abort() calls are not supposed to actually be hit. If you want to
> catch them in your code using the libraries, you should do so.

But if the abort() are reached, that's a bug, either in FFmpeg or in the
program that uses its libraries. Catching the signal is likely to make
things worse. Remember that these asserts may be the final barrier
against an exploitable bug.

The proper way of dealing with assert failure is to fix them.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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Re: [FFmpeg-user] abort and missing SIGABRT handling

2020-02-27 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos


> Am 27.02.2020 um 09:35 schrieb Mircea Carausu via ffmpeg-user 
> :
> 
> I noticed av_asser0 macro is extensively used in ffmpeg code... simple grep
> returns some 11xx hits.
> Inside this macro abort() call is used.
> Two questions in my mind:
> 1. why abort() and not exit() with a err code (i.e. EXIT_FAILURE)
> 2, if we trigger abort purposely, why not have a signal handler for it and
> do proper flushing cleanup upon exception detection? Seems SIGABRT (a POSIX
> signal) does not currently have any handler in ffmpeg.

The abort() calls are not supposed to actually be hit. If you want to catch 
them in your code using the libraries, you should do so.

Carl Eugen
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] abort and missing SIGABRT handling

2020-02-27 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos


> Am 27.02.2020 um 09:35 schrieb Mircea Carausu via ffmpeg-user 
> :
> 
> why abort() and not exit() with a err code (i.e. EXIT_FAILURE)

The proper answer here is that libraries are not supposed to call exit().

Carl Eugen
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[FFmpeg-user] abort and missing SIGABRT handling

2020-02-27 Thread Mircea Carausu via ffmpeg-user
Hello,
I noticed av_asser0 macro is extensively used in ffmpeg code... simple grep
returns some 11xx hits.
Inside this macro abort() call is used.
Two questions in my mind:
1. why abort() and not exit() with a err code (i.e. EXIT_FAILURE)
2, if we trigger abort purposely, why not have a signal handler for it and
do proper flushing cleanup upon exception detection? Seems SIGABRT (a POSIX
signal) does not currently have any handler in ffmpeg.

I am sure there are reasons, I am just eager to find reasons behind this...

Thank you,
Mircea
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