[fibernet] twist direction

2010-03-19 Thread Nancy Slutsky
The theory is that when you throw the yarn in knitting you untwist a bit if it is plied in the wrong direction. then for weaving, the twist from unwinding off the shuttle will either twist more or less depending on which way it is plied. so the weaving yarn should be plied opposite from

[fibernet] RE: S or Z

2010-03-19 Thread Suzanne Correira
I wouldn't sweat it at all. Luisa at LaLana wools always insists on one way, which is generally against the norm because of some spirituality tradition of it - I forgot which way as it's been a LOOONG time since I spun for her. It is not going to make that much difference in the finished

[fibernet] Re: S or Z Ply

2010-03-19 Thread WoolSpinnr
I've seen hand spinners make their yarn both ways and produce beautiful hand knitted, woven, and crocheted items. As Sara wrote, the only time I know that the plying direction makes a difference is in two-ended knitting or crocheting, due to the way the yarns are manipulated during those

Re: [fibernet] S or Z Ply

2010-03-19 Thread Kathleen Connell
She is WRONG! It makes no difference - in addition to being wrong she is also RUDE. Some believe that linen is better spun this way because of the way the plant fibers grow, but with animal fibers it makes NO difference. I would say her respect is not earned. Brucie On Mar 18, 2010, at 5:28

Re: [fibernet] S or Z Ply

2010-03-19 Thread Sara von Tresckow
And the linen thing is also highly overrated! I did a History of the Drawloom lecture at CW seminars in Tampa - while doing research found a listing of over 50 pieces from 16th century and later damasks - ALL of them had Z-spun linen, warp and weft! Surely some other areas of the world used S

[fibernet] Rurdeness

2010-03-19 Thread Sara von Tresckow
Yeah, those people - gotta love 'em. Last week I had some fat ladies come in and watch me working on some scarves - with a stick shuttle because of the boucle weft and I don't use floating selvages so know which of the 8 rows need to have the shuttle catch the outside thread. One of them

Re: [fibernet] S or Z Ply

2010-03-19 Thread June Oshiro
If a person states a premise but does not back it up with evidence, I am more inclined to think the statement is hogwash. As a scientist, I like to see data and draw my own conclusions, not blindly swallow forcefully stated proclamations. Also, a true teacher lives to educate others, not to

Re: [fibernet] Rurdeness

2010-03-19 Thread Kathleen Connell
One of the worst I had waaay back when I had my yarn shop was a woman poking around in the yarn bins - holding a lighted cigarette in her hand! Brucie

[fibernet] Re: S or Z Ply

2010-03-19 Thread brookfarmalpacas
Oh dear, have got some worked up into a tizzy. So sorry. But I have learned so very much from this whole experience. And I think others have too. A very awkward situation was turned into a research project, and I think that may be the good that has come from this. I have not been able to

[fibernet] Off topic: info needed; I need plying info

2010-03-19 Thread d2wms
Hi All Sorry for the off topic, but this where I heard of a product for skin. I think it was made from sheep? maybe goat? milk. A very little went a long way. And it was years ago. The company, I hope, is still around. I really need that product. For fiber content, I dragged out my Schacht