filmscanners: Digital Shortcomings

2001-06-21 Thread RogerMillerPhoto
So, are you planning on using a digital camera for your glamour photography? Ouch! I can't see how you'd be happy with the results compared to what wet processing in a commercial lab can do for you. Resolution is lousy and you can't get the look and feel from it that wet film and paper will

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread rafeb
At 11:05 PM 6/20/01 -0400, someone wrote: Has anyone actually seen the illumination system used in a Nikon scanner? How large are the LED elements? Are all four colors integrated into one LED element (R,G,B, IR), or are they individual? Are they diffused via some material or light

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread rafeb
At 11:18 PM 6/20/01 -0400, Isaac Crawford wrote: Well halogen bulbs have the same uneveness problems as regular bulbs, but with the use of a mixing chamber, they can give the same results a cold head can... I can see some potential advantages in an enlarger with LEDs in this arangement, primarly

filmscanners: Thanks - (was Digital vs Conventional Chemical Darkroom)

2001-06-21 Thread John C. Jernigan
Thanks to all who offered their thoughts re permanance of digital vs chemical prints. I suppose we'll know for sure in about 200 years. :) John J.

Re: filmscanners: Digital Shortcomings

2001-06-21 Thread kmh
Check out http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/cameras/camerasIndex.jh tml Then look at the article about Michael Grecco using the DCS Pro Back on a glamour shoot. You may want to check out the recent updates in the world of digital photography before you make such a sweeping

filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.2 Available

2001-06-21 Thread EdHamrick
I just released VueScan 7.1.2 for Windows, Mac OS 8/9/X and Linux. It can be downloaded from: http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html What's new in version 7.1.2 * Improved color and tone when scanning negatives I'm pretty sure this fixes a lot of the problems people have been seeing with

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Tony Sleep
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:59:33 -0400 Austin Franklin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I would never have imagined that someone would devote so much time and thought to LEDs. I know I can't :-) Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info

RE: filmscanners: Scanner resolution (was: BWP seeks scanner)

2001-06-21 Thread Tony Sleep
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:55:14 -0700 Shough, Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm not sure exactly what you mean about the Nyquist limit making the MTF incalculable or why you emphasize systems. To counter the discussion hereabouts which is regarding the Nyquist limit of the CCD as actual

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Tony Sleep
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:18:04 -0400 Austin Franklin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: But that's the point...you CAN'T space them to give even illumination. Just a single LED is unevenly illuminated in and of it self! It's typically a mounded plastic piece, which is really not very

Re: filmscanners: Best film for scanning with FS 2710

2001-06-21 Thread Herm
I use a lot of this film pushed to +3 stops..according to Kodak the resulting ASA numbers are 200 (normal), 320, 640, 1000. Even at 1000 it still has very low grain (a bit less than a 400ASA print film), of course you have to be careful since it will not tolerate improper exposures at ASA1000.

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Tony Sleep
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:59:33 -0400 Austin Franklin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It's entirely different. Incandescent lamps used for such are diffuse and are not near as focused as LEDs. Using commercially available standard parts, you need individual LEDs because you need three colors.

Re: filmscanners: Digital Shortcomings

2001-06-21 Thread stuart
At 03:49 21/06/01 -0400, you wrote: i Roger -thanks for taking the time to reply-you've given me something to think about . basically my reason for buying a digital camera was to use it as well as my other cameras depending on what the intended market was ( yes I know I said I was changing

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
The *problem* I see with cold-cathode and fluorescents is that they can flicker. I'm not exactly sure why this happens. Typically it is caused by the observer being on some psycho conducive substance ;-) The Leaf uses a tri-band phosphor fluorescent lamp, which I would guess doesn't have

Re: filmscanners: Matrox G400 vs G450

2001-06-21 Thread Robert Logan
NB: The G550 has just been released. One of the main considerations is the resolution you want to have in the secondary display - the G550 will allows a higher res on the second due to two RAMDACS (my G400 is limited to 1280x1024). The G450 is just a tidied up G400, the specs are a bit better

RE: filmscanners: Scanner resolution (was: BWP seeks scanner)

2001-06-21 Thread Tony Sleep
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:58:54 -0400 rafeb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yeah, I've got it. What do you suppose I've been raving about for these last couple of weeks ?? :-) It hasn't gone unnoticed - you seem to be the only person in the world who actually has one :) Just how long does this

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Isaac Crawford
Austin Franklin wrote: http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/1990.htm BTW, thanks for that link! I did find it most interesting, and certainly a great source for information on LEDs. I would never have imagined that someone would devote so much time and thought to LEDs. As a side note, when

RE: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.2 Available

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Chefurka
Apparently they got the graffiti wrong back in the 60's - it wasn't Clapton who was god after all :-) It's been said before, but at the risk of embarassing Ed, it bears repeating: this level of customer support is simply awe-inspiring. I think the colours I'm geting off my negs aren't as good

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Todd Radel
I can easily imagine packages and monolithich LED arrays that allow for very, very close stacking of LEDs, so that you could have, say, 20 or 50 or even 100 LEDs per inch. For years Olympus has been making laser printers that claim to use LED's instead of a laser/mirror assembly. I always

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Stan McQueen
At 08:00 AM 6/21/2001 -0400, rafe b wrote: At 11:18 PM 6/20/01 -0400, Isaac Crawford wrote: Well halogen bulbs have the same uneveness problems as regular bulbs, but with the use of a mixing chamber, they can give the same results a cold head can... I can see some potential advantages in an

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread rafeb
At 12:26 AM 6/21/01 -0400, Austin wrote: Even if this was such a good idea, it would have been done 5 years ago, and, as far as I can tell, it wasn't. It isn't a difficult engineering project to develop, it's just that, I believe, it really doesn't work all that well. Digital imaging has really

RE: filmscanners: Line on SS4000 scanning

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Chefurka
Sounds to me like one of the CCD sensors is busted. Take a look at the image at full size in whatever processing software you're using, and look to see if the line is exactly one pixel wide. It's probably time for a trip to the shop. Paul Chefurka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: filmscanners: leveling scanners

2001-06-21 Thread jimhayes
Um, I would worry about maintaining six inches open space behind scanner and, observing that there appear to be a perf pattern of holes on lower right toward rear-my mechanical RD experience says keep two inches away from the holes in case they are for ventilation... Sam A. McCandless wrote:

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Enlargers

2001-06-21 Thread Moreno Polloni
I've given you my engineering evaluation of it, and you haven't shown (certainly not to my satisfaction anyway) that my concerns aren't valid. You seem to really want this to work! I don't believe we're getting anywhere here, though I did learn about the origin of blue LEDs, and this is

Re: filmscanners: Matrox G400 vs G450

2001-06-21 Thread Robert Kehl
Robert, Thanks for your input. can you give me any more details? see below: - Original Message - From: Robert Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:34 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Matrox G400 vs G450 NB: The G550 has just been released.

RE: filmscanners: Time to upgrade: Opinions wanted

2001-06-21 Thread Alessandro Pardi
This is for those interested in BW: I played a while with the two large jpgs from the test page below, the raw SS4000 and the ice-cubed ED4000. I did what I usually do when converting color images to BW, i.e. I went through the channel mixer: here I simply selected the green channel with the

RE: filmscanners: Scanner resolution (was: BWP seeks scanner)

2001-06-21 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Tony Sleep wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:58:54 -0400 rafeb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yeah, I've got it. What do you suppose I've been raving about for these last couple of weeks ?? :-) It hasn't gone unnoticed - you seem to be the only person in the world

filmscanners: LS40, Canon4000

2001-06-21 Thread tom
Hi, Could you please share with me your experiences with LS40 and new Canon 4000dpi (is it already available ?) Regards Tomasz __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Cliff Ober
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners Sure you could have done that 15-20 years ago. Use

Re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.2 Available

2001-06-21 Thread Dave King
I just use 7.1.1 for the first time today and I'm very impressed with the recent improvements to the cleaning and sharpening using Fujichrome 100 on my LS-30. So then, hoping against hope, I scanned one of my problem Kodachromes, but no luck. I isolated the problem to the cleaning function.

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Enlargers

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
I've given you my engineering evaluation of it, and you haven't shown (certainly not to my satisfaction anyway) that my concerns aren't valid. You seem to really want this to work! I don't believe we're getting anywhere here, though I did learn about the origin of blue LEDs, and this

RE: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.2 Available

2001-06-21 Thread Andrew Moore
It's been said before, but at the risk of embarassing Ed, it bears repeating: this level of customer support is simply awe-inspiring. ... I think the colours I'm geting off my negs aren't as good as they could be. Momentary silence OK, here's a fix that should help. Are you watching

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
But that's the point...you CAN'T space them to give even illumination. Just a single LED is unevenly illuminated in and of it self! It's typically a mounded plastic piece, which is really not very consistent. Nikon are unlikely to be using mass-produced general-purpose .5c LED's on

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Johnny Deadman
on 6/21/01 5:03 PM, Austin Franklin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, not for a scanner, for an enlarger! I don't know whether they are a good or bad idea for a scanner, but I do know that for BW, I would rather be using a ND filter, or something with that wavelength. ??? an ND filter

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
LEDs have been around for a very long time, and they are reasonably inexpensive, as well as very easy to control. I am sure that if this was such a great idea, and the implementation worked near as well as you believe, it would have been done some 15-20 years ago as a commercial venture,

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
Even if this was such a good idea, it would have been done 5 years ago, and, as far as I can tell, it wasn't. It isn't a difficult engineering project to develop, it's just that, I believe, it really doesn't work all that well. Digital imaging has really only come of age in the past

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Stan McQueen wrote: Fluorescents flicker at the AC line frequency--60 Hz in the US. This is because, as you say, the fluorescent light is a plasma device. The discharge turns on and off at the line frequency. It is not a continuous discharge (either in time or in

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
No, not for a scanner, for an enlarger! I don't know whether they are a good or bad idea for a scanner, but I do know that for BW, I would rather be using a ND filter, or something with that wavelength. ??? an ND filter doesn't filter by wavelength, it simply reduces intensity. Of

Re: filmscanners: Line on SS4000 scanning

2001-06-21 Thread Bill Ross
I bet it's dust on the sensor.. you could try blowing it out w/ compressed air. Bill Ross

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
Sure you could have done that 15-20 years ago. Use filters...red, green and blue filters certainly were around 15-20 years ago. HUH??? Please explain to me how to filter monochromatic red light from an LED to get blue light. If you can figure out how do that you'll be up for a Nobel

Re: filmscanners: Matrox G400 vs G450

2001-06-21 Thread Robert Logan
= NB: The G550 has just been released. Whats the max resolution on main and second monitors? 2048x1536 and 1600x1200 for the G550 at v high refresh rates (100+) The G450 is the same, the G400 is lower. bert

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Arthur Entlich
If I'm not mistaken, all A.C powered fluorescent bulbs flicker at 60/50 cycle (in those places that use 60 or 50 cycle AC, that is). In fact so do incandescent bulbs, for that matter, but in both cases, aspects of the design reduce the visibility of this. I think television screens also do

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Arthur Entlich
Tony Sleep wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:59:33 -0400 Austin Franklin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It's entirely different. Incandescent lamps used for such are diffuse and are not near as focused as LEDs. Using commercially available standard parts, you need individual LEDs

Re: filmscanners: Digital Shortcomings

2001-06-21 Thread Arthur Entlich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:49 21/06/01 -0400, you wrote: i Roger -thanks for taking the time to reply-you've given me something to think about . basically my reason for buying a digital camera was to use it as well as my other cameras depending on what the intended market was

Re: filmscanners: Best film for scanning with FS 2710

2001-06-21 Thread Arthur Entlich
Herm wrote: I use a lot of this film pushed to +3 stops..according to Kodak the resulting ASA numbers are 200 (normal), 320, 640, 1000. Even at 1000 it still has very low grain (a bit less than a 400ASA print film), of course you have to be careful since it will not tolerate improper

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Cliff Ober
Austin, That message was somehow delayed in the system for many hours... What company made those filters? - I'd like to look up the details (I have an extensive electronics data library going back about thirty years that includes a very large amount of optoelectronics). Cliff Ober

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
Yeah, me too, that's why I have that info. The one I have in front of me is VCC, and it's called the ClipLite and the CubeLite. Red, amber, green, blue, yellow and clear. For 3mm and 5mm LEDs. What company made those filters? - I'd like to look up the details (I have an extensive

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
Regarding the Leaf scanners. I knew they were off my want list when I saw the bulb for one being sold on ebay, as a separate auction item ;-) At least you CAN get them with no problem. Check how much the LED array is for the Nikon, and you may reconsider!

Re: filmscanners: Best film for scanning with FS 2710

2001-06-21 Thread Johnny Deadman
on 6/21/01 7:37 PM, Arthur Entlich at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a lot of this film pushed to +3 stops..according to Kodak the resulting ASA numbers are 200 (normal), 320, 640, 1000. Even at 1000 it still has very low grain (a bit less than a 400ASA print film), of course you have to be

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Stan McQueen
At 05:39 PM 6/21/2001 -0400, you wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Stan McQueen wrote: Fluorescents flicker at the AC line frequency--60 Hz in the US. This is because, as you say, the fluorescent light is a plasma device. The discharge turns on and off at the line frequency. It is not a

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Stan McQueen
At 05:39 PM 6/21/2001 -0400, rafe b wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Stan McQueen wrote: Fluorescents flicker at the AC line frequency--60 Hz in the US. This is because, as you say, the fluorescent light is a plasma device. The discharge turns on and off at the line frequency. It is not a

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Stan McQueen
At 03:36 PM 6/21/2001 -0700, you wrote: If I'm not mistaken, all A.C powered fluorescent bulbs flicker at 60/50 cycle (in those places that use 60 or 50 cycle AC, that is). In fact so do incandescent bulbs, for that matter, but in both cases, aspects of the design reduce the visibility of

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Jim Snyder
on 6/21/01 8:00 AM, rafeb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:18 PM 6/20/01 -0400, Isaac Crawford wrote: Well halogen bulbs have the same uneveness problems as regular bulbs, but with the use of a mixing chamber, they can give the same results a cold head can... I can see some potential

filmscanners: line on Polaroid SS4000

2001-06-21 Thread salome1
Hi, Earlier, I had posted a help message regarding a line that I was getting on my scans from the 4000. If I scan a horizontal slide, there is a light colored line about one third of the way down from the top, it goes all the way from left to right. I called Polaroid and since the scanner is

Re: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Moreno Polloni
Regarding the Leaf scanners. I knew they were off my want list when I saw the bulb for one being sold on ebay, as a separate auction item ;-) At least you CAN get them with no problem. Check how much the LED array is for the Nikon, and you may reconsider! You've made your aversion to

Re: filmscanners: line on Polaroid SS4000

2001-06-21 Thread Arthur Entlich
Before you give up on your scanner, or have to to cut and paste on the bad line every time, you might want to try to place your scanner on a different plane (try New York to LA ;-)) NO, seriously, try placing the scanner on its side and give it some gentle taps on all sides to dislodge any

Re: filmscanners: Best film for scanning with FS 2710

2001-06-21 Thread Arthur Entlich
Stan McQueen wrote: I thought the same, but I recently read a column in one of the photo mags (forget which one) in which it was stated that Kodak does consider a one-stop push of Ektachrome 200 to be ASA 320. The author said that if you shoot at 400, you should tell the lab that

Re: filmscanners: Best film for scanning with FS 2710

2001-06-21 Thread Arthur Entlich
Johnny Deadman wrote: on 6/21/01 7:37 PM, Arthur Entlich at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a lot of this film pushed to +3 stops..according to Kodak the resulting ASA numbers are 200 (normal), 320, 640, 1000. Even at 1000 it still has very low grain (a bit less than a 400ASA print

filmscanners: ADMIN : PLEASE READ : MAIL BOUNCES

2001-06-21 Thread Tony Sleep
PLEASE will subscribers to the list and digest take care to empty their POP3 mailboxes often enough to ensure consistent delivery of mails from this list. And in fact anywhere else. Please bear in mind that if your mailbox becomes full, EVERY message sent is bounced back to the sender. That

RE: filmscanners: LED Illumination for Film Scanners

2001-06-21 Thread Austin Franklin
Regarding the Leaf scanners. I knew they were off my want list when I saw the bulb for one being sold on ebay, as a separate auction item ;-) At least you CAN get them with no problem. Check how much the LED array is for the Nikon, and you may reconsider! You've made your