Re: Unsharp mask was Re: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread tflash
on 7/15/01 10:27 PM, Austin Franklin wrote: He issued a challenge (as he often does) to these consultants to provide details of press shops who are using color management, AKA profiles, for their press, and no consultant (if anyone would know it would be they, as they'd be setting them up)

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Arthur Entlich
OH, now I'm clearer on this... This relatively fast, unexposed film was X-rayed 8 times prior to being exposed. That would place it at considerable risk of being damaged. Art Norman Quinn wrote: No just the film. This is the 1st time I have had fogged film too. Did the film travel as

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Arthur Entlich
The last time I was in the states, about a year ago, I left from an airport in Syracuse NY. When I asked for hand inspection of my camera bag and film, the two elderly gents, who looked like they were retired FBI to me, said they wanted to have the equipment chemically sniffed. They took some

Re: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread rafeb
At 01:09 AM 7/16/01 -0400, Todd wrote: You know what I hate most about the Leaf? It's that each stage of the process before you get to the scan is a separate operation, with too many dialog boxes. Todd -- I'm not taking sides in your debate with Austin, though enjoying the dialog,

Re: filmscanners: Which Buggy Software?

2001-07-16 Thread Colin Maddock
Tony Sleep wrote: The other major issue for system stability is MS COM components. I'm slow on the uptake here. What are the MS COM components please Tony? Colin Maddock

RE: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Dave Buyens
Norman Quinn wrote: Apparently two rolls of color print film were either fogged by an xray machine or poorly developed. The entire roll film is very dense but there are images there. Norman, I curious, is the edge of the film (by the holes) darkened? I'm making the assumption that the

RE: filmscanners: Grain, Noise, et al

2001-07-16 Thread Norman Unsworth
Without a doubt, Rob, that's the best answer re: fundamentals. I've been shooting a lot of 400 speed, albeit quality films (Supra, Fuji NPH). The Supra 400 isn't too bad at all, really, but I've had some very grainy results shooting NPH with a flash. No question, I'm 'shooting' myself in the foot

RE: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread Norman Unsworth
A couple of excellent resources for information on Unsharp Mask are Dan Margulis article (http://www.ledet.com/margulis - you may need to double check this link) and Wayne Fulton's Scantip site (http://www.scantips.com/). Norm Unsworth, Owner Clark Systems Custom Golf: Outstanding Quality and

RE: Unsharp mask was Re: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread Austin Franklin
He issued a challenge (as he often does) to these consultants to provide details of press shops who are using color management, AKA profiles, for their press, and no consultant (if anyone would know it would be they, as they'd be setting them up) could offer any. And you gave

RE: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread Austin Franklin
I've told you before, I get the sense that a lot of owners (not you, you are a special case altogether ;-)) don't want to discuss any negatives about the Leaf other than it's weight. I've never heard anyone have any complaints about it as you elude to here...except for soft red

Re: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread tflash
on 7/16/01 5:29 AM, rafeb wrote: You know what I hate most about the Leaf? It's that each stage of the process before you get to the scan is a separate operation, with too many dialog boxes. Todd -- I'm not taking sides in your debate with Austin, though enjoying the dialog,

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Tony Sleep
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:45:11 -0400 Norman Quinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Would have been 8-10 passes though scanners Jamaica, Miami, Puerto = Rico, St. Thomas and back. FWIW X-ray exposure is completely cumulative, there is no reciprocity failure. That is, each bit of exposure

Re: filmscanners: Test Imacon, Nikon.Polaroid

2001-07-16 Thread Dave King
- Original Message - From: Tony Sleep [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Test Imacon, Nikon.Polaroid On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 01:17:28 -0400 Dave King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If there are no mirrors in either,

Re: filmscanners: Grain, Noise, et al

2001-07-16 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
To deal with grain I change to LAB color space, then use the median filter on the a and b channels, and if needed the dust and scratch filter in the L channel, masking the sky first if necessary. Maris - Original Message - From: Norman Unsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Unsharp mask was Re: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread tflash
Austin, I'm drained from this. I have one short comment below, and then I'm done for now. He issued a challenge (as he often does) to these consultants to provide details of press shops who are using color management, AKA profiles, for their press, and no consultant (if anyone would know

RE: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Austin Franklin wrote: I've also questioned Austin before (and agree with your skepticism) that exposure times can be varied willy-nilly with no effect on scan quality. This is quite contrary to my experience with film scanners and photography in general. Not

Re: filmscanners: LS-30 and Windows 2000

2001-07-16 Thread Peter Marquis-Kyle
Kerry Thompson wrote I recently installed a LS-30 on a new Win 2000 professional system. The computer recognizes the scanner at startup but does not seem to install a driver for it. Each startup the computer again recognizes the scanner and begins the new hardware wizard. Is there a Win 2000

RE: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Austin Franklin wrote: No, I disagree that I misrepresented anything. The conversation wasn't about resolution, so what was the point of you bringing that up? It was nit-picking, and not relevant to my comment. You don't need to chime in with every little point. If

Re: filmscanners: LS-30 and Windows 2000

2001-07-16 Thread Karl Schulmeisters
The 'name' or 'id' of a USB device is transmitted by the device itself if it is fully compatible with the USB spec. The 'new hardware wizard' compares the name to its list of 'installed devices' and if it doesn't recognize it, it prompts you. So you have to have a fully sucessful install for

RE: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread Stan McQueen
That is a great suggestion! I would never have thought of it - I am off to eBay and Google! I would love to be able to practice while using Provia 100F! I have been away from the list for awhile, so if somebody has already mentioned this, please forgive me. In my experience, the film mostly

Re: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, tflash wrote: on 7/16/01 5:29 AM, rafeb wrote: You know what I hate most about the Leaf? It's that each stage of the process before you get to the scan is a separate operation, with too many dialog boxes. Todd -- I'm not taking sides in your debate with

Re: filmscanners: Adobe/SilverFast Color Management

2001-07-16 Thread Ian Lyons
I have never heard of Photoshop's internal monitor compensation system having trouble handling a wide gamut color space. Could you explain this, or refer me to an article that will? Real World Photoshop 6 is one such reference as is the Photoshop on-line helo file, Andrew Rodney, Chris

Re: Unsharp mask was Re: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread Dave King
I disagree with him (Margulis) on one point however, and I consider myself a color balance freak. Why? In an average color photograph, global color contrast is maximized at one point only -- the most accurate color balance possible for that scene. I just don't see how one can get there working

Re: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread tflash
There's this mantra that capturing the scan data in 16 bits obviates all other responsibilities at the scanner-driver stage, and I've never bought into that. Seems I get by nicely with 24-bit (8 bit/color) scans, in spite of all I read here and elsewhere about the advantages of 48-bit

RE: filmscanners: Grain, Noise, et al

2001-07-16 Thread Norman Unsworth
What's next? Do you then simply go back to the combined channels in LAB or do you need to do something else in PS, like flatten? Norman Unsworth Management Specialist w: 609 645 7700 x4527 f: 609 645 5891 This message has been prepared on resources managed by Atlantic County Government. It is

Re: Unsharp mask was Re: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread Dave King
- Original Message - From: Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: RE: Unsharp mask was Re: filmscanners: Getting started question He issued a challenge (as he often does) to these consultants to provide details of

Re: filmscanners: Polaroid 120 carrier doesn't line up

2001-07-16 Thread Ian Lyons
Title: Re: filmscanners: Polaroid 120 carrier doesn't line up Jim, There probably wasn't one. When I put a strip of 5 Pentax 645 negatives in the carrier, the only one that can be scanned is the first one. As Rafe has indicated I have mentioned this a few times here and directly with

Re: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread Lynn Allen
tflash wrote: I like the leaf, I'm glad I bought it, but mine has some problems, and the cost for shipping and repair is prohibitive. So I live with it in it's compromised condition. OK, I've seen many posts similar to this in the last few months (even made a few, myself). If it's a given

Re: filmscanners: Which Buggy Software?

2001-07-16 Thread Lynn Allen
Rafe wrote: Dan's approach is to go by the numbers (RGB values, or L*a*b values, or CMYK values) rather than the appearance of the image on the screen. So in a way, Dan's approach is quite absolute and mathematical, if followed rigorously. My question in all of this is that if you don't go by

RE: filmscanners: Which Buggy Software?

2001-07-16 Thread Lynn Allen
Cary wrote: Who am I to argue with Microsoft? w Who, indeed? Even when you win the argument, you lose. :-) --LRA _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Re: filmscanners: Grain, Noise, et al

2001-07-16 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
No flattening is necessary as I'm not using layers, just working with the individual channels. Just change the mode back to RGB and you're done for print or web. Maris - Original Message - From: Norman Unsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 12:37

OT: was Unsharp mask was Re: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread Lynn Allen
Dave wrote: Margulis may well be a genius, and so perhaps Austin would like him -- they could go to Mensa meetings together. :) Some years ago, I was thrown out of a Mensa convention gathering I'd wandered into with a cigarette in my hand (just to say hi to a friend), to many angry shouts of

filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Grain, Noise, et al

2001-07-16 Thread Rob Geraghty
Norman Unsworth wrote: Without a doubt, Rob, that's the best answer re: fundamentals. I've been shooting a lot of 400 speed, albeit quality films (Supra, Fuji NPH). The Supra 400 isn't too bad at all, really, but I've had some very grainy results shooting NPH with a flash. I haven't had the

filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Nikon Service

2001-07-16 Thread Rob Geraghty
Glad to hear it all worked out well! extension, in case something goes wrong with the repair. I think I'm home free right now, and I now have over a dozen rolls to get developed, and scanned. That will keep you busy - considering it's taken me two weeks to scan two rolls of film in my spare

Re: filmscanners: Adobe/SilverFast Color Management

2001-07-16 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
I have read Fraser. This is not a PS internal monitor compensation system problem. This is a hardware limitation problem - monitors cannot show the entire gamut of a wide color space and we all know this.and that was my point. The desaturate monitor colors . . . is an attempt to deal with

Re: OT: was Unsharp mask was Re: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread Tony Sleep
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:59:52 - Lynn Allen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Get out!! This is a *'Non-Smoking'* Hospitality Room!!! You misheard. They said 'hostility'. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons

Re: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread rafeb
At 06:42 PM 7/16/01 -, Lynn Allen wrote: OK, I've seen many posts similar to this in the last few months (even made a few, myself). If it's a given that service and repair are such terrible problems (and believe me, they are), why can't/don't mfgrs make service manuals more available?

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Tony Sleep
On Wed, 16 May 2001 08:26:58 -0400 Norman Quinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Evenly fogged. Much different for individually overexposed frames. If you can't see any print-through of sprocket holes, it may be heat fogging rather than X rays. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk -

Re: filmscanners: Which Buggy Software?

2001-07-16 Thread Tony Sleep
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:09:31 +1200 Colin Maddock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What are the MS COM components please Tony? MS newest technology for interchange of data between applications, sort of DDE/OLE Plus. I think. For W95 it was an add-on separate install, with W98 it's part of Windows

RE: filmscanners: Grain, Noise, et al

2001-07-16 Thread Tony Sleep
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:02:21 -0400 Norman Unsworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Interestingly, I just shot 2 rolls of Kodak T400CN for a local newspaper. I used Kodak mailers and when I got the pics negs back, all the pics had a pink cast This is normal and correct with TMax400CN, an

Re: filmscanners: Repro issues (was Which Buggy Software?)

2001-07-16 Thread Tony Sleep
On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 19:42:49 -0500 Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Dan's response would be that most repro houses don't use embedded color profiles anyway - they do it the old-fashioned way. If he's wrong, please tell him ;) He's largely right, although I just had a

Re: filmscanners: 1640SU @CompUSA $150

2001-07-16 Thread Pat Perez
The print ad specified the transparency adapter was included (at least here in Los Angeles), but the web site version of the ad doesn't make the same claim. Pat - Original Message - From: rafeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 03:58 PM 7/16/01 -0600, Stan wrote: This weekend's circular from

Re: filmscanners: Polaroid 120 carrier doesn't line up

2001-07-16 Thread rafeb
At 07:14 PM 7/16/01 +0100, Ian Lyons wrote: New carriers won't cure this problem, but a firmware update will fix it real easy. So don't let Polaroid go bust. Ironically, the best solution to this problem that I have seen is in the Epson 1640 TWAIN 5 driver. Since the TPU (transparency unit)

Re: Unsharp mask was Re: filmscanners: Getting started question

2001-07-16 Thread rafeb
At 01:11 PM 7/16/01 -0400, Dave King wrote: I disagree with him (Margulis) on one point however, and I consider myself a color balance freak. Why? In an average color photograph, global color contrast is maximized at one point only -- the most accurate color balance possible for that scene. I

Re: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread rafeb
At 06:42 PM 7/16/01 -, Lynn Allen wrote: Does anyone on the List know a good source for these? I for one would pay a few dollars (US, and cash ;-) ) for one that detailed the HP 5000-6800 flatbed scanners. I may not be an engineer, but (at least so far) my hands and my brain still work.

Re: filmscanners: Which Buggy Software?

2001-07-16 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
You're right on. Maris - Original Message - From: Tony Sleep [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Which Buggy Software? | On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:33:07 -0400 rafeb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: | | Nope. Dan's approach

RE: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread Austin Franklin
Does anyone on the List know a good source for these? I for one would pay a few dollars (US, and cash ;-) ) for one that detailed the HP 5000-6800 flatbed scanners. I have manuals for most of my equipment, and they are available from the manufacturer parts resource. They typically are

RE: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread Austin Franklin
These exposure options -- what is the range of variations? 2:1? 4:1? 8:1? From memory...16ms to whatever...in the 100ms+ range I believe. Why would you ever use the long exposure option if the short one yielded a scan that was as good? Increase DMax for positives...

RE: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread Austin Franklin
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Austin Franklin wrote: No, I disagree that I misrepresented anything. The conversation wasn't about resolution, so what was the point of you bringing that up? It was nit-picking, and not relevant to my comment. You don't need to chime in with every little point.

RE: filmscanners: Nikon MF LED light source...

2001-07-16 Thread Austin Franklin
I believe this says it all: Austin I can only suggest that the opportunities I take to dis the Leaf are only as annoying to you, as your chest puffing comments about the Leaf are to every one else. Okay, can't speak for every one else - annoying to me. This is a bunch of crap. It really

Re: filmscanners: 1640SU @CompUSA $150

2001-07-16 Thread rafeb
At 07:46 PM 7/16/01 -0700, Winsor Crosby wrote: If I am not mistaken that is the one that MacWorld in the US did not like because its tested resolution was no better than a good 1200 and there was a red bloom along edges. I already own one of these, and have reported on it extensively.