Peter wrote:
> I have done a few tests with my LS-30 using Julian Robinson's method --
> see http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~julian/ls2000-focus.htm
I'll have to try this is I get the time.
>My results:
>*Mounted slide in Slide Mount Adapter -- OK, all sharply focussed
>*Strip of film
Just a thought - I don't know the guts of how Photoshop produces histograms,
so this may not work as well as I think it could... Would it be a useful
comparison of scanners to scan the same slide with Vuescan to raw files
and compare the histograms? It seemed to me that this might give some sort
Rob Geraghty wrote
> If I recall the original situation correctly it was an LS2000. Are there
> problems with film flatness using the film strip holder (as opposed to the
> motorised film strip feeder)? The only time I've had focussing issues is
> with the film strip feeder at the ends of serio
Title: Re:proofing 35mm negs
Hello:
I believe that Tony Sleep posted a
question regarding how to get good proof sheets from negs on a
flatbed. Well, look no further! The Epson 1680 does such
an incredible job and I'm not easy to impress.
No more contacts the old fashioned
way for me! Now I j
Amen! I had 116 messages in my inbox when I downloaded my mail tonight and
31 of them were from Anthony most of them repeating some bull about
Polaroid primarily reflecting a closed mind. He's not going to change his
mind guys, why do you bother to try to enlighten him? At least take the OT
stuff
> While Apple Computer was happy to take home an Emmy for its FireWire
> technology, the company must be even more pleased that the high-speed
> connection is moving closer to a bigger goal-- becoming standard on the
> majority of PCs.
I guess this makes up for Apple adopting PCI, USB, & AGP :
Send a slide to me and I will send you a raw file on CD.
> How can I test it without buying it?
Moreno wrote:
>You can get glass mounts from Wess Plastics that show the full frame.
> Looking for suggestions as to the best way keep the film flat while scanning.
>Thought about glass mounts but I do not mount my images as the mounts tent
>to crop the image.
If I recall the original situation
FireWire poised to become ubiquitous
While Apple Computer was happy to take home an Emmy for its FireWire
technology, the company must be even more pleased that the high-speed
connection is moving closer to a bigger goal-- becoming standard on the
majority of PCs.
. . .
The origins of FireWire
Can't agree more Winsor, this fellow just likes to see his print on screen.
Every now and again an individual like this crops up on a list, the list mum
( dad? ) tries to maintain a tolerant attitude but eventually people get so
frustrated by a list that is getting clogged with pedantic drivel tha
> Austin writes:
>
> > You examined a 35mm slide on a light table
> > and concluded that there are no blown highlights
> > or blocked shadows on it?
>
> No, I saw detail in highlights and/or shadows that were missing
> on the scan.
You SAID they were not missing on the slide, which is what I said
on 8/27/01 3:55 PM, Anthony Atkielski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Austin writes:
>
>> You examined a 35mm slide on a light table
>> and concluded that there are no blown highlights
>> or blocked shadows on it?
>
> No, I saw detail in highlights and/or shadows that were missing on the scan.
>
Derek writes:
> Looking at your comments, I'm more and more
> convinced that you need to start planning for
> your next machine, and do it soon.
Unless and until I have the budget for a new machine, there is no point in
planning for one.
> This way even if you can't justify new gear
> right now
Derek writes:
> Well, that's why you plan for upgrades in advance
> rather than having to do them at the last moment.
I can't do that unless the vendors of the upgrades do that, too.
Besides, why should I plan for upgrades? I plan a system that does the job, and
so it should never need an upgr
Denise writes:
> You obviously can't afford to do anything
> but argue!
I'm sorry I'm poor.
Arthur writes:
> I also "assume" Imacon offers much more customer
> support for that price (at least I would hope so!)
I doubt it. Usually in domains like that, customer support actually costs
_more_, not less. If they can soak customers for $10K for a scanner, they have
a captive market, and
i have had numerous conversations with nikon about the LS-4000. that scanner
is a very advanced scanner capable of doing fabulous things for the true
professional. the true professional needs an updated computer system designed
for photography and graphics use, not office. i have had to do signi
Arthur writes:
> I honestly don't know how French prices and
> Australian prices compare on high tech gear.
I've been searching around, and I can't even find a price in France for the
LS-2000 or the SS4000. I'd expect them to be 2x or 3x the U.S. price, though.
Austin writes:
> You examined a 35mm slide on a light table
> and concluded that there are no blown highlights
> or blocked shadows on it?
No, I saw detail in highlights and/or shadows that were missing on the scan.
> > > Your main machine then has two NICs including
> > > the one you already own.
> >
> > I have no more slots for another NIC.
> >
> >
> I think mentioning that all your slots were full at the beginning would
> have helped...
>
> Use the other machine as the Internet interface then.
Anothe
Moreno writes:
> If you consider a state-of-the-art $10k Intel-based
> workstation a desktop, then what is your old NT box?
> A peashooter?
It's not price, it's purpose.
> Personally, I don't know any photographers, scanner
> operators, or prepress houses that are running
> computers more than
You can get glass mounts from Wess Plastics that show the full
frame.
Looking for suggestions as to the best way keep
the film flat while scanning. Thought about glass mounts but I do not
mount my images as the mounts tent to crop the image.
> It's not obvious to me why configuring NT routing isn't exactly the same
> problem as configuring a bought-in router, just with different syntax.
A simple standalone router offers a few advantages; it's pretty much a plug
and play operation (for basic use), doesn't require any system overhead o
Austin asks:
> Specifically, where... as in what's the URL,
> what magazine?
I don't remember.
on 8/27/01 2:58 PM, Anthony Atkielski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Without a gigabit connection to the Net, I don't see how Net backup would be
> practical. Even DSL and cable are far, far two slow for effective backup.
you're kidding
an incremental background backup while you sleep would wor
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Atkielski) wrote:
>
> > Derek writes:
> >
> > > Your main machine then has two NICs including
> > > the one you already own.
> >
> > I have no more slots for another NIC.
> >
> >
> I think mentioning that all your slots were full at the beginning would
> have he
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Atkielski) wrote:
> Derek writes:
>
> > Your main machine then has two NICs including
> > the one you already own.
>
> I have no more slots for another NIC.
>
>
I think mentioning that all your slots were full at the beginning would
have helped...
Use the other ma
> on 8/27/01 2:06 PM, Moreno Polloni at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > In fact, after
> >> removal of the $200 US rebate on both sides, our price here is just
> >> double that of the US. Is that silly or what?
Did I really write that?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hersch Nitikman) wrote:
> Challenger's destruction taught them that they had
> not thought of everything, but they tried.
They did think of that one!
There was just this middle management moron who ignored the procedures...
Looking for suggestions as to the best way keep the
film flat while scanning. Thought about glass mounts but I do not mount my
images as the mounts tent to crop the image.
have both a Nikon LS1000
There is not a driver available for Win 2000 but
Vuescan,Silverfast, and Nikon scan still f
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Atkielski) wrote:
>
> Not even remotely. Also, it is dangerous to assume that all programs
> _can_ be
> reinstalled. Typically, some things just won't work on a new OS, and
> there is
> no way to get around that. If the application you need for your
> business is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Atkielski) wrote:
> Sure, but performance is the very last of my concerns. My concern is
> getting
> any new system to do everything that the old system does, and that
> would not be
> easy--I'm not even sure that it would be possible.
Looking at your comments, I'm m
> Hi Anthony,
>
> Good to see you on here. Presumably things will get a lot quieter on the
> Leica list now...!?
>
> Tony, stand by for a lot more mail on this list now...
>
> :-)
>
> Tim A
Thanks, Tim...dawn breaks over marble head...I did not realize this Anthony
and "mxsmaniac", from the Leic
Gentlemen - please, some calm. I think (or hope) this thread has worked its
way through to an end.
Maris
- Original Message -
From: "Robert Meier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best film scanner, period!!!
It's not obvious to me why configuring NT routing isn't exactly the same
problem as configuring a bought-in router, just with different syntax.
NAT has some limits on what applications you can use on the Internet
connection, so it's not a no-brainer.
Also I'm trying to work within the budget e
Hi Anthony,
Good to see you on here. Presumably things will get a lot quieter on the
Leica list now...!?
Tony, stand by for a lot more mail on this list now...
:-)
Tim A
> Blown highlights and blocked shadows (I should never see both on
> a single scan,
> if the dynamic range is adequate), on a slide that contains neither when
> examined on a light table.
You examined a 35mm slide on a light table and concluded that there are no
blown highlights or blocked shado
Apparently the list has been taken over by someone with a "problem"
and not the one stated. He really does not want a solution to the
stated problem. He just wants you to talk and talk. About him.
--
Winsor Crosby
Long Beach, California
> > A large part of my business deals with 3D
> > animation, video editing, and pre-press graphics.
> > You may call these desktop systems, I call these
> > production systems.
>
> I call them desktop systems, within the context of this discussion.
If you consider a state-of-the-art $10k Intel-ba
> Rob asks:
>
> > Anthony, can I ask *where* you've "consistently heard"
> > this?
>
> Reviews on the Net and in magazines, and one or two sample scans
> I saw. The
> general opinion of the Nikon scanners seems to be consistently
> and significantly
> higher.
Specifically, where... as in wha
> The public has been very well brainwashed with respect to computer equipment.
> Not only do people not find it odd that they are expected to junk their
> computers every year or so and buy completely new hardware and software, but
> they've actually been convinced that this is the way things are
Robert writes:
> You have games installed on a mission-critical
> system??!!
Yes. I only have one system.
> A system that is so important that when it is
> out for a day or two would ruin your whole business?!!
Correct.
Does this surprise you? Games are just applications like any others.
I honestly don't know how French prices and Australian prices compare on
high tech gear. However, I would not be surprised if they are higher in
France. For one thing, the English speaking world has typically higher
internet and computer use. Secondly, many countries in Europe place high
interna
It was an incidental observation.
- Original Message -
From: "Robert Meier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 18:29
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Best film scanner, period!!!
>
> --- Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
2001-08-26-15:31:00 Derek Clarke:
> It's not good to bring an always-on Internet connection straight onto an
> internal LAN, you need something running firewall software in the way.
...like one of those cheap (i.e. non-Cisco) little NATing
router/switch combos? Seems like they're selling them i
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
>
> Pat writes:
>
> > Well, if ICE isn't a critical requirement, why
> > not look at the Polaroid (or the Canon, which
> > has an equivalent to ICE, and scans at 4000
> > dpi) which several people have suggested?
>
> Because I understand that it has less dynamic range
Johnny writes:
> The main one seems to be dust on the sensor.
Is all of the optical path readily accessible without disassembling the scanner,
as it is on the Nikon? On the LS-2000, I just brush dust off the mirror and
lens and everything is fine.
> The bundled Silverfast software is fine for
on 8/27/01 2:06 PM, Moreno Polloni at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In fact, after
>> removal of the $200 US rebate on both sides, our price here is just
>> double that of the US. Is that silly or what?
only if you pay it!
buy from b&h or calumet... I do here in Toronto.
--
John Brownlow
http:
Rob asks:
> Anthony, can I ask *where* you've "consistently heard"
> this?
Reviews on the Net and in magazines, and one or two sample scans I saw. The
general opinion of the Nikon scanners seems to be consistently and significantly
higher.
Johnny writes:
> I had an iMac in the next room and a 100 MHz
> powerbook sitting on my shelf, all hooked up
> to my home network.
Ah, well, I don't.
> The one thing that would make my life easier
> would be cheap off-site storage on the net
> (and a DVD writer for archiving scans).
Without a
You obviously can't afford to do anything but argue!
-Original Message-
From: Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: yet *another* low cost way to avoid the future
>Ian writes:
>
>
Austin writes:
> Scanner testing is VERY operator dependant.
Well, if I could feel confident that the SS4000 would indeed give me at least
the same dynamic range plus the higher resolution, I might well spring for it.
How is the software included with it? (I'm mainly concerned about driver
stab
> Anyway, having lived through a period where all my US friends couldn't
> understand how I could be working with such antiquated computers when
> they were so dirt cheap in the US, makes me a bit sensitive to pricing
> structures outside of the US. As an aside, our local camera shop has
> the Po
Jules wrote:
> Scan Elite users, I would like to hear from you on your thoughts on this
> scanners sharpness.
Hi. I wasn't sure whether the fixed focus on the Elite (or rather the DOF) would be
enough when I got mine. So I used a test based on a suggestion by Tony Sleep.
Get an old film lea
--- Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The VueScan documentation warns that it might not work very well on
> Polaroid
> scanners, though, as I recall.
According to previous messages from you it seems that you wouldn't have
time for multi scanning anyway. So why bother if it does or d
--- Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do have
> a few games installed, but they are about the only non-critical
> applications on
> the machine
You have games installed on a mission-critical system??!! A system that
is so important that when it is out for a day or two would ruin
Laurie, please understand that although my comments where "attached" to
your posting regarding cost of memory, it was not specifically directed
to you.
I certainly agree that most currently used memory has considerably
reduced prices, although rarer forms or obsolete ones have become rather
expen
Moreno Polloni wrote:
>
> > Not true in this case. Nikon simply decided to drop SCSI and Windows NT
> support
> > for their newer scanners. This was a marketing decision, not a technical
> > decision, and no technical advantage accrues from it.
>
> That's not true. How about plug and play? T
The only Windows SW available there is the Win 3.1
version (!)
Pat
--- "Shough, Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just aquired a Microtek 45T scanner, but it did
> not
> > come with the Microtek CD. I have Vuescan, so I'm
> not
> > out of luck. But if anyone on the list has the CD,
> I
> >
Respectfully, No.
The two best digital cameras - the Nikon DX-1 and the Canon D-30, approach
35mm transparency quality (I'll post links on the comparison). The gotcha
is that color film and B&W film exceed the capabilities of transparency
film.
Other factors:
The same Canon and Nikon use imagin
> I just aquired a Microtek 45T scanner, but it did not
> come with the Microtek CD. I have Vuescan, so I'm not
> out of luck. But if anyone on the list has the CD, I
> would appreciate a copy, if at all possible. Please
> contact me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Try going to ftp://ftp.microtek.
I just aquired a Microtek 45T scanner, but it did not
come with the Microtek CD. I have Vuescan, so I'm not
out of luck. But if anyone on the list has the CD, I
would appreciate a copy, if at all possible. Please
contact me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pat
_
what does a scanner have to with a money management business? if a computer
was so important you should have a back up. photographers do buy the newest
equipment which helps them make better photos and use the old as back ups.
also there are computer technicians that do the change over night. yo
i did.it might be a broken scanner. the upgraded system is wonderful
it works fine with some of that stuff as i have it but i am amassed that you
works with that stuff. what you need is a new computer and then eventually a
scanner.
Jeez, guys.
If you put half the effort into upgrading that you put into arguing
philosophical minutiae, all of your systems could be updated and put
through a rigorous crash testing program by now. :)
And when things drift off-topic, howz about remembering to change the
subject line? Then t
on 8/27/01 5:39 AM, Anthony Atkielski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've consistently heard that it isn't as good as the LS-2000, and some sample
> scans I've seen appear to support this. Specifically, it appears to have a
> smaller dynamic range.
I don't know where you've heard that, Anthony,
on 8/27/01 5:15 AM, Anthony Atkielski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I was up and running in an hour, and I had a
>> redundant backup set to fall back on even then.
>
> How did you manage to take delivery on a new machine in one hour?
I had an iMac in the next room and a 100 MHz powerbook sitti
"Anthony Atkielski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've consistently heard that it isn't as good as the LS-2000, and some
sample
> scans I've seen appear to support this. Specifically, it appears to have
a
> smaller dynamic range.
Anthony, can I ask *where* you've "consistently heard" this? What
"Anthony Atkielski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The VueScan documentation warns that it might not work very well on
Polaroid
> scanners, though, as I recall.
I doubt that it would. The Polaroid has more dynamic range than the LS30
without
multiscanning. What I *don't* know is whether the SS400
> > Since you say it yourself that this is only the
> > *theoretical* dynamic range then why do you already
> > exclude the Polaroid without making any actual test.
>
> I've consistently heard that it isn't as good as the LS-2000, and
> some sample
> scans I've seen appear to support this. Speci
> > > 2 x 75GB raid harddisks
> >
> > What RAID level are you running? Not all RAID makes things faster, in
> fact,
> > some makes it quite a bit slower.
> >
>
> Sorry, a 0 (zero) is missing after raid. The disks are striped and it does
> improve performance.
Yes, RAID 0 is the best for speed, b
- Original Message -
From: "Austin Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 27 August 2001 02:16
>
> > 2 x 75GB raid harddisks
>
> What RAID level are you running? Not all RAID makes things faster, in
fact,
> some makes it quite a bit slower.
>
Sorry, a 0 (zero) is
> windows 2000 professional addition is an undated
> version of windows nt and it works well.
Can you guarantee that every one of my applications will run on it without
change? How do I support my 1800 Type 1 fonts, for example? How does it handle
dongles? How well does it work with PPTP and D
Unless I find one that I can plug in in place of the old one, yes, that's true.
- Original Message -
From: "Pat Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 06:29
Subject: Re: filmscanners: yet *another* low cost way to avoid the future
> Well I gues
> what do you do that you need all the applications
> and networking?
I try to earn a living, as opposed to just playing with the machine. I do have
a few games installed, but they are about the only non-critical applications on
the machine (and, ironically, they are the most likely to reinstall
John writes:
> This seems to imply that if your computer goes down
> you are out of business. Not a great prospect.
That is exactly correct, but I have no alternative at present. Incidentally, a
great many small businesses are in the same boat. The failure rate for small
businesses (and large
Moreno writes:
> Yes there has. From Microsoft. Look it up yourself.
I can't look up what doesn't exist. Next time, verify that something really
exists before you assert that it is there.
Rob writes:
> I've done multipass scanning on the LS30
> without registration problems.
The VueScan documentation warns that it might not work very well on Polaroid
scanners, though, as I recall.
> But judging by Ed's comments about the long
> pass feature, I'd say that single pass
> multiscann
Just upgrade your system!
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 08:57
Subject: filmscanners: ls-4000
> i have been unable to install my LS-4000 with a firewire card.i can do a
> prescan, autoexposure in scan and then it stop
Robert writes:
> Since you say it yourself that this is only the
> *theoretical* dynamic range then why do you already
> exclude the Polaroid without making any actual test.
I've consistently heard that it isn't as good as the LS-2000, and some sample
scans I've seen appear to support this. Spe
Robert writes:
> But you are going from a 2700dpi (LS-2000) to a
> 4000dpi (LS-4000) scanner. This very obviously does
> change the requirements of your system ...
Not enough to mandate an upgrade. At most, I'd have to add some RAM.
> In addition, time seems to be of critical importance
> to y
> he certainly does not deleiver photos over
> internet as his system will not take a dsl line.
Even an old 386 will support DSL.
> plenty of people upgrade their camera equipment
> when better nikon products come on market.
I don't know of any, but I suppose there may be a few geeks out there who are
more interested in buying a newer version of the same thing than in going out
and taking pictures.
> plenty of people repla
Ian writes:
> And I'm surprised that you don't have a dupe
> of it sitting in a cupboard for the day it fries
> something. I would. I do.
I can't afford the capital outlay. I can barely pay the rent as it is. The
current configuration I purchased in better days, when I could afford the best.
Karl writes:
> Their product lifecycle is five+ years. For NT 4.0
> they've also released the dates for
> this to happen:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle.asp
They've tried that before. They always end up supporting things beyond that
date, as large customers insist on it. Notice
Ian writes:
> Wotta crusty old bastard.
Maybe, but you know, I spend a lot of time listening to friends and relatives
complain to me about their computers that crash for no reason and several times
a day, the mysterious error messages they see, the things that suddenly stop
working, and so on, a
Space and money prevent this strategy for me, although I will grant that it
works. But just paying for and finding a place for a new scanner would be a
stretch (already $1700), so spending additional thousands and additional square
metres for a parallel system is not economically feasible at this
Preben writes:
> That is absolutely not the case for the type
> of computer that you and most of us had or most
> probably could have afforded "some years" ago...!
I'm running a 2x 200 MHz PPro, and it is just fine for my requirements. It was
fine when I bought it, too. It is almost six years
Johnny writes:
> AA's arguments lead to the conclusion that one
> would never have to upgrade a system that was
> at one time 'fast enough'
Correct. If you are doing the same thing you were doing when you bought the
system, there is never any reason to upgrade it. It doesn't get any slower ove
Jawed writes:
> Anthony, see my site with a few samples that
> show the LS40 with Nikon Scan 3.1 with "difficult"
> slides (Provia 100 F RDP3, Velvia). This
> combination never clips highlights and gets
> a lot out of the shadows with little noise.
I get my best results with my LS-2000 using Ni
Moreno writes:
> A large part of my business deals with 3D
> animation, video editing, and pre-press graphics.
> You may call these desktop systems, I call these
> production systems.
I call them desktop systems, within the context of this discussion.
> In the context of this scanner newsgroup,
i have been unable to install my LS-4000 with a firewire card.i can do a
prescan, autoexposure in scan and then it stops and the green light flashes.
has amyone experienced this? any suggestion. my computer is new has plenty of
ram.
plenty of people upgrade their camera equipment when better nikon products
come on market. plenty of people replace cars when they become obsolete or
are to expensive to fix, why aren't you mad at the auto industry. they also
stop making part for car they consider old. in the time you have writt
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