Roy,
All the stuff about number of levels and resolution are
artifacts of the
digital process and not part of the DyR concept which existed
way before
the word digital was even coined.
...
I believe the concept of resolution is inherent in the concept
of dynamic
range. Whether
Art, thanks for your observation, I if you intent to advocate the SS4000 for
lack of ICE3 you couldn't.
Perhaps I didn't' get your mood right, but in my original posting I didn't
mean to blame Polaroid for absence of these features. Some people do like it
some not, it depends.
The Polaroid
on 9/2/02 12:20 AM, Austin Franklin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Roy,
I see how size can have a merit (which is a relative ratio),
and range, as
they apply to dynamic range. Size in the fact that the largest
signal is N
times larger than the smallest...and range in that you can say
all
At 08:37 PM 9/1/2002 -0700, Bruce wrote:
Please, enough already with the dynamic range argument. I want to learn
about scanners.
Thanks.
-bruce
Bruce,
You've made a common mistake.
Once upon a time, scanners were the focus of this list.
However, it has now become the domain for the all
I'm curious if there are list members who made the step to upgrade
from the FS2710 and to what. I'm overall quite pleased with the 2710,
and feel that I've put in a lot of time learning how to get the most
from it. I'm sure others probably experienced the same thing.
I'm interested to know
I did not, but Roger Smith has. He went to a Minolta Dual Scan II.
Rather than try to speak for him, perhaps he will comment if he is around.
I can tell you that Roger showed me some comparison scans. The main
areas I saw for improvement were:
Cleaner shadows with more detail, helped by
Though I haven't bought one yet I am planning to. The CompUSA in
Monroeville, PA has 4 sitting on the shelf.
Howard
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Roy,
Gee, Austin, here again you snip totally out of context. I DIDN'T
say the following quote. Vincent said it and I explicitly cited
him as the author.
Dynamic range is the ability to distinguish tonal differences.
I thought that this was what YOU were quoting, as it has double
I have been reading the ongoing discussion regarding dynamic range and it
appears to be approaching the discussion about how many angels can sit on
the head of a pin. There is a practical side of dynamic range however and
that is this, How much information can I get out of the shadow areas of
At 2:46 PM -0700 9/2/02, Ken Durling wrote:
I'm curious if there are list members who made the step to upgrade
from the FS2710 and to what. I'm overall quite pleased with the 2710,
and feel that I've put in a lot of time learning how to get the most
from it. I'm sure others probably experienced
If I Knew anything about running a list I'd start a SCANNERS list and have two or
three references - one as per Julian , one per Austin and one other. People could
choose who they wanted to believe. If this ongoing crap started up it certainly would
not be posted. Maybe they would then take
At 10:16 PM -0300 9/2/02, Roger Smith wrote:
Hi Ken,
I went from the FS2710 to the Minolta Scan Dual II (2820
ppi). On the positive side, the Minolta gave slightly sharper scans
with better shadow detail (especially with VueScan). It also has a
four-slide holder.
On the negative
The topics of density range and dynamic range are relevant and pertinant to
scanners and scanning; unfortunately, the discussion has taken on a life of
itsown and ranged away from what is relevant and pertinent to scanning and
scanners to what is of interest to engineers and academics. This is
I agree. This _is_ the place to discuss dynamic range with respect to film
scanners. I don't think anyone can reasonably complain about it, as long as
it's labeled as such in the subject line. It's no harder to hit Delete on
something that says Dynamic Range in the subject than it is to hit
This discussion WAS, at one time, about scanning. I have tried to keep it
about scanning, as well as have a few others. This topic IS directly
related to scanning, and is, in my opinion, and important aspect of film,
film scanning, digital image manipulation and printing. Unfortunately, for
Jonathan,
I have been reading the ongoing discussion regarding dynamic range and it
appears to be approaching the discussion about how many angels can sit on
the head of a pin. There is a practical side of dynamic range however and
that is this, How much information can I get out of the
Hi Paul-
An unfortunate analogy, perhaps. Whereas I only get to delete 1 or 2
Viagra ads a day, this list, like others before it, has recently been taken
over by an endless stream of going-no-where tit-for-tat back-and-forth,
involving only a few list members. As in all of the similar diatribe
Roy,
Here's a small example: we have a voltage of 9.37 volts.
But then how do you even have a voltage of 9.37V in the first place? How
did you measure it at that?
First the quantization situation, we have a digital volt meter that
measures to the nearest volt. The quantization error or
Bill,
An unfortunate analogy, perhaps. Whereas I only get to delete 1 or 2
Viagra ads a day, this list, like others before it, has recently
been taken
over by an endless stream of going-no-where tit-for-tat back-and-forth,
involving only a few list members. As in all of the similar
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