[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Bob Frost
Austin, With mixed feelings so far! My unit had something loose inside the case when I unwrapped it, and eventually I got the offending object out - a very small black screw. Not knowing what damage this might have done to the optics whilst rattling around during transit, or what part it might

[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Robert Logan
Austin Franklin wrote: I believe you're missing the point. It doesn't matter if you have a color file that has 100 bits/color, you simply aren't visually capable (because you are a human) of seeing a difference between that and an 8 bits/color file. It has nothing to do with the tools [of]

[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Robert Logan
Arthur Entlich wrote: I don't think anyone is trying to talk you out of making and storing 16 bit scans. Good. Thats where I am. If you have the time to work with that large a file, and the disk space or other storage to do so, then go and do it. Thanks. wonder what you'll be doing when

[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Austin Franklin
Robert, You are telling me that there is no point in using 16 bit, yet working with grayscale there is! Grayscale only has one channel, and the TOTAL number of bits available is only 8 bits per pixel, for 8 bit grayscale. For color, there are three color channels available, and therefore the

[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Austin Franklin
Oh Robert, Austin Franklin wrote: I believe you're missing the point. It doesn't matter if you have a color file that has 100 bits/color, you simply aren't visually capable (because you are a human) of seeing a difference between that and an 8 bits/color file. It has nothing to do

[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
From: Robert Logan The tools of tomorrow, be they better hardware, or better software, may allow me to manipulate the 16 bit data (14 bit in my case), better to produce a better looking image. If I have 256(8bit) greens in my file, and in the other I have 257(16bit), then I have more to

[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grayscale only has one channel, and the TOTAL number of bits available is only 8 bits per pixel, for 8 bit grayscale. For color, there are three color channels available, and therefore the TOTAL number of bits per pixel is actually TWENTY-FOUR using 8 bit/color

[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Austin Franklin
Grayscale only has one channel, and the TOTAL number of bits available is only 8 bits per pixel, for 8 bit grayscale. For color, there are three color channels available, and therefore the TOTAL number of bits per pixel is actually TWENTY-FOUR using 8 bit/color pixels, instead of simply

[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Frank Paris
Bert, I'm with you. These guys must be smoking dope besides having poor color discrimination. This exchange is hilarious. Frank Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Logan Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003

[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Frank Paris
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16 Robert, I would hardly call your position enlightened. You've got

[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-13 Thread Austin Franklin
I would hardly call your position enlightened. You've got clear misunderstanding of some of the concepts here, as well as apparent lack of experience. If I were you, given what I've read here, I'd strongly suggest you either try to learn something, instead of try to rationalize your

[filmscanners] 24bit vs more

2003-09-13 Thread Rob Geraghty
Unfortunately I'm not one of the lucky majority who have scanners that produce data with more than 10 bits per channel. I am still stuck with my LS30. I don't know about other scanners, but I can say that difference between scanning using Vuescan at 10 bits per channel instead of Nikonscan at 8

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-13 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Rob, I dispute the claim that if you have to do a significant amount of adjustment after scanning that you haven't done it right. It depends on the circumstances. Hum. Obviously, I disagree, and note, it's not just after scanning but after scanning and letting the scanner do setpoints