RE: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread LAURIE SOLOMON
copies and give away or sell the original copy that you legally own. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...) Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: The Nikon

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Arthur Entlich
Hi Phil, Your problem may be bigger than the lack of Genuine Fractals. What you have received is probably something called gray market goods. They are very commonly sold among mail order retailers. To briefly explain the difference between white market and gray market, white market goods are

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Raymond Carles
Hi Phil, Just received my new Nikon 4000 tonight. It came without Genuine Fractal, a software I would love to get. Well, one more time, Nikon is treating us, non US users, as second class customers! But a FireWire (IEEE-1394) card was included, that I don't need... Any one willing for a trade?

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Bill Fernandez
At 12:32 PM -0400 20-9-01, Phil wrote: If you are inside the United States, and you have purchased the Nikon 4000, can you please tell me if your scanner came bundled with Genuine Fractals? Hi Phil-- Received Nikon LS4000 ED from computers4sure.com about a week ago. The NikonScan 3.1 CD-ROM

RE: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
At 01:34 21-09-01 -0500, LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: Does the license allow me to do that? Usually OEM software bundled with hardware doesn't allow that so I'm not sure in this case. Usually all software (bundled or not) allow one to give away the software, or in some cases even resell it, as long

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Scales
I think you want to be careful. I disagree with this position. Most bundled OEM software is licensed to the computer that has the equipment attached. I would carefully read the license agreement before sending it to your son. It's not worth risking his career over this piece of software. I

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
At 07:57 21-09-01 -0500, you wrote: I think you want to be careful. I disagree with this position. Most bundled OEM software is licensed to the computer that has the equipment attached. I would carefully read the license agreement before sending it to your son. It's not worth risking his career

RE: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Austin Franklin
I think you want to be careful. I disagree with this position. Most bundled OEM software is licensed to the computer that has the equipment attached. I would carefully read the license agreement before sending it to your son. It's not worth risking his career over this piece of software.

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Scales
I clearly agree with that, but I tend to err on the side of being conservative when it comes to a 'work' machine (in this case the Air Force). As someone in the software business, I'd rather buy an extra copy then risk it. Tom These software EULAs can say/claim anything they want, but the

RE: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
I think you want to be careful. I disagree with this position. Most bundled OEM software is licensed to the computer that has the equipment attached. I would carefully read the license agreement before sending it to your son. It's not worth risking his career over this piece of

RE: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Austin Franklin
I absolutely understand and agree! -Original Message- I clearly agree with that, but I tend to err on the side of being conservative when it comes to a 'work' machine (in this case the Air Force). As someone in the software business, I'd rather buy an extra copy then risk

RE: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Austin Franklin
At 10:06 21-09-01 -0400, Austin Franklin wrote: These software EULAs can say/claim anything they want, but the law can be entirely different than what they claim! I do not know your specific situation, and I am in no way endorsing software piracy. Let's not inadvertently misdirect the

RE: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Austin Franklin
At 14:22 21-09-01 -0400, you wrote: At 10:06 21-09-01 -0400, Austin Franklin wrote: These software EULAs can say/claim anything they want, but the law can be entirely different than what they claim! I do not know your specific situation, and I am in no way endorsing software

RE: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-21 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
At 14:22 21-09-01 -0400, you wrote: At 10:06 21-09-01 -0400, Austin Franklin wrote: These software EULAs can say/claim anything they want, but the law can be entirely different than what they claim! I do not know your specific situation, and I am in no way endorsing software piracy.

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-20 Thread Moreno Polloni
If you are outside the United States, and you have purchased the Nikon 4000, can you please tell me if your scanner came bundled with Genuine Fractals? I can tell you that the Nikon scanners sold in Canada do not come with Genuine Fractals. I believe it is a Nikon USA only bundle.

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-20 Thread Joe Oldham
on 9/20/01 9:32 AM, Phil at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, I'm in the United States. I ordered the Nikon CoolScan 4000 on the internet. The day after I ordered it, I got an e-mail from the retailer. Call us as soon as possible about your Nikon 4000 order! I called them. They

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-20 Thread Brian D. Plikaytis
I am in the U.S. and I can state that Genuine Fractals did come bundled with the scanner. The online documentation (on the CD) was not informative and in some cases erroneous. I eventually had to go to their website to look at the documentation there to understand how to work the software. Brian

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-20 Thread Eddie Cairns
In the UK it does not come with genuine fractals. - Original Message - From: Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Filmscanners [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals Hello List, I'm in the United States. I

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-20 Thread Barbara Martin Greene
] Subject: Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals on 9/20/01 9:32 AM, Phil at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, I'm in the United States. I ordered the Nikon CoolScan 4000 on the internet. The day after I ordered it, I got an e-mail from the retailer. Call us as soon

Re: filmscanners: The Nikon 4000 and Genuine Fractals

2001-09-20 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)
At 18:45 20-09-01 -0400, you wrote: Joe I bought the Nikon 4000 from Ritz Camera and it came with Genuine Fractals. I think that it is only the grey market products that don't come with it. I bought my LS4000 retail at KEH Cameras in Atlanta. It came with Genuine Fractals though it wasn't