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2001-06-14 Thread B.Rumary
In <001101c0f411$012076a0$380a@phoenix>, Rob Geraghty wrote: > FWIW I scanned a frame off a recent roll of T400CN and in the midtones there > is no significant grain visible at 2700dpi. There's something like grain in > the shadows but as it's a C41 B&W neg film I'm not sure how to label it.

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-14 Thread rafeb
At 01:22 PM 6/14/01 +1000, Yuri J Sos wrote: >At the same ISO, I really can't tell the difference (but I don't do >much portrait photography). Most of the time now I use Superia 200 >where I used to used Reala 100 and for what I do (web and prints to >max 8"x10") it's perfectly satisfactory. Pl

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-14 Thread Arthur Entlich
Raphael Bustin wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, [iso-8859-1] Rob Geraghty wrote: > > >> Rafe wrote: >> >>> Fuji Reala is beautiful. Kodak Royal Gold 100 isn't >>> bad, either. But Supra (100) is my current favorite. >> >> I was under the impression that there was little if any >> diffe

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-13 Thread Yuri J Sos
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:44:19 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Which is better (Reala or Superia) >at the same ISO? Given that I like Reala, >would I like Superia? At the same ISO, I really can't tell the difference (but I don't do much portrait photography). Most of the time now I use Superia 200 wh

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2001-06-13 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Raphael Bustin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First off, Supra is a C41 print film. Superia, > as I recall, as an E6 positive film. Fuji's > "equivalent" to Supra might be Reala, perhaps. No. Superia is a C41 print film. At least in Australia, all the Fuji retail (non pro) colour print films

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2001-06-13 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
Fujicolor Superia is print film, negative but not positive. Maris - Original Message - From: "Raphael Bustin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:47 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance,

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-13 Thread Yuri J Sos
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:47:38 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >First off, Supra is a C41 print film. Superia, >as I recall, as an E6 positive film. Fuji's >"equivalent" to Supra might be Reala, perhaps. Not so. Superia is a C41 colour negative film. Fuji claims that Superia contains Reala technolog

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-13 Thread Raphael Bustin
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, [iso-8859-1] Rob Geraghty wrote: > Rafe wrote: > >Fuji Reala is beautiful. Kodak Royal Gold 100 isn't > >bad, either. But Supra (100) is my current favorite. > > I was under the impression that there was little if any > difference between the current generation Superia 1

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2001-06-12 Thread Rob Geraghty
Rafe wrote: >Fuji Reala is beautiful. Kodak Royal Gold 100 isn't >bad, either. But Supra (100) is my current favorite. I was under the impression that there was little if any difference between the current generation Superia 100 and Reala. When Fuji announced the extra colour layer, it seemed

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-12 Thread Edwin Eleazer
I have been very pleased with the Supra 100 with my LS-30, and at $3.04 a 36 exp roll, an excellent buy. Edwin - Original Message - From: "Maris V. Lidaka, Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:56 PM Subject: Re: films

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-12 Thread Kevin Power
I tried Superia 200 and 400 and they were both grainy - the 400 moreso. - Original Message - From: "Maris V. Lidaka, Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:56 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now

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2001-06-12 Thread rafeb
At 05:08 PM 6/12/01 -0400, Dan wrote: >What are the best color and b&w films in terms of scanning? From what I've >read thus far, it sounds like Kodak Supra has a slight edge for color, and >the C41 processed films (XP2 super and T400CN) for b&w. Are there others? > >Also, if one is planning ul

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-12 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:08 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust | What are the best color and b&w films in terms of scanning? From what I've | read thus far, it sounds like Kodak Supra has a s

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2001-06-12 Thread Rob Geraghty
Dan wrote: > What are the best color and b&w films in terms > of scanning? This is a question which I began attempting to quantify at least in the sense of a guide if not actually a scientific way. Unfortunately it's an expensive and time consuming exercise to test every possible film in the sam

RE: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-12 Thread Dan Honemann
What are the best color and b&w films in terms of scanning? From what I've read thus far, it sounds like Kodak Supra has a slight edge for color, and the C41 processed films (XP2 super and T400CN) for b&w. Are there others? Also, if one is planning ultimately to scan and maintain files in digit

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-12 Thread Dave King
I see the last snips never made it to the list. Did you get them (sent directly to you)? Dave > David, would you be kind enough to post the same two images that you did > previously, but this time using the unsharp masking you feel best > "glorifies" the Agfa scan.

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-11 Thread Arthur Entlich
Dave King wrote: > > Perhaps not from a design perspective, but from a users perspective it > seems perfectly reasonable to evaluate scan data in the context of end > results. After working on both scans, the Agfa, to my eye, has > recorded more real image data. Rafe brought up the idea of

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-11 Thread Dave King
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In a message dated 6/10/2001 6:22:35 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The Agfa is definitely softer, > > no argument there, but when I apply unsharp masking to the Agfa scan > > on the order of 75%, 0.8 radius, 0 threshold to the Agfa scan, which > > is my no

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-11 Thread rafeb
At 02:56 AM 6/11/01 EDT, Ed Hamrick wrote: >Unsharp masking isn't a reasonable way to compare the scans, since >this doesn't get to the root of why there's a difference between the >results from the two scanners. I disagree here, Ed. Here's why. It seems some scanner vendors (maybe all) imple

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2001-06-11 Thread EdHamrick
In a message dated 6/10/2001 6:22:35 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The Agfa is definitely softer, > no argument there, but when I apply unsharp masking to the Agfa scan > on the order of 75%, 0.8 radius, 0 threshold to the Agfa scan, which > is my normal amount to sharpen grain with the

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-10 Thread Dave King
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In spite of this, it appears clear that the T-2500 doesn't focus > as well as the Nikon scan, and this is most of the reason that > the dust spots are different. > > Regards, > Ed Hamrick I've been playing with these two tiffs (sent to Ed) a bit more, and no matter how

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-10 Thread Dave King
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In a message dated 6/10/2001 4:13:40 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The T-2500 scan (agfsnipVS) is a bit softer and flatter than the LS-30 > > scan (niksnipVS). After sharpening and correcting tone on both scans, > > I thought the T-2500 scan rendered image

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-10 Thread EdHamrick
In a message dated 6/10/2001 4:13:40 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The T-2500 scan (agfsnipVS) is a bit softer and flatter than the LS-30 > scan (niksnipVS). After sharpening and correcting tone on both scans, > I thought the T-2500 scan rendered image detail slightly better than > the

RE: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-10 Thread shAf
Dave writes ... > > > It would be useful if you'd do a 2500 dpi and 2700 dpi scan of the > > > same bits of film, to demonstrate the effect you're talking about. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Ed Hamrick > > ... > > Or I should say, can someone tell me how to make the files as small as > possible wit

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-10 Thread Dave King
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In a message dated 6/10/2001 8:32:54 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I've never done critical comparisons of resolution between > > them, as they both resolve grain pretty well, and seem about the same > > in terms of resolution. > > It would be useful if yo

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-10 Thread EdHamrick
In a message dated 6/10/2001 8:32:54 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I've never done critical comparisons of resolution between > them, as they both resolve grain pretty well, and seem about the same > in terms of resolution. It would be useful if you'd do a 2500 dpi and 2700 dpi scan of t

Re: filmscanners: Was New Nikon performance, now dust

2001-06-10 Thread Dave King
From: Isaac Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For the record, I don't own a Nikon scanner, heck I don't own any > scanner right now... I'm using this forum as a means to figure out what > it is I want to get. I have done darkroom work for years, and I use two > film scanners at work. I have to say t