Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Arthur Entlich
OH, now I'm clearer on this... This relatively fast, unexposed film was X-rayed 8 times prior to being exposed. That would place it at considerable risk of being damaged. Art Norman Quinn wrote: No just the film. This is the 1st time I have had fogged film too. Did the film travel as

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Arthur Entlich
The last time I was in the states, about a year ago, I left from an airport in Syracuse NY. When I asked for hand inspection of my camera bag and film, the two elderly gents, who looked like they were retired FBI to me, said they wanted to have the equipment chemically sniffed. They took some

RE: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Dave Buyens
Norman Quinn wrote: Apparently two rolls of color print film were either fogged by an xray machine or poorly developed. The entire roll film is very dense but there are images there. Norman, I curious, is the edge of the film (by the holes) darkened? I'm making the assumption that the

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Tony Sleep
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:45:11 -0400 Norman Quinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Would have been 8-10 passes though scanners Jamaica, Miami, Puerto = Rico, St. Thomas and back. FWIW X-ray exposure is completely cumulative, there is no reciprocity failure. That is, each bit of exposure

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-16 Thread Tony Sleep
On Wed, 16 May 2001 08:26:58 -0400 Norman Quinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Evenly fogged. Much different for individually overexposed frames. If you can't see any print-through of sprocket holes, it may be heat fogging rather than X rays. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk -

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-15 Thread Rob Geraghty
Derek Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I presume you mean security staff at the entrance to airside rather than check in staff? Correct. Film must never be left in checked baggage these days, the X-ray machines they use for that are guaranteed to fog your film. It's a pity they don't warn

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-15 Thread Rob Geraghty
Norman Quinn wrote: 800 and 400ISO. two rolls of kodak film Ouch. I can see why you had a problem especially given this; Would have been 8-10 passes though scanners Jamaica, Miami, Puerto Rico, St. Thomas and back. Double ouch. Could you have processed the C41 somewhere locally? I

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-15 Thread Arthur Entlich
...hopefully. Best regards, not to mention good luck--LRA From: Norman Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: fogged film Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 06:13:36 -0500 I think that Vuescan will obtain the maximum information

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-15 Thread Arthur Entlich
Norman Quinn wrote: No just the film. This is the 1st time I have had fogged film too. The poor technican at the lab thought his machine had misdeveloped them, but strips B4 and after mine were fine. It must be X-ray. I had just returned from a trip. Norman Quinn Older machines in

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-15 Thread Lynn Allen
Art wrote: Usually they won't even both[er] to open the canisters, although sometimes they will. It may (or may not) be worth mentioning that smugglers have been using film canisters for quite some time. Occasionally, there's going to be an overzealous customs inspector, especially when you

RE: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-15 Thread Tony Sleep
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 04:57:00 -0400 Dave Buyens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: For black white film that is very dense, there is something called farmer's reducer that chemically washes some of the denseness from the film. And the image too, if you aren't careful:) Assuming you have color

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-15 Thread Norman Quinn
No just the film. This is the 1st time I have had fogged film too.Did the film travel as hand baggage, or in hold luggage? Hand baggage, but it was checked about 8 times. I did not expose the film on the trip. I was exposed when I returned to Jamaica.

filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-15 Thread Rob Geraghty
Norman Quinn wrote: Hand baggage, but it was checked about 8 times. I did not expose the film on the trip. It was exposed when I returned to Jamaica. I'd guess this could make the problem worse since taking the photos was trying to add an image to a film that was already exposed by the Xrays.

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
Though I have barely used NikonScan and know nothing of the HP scanner software, I think that Vuescan will obtain the maximum information available from the admittedly foggy and dense film - it's design will do that.You may have to adjust the gamma and brightness settings to do so, or even by

RE: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread Dave Buyens
Norman, For black white film that is very dense, there is something called farmer's reducer that chemically washes some of the denseness from the film. Assuming you have color negatives, you might want to investigate if such a thing works for you too? Maybe someone on the list knows? Dave B.

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread Herm
Forget about the HP Photosmart, the way to do is with the Nikon and Vuescan, and use the multiscan feature (experiment with number of passes). Output your files in 48bit tif mode so that Photoshop has a chance of adjusting the levels.. expect some noise (grain) in the shadows. Adjust the

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread Tony Sleep
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:58:08 -0400 Norman Quinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Apparently two rolls of color print film were either fogged by an xray = machine or poorly developed.=20 The entire roll film is very dense but there are images there. Urgh! You'd probably do best to use the LS2000

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread Rob Geraghty
Norman Quinn wrote: Using a Nikon 2000 scanner or a HP Photo smart scanner and nikon and vuescan software, what would be the best place to start to extract the images from the film. I agree with Tony - scan with the LS2000 to 48bit files and use autolevels in PS to get close to the most

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread rafeb
At 08:38 AM 7/15/01 +1000, Rob Geraghty wrote: Fair enough! I just took some photos of coral on the Great Barrier Reef and underwater photography is a whole new challenge. Some of the coral near the surface looked slightly bleached to me. If they're anything like the corals off the coast of

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread Derek Clarke
I presume you mean security staff at the entrance to airside rather than check in staff? Film must never be left in checked baggage these days, the X-ray machines they use for that are guaranteed to fog your film. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Geraghty) wrote: Norman Quinn wrote: No just the

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread Robert Meier
--- Norman Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised that there was X-ray fogging, unless the camera went through the machine with exposed film in it. If you do not use high ISO film you can let it through the X-ray for HANDBAGGAGE safely a few times. But NEVER leave film in checked

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread Norman Quinn
Norman Quinn wrote:No just the film. This is the 1st time I have had fogged film too.The poor technican at the lab thought his machine had misdeveloped them, but strips B4 and after mine were fine.It must be X-ray. I had just returned from a trip.Out of interest what speed was

Re: filmscanners: fogged film

2001-07-14 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:13 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: fogged film | | I think that Vuescan will obtain the maximum information available | from the admittedly foggy and dense film - it's design will do that. | You | may have to adjust