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2001-07-02 Thread Arthur Entlich
Am I mistaken, or wasn't the Minolta CLE also sold in a different skin as a Leica? Dave King wrote: I'm a big Minolta CLE fan also. I sold my Leica M camera years ago to get one. It doesn't have the build quality of an M, and the auto exposure shutter electronics can be finicky (don't

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2001-07-02 Thread Dave King
Leica) info. http://www.cameraquest.com/cle.htm Dave - Original Message - From: Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 4:03 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Digicams again was Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera Am I mistaken

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2001-06-30 Thread Walter Bushell
SNIP Any filtering of this nature would not be done at the lens level. A lens is an optical device, and the best thing it can do is accurately translate everything it sees to the sensitive/recording layer. This is what all lenses strive toward. If any type of resolution lowering were to

Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread Arthur Entlich
Walter Bushell wrote: It is precisely the randomized nature of film that alaising does not occur. There is no grid, so there is nothing to beat against, so to speak. So maybe the answer is to randomize the sensor array, Captain? Of course, while keeping the dilithium crystals aligned...

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2001-06-30 Thread Frank Nichols
: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera SNIP Any filtering of this nature would not be done at the lens level. A lens is an optical device, and the best thing it can do is accurately translate everything it sees to the sensitive/recording layer. This is what all lenses strive toward. If any type

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2001-06-30 Thread Frank Nichols
: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera --- Frank Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on the advances in RAM technology over the past 10 years I am predicting a 1Giga Pixel camera in the not too distant future (5 years or less). The significance of this camera will be a drastic

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2001-06-30 Thread Robert Meier
Frank, Memory has increased at a rate of about 2 every 1.5 years. There is good reason to believe that this will not change a lot during the next few years to come. Even with new technologies being developed (if it succeeds and can be used for imagers) it takes years to get it ready for

RE: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-30 Thread rafeb
At 07:43 AM 6/30/01 -0600, Frank Nichols wrote: I wonder if it would be posisble to create a randomized pattern of sensors on a CCD/CMOS chip? This flies in the face of all known sampling theory! I suspect that the optical system in most scanners provides more than enough filtering to limit

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2001-06-30 Thread rafeb
At 07:42 AM 6/30/01 -0600, Frank Nichols wrote: Robert, I understand your hesitancy, however, you make several assumptions that I didnt. 1. SNR remains at todays levels. 2. Sensitivity remains at todays levels. 3. The array would be small - why not a 4 x 6 with a 10x increase in density? that

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2001-06-30 Thread Rob Geraghty
Dan Honemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snippage] possibility of 6 Megapixel CCDs that are the same size as a 35 mm frame, I have to wonder if a $3k film scanner is a smart investment right now. I for one have hundreds of images already on 35mm film I want to translate to digital, so the film

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2001-06-30 Thread Rob Geraghty
rafeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also don't really believe in film-grain aliasing -- film grain is essentially non-periodic, or, more accurately white noise -- ie, containing an even distribution of frequency elements from DC to infinity. I don't see why that excludes aliasing of the CCD

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2001-06-30 Thread Al Bond
Herch wrote: However, there is no way I could use a D-1x, or an F-5 and a set of lenses, etc., without pain and suffering. Rafe wrote: I visited Michael Reichmann's web site yesterday (not sure about the spelling) wherein he claims that the Canon D30 produces a better image, all around,

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2001-06-30 Thread Dave King
Herch wrote: However, there is no way I could use a D-1x, or an F-5 and a set of lenses, etc., without pain and suffering. Rafe wrote: I visited Michael Reichmann's web site yesterday (not sure about the spelling) wherein he claims that the Canon D30 produces a better image, all

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2001-06-29 Thread Dan Honemann
Right now, I have three film cameras, a bunch of lenses and a Nikon LS30 film scanner. I *don't* have thousands of dollars to spend on a digicam. So I just want to get the best out of the gear I have, and that's why I'm here on this list. :) It's a pivotal time, and it makes buying

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2001-06-29 Thread rafeb
At 07:37 PM 6/29/01 -0400, Dan H. wrote: I figure on spending $10-20k when all is said and done (spaced out over a period of 2-3 years). I'm not opposed to spending $3k of that on a very high quality film scanner, and several thousand for a top-notch SLR and pro lenses. But I have to wonder if

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2001-06-29 Thread Dan Honemann
I visited Michael Reichmann's web site yesterday (not sure about the spelling) wherein he claims that the Canon D30 produces a better image, all around, than a Provia slide, shot on an EOS-1V, and scanned on an Imacon at 3200 dpi. Not sure I believe it, myself, but it is very provocative.

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2001-06-29 Thread Frank Nichols
Based on the advances in RAM technology over the past 10 years I am predicting a 1Giga Pixel camera in the not too distant future (5 years or less). The significance of this camera will be a drastic reduction is the required size of lenses by using software digital zooming - this will be

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2001-06-29 Thread Robert Meier
--- Frank Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on the advances in RAM technology over the past 10 years I am predicting a 1Giga Pixel camera in the not too distant future (5 years or less). The significance of this camera will be a drastic reduction is the required size of lenses by

RE: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-28 Thread rafeb
At 01:54 PM 6/28/01 +0930, Mark T. wrote: Interesting, but couldn't *also* help but notice the page on the Minolta Dimage 7 digital camera. 5.2 Mp, lens equivalent to a 28-200, and US$1499. Those specs numbers are beginning to sound almost interesting, even to a skinflint like me... Oh,

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2001-06-28 Thread Rob Geraghty
rafeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, indeed. I think digital cameras are closing fast on 35 mm format. In another year or two there really won't be any reason left to shoot 35 mm film. Only if the prices also come down. I can't see the point in buying a 3Mpix digicam when I can buy a good

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2001-06-28 Thread Steve Greenbank
: Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera rafeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, indeed. I think digital cameras are closing fast on 35 mm format. In another year or two

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2001-06-28 Thread Lynn Allen
* be under our respective kitchen tables when this discussion hits the List. ;-) Best regards--LRA From: Steve Greenbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:56:19 +0100

Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-28 Thread Steve Greenbank
- Original Message - From: Lynn Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera Steve wrote: A Casio QV3500 + 340 MB microdrive (250 high res jpegs [and you can delete the bad ones

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2001-06-28 Thread Rob Geraghty
Steve wrote: The original poster was talking about using one for web pictures - I'd say he'd be completely mad to use film. If all you ever want is screen resolution I'd agree. But most people want to print things, and that takes more resolution. The average person doesn't understand this;

Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-28 Thread Arthur Entlich
I note that Sony has a new Digital camera which uses a nice little 3 CD-RW disk capable of storing about 150 megs of info, and of course, it is re-writable. The disks are about $5 each here (worth about $1.50, but that's supply and demand, I guess) Still a LOT cheaper than flash memory. The

Re: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-28 Thread Arthur Entlich
Walter Bushell wrote: _ AFAIk the cameras only support 8 bit output. Adjusting brightness color on 24 bit images does result in artifacts, one can up the bit depth for those resolutions to avoid the math problems, but still it's a restricted dmax. Then if we are having problems

RE: filmscanners: Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dimage 7 camera

2001-06-27 Thread Mark T.
Interesting, but couldn't *also* help but notice the page on the Minolta Dimage 7 digital camera. 5.2 Mp, lens equivalent to a 28-200, and US$1499. Those specs numbers are beginning to sound almost interesting, even to a skinflint like me... MarkT From: Shough, Dean Sent: Wednesday, June