Remmember that Sony is the only monitor that supports the Trinitron mask,
which gives you better image clarity than any other shadow mask technology.
- Original Message -
From: Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: Re:
I'm doing some trani scans which are underexposed [how dare I!] and having
a hell
of a time digging out the detail in the shadows. This detail is also
somewhat brown.
I have tried doing multiple passes -8 infact at 2700 dpi.
I also have a tramline problem in these deep shadow areas. Are the
Hello folks
I normally use trani stock but need to do some photography using neg film
[35mm]
and seek your opinion as to which neg films to use through an Acer
Scanwit 2720s.
I have a number of locations to film and will be shooting available
light interiors under fluoro and fill flash,
ShAf Wrote:
You may want to check you mobo's manual with regard to which PCI slots
need share IRQs.
Yes, this has been mentioned on the list a number of times. My MB manual ignores the
topic, I think. Just gives the option of assigning an IRQ to the VGA card, which could
be useful. As
Norman Unsworth wrote:
How do the bad elements in the CCD evidence themselves?
I'm sorry to report my second Minolta Dual Scan II is going to need
replacement as well. Not only does it have a few funky elements in
each color, (more on that later), but today I scanned some neg film
I am very intrigued by the number of people on this list how have color
deficiency. Does anyone know how common this is in the general
population (or even just the male population)?
I also find it interesting that a very color demanding field
(Photography with interest in digital scanning)
Not to be a smart @ss, but how about film?
I don't know that any of the current storage media will either be around
or will survive 20 plus years from now.
I'm unfamiliar with Iomega's optical drives. I know they make mainly
magnetic drives and rebadge some CD-R drives. DVD RAM and it's kin
At 12:42 PM 7/08/01 +0700, Geoffrey wrote:
I normally use trani stock but need to do some photography using neg film
[35mm]
and seek your opinion as to which neg films to use through an Acer
Scanwit 2720s.
I have a number of locations to film and will be shooting available
light interiors under
At 12:37 PM 7/08/01 +0700, you wrote:
I'm doing some trani scans which are underexposed [how dare I!] and having
a hell
of a time digging out the detail in the shadows. This detail is also
somewhat brown.
I have tried doing multiple passes -8 infact at 2700 dpi.
I also have a tramline problem
Pat writes ...
...
Someone had asked about the Sony 420 monitor's ability to adjust color
channels from the front panel. I answered that my 420GS doesn't but I just
noticed that with my new PC, my new video card allows that capability. ...
It is hard to imagine this Sony monitor not
Hersch wrote:
He [Mark] wants 20 years. My 20-year-old slides and negatives have degraded
enough that they need Ed's roc, and are generally not as 'good as new.' I
think the digital resource is more reliable, if proper care and storage,
and regular renewal are carried out.
It needs to be
Excellent post, Bob. I think you covered the bases completely. :-)
Best regards--Lynn Allen
From: Bob Kehl - Kvernstoen, Kehl Assoc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001
This should probably go off list so please direct replies to me personally.
I am quite interested in how others are affected.
I am very intrigued by the number of people on this list how have color
deficiency. Does anyone know how common this is in the general
population (or even just the
At 02:29 AM 7/08/01 -0700, you wrote:
I am very intrigued by the number of people on this list how have color
deficiency. Does anyone know how common this is in the general
population (or even just the male population)?
Quite a few of us, I'll wager.. About 10% of the male population have
Richard wrote:
I archive all my critical stuff (scans and work) onto external 30GIG HD's.
At around £90 a unit I don¹t think you can beat them for reliability and
speed.
An excellent idea, but it needs mentioning that you have to keep magnetic
media far away from other magnets--a radio speaker
shAF wrote:
It is hard to imagine this Sony monitor not having the ability to tweak
the individual guns (... is this some type of consumer model? ...).
AFAICT, my Dell Trinatron monitor does not--it's not upfront, at any rate.
Possibly there's a software tweak that I'm not aware of.
Best
Jim Snyder wrote:
[chop]
you can stand a little bit of image quality loss, use ZIP
[chop]
H - this email list needs an FAQ - or
some pointers to certain image FAQs on the
web now and again.
Image compression is a rather complex mathematical
process that usually requires some 'dumping' of
Here's a tip from Elements K that may address some of the PS memory concerns
I've seen posted here...
The number of History States will affect how Photoshop runs
The History palette can be quite useful, but it can also be a
memory hog. To see how many History States you have, choose
Edit
Hi Bob!
I'm curious, why do you trust MOD more than CDR?
MOD will probably never become standard nor inexpensive.
There are various MOD standards and some of them a older than CDR. All over the world
MOD jukeboxes have been used and are still used to store and archive digital data.
MODs are
Bert wrote:
Ive attached a small HTML doc with some specs.
Not exact, but a guide - if anyone wants to add
formats then do so.
Very good post, Bert, and thank you.
IMO, some of the confusion, vis a vis archiving, is based on lossy vs.
lossless compression. STM the difference is in how it's to
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:01:11 +0100 Mark Edmonds ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Basically, I am looking for a long term (20 years+) storage medium to
archive my scans on. I don't have faith in CDR a
STUFF CUT
Any advice on this matter gratfully received!
Good quality CDR should last a lot
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:52:31 +0200 Florian Rist
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I totally agree, I suppose the best long term back up media are
MODs.
But the continuing existence of suitable drives is the problem there.
Best backup medium is probably binary printed on acid-free paper as
On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:37:58 +0700 GeoffreyJakarta ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
I'm doing some trani scans which are underexposed [how dare I!] and
having a hell
of a time digging out the detail in the shadows. This detail is also
somewhat brown.
I have tried doing multiple passes -8
On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 22:01:28 -0400 Jim Snyder ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
ZIP works by actually packing the data into empty space. As a result,
the
size does not vary as much, but is lossy.
AFAIK Zip and LZW (as found in compressed TIFF) are fundamentally the same
algorithms. Neither are
On Sun, 5 Aug 2001 22:39:35 EDT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
For negatives, I believe it was Ian Lyons who said that calibrating the
SS4000 and SilverFast with an IT-8 slide also had benefits for
negatives. I don't know why. But I can certainly see how information
from an IT-8 slide
On Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:05:45 EDT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Which brings up another point: Why is SilverFast
shipping a three year old IT-8 slide? Aren't they supposed to be
replaced every year to insure their accuracy?
I've not seen this said anywhere before, so long as it is stored
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:15:55 +1000 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rob=20Geraghty?=
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
For the purchase price of Vuescan it might be worth trying with the
SS4000
just to see how much difference calibration really makes?
It occurs to me to wonder how much difference IT8 calibration
Tomasz,
Thank you for your clarification. I am not surprised by your findings.
Do you have any experience with the Umax PowerlookIII?
It has a specified dmax of 3.4 and a full 8x10 transparency hood is
available.
Bob Kehl
- Original Message -
From: Tomasz Zakrzewski [EMAIL
Flo wrote:
On a MOD the data is stored by changing the magnetic orientation of a ferro
magnetic meterial. This will not fade. To change it very high temperatures
and high magnetic fields are needed.
Cautionary note: I have a (ferro)magnetic tape cast-recording of Chicago
that somehow got too
Hersch wrote:
He [Mark] wants 20 years. My 20-year-old slides and negatives have
degraded enough that they need Ed's roc, and are generally not as
'good as new.' I think the digital resource is more reliable, if
proper care and storage, and regular renewal are carried out.
It needs to be
- Original Message -
From: Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
Not to be a smart @ss, but how about film?
I don't know that any of the current storage media
Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am very intrigued by the number of people on this list how have color
deficiency. Does anyone know how common this is in the general
population (or even just the male population)?
I'll have to look that one up. I *think* it's more common in men than
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
In that case, I guess you could say that
the bikini bottom was the ultimate IT-8 calibration tool!
No - the ultimate would have been if she was still wearing it!
Brian Rumary, England
http://freespace.virgin.net/brian.rumary/homepage.htm
Art wrote:
I am very intrigued by the number of people on this list how have color
deficiency.
I thought the same thing. I've looked at the photos of several of these
color deprived photographers, and it's astoundingly good!! Apparently,
this disability can be an asset. :-)
I also find
Rob wrote:
Presumably you meant 14GB. :) Funny I was just reading about DVD-RAM and
DVD-RW last night and they were only talking a max of 4.7GB per side.
Yes, you're right as usual, Rob. It was a case of Numbers Overload for me.
Too many numbers in the same PC World article, none of which I
In a message dated 08/07/2001 12:40:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, not damaged. These sorts of horribleness are revealed when you try and
use a scanner beyond its capabilities. You are exposing behaviour which
would normally be hidden 'below' the black point,
Yes, one of the reasons behind me asking the question. The Minolta software
is fine for simple adjustments but only enables you to preview on small
lo-res scans. I'd much rather work on the full scan in something like
Photopaint (What?! someone who doesn't use Photoshop and actually likes
First off, my thanks for all the replies and the interesting view points. I
was hoping there might be some de-facto standard out there but obviously
not!
I'd just like to answer some suggestions:
1. Use Film
Yes, fine if your film was developed properly in the first place but I have
some
Hi Lynn!
On a MOD the data is stored by changing the magnetic orientation of a
ferro magnetic meterial. This will not fade. To change it very high
temperatures and high magnetic fields are needed.
Cautionary note: I have a (ferro)magnetic tape cast-recording of Chicago
that somehow got
I think the driver software allows adjustment to exposure, color channel by
color channel, and thus provides better correction, especially for
negatives. I don't think the actual hardware output is fixed, the final scan
is performed after you make adjustments in the driver.
Other than color
There was an interesting article in Scientific American magazine six or
eight years ago about the problems of storing digital data. They cited, as
I remember, three challenges: The permanence of the storage medium, the
availability of media-reading hardware, and the availability of software to
i am just about to order the LS-4000 nikon and the best price i could get was
$1695. after all the information from this list and other sources i think
this is the best scanner for both slides and negatives. i presently have an
LS-1000 and think's time to upgrade and like nikon products.
This is probably a stupid question, but how do you do an LZW compression on a
TIFF file? Photoshop doesn't offer TIFF compression as an option, as far as
I know. Is there freeware available? Since a lot of my work involves models
against a solid colored background, it seems like lossless
Could you not combine the scanned black and white separations as
layers in PhotoShop? Don't astronomers do that sort of thing all the
time?
Before CD-R came along, I was advocating people use separations for
Wedding Photos, and other similarly precious images. However, I was
taken to task on
A good question. I can believe people will not be using Tiff
files any more in 10 years. However, for longer than that you can
probably expect that there will be shareware (and commercial) conversion
programs to translate Tiff files to Jpeg5 format, or whatever. You just
have to go with the
Before CD-R came along, I was advocating people use
separations for Wedding Photos, and other similarly precious images.
However, I was taken to task on that on the grounds that reproducing
color images from separations is quite expensive. I have no reason to
doubt that iut is inmappropriate as a
So getting an archival medium is only a third of the problem. What happens
in 10 years when no one uses TIFF files anymore.
Preston Earle
After a certain level of usage it is unlikely that software formats and
even (non-obscure) hardware readers will be impossible to find. There is
too much
Remmember that Sony is the only monitor that supports the Trinitron mask,
which gives you better image clarity than any other shadow mask
technology.
The Mitsubishi Diamondtron is also an aperture grill, essentially the same
as the Trinitron. I think at one point Sony made the tubes for
- Original Message -
From: Lynn Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: filmscanners: OT: Color perception (was: IT8 Calibration (was: etc
Art wrote:
I am very intrigued by the number of people on this list how have color
Although I haven't used it (some members have/do), PNG probably offers the
best compression in a lossless format--according to the chart that Bert
posted. Photoshop *does* offer that. Whether the format will be around in 20
years is another matter. :-)
Best regards--LRA
From: [EMAIL
If you re-save a file PS will automatically save in the format that was
opened.
If you use save as and select TIFF you get the choice of compression
(none,LZW,JPEG,ZIP). Of these JPEG is lossy. None is the standard TIFF. The
other three are legal variations that may not be supported by software
Tony wrote:
Basically, if a sensible black point doesn't
allow a decent scan you are stuffed.
There he goes, beating up on us Scanwitters again! ;-)
Unfortunately, Tony's mostly right. But it *is* possible to suck a little
more light out of a Scanwit by covering the calibration slot with
Tony wrote:
Best backup medium is probably binary printed on acid-free paper as
barcodes. This is well capable of true Dead Sea Scrolls archival longevity,
if suitably stored.
That is probably the most unique solution I've heard all day, and probably
all year. :-)
If one could transcribe the
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 1:45
PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners:
(anti)compression?
This is probably a stupid
question, but how do you do an LZW compression on a TIFF file?
Photoshop
So getting an archival medium is only a third of the problem. What
happens
in 10 years when no one uses TIFF files anymore.
Very good point!
One possible solution would be to keep a version of Photoshop 6, or whatever
application you created your archived images with, on your computer.
Winsor Crosby wrote:
It is not wide spread, but photographers have archived color images
as black and white color separations for years. The longevity of
black and white film is pretty well established.
That's a redundancy that I vaguely knew about, but didn't consider.
Haven't even heard
Bob Kehl wrote:
Do you have any experience with the Umax PowerlookIII?
It has a specified dmax of 3.4 and a full 8x10 transparency hood is
available.
If that's the same scanner as a Umax 34X0, my experience is that it's a bit
cranky, with toy software. I recently returned 2 of them, and traded
My Iiyama is a (Diamondtron) trinitron clone too. You can always tell by the
faint horizontal lines around a third from the top and bottom of the screen.
Steve
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From: Moreno Polloni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:04 PM
Well, my Photoshop 6.0 (on a PC) doesn't offer any compressed TIFF file
formats. When doing a "Save-as" for a 48-bit file, I was given three
choices: TIFF(*.TIF), Ras(*.RAW), and Photoshop(*.PSD,*.PDD). When saving a
24-bit file, I have many more choices including GIF, JPEG, etc., but nothing
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, my Photoshop 6.0 (on a PC) doesn't offer any compressed TIFF
file
formats. When doing a Save-as for a 48-bit file, I was given three
choices: TIFF(*.TIF), Ras(*.RAW), and Photoshop(*.PSD,*.PDD)
Hm, I have many more choices o PS6.0 on a PC. Maybe you
OK, thanks, I found it. The dialog box only appears after you kick off the
save and I didn't take it that far when I was doing my testing. I've seen
the dialog box before and always ignored the LZW checkbox as I didn't thing
that it was lossless and would offer me any thing. My question wasn't
In 000201c11f04$9a906890$0208d63f@zibzib, Karl Schulmeisters wrote:
Remmember that Sony is the only monitor that supports the Trinitron mask,
which gives you better image clarity than any other shadow mask technology.
I don't think this is still true. I believe that Sony's patents on this
Norman Unsworth wrote:
How do the bad elements in the CCD evidence themselves?
Art replied:
snip
However, individual pixels or CCD elements can also be defective or
miscalibrated. The best way I have found to check for these is to use a
slide with areas of darker colors,
Does anyone know if the $45US upgrade includes both SilverFast Ai and HDR?
Or do we have to spend $45 for each, for a total of $90? SilverFast isn't
responding to my e-mails and they aren't answering my questions at their
forum site.
I think they're busy with their meltdown over serial
i am just about to order the LS-4000 nikon and the best price i could get was
$1695. after all the information from this list and other sources i think
this is the best scanner for both slides and negatives. i presently have an
LS-1000 and think's time to upgrade and like nikon products. anyone
You might try doing a search at cnet.com for the best price. I'd heard on
this list that ecost.com had the best price for a SS120, but when I bought
mine I found that pagecomputer.com beat them by a few dollars. Also, ecost
claimed they gave free shipping, but if you read the fine print, they
Roger,
Go to PS6
Edit-preferences-saving files and tick enable advanced features. That will give
you the extra Tiff file options.
Geoff
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From:
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:44
AM
Subject: Re:
After the Save-as command in PS, you should get the attached screen giving
you the option of LZW compression.
Maris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: (anti)compression?
Well, my
Winsor Crosby asked
Could you not combine the scanned black and white separations as
layers in PhotoShop?
Yep. See this interesting example: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/
Peter Marquis-Kyle
Lynn Allen penned:
Although I haven't used it (some members have/do), PNG probably offers the
best compression in a lossless format--according to the chart that Bert
posted. Photoshop *does* offer that. Whether the format will be around in 20
years is another matter. :-)
The classic
What CDRs would be the good quality ones?
Thanks!
Andrew Robinson
Tony Sleep wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:01:11 +0100 Mark Edmonds ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Basically, I am looking for a long term (20 years+) storage medium to
archive my scans on. I don't have faith in CDR a
For those of you that are hoping to sell your images all including the
colour blind you may like to try the downloads here:
http://vischeck.com/showme.shtml
I have not tried any of them, but the normal and the red/green color deficit
(deuteranopia) examples sure look the same to me. (I checked
In a message dated 8/7/2001 4:37:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Roger,
Go to PS6 Edit-preferences-saving files and tick enable advanced
features. That will give you the extra Tiff file options.
Geoff
Thanks, Geoff, and to all the others who gave me hints. I have
have just come across the following that may be of some use to people here.
Colour FAQ
http://www.inforamp.net/~poynton/ColorFAQ.html
Gamma FAQ
http://www.inforamp.net/~poynton/GammaFAQ.html
Steve
Just to add something that might make your suggestion clearer. After
selecting the save as, one will be presented with the file format options
as Roger suggests. It is only after you select the TIFF option for your
file format that the dialog box you are referring to appears. You first
have to
Mitsui has been recommended by Plextor and others. Fuji is on the Plextor
list as well and I have had good results with them.
Maris
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From: Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best
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