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From: "Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT more copyright questions
I was interested to read all this stuff on copyright as I have a problem
myself and wondered if anyone can help.
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From: "Laurie Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: OT more copyright questions
Yet another idiot. this is a SCANNING group. If you must discuss coptright
then go soewhere else to do it
if I may something good about Ed? He is skilled programmer and I have no
doubt he knows a lot about scanning. Now, what might be his reason to stay
around here? To learn about scanning? Probably not. He makes his living out
of Vuescan/vueprint and any input from the users is of high interest
On 21/3/01 9:35 pm, "Laurie Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, it all depends on a number of factors. The only universal
statment that one can make as an absolute is that you do not have the right
to "sell images of ANYTHING you photograph." If the sculptures are on
private
you don't have to be so rude, it was just a question, even if this isn;t the
place to send it. Your parents certainly knew what they were doing when
they named you DICK.
Spencer's wife
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dicky
Sent:
At 22:45 21/03/2001 -0700, you wrote:
My Point? We had a discussion on this forum last fall, and I just wanted
to remind everyone... we are scanning film... same rules apply in this
game as in the darkroon prints game... the film processing is the key to
everything that happens afterward... if
dicky...say no more
At 08:32 22/03/2001 +, you wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Laurie Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: OT more copyright questions
Yet another idiot. this is a SCANNING group. If
Dave Nelson wrote:
Actually, the copyright symbol is available in most fonts. In Photoshop,
add test as you normally do, then when you need the (copyright sysmbol,
incase it didn't come through), Hold down the alt and type 0169 on the
number pad, assuming your using Windows. MAC users,
Does anyone know about UK copyright regarding buildings/land marks. I've
heard that the Lloyds Building is copyrighted and you are not allowed to
sell photographs of it. Although I've been unable to find any information
which tells me this?
I've also heard recently of a Formula One web site
Whoa, ease off on the flaming, Dicky. It's obvious that this is a diverse
group with diverse interests and a good bit of intelligence--and since when
*isn't* copyrighting a legitimate concern for photographers and others,
film-scanners all?
Wassamatter--your "delete" key broken?
--LRA
That's what I thought as well and the minilab I used is one that (to the
naked eye) runs a clean process... however, what I noticed was that the grain
pattern in large areas of uniform density was much tighter and smoother in the
film from the custom lab...
Mike M.
Roman Kielich wrote:
At
I propose that we return to using this forum for filmscanners and stop
flaming people.
| i agree about ed. on top of that he is almost rude if you are not good
with
| software and e-mail him personally with questions. vuescan is a
difficult
| programs with daily updates and i wish i had
Richard... This is no place for flame wars... The thing I like about this group
(and it is the only one I am on for this reason) is that the regular
participants seem to be possessed of a modicum of good manners and willingness
to help others out who may not be as experienced as some of the rest
BTW, yesterday scanning news groups didn't carry any of Ed's replies. So,
maybe he's out of town?
Or maybe he working on version 8? ;-)
I am sorry to see him go and hope he returns to filmscanners soon. I think
he contributed a lot to this group and hopefully he learned from us. I know
Julie... I am going to risk Dickie's wrath and reply... I don't know the
anything about U.K. law... however, the distinction that needs to made here is
the difference between copyright (which applies to an original work of art,
literature, film, photos, etc) and the rights to use images of a
From: Roman Kielich® [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, maybe he's out of town?
I received this message from Ed today:
In a message dated 3/21/2001 4:23:16 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You may also refer to the message and webpage I provided yesterday about
grain removal:
I'm quite busy right now
My main area of concern (like Lynn Allen) is in the related area of
grain-aliasing problems. I think most 2720 dpi users will have
encountered
problematic negatives (OK Lynn - and *slides* as well!) where the aliasing
effect becomes horribly obvious. Whereas blurring techniques and
- Original Message -
From: "Lynn Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT more copyright questions
Look my dear.
There are several news groupd totally dedicated to copyright, and that is
where these clod
- Original Message -
From: "Arthur Entlich" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT:copyright symbol
Entlich by name and entlich by nature I see.
For you squire there is no excuse, so just look in a mirror and say
- Original Message -
From: "Sumtingwong" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: OT more copyright questions
Piss of you clown
Richard Corbett
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT more copyright questions
Mr Moore
Let me make myself clear to you, and any others with a like minded
inclination.
I did not join this
on 3/22/01 9:07 AM, Michael Moore at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard... This is no place for flame wars... The thing I like about this
group
(and it is the only one I am on for this reason) is that the regular
participants seem to be possessed of a modicum of good manners and willingness
- Original Message -
From: "Cooke, Julie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:34 AM
Subject: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright Issues
Julis my deargo fuck yourself, and do it quite speedly so that we can be
rid of youand all like you.
Jim,
Don't worry too much, 'Dicky' has assured us that he is going
to fix this right up.
-JimD
At 10:55 AM 3/22/01 -0500, Jim Snyder wrote:
on 3/22/01 9:07 AM, Michael Moore at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard... This is no place for flame wars... The thing I like about this
group
(and it
Jim Snyder,
does that mean we should join a news group for flatbed
scanners, one for film scanners, one for monitors, one for photoshop
problems and so on. Your 140 mesages per day would soon become 500
odd.
I don't think people were/are using the "Subject" line of the
e-mail
In this case, my comment restated below applies:
If it is a public sculpture on public property ( like in
a municipal museum or gallery, you would need to get permission
from the municipality or the public facility where it is located.
I would add that: (a) this is a
Mr., Moderator,
I think you should boot this guy from the group. He is rude, has NO ethics
and a raciest to boot.
Thank you
Dale
- Original Message -
From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK
Has Ed left this list? I hope not. But, please, think for a moment before
you follow Art Entlich's lead in condemning Ed.
I don't know Ed Hamrick and I don't pretend to speak for him. But for the
last two years, I have read every message with Vuescan in the title or body
on this list. I have
Well, I for one, very much appreciated the Jay Maisel link. And, don't
forget if anyone is not interested, it is the work of a moment to hit the
delete key.
I find that lists that stick strictly on topic generally die from lack of
air. You need to expand the horizon once in a while to keep the
Dale Gail wrote:
Mr., Moderator,
I think you should boot this guy from the group. He is rude, has NO ethics
and a raciest to boot.
Thank you
Dale
- Original Message -
From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:31 AM
Subject: Re:
Larry: Please don't fall into Dicky's trap If all we want is absolute
technical info on our scanners, then we should read the manuals... I have
stayed on here because of you and Lynn and others who have things to say
that may only be peripheral to the act of scanning but quite germane to my
does that mean we should join a news group for flatbed
scanners, one for film scanners, one for monitors, one for photoshop
problems and so on. Your 140 mesages per day would soon become 500
odd.
Especially when you include parallel versions of all the
discussions like this one,
Bob,
Extremely well put, and 100% on the mark. Thanks for stating my feelings
in such a succinct fashion.
Cliff Ober
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Leonard
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Jim wrote:
clip there have been days in the past few weeks
where the peripheral subjects donated over 140 messages a day to my in box,
and few if any dealt directly with scanning. Ed left at about that time, and
may have felt the same frustration at the volume of off-topic messages as I
did. It
By the way, my ss4k initialization sequence is broken - it
was cycling interminably, so I tried a suggestion from Polaroid
techs quoted on the ss4k list pushed my slide holder through
it a few times with the power off, and now rather than cycling,
its initialization hangup is to run
I guess I have to agree with these sentiments. I use a SS4000 and an Epson
1640 SU Photo mostly for astrophotos which means I do raw scans and process
in PS and/or PW. Since Polaroid appears to have stopped developing software
for the SS4000, my only option was Silverfast. To go this route, it
No I would rather do in the open rather than behind the rats back.
Thank you
Dale
FYI...
Requests such as this should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Regards,
Joe Daugirdas
on 3/22/01 11:46 AM, Chris McBrien at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim Snyder,
does that mean we should join a news group for flatbed
scanners, one for film scanners, one for monitors, one for photoshop
problems and so on. Your 140 mesages per day would soon become 500
odd.
I don't think
Bob,
Very nicely said..
Dale
- Original Message -
From: "Bob Leonard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: filmscanners: Vuescan - Ed Hamrick - Thanks
Has Ed left this list? I hope not. But, please, think for a moment
before
you
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Richard wrote:
If I were to take a series of photographs of sculptures around my local town
and have them printed them up as postcards to sell, would I have to get
permission from either the sculptor or the governing body who commissioned
the sculptures in order to do
I don't know Ed Hamrick
For what it's worth, I have worked with Ed as a programmer in
another field, and can attest that he is one of the nicest,
most generous-spirited people who you could hope to meet in
person as well as on the net, as well as one of the best
programmers.
I use
Oh dear, we are starting to degenerate into nasty
comments aren't we? One of the values of good lists like this one is their
interesting and diverse topics, not always relating directly to filmscanning but
still relevant for a working or enthusiastphotographer/scanner. All
your comments are
I absolutely second the suggestion, this list can do without this person.
Geoff Murray
www.geoffmurray.com
Mr., Moderator,
I think you should boot this guy from the group. He is rude, has NO
ethics
and a raciest to boot.
Thank you
Dale
- Original Message -
From: "Dicky"
Frank,
Polaroid has NOT stopped developing software for the SS4000. Within the next
30 days we will be shipping the Sprintscan120 with a new version of Insight,
v5.0, with more updates to come.
David Hemingway
Polaroid Corporation
-Original Message-
From: Frank Parrotta [mailto:[EMAIL
- Original Message -
From: "Laurie Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: OT more copyright questions
Mr Solomon
Will you kindly stick your views on property issues right up your prattish
arse.
This group is
- Original Message -
From: "Dale Gail" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What you think is totally irrelevent.
It's what you say that matters and so far I have heard noting from you on
scanning so kindly keep your opinions on other subjects to yourself and by
the way, you would
- Original Message -
From: "Dale Gail" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT:copyright symbol
I think you should move on to another group.. Find one called raciest, you
would fit great. I'm from German decent
I'll second that one.
At 12:55 PM 03/22/2001 -0500, you wrote:
Mr., Moderator,
I think you should boot this guy from the group. He is rude, has NO
ethics
and a raciest to boot.
Thank you
Dale
- Original Message -
From: Dicky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday,
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Ross" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:19 PM
Subject: filmscanners: OT Nikon 4k ss4k
At last an on topic message.
Nikon are haveing development problems with their software.
I would suggest that this is a
On Thursday, March 22, Bob Leonard wrote:
Has Ed left this list? I hope not.
Rhetorical?
I have watched as Ed.
Your perspective has been distorted if you agree with Entlich's
opinion
""Ed" and "Entlich", is this a clue that you may have a degree of bias? IMO
both have made
I am doing this in the public forum, because I want it witnessed.
I am formally requesting from the list owner, Tony Sleep, that "Dicky"
Richard Corbett be permanently removed from this list. I have never, in
the years I have been on this list made such a request, in spite of
considerably
Yes, and he posts far too many Off Topic messages.
-Original Message-
From: Hersch Nitikman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright" Issues for the
What I think we must have here is a 15-year-old who's heroes are Bevis and
Butthead. There's no chance that this could be a rational adult. Shows
absolutely no sign of it. Purely juvenile.
I was raised out in the country, and don't take a back-seat to anyone when
it comes to cursing and blue
Richard wrote:
Mr Solomon
[abuse snipped]
Yours in total animosity.
Richard, if you wish to indulge in personal abuse, please do it off the
list. I don't think anyone else wants to read this kind of thing.
Rob
Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wordweb.com
Bill Ross wrote:
By the way, my ss4k initialization sequence is broken - it
was cycling interminably, so I tried a suggestion from Polaroid
techs quoted on the ss4k list pushed my slide holder through
it a few times with the power off, and now rather than cycling,
its initialization
At the risk of being redundantly repetitious--
SCR*W you, Dick.
- Original Message -
From: "Lynn Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: I Apologize
BTW, how do you get those "neat" little Navajo patterns at
Hard to believe this little tyke can read, even if he does shave. I wouldn't
have thought he was out of first form.
--LRA
--Original Message--
From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 22, 2001 10:13:49 PM GMT
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT Nikon 4k ss4k
-
Cliff Ober wrote:
Bob,
Extremely well put, and 100% on the mark. Thanks for stating my feelings
in such a succinct fashion.
Cliff Ober
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Leonard
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:10 PM
I REALLY hate to get back into this, because I'm not a lawyer (my brother
and daughter are), BUT:
Taking pictures with flash in a public museum is prohibited. That makes
sense, because the extra-bright light of a flashbulb or strobe will damage
the paintings. It will NOT damage a sculpture on
Maybe he can read but he certainly can't spell. I find it interesting that
until two days ago I never heard of him; and in the last two days we have
heard all kinds of vile, rude, abusive comments about people who wrote about
OT subjects from him but not a substantive word until this latest post
And quite frankly neither do I; but I refuse to indulge him or in his temper
tantrums so I will just ignore his posts and continue to do whatever it was
that I was going to do or say as if he did not exist. I am sure that we all
ignore him until Tony throws him off the list, he will disappear of
Art is right. Dicky should not be on this list anymore.
Bill
You must be all of 10 or mentally retarded.
Dale
- Original Message -
From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: RE: OT UK Copyright" Issues for the moderator"
What you think is totally irrelevent.
It's
Agree with all this although there is no way to find out about the changes
from one version to another from the download.
The txt file that comes with each version contains a list of what the
changes are from version to version.
Dale
Yes, please don't apologize because some creep spews forth obscenities and
makes idle threats to the whole group. Sheesh! Why bow down to the likes of
that THING!
Frank Paris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 3/14/01 4:00 PM, Tony Sleep at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:08:20 +0100 Henk de Jong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I'm sure we're all using at least 1280X1024...
No, don't be too shure about that: I am working at 1024x768 on a 17" monitor
;-)
Huh. I'm currently
Oh, well. At least this is good for a laugh.
Frank Paris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dicky
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Certainly it took some effort to persuade him to show a side-by-side
comparison of a 1x and 16x sample.
When he finally gave in it became obvious that their was a substantial
tonal contrast difference between the two samples with the 16x sample
looking
Larry,
Thanks for the links. Interesting discussion.
--Chris
-Original Message-
From: Larry Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:18 PM
Subject: filmscanners: OT - More about Jay Maisel
Here are two of the links we came
on 3/22/01 8:25 PM, Laurie Solomon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe he can read but he certainly can't spell. I find it interesting that
until two days ago I never heard of him; and in the last two days we have
heard all kinds of vile, rude, abusive comments about people who wrote about
OT
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:43:55 + Richard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
If I were to take a series of photographs of sculptures around my local town
and have them printed them up as postcards to sell, would I have to get
permission from either the sculptor or the governing body who
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:35:24 -0500 (EST) Lynn Allen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
"Which
film scanner would be best for 110 film?", something I haven't actually seen
addressed here, so far.
Point One, it would need to be a fairly hi-res scanner.
Anything more than ~2700ppi is likely to be
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:32:29 EST ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
vuescan is a difficult
programs with daily updates and i wish i had gotten silverfast. joanna
Er... I think you should try Silverfast first, if you are bothered by
'difficult' :-)
Regards
Tony Sleep
http://www.halftone.co.uk -
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:17:56 +0200 (EET) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hugo_G=E4vert?=
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I agree totally with what Art just wrote. It would be
totally different thing if did offer the software free to us. He is, after
all making a good money from the product.
But I also hope
Agree with all this although there is no way to find out about the changes
from one version to another from the download.
The txt file that comes with each version contains a list of what the
changes are from version to version.
Dale
And the release notes are also available on the website
What I am saying is not to be construed as disagreeing with or objecting to
anything you have said. It is merely meant as a clarification of one small
point respecting your comment: "Perhaps OT messages could be revised in the
subject title -- instead of reading "Re: filmscanner ."." I
Years ago, I was on a list when a very abusive individual joined in and
posted rude remarks periodically. The more posts there were in reponse to
this individual, the more abusive his/her subsequent posts were.
Finally, everyone decided just to ignore the posts. Eventually this
individual
Toward this end I've put little 'Dicky' in my email trash filter.
If I've played my cards right, I hope never to lay eyes again
on one of his messages.
-Jim
At 10:17 PM 3/22/01 -0600, Stan Schwartz wrote:
Years ago, I was on a list when a very abusive individual joined in and
posted rude remarks
Tony,
can't speak for the UK or for Europe for that matter; but in the US, some
artwork is considered to be in the public domain because they are historic
artifacts which were created prior to any copyright laws or under older
copyright laws which had time limitations on ownership of the
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