Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-17 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Jack Phipps" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you do a scan using the Nikon interface do you have the "CleanImage" (Nikon's old name for Digital ICE) in the "Mode: On (Sharpen)" or "Mode: On (Normal)"? The mode Nikon calls "Mode: On (Normal)" actually blurs the image slightly. You should run in

RE: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread markthom
Thanks for the examples, Henry. I agree that Ed should separate the filters - I have a non-IR scanner, and am not a user of Vuescan yet, but this function would probably tip me into the camp. But ONLY if it doesn't soften my image as much as your samples indicate.. Mark T. At 06:02 PM

Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread Rob Geraghty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But ONLY if [vuescan] doesn't soften my image as much as your samples indicate.. I think most of the softening is the dust removal algorithms at higher settings, but it's hard to know. Only separating the features would make it possible to tell. Rob

Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread Henry Richardson
From: "Rob Geraghty" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think most of the softening is the dust removal algorithms at higher settings, but it's hard to know. Only separating the features would make it possible to tell. If you look at the first example on my page you will see that it was scanned with version

Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread Bob Shomler
But ONLY if [vuescan] doesn't soften my image as much as your samples indicate.. I think most of the softening is the dust removal algorithms at higher settings, but it's hard to know. Only separating the features would make it possible to tell. Rob One could go back and try dust removal

Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread Henry Richardson
From: Bob Shomler [EMAIL PROTECTED] One could go back and try dust removal using Vuescan 6.5 (or some release before 6.6, which is when the film grain reduction was added to vuescan). Again, I refer you to this page I set up that does just what you suggest:

RE: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread shAf
Bob writes ... But ONLY if [vuescan] doesn't soften my image as much as your samples indicate.. I think most of the softening is the dust removal algorithms at higher settings, but it's hard to know. Only separating the features would make it possible to tell. Rob One could go

Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread John Matturri
Related: why in general does Ice-based dust removal soften the image. The purpose of the IR channel is to identify the particular spots that are dust / scratches. Shouldn't the software only affect those areas leaving the rest of the image alone and sharp? John M.

RE: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread shAf
John Matturri writes ... Related: why in general does Ice-based dust removal soften the image. The purpose of the IR channel is to identify the particular spots that are dust / scratches. Shouldn't the software only affect those areas leaving the rest of the image alone and sharp?

RE: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread Jack Phipps
- From: John Matturri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan Related: why in general does Ice-based dust removal soften the image. The purpose of the IR channel is to identify the partic

Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Bob Shomler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One could go back and try dust removal using Vuescan 6.5 (or some release before 6.6, which is when the film grain reduction was added to vuescan). I still have several versions prior to 6.6. I'll see if I can give it a go. Rob

Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread Rob Geraghty
"John Matturri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Related: why in general does Ice-based dust removal soften the image. The purpose of the IR channel is to identify the particular spots that are dust / scratches. Shouldn't the software only affect those areas leaving the rest of the image alone and

Re: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Jack Phipps" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digital ICE from Applied Science Fiction should not soften the image. Jack, are you talking about the current version of ICE, or the version implemented on the Nikon LS30, LS2000 and Minolta Scan Elite? If you're talking about the new version we'll have to

RE: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-16 Thread Jack Phipps
When you do a scan using the Nikon interface do you have the "CleanImage" (Nikon's old name for Digital ICE) in the "Mode: On (Sharpen)" or "Mode: On (Normal)"? The mode Nikon calls "Mode: On (Normal)" actually blurs the image slightly. You should run in "Mode: On (Sharpen)". This should solve

filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-15 Thread Henry Richardson
Has anyone that has a scanner with GEM and ROC compared their results with Ed Hamrick's recently added features in Vuescan that reduce grain and restore color? How do they compare? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

RE: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-15 Thread shAf
Henry writes ... Has anyone that has a scanner with GEM and ROC compared their results with Ed Hamrick's recently added features in Vuescan that reduce grain and restore color? How do they compare? I agree we need someone to make a ^direct^ comparison. However, I was initially

RE: filmscanners: GEM, ROC compared to Vuescan

2001-02-15 Thread Henry Richardson
From: "shAf" [EMAIL PROTECTED] My 1st experience with Ed's "scrub" was disappointing with respect to edges ... it wasn't like a "gaussian blur", but more like a "median" filter. I agree. It seems to me that the grain reduction does soften the image. I showed that on a webpage that I sent to