[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]

2008-02-26 Thread Arthur Entlich
Hi Don,

As I have emailed privately to you, I would also like to state publicly
that I really appreciate the time and effort you put into scanning and
photographing the brush from its many angles.  Very helpful information,
and admittedly, not how I had conceptualized the positioning and design
in my mind's eye from the word descriptions.

I will have to try to come up with some design that mimics the main
point of the Polaroid design.

I will also try to find out if any brushes are still to be had.  My
email to David Hemmingway hasn't yet been replied to, but that email
address was not current, so he may no longer be accessing that address.

Thanks again,

Art

Don Denburg wrote:

Art -

I have lurked in this group for years and have always appreciated your posts. 
I have
taken a series of shots of the brush assembly and instructions and placed
them in a PDF of about 1 MB. I will send them to you directly, and to anyone
else who is interested--unless there is someplace that I can upload them
for general viewing.

The basic instructions are to attach the brush to only the slide carrier, shut 
off the scanner,
and then push the carrier all the way through three times.

Don

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Sounds good.  I think I will try the pipe cleaner approach without the
carrier, to make sure I don't disrupt anything.  I can see the area the
carrier goes through around that fin or groove, and I also see some
insulated wires which are probably the connections to the sensor that
needs cleaning, so I will try to clean in that area with a pipe cleaner
or something similar.

Thanks,

Art

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Yes, the camera I have was bought for another purpose and I didn't
care that its macro capability is poor.

What comes to mind is a long pipe cleaner that fits well in the
channel. All you need to do is drop the front door and you can see
the channel quite clearly. Choose the appropriately-sized pipe
cleaner and go to it.













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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]

2008-02-26 Thread Tony Sleep
Don's PDF showing the brush and instructions for use are now at
http://tonysleep.co.uk/file-area/polaroid-4000-brush

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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]

2008-02-25 Thread Arthur Entlich
Sounds good.  I think I will try the pipe cleaner approach without the
carrier, to make sure I don't disrupt anything.  I can see the area the
carrier goes through around that fin or groove, and I also see some
insulated wires which are probably the connections to the sensor that
needs cleaning, so I will try to clean in that area with a pipe cleaner
or something similar.

Thanks,

Art

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, the camera I have was bought for another purpose and I didn't
care that its macro capability is poor.

What comes to mind is a long pipe cleaner that fits well in the
channel. All you need to do is drop the front door and you can see
the channel quite clearly. Choose the appropriately-sized pipe
cleaner and go to it.






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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]

2008-02-25 Thread Don Denburg
Art -

I have lurked in this group for years and have always appreciated your posts. I 
have
taken a series of shots of the brush assembly and instructions and placed
them in a PDF of about 1 MB. I will send them to you directly, and to anyone
else who is interested--unless there is someplace that I can upload them
for general viewing.

The basic instructions are to attach the brush to only the slide carrier, shut 
off the scanner,
and then push the carrier all the way through three times.

Don

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From: Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:09 AM
Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]


Sounds good.  I think I will try the pipe cleaner approach without the
carrier, to make sure I don't disrupt anything.  I can see the area the
carrier goes through around that fin or groove, and I also see some
insulated wires which are probably the connections to the sensor that
needs cleaning, so I will try to clean in that area with a pipe cleaner
or something similar.

Thanks,

Art

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, the camera I have was bought for another purpose and I didn't
care that its macro capability is poor.

What comes to mind is a long pipe cleaner that fits well in the
channel. All you need to do is drop the front door and you can see
the channel quite clearly. Choose the appropriately-sized pipe
cleaner and go to it.







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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]

2008-02-25 Thread Tony Sleep
On 25/02/2008 Don Denburg wrote:
 I will send them to you directly, and to anyone
 else who is interested--unless there is someplace that I can upload
 them
 for general viewing.

If you want to email them to me I'll park them on a webpage.

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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]

2008-02-24 Thread
Yes, the camera I have was bought for another purpose and I didn't
care that its macro capability is poor.

What comes to mind is a long pipe cleaner that fits well in the
channel. All you need to do is drop the front door and you can see
the channel quite clearly. Choose the appropriately-sized pipe
cleaner and go to it.

---

Thank you for taking the time and going through the frustration of
attempting to photograph the brush.

My main concern is to not design something which is too stiff, too
large or otherwise improperly proportioned which could damage another
part of the scanner while trying to clean the area, or making
something which falls off halfway through, and requires the scanner
to be disassembled.

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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]

2008-02-21 Thread
After fussing around for the better part of an hour trying to take
decent photos of a black bit of plastic stuck onto a black slide
carrier, all the while trying to show the alignment of the brush
bristles with the fin, which is far enough away that it is out of
focus, I gave it up as a bad job.

It is important to focus on the *objective* instead of the
*implementation*. The objective is to clean the sides and bottom of
the left-hand channel of the scanner -- the channel the fin rides in.

Remember, the initial query was what bit of the scanner needed
attention with a brush. Now you know what part is cleaned by the
brush from Polaroid.

---

Thank  you for the word description which helps, but as they say, a
picture is worth 1000 words, or whatever...

I look forward to seeing the images.



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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]

2008-02-20 Thread Arthur Entlich
Thank  you for the word description which helps, but as they say, a
picture is worth 1000 words, or whatever...

I look forward to seeing the images.

Thanks again,

Art

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No, the brush does not surround the fin, but is placed in front of
the fin, occupying the same channel as the fin. Think of a snowplow
blade in front of the truck, this is a brush in front of the slide
carrier and in line with the fin. The bristles sweep the two sides
and bottom of the channel that the fin rides in.

I'll take some photos tomorrow and post them on my web site, and
report the URL here.




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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000]

2008-02-19 Thread
No, the brush does not surround the fin, but is placed in front of
the fin, occupying the same channel as the fin. Think of a snowplow
blade in front of the truck, this is a brush in front of the slide
carrier and in line with the fin. The bristles sweep the two sides
and bottom of the channel that the fin rides in.

I'll take some photos tomorrow and post them on my web site, and
report the URL here.


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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000

2008-02-18 Thread Tony Sleep
On 18/02/2008 Arthur Entlich wrote:
 A scanner question... does anyone know if there is still a source for
 the little dust brush Polaroid designed for their 4000 series
 scanners,
 or is there somewhere I can see what it looked like so I might be able
 to fashion one?

I don't know, but I need one too I think. The 4000 seems to mistake the
neg holder for the slide holder rather more often than it used to - about
half the time now. Is that a symptom?
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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000

2008-02-18 Thread Arthur Entlich
Gee, maybe I'll need to go into 3rd party production on those brushes.
Yeah, the symptoms are assorted irregularities with the film/slide
holders, including the unit not acknowledging the holder, interpreting
the wrong holder, giving a false bumped holder error, and a few more.

Now that I know there are several people experiencing the same problems,
I will try to see if I can find a source or if Polaroid still has
anything going.

Art

Tony Sleep wrote:

On 18/02/2008 Arthur Entlich wrote:


A scanner question... does anyone know if there is still a source for
the little dust brush Polaroid designed for their 4000 series
scanners,
or is there somewhere I can see what it looked like so I might be able
to fashion one?



I don't know, but I need one too I think. The 4000 seems to mistake the
neg holder for the slide holder rather more often than it used to - about
half the time now. Is that a symptom?
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Regards

Tony Sleep
http://tonysleep.co.uk






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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000

2008-02-18 Thread Tony Sleep
On 18/02/2008 Arthur Entlich wrote:
 Now that I know there are several people experiencing the same
 problems,
 I will try to see if I can find a source or if Polaroid still has
 anything going.

Info posted to this list a long time back indicates it's part number
CPS546 and available on request from Polaroid Tech support on 800-432-5355

800 numbers aren't do-able from UK so I never did.
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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000

2008-02-18 Thread James L. Sims
Didn't Microtek make these scanners for Polaroid?  If that's the case,
might try them.

Jim

Tony Sleep wrote:
 On 18/02/2008 Arthur Entlich wrote:

 A scanner question... does anyone know if there is still a source for
 the little dust brush Polaroid designed for their 4000 series
 scanners,
 or is there somewhere I can see what it looked like so I might be able
 to fashion one?


 I don't know, but I need one too I think. The 4000 seems to mistake the
 neg holder for the slide holder rather more often than it used to - about
 half the time now. Is that a symptom?
 --
 Regards

 Tony Sleep
 http://tonysleep.co.uk






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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000

2008-02-18 Thread Tony Sleep
On 18/02/2008 James L. Sims wrote:
 Didn't Microtek make these scanners for Polaroid?  If that's the case,
 might try them.
Yes, they did, the Artixscan 4000 was their version. Both built on the
same production line, but the Polaroids had tighter component spec
selection according to Polaroid (who specced it and commissioned the
design from M'tek. Polaroid later rather regretted the co-licensing deal
they did with M'tek to keep costs down, as they sold far more '4000's than
they expected.

I may just pop the lid off mine and see if a sable brush or DustOff can help.
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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000

2008-02-18 Thread
I have one of the brushes for my SS4000, and I just now looked at it
to see what it does. It rides/cleans the channel that the LEFT side
of the slide carrier rides in. If you look at the bottom of the slide
carrier you will see the left side has a thin fin as contrasted to
the wide flat surface on the right side (the side with the gear
teeth).

The brush is a spiral pipe cleaner brush that cleans the channel
the thin fin goes in. Because the brush is tubular, and its long axis
is aligned with the length of the fin, I can't tell if it is cleaning
the bottom, left, or right side of the channel the fin rides in. I
suspect it cleans both sides, but that's just a guess.

The centerline of the brush is aligned with the bottom of the fin,
and the brush is about 1/8 diameter.

HTH



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[filmscanners] Re: Dust brush for Polaroid 4000

2008-02-18 Thread Arthur Entlich
I'll take a run with this.  I've been in contact with David Hemmingway a
while back, and he referred me to someone at Polaroid, who never got
back to me.  Now that there seems to be a demand for these brushed, I'll
do some research and see if I can track them down.  I also thought of
Microtek, but I have a feeling them may be less responsive than
Polaroid, even if Polaroid is basically gone ;-)

I'll keep people informed of what I discover.

Art

Tony Sleep wrote:

On 18/02/2008 Arthur Entlich wrote:


Now that I know there are several people experiencing the same
problems,
I will try to see if I can find a source or if Polaroid still has
anything going.



Info posted to this list a long time back indicates it's part number
CPS546 and available on request from Polaroid Tech support on 800-432-5355

800 numbers aren't do-able from UK so I never did.
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Tony Sleep
http://tonysleep.co.uk




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