[filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

2008-02-11 Thread Tony Sleep
On 11/02/2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 USB2 is just as
 robust if not more so than Firewire; it was USB 1.1 which was not as
 robust
 as Firewire.

Yup, nothing wrong with USB2 (so long as it's not plugged and unplugged
too many times). I have lots of USB and no FW in use, never had an issue.
But somewhere I read that Firewire-SCSI adapters were an easier and
simpler engineering prospect, and potentially less prone to driver issues
than USB2-SCSI, because FW and SCSI were releated protocols. That's not
to say there are problems with USB2-SCSI in practice, of course.

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[filmscanners] RE: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

2008-02-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tony,

You may be correct about film scanners using a SCSI-2 interface; but I
believe that my Minolta Dimage Scan Multi (the original version) was SCSI-1.
At any rate, I noted that the specs say that the converter/adapter supported
only a SCSI-2 interface just in case there were film scanners that used a
different interface or people who might be thinking about connecting some
other SCSI device to the adapter or to the daisy chain.

There were and are still firewire - SCSI converter/adapters on the market;
and evidently were - if not still are - USB2 - SCSI converter/adapters as
well as USB 1.1 - SCSI converter/adapters on the market.  USB2 is just as
robust if not more so than Firewire; it was USB 1.1 which was not as robust
as Firewire.  But now, Firewire, under its various names, comes in a number
of different flavors and speed capacities.  The original spec was a 400; a
new spec was introduced that was 800 or double the capacity. Firewire is
used by many digital cameras as their connection to the computer of choice,
although there are now a wide variety of sizes, shapes, and number of pins -
4 pin and 6 pin configuration connectors in use.

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 Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

 On 11/02/2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Evidently, this adapter/converter still is on the market; but it
  works only
  with SCSI-2 from what I have been able to determine.

 As far as I know, all filmscanners that appeared with SCSI interfaces
 used
 SCSI2 standard, even though they only achieved SCSI1 speeds 1-3MB/sec
 across the bus.

 I'm not a Mac person, but I thought there were Firewire-SCSI
 converters
 too, and that was a more robust solution than USB-SCSI because FW and
 SCSI are more closely related. Or have the latest Mac's dumped Firewire
 too?

 Leopard seems to have been Apple's Vista!

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 Tony Sleep
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[filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

2008-02-11 Thread Tony Sleep
On 11/02/2008 Stan Schwartz wrote:
 I don't know if the SS4000 is Scsi-1 or SCSI-2.

SS4000 is SCSI-2, definitely. I'm still using mine :)

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[filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

2008-02-11 Thread Tony Sleep
On 11/02/2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Evidently, this adapter/converter still is on the market; but it
 works only
 with SCSI-2 from what I have been able to determine.

As far as I know, all filmscanners that appeared with SCSI interfaces used
SCSI2 standard, even though they only achieved SCSI1 speeds 1-3MB/sec
across the bus.

I'm not a Mac person, but I thought there were Firewire-SCSI converters
too, and that was a more robust solution than USB-SCSI because FW and
SCSI are more closely related. Or have the latest Mac's dumped Firewire too?

Leopard seems to have been Apple's Vista!

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[filmscanners] RE: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

2008-02-11 Thread Stan Schwartz
It is the old SS4000 without USB. Yes I think I will keep the old PC if there 
is no easy solution.

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Sent: 2/11/08 1:14 AM
Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

Several questions:

Is it a SprintScan 4000 with only SCSI, or the version 2 which
includes USB 2? If the latter you're all set.

Why not keep a machine which has PCI slots, like your current Windows
computer? Or get an ancient Mac G4 for $50 and stuff your current
SCSI adaptor in it. The old Mac and new one will network easily --
the Windows machine will cause a lot of little problems with file
naming conventions, and so on, but is workable.

I keep my scanners (including a SS4000) on a separate computer from
my work machine because I find it easier to deal with that way. The
interface card works, the scanner software works and is not upset
with/by new releases of the work machine's OS, and so on.

I use the same monitor, keyboard, and mouse for both machines with a
KVM switch (KVM - Keyboard, Video, Mouse) which cost about $50.

HTH!

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I currently am using my Polaroid SprintScan 4000 on a Windows
computer
with an installed SCSI card.



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[filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

2008-02-10 Thread Karen and John Hinkey
I have one by Adaptec that converts SCSI to USB - check on their
website.  I also use it with a SS4000 - works pretty well.

- John

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I currently am using my Polaroid SprintScan 4000 on a Windows computer with 
 an installed SCSI card.

 I am about to buy a new eight-core Mac Pro.  Is it possible to run the SCSI 
 sprintscan on a new Mac machine? Are there adapters now to allow SCSI devices 
 to connect to USB or FireWire ports?

 Suggestions?

 Stan





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[filmscanners] RE: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

2008-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There use to be a SCSI to USB adapter (XircomR PortGear USB To SCSI
Converter - PGSCSI, U1-SCSI) put out by Xircom (www.xircom.com or tel.:
800-438-4526), which I believe was an Intel subsidiary.  I believe it was a
SCSI 1 version of SCSI (the first version of SCSI) that would work for Mac
OS 8.6.  I do not know if it is still available - I doubt it, if it will
work with later Mac OSs - I doubt it, or even if Xircon is still in
business.  I do remember that it was expensive as compared to other types of
adapters.

You may be able to find it on ebay.

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 Subject: [filmscanners] SCSI support on a Mac Pro

 I currently am using my Polaroid SprintScan 4000 on a Windows computer
 with an installed SCSI card.

 I am about to buy a new eight-core Mac Pro.  Is it possible to run the
 SCSI sprintscan on a new Mac machine? Are there adapters now to allow
 SCSI devices to connect to USB or FireWire ports?

 Suggestions?

 Stan

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[filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro

2008-02-10 Thread Karen and John Hinkey
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/scsi_port/usb_scsi/USBXchange/

I think this is the more recent version of what I used.  Mac compatible
it seems.

- J

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I currently am using my Polaroid SprintScan 4000 on a Windows computer with 
 an installed SCSI card.

 I am about to buy a new eight-core Mac Pro.  Is it possible to run the SCSI 
 sprintscan on a new Mac machine? Are there adapters now to allow SCSI devices 
 to connect to USB or FireWire ports?

 Suggestions?

 Stan





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