Re: [Finale] Fermata (Pause)

2011-01-13 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2011-01-13 03:09, Steve Parker wrote: I assume that this is hardwired into Finale itself rather than in an xml file somewhere? Yes, unfortunately that's stored internally in HP. It's the same with the HP dictionary (cresc, rit, etc). Best regards, Jari Williamsson

[Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-13 Thread DeliusFan
Since I'm of the old school Finale users, having really cut my teeth on the program almost ten years ago, I never was used to the idea of linked parts, so I have continued doing the usual extraction method. I'm starting to regret this, especially as I didn't realize that this unlinks the

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
I can't be much help, although I've found that cut and paste can reliably transfer layout changes. What I will say though is 'Come over to the dark side of linked parts!' Any advantages to the part-extraction method are much more than made up for by the convenience of going back and forth.

[Finale] music spacing

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Hi all! I have music spacing set to 'Incorporate' changes I've manually made. It seems to ignore some of these - most annoyingly barline moves. Does anyone know exactly what is incorporated? I also find that 'update layout' seems to move some things back too. Does automatic music spacing

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-13 Thread Chuck Israels
There is much to learn in the way linked parts functions, and there are a few pages in the manual that address this well - required reading for anyone making this change, I would think. After that, Tobias Geisen's full complement of TG Tools will do some things that make using linked parts

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/13/2011 12:28 PM, delius...@aol.com wrote: Is it possible to do an Indiana Jones-like switcheroo, where I insert the part file I've been working on and laid out beautifully into the rough-cut part file that Finale wants to use when I go to select the part in question? Keep in mind that

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-13 Thread Christopher Smith
TG Tools Pro has Transfer... Layout for system breaks. You still have to nudge everything you nudged in the part, though, and adjust measure widths if you changed any. Christopher On 13-Jan-11, at 13-Jan-11 12:28 PM, delius...@aol.com wrote: Since I'm of the old school Finale users,

[Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Ryan
Opinion poll: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the duration of a 5/4 bar? 1) Using Whole tied to Quarter, regardless of wether the division is 3+2 or 2+3 2) Using a Halfs and Dotted Halfs tied to each other to reflect the division of the bar (whatever the case may

{Spam} Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread David H. Bailey
On 1/13/2011 3:27 PM, Ryan wrote: Opinion poll: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the duration of a 5/4 bar? 1) Using Whole tied to Quarter, regardless of wether the division is 3+2 or 2+3 2) Using a Halfs and Dotted Halfs tied to each other to reflect the

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
2. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 13 Jan 2011, at 3:27 PM, Ryan wrote: Opinion poll: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the duration of a 5/4 bar? 1) Using Whole tied to Quarter, regardless of wether the division is 3+2 or

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Lawrence Yates
option 2) - always. Cheers, Lawrence On 13 January 2011 20:27, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote: Opinion poll: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the duration of a 5/4 bar? 1) Using Whole tied to Quarter, regardless of wether the division is 3+2 or 2+3 2)

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, January 13, 2011 3:27 pm, Ryan wrote: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the duration of a 5/4 bar? The rhythmic division. 1+4, 2+3, 3+2, 4+1. The inner pair is more common, but the measure fill adheres to the underlying pulse. If the pulses differ in the

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Raymond Horton
Or, you could use Crumb's 5-beat note: .o. A whole note with a dot before and after.The thinking is - the dot before the note takes away half of the value of the dot after. Actually, I only saw this in smaller note values - 5/8 or 5/16. Like so many recent composers, Crumb prefers little

Re: [Finale] Articulations (tremolo slashes) not staying in place

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Larsen
Well, I solved the problem, although it seems like a bug in the program. My first violins were playing B five ledger lines above the staff, and the tremolo articulation stubbornly kept insisting on displaying below the staff. I temporarily transposed the passage down an octave, and the tremolos

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Even for a very clear 1+2+2 or 2+2+1 I would still treat it as 3+2 or 2+3 respectively for a 5 count note. Steve P. On 13 Jan 2011, at 21:02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Thu, January 13, 2011 3:27 pm, Ryan wrote: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:27, Ryan wrote: Opinion poll: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the duration of a 5/4 bar? 1) Using Whole tied to Quarter, regardless of wether the division is 3+2 or 2+3 Ugh... 2) Using a Halfs and Dotted Halfs tied to each other

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Ryan
Raymond, I'd LOVE to use Crumb's notation, but there's no quick easy way to get that into Finale. Thanks for all your opinions. Seems like I agree with most of you. Now, here's a follow-up: I'm working on a piece in 5/4. The composer wrote this as kind of a sequel to another piece he wrote in

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Centered whole rests are fine (what could be less ambiguous?) for empty measures in any meter. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 13 Jan 2011, at 5:08 PM, Steve Parker wrote: Yes. Also never use a whole rest. ___

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Lawrence Yates
Offer to the other piece correctly for him (for a fee of course) Cheers, Lawrence On 13 January 2011 22:06, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote: Raymond, I'd LOVE to use Crumb's notation, but there's no quick easy way to get that into Finale. Thanks for all your opinions. Seems like I agree

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Yes, I should have been clearer. [Quarter note followed by whole rest] and the opposite are what I meant. Steve P. On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:24, Darcy James Argue wrote: Centered whole rests are fine (what could be less ambiguous?) for empty measures in any meter. Cheers, - DJA - WEB:

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:06, Ryan wrote: 'm working on a piece in 5/4. The composer wrote this as kind of a sequel to another piece he wrote in 5/4. Someone else engraved that other piece and used the whole-tied-to-quarter method. For consistency's sake, I'm wondering if I should follow the

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread John Howell
At 10:08 PM + 1/13/11, Steve Parker wrote: On 13 Jan 2011, at 20:27, Ryan wrote: Opinion poll: What is your preferred method of writing a note that sounds for the duration of a 5/4 bar? 1) Using Whole tied to Quarter, regardless of wether the division is 3+2 or 2+3 Ugh... 2) Using a

[Finale] Left page to start

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Hi, I'm trying to work out how to make the first page in my score a left page? Current kludge is to insert a blank but I'm sure it's in a menu somewhere... Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] music spacing

2011-01-13 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2011-01-13 19:24, Steve Parker wrote: I have music spacing set to 'Incorporate' changes I've manually made. It seems to ignore some of these - most annoyingly barline moves. Does anyone know exactly what is incorporated? I also find that 'update layout' seems to move some things back too.

Re: [Finale] Left page to start

2011-01-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/13/2011 7:26 PM, Steve Parker wrote: I'm trying to work out how to make the first page in my score a left page? Current kludge is to insert a blank but I'm sure it's in a menu somewhere... No, inserting a blank page is the right way to go, unless you want to play with page number

Re: [Finale] whole notes in 5/4

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
I should have been clearer. If the entire bar is empty then a whole rest is needed. But I would never write [Quarter note followed by whole rest] or its opposite. Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:09, John Howell wrote: Yes. Also never use a whole rest. If the division is unclear I usually

Re: [Finale] music spacing

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Thanks for reply - this clarifies it. Is it correct then that if I write half a score and move elements around that I then have no access to automatic music spacing for the rest of the score unless I'm prepared to have it interfere with what I've already done? Or am I thinking wrong? Steve

Re: [Finale] Left page to start

2011-01-13 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2011-01-14 01:35, Aaron Sherber wrote: No, inserting a blank page is the right way to go, unless you want to play with page number offsets and keep track of which pages are really LH or RH. I also think that's a method that would be less confusing for printing shops. Best regards,

Re: [Finale] music spacing

2011-01-13 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2011-01-14 01:38, Steve Parker wrote: Is it correct then that if I write half a score and move elements around that I then have no access to automatic music spacing for the rest of the score unless I'm prepared to have it interfere with what I've already done? That's correct. Best

Re: [Finale] Left page to start

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Parker
Ok. I'm already playing with page number offsets as well.. A shame that it can't be specified or at least follow the offset page number to determine left and right rather than the real page number. Thanks! Steve P. On 14 Jan 2011, at 00:35, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/13/2011 7:26 PM, Steve

RE: [Finale] music spacing

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Yates
You can still use automatic music spacing (for instance in Speedy Entry or adding articulations) on later measures without it affecting earlier spacing UNTIL you do an Update Layout for the whole document. If 'incorporate' manual positioning is checked, the only spacing that will be interfered

Re: [Finale] Left page to start

2011-01-13 Thread mjolnir
Ok. I'm already playing with page number offsets as well.. A shame that it can't be specified or at least follow the offset page number to determine left and right rather than the real page number. Ah, but one can specify the offset page. When one defines a text block containing a page number,

RE: [Finale] music spacing

2011-01-13 Thread SN jef chippewa
i never use auto-spacing, so maybe i'm not the right person to comment on this, but doesn't it only affect measures you enter (speedy/simple)? so you could do half a score and adjust and know that the only changes to what you have already adjusted after auto-spacing is selected would only

Re: [Finale] Relink extracted parts: possible or not possible?

2011-01-13 Thread Brian Williams
Michael, Try this (assuming you have TGTools installed): TGTools Modify Transfer... It will let you copy bar layouts, etc. from one place to another (from a laid-out separate part file to a linked part in another file, or from one linked part to another within the same file). You'll still