Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jun 2004 at 8:13, dhbailey wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Jun 2004 at 22:17, Mark D Lew wrote: On Jun 4, 2004, at 9:29 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Lyric tool works well. Really? Lyric tool works well if you know what you're doing, or if you never do anything

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jun 2004 at 15:56, Mark D Lew wrote: On Jun 6, 2004, at 5:01 AM, dhbailey wrote: Style sheets would be a fantastic addition to Finale! I could be wrong, but my sense is that incorporating style sheets directly into Finale is too impractical to even consider as a feature request to

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jun 2004 at 21:13, John Howell wrote: At 7:50 PM -0400 6/4/04, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 06:55 PM 06/04/2004, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: For example, I HATE the way Microsoft Word makes assumptions about what I want done with my typing, like correcting my spelling without telling me, or

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jun 2004 at 6:14, dhbailey wrote: But if it's possible in web-sites with html programming, it can't be that difficult to implement. I agreed with everything you wrote up to this point. You can't compare implementation across different domains. HTML was designed from the very beginning

Re: [Finale] Interrupt Processing Measures?

2004-06-07 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 11:11 AM, I wrote: I accidentally set up a system of repeats whereby the Processing Measures bit before playback was set in an endless loop. Is there any way (MacFin2kb) to interrupt the process without Force Quitting the program? I just reread that, and I feel

RE: [Finale] Interrupt Processing Measures?

2004-06-07 Thread Fisher, Allen
Yes. Hit the stop button. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Beyenhof Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Interrupt Processing Measures? On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 11:11 AM, I wrote: I

RE: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004Issue

2004-06-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jun 2004 at 12:03, Fisher, Allen wrote: DON'T USE TYPE INTO SCORE Why? In your entire rant about not using type into score, I didn't see a clear reason why. Rant? The reason not to use type in score is that it creates a text stream that doesn't really match the real text being set

Re: [Finale] Interrupt Processing Measures?

2004-06-07 Thread Brad Beyenhof
Tried it. Didn't work. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 11:28 AM, Fisher, Allen wrote: Yes. Hit the stop button. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Beyenhof Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] Interrupt Processing Measures?

2004-06-07 Thread Allen Fisher
I just created in infinite loop repeat and got 2k4b on both platforms to stop processing when I hit the stop button... On 6/7/04 1:58 PM, Allen Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac or PC? On 6/7/04 1:34 PM, Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried it. Didn't work.

Re: [Finale] Interrupt Processing Measures?

2004-06-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jun 2004 at 11:22, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 11:11 AM, I wrote: I accidentally set up a system of repeats whereby the Processing Measures bit before playback was set in an endless loop. Is there any way (MacFin2kb) to interrupt the process without Force

Re: [Finale] Lyrics input Issue

2004-06-07 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
I wrote: For me, the advantage of this is that when I find an error which has escaped proofreading early on, and need to locate the error in the lyric dialogs, the tags make it much easier to be assured I am looking in the right place. prompting David Fenton to query: Er, I don't understand.

Re: [Finale] Lyrics input Issue

2004-06-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jun 2004 at 14:40, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I wrote: For me, the advantage of this is that when I find an error which has escaped proofreading early on, and need to locate the error in the lyric dialogs, the tags make it much easier to be assured I am looking in the right place.

[Finale] Re: MacFin2004 Text Block Bug

2004-06-07 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Adrian, Restarting the computer doesn't even begin to address the problem here. Nor does it have anything to do with the Mac Fontpack (which I already have) or the number of fonts in my fonts folder. This is a very serious bug in Finale that has been a problem since Finale 2002, although

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004Issue

2004-06-07 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David W. Fenton wrote: The reason not to use type in score is that it creates a text stream that doesn't really match the real text being set *unless* you have very carefully ordered your typing in a way that will create a comprehensible text in the actual data store. With click assignment,

OT: Support .sig (Re: [Finale] Re: MacFin2004 Text Block Bug)

2004-06-07 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 07 Jun 2004, at 03:28 PM, MacSupport wrote: Introducing Finale 2004. See the new features and pre-order today at http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/f2k4/ Don't you think the support guys should update their signatures? -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Lyrics input Issue

2004-06-07 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
I wrote: It 's not so much a matter of having separate text, as being able to determine more easily while looking at the edit lyrics window which syllables are assigned to which notes. To which David responded, Exactly why do you need to know this? I have found the advantage of being able to fix

Re: [Finale] Lyrics input Issue

2004-06-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jun 2004 at 17:09, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I wrote: It 's not so much a matter of having separate text, as being able to determine more easily while looking at the edit lyrics window which syllables are assigned to which notes. To which David responded, Exactly why do you need to

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004Issue

2004-06-07 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Where David W. Fenton writes: But [using type into score] you have to do the entry in the correct order to get the lyrics to come out comprehensibly. I would suggest instead, that one merely needs to understand how Finale places syllables in the lyrics area of the data file, in order to be

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 7, 2004, at 10:47 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Seems to me that Lyrics got the way it is because it is an *old* subsystem, dating back to very early versions of Finale, and the changes to it have been bolted on the sides over time, making it rather baroque and nearly impossible to figure out.

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 7, 2004, at 5:24 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: (though I consider it a design flaw that when syllable counts are changed in the edit lyrics box, syllables shift from the current system to the next one, or from the next system to the current one, depending upon whether the syllable count

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 7, 2004, at 10:59 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Yes, it *is* a problem with Type in Score, since certain kinds of problems that pop up in Type in Score can only be figured out by going to Edit Lyrics. I can't remember a specific example, but with my Requiem example, that was where I got in

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 7, 2004, at 3:14 AM, dhbailey wrote: But if it's possible in web-sites with html programming, it can't be that difficult to implement. Right, but it's not the web-site that does the implementing, it's the browser. The browser is essentially an interpreter of HTML code. The analog would

[Finale] Re: Pessimistic?

2004-06-07 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
David Bailey wrote: A beta tester on another list has let drop that there more new features coming in 2005, which is currently in beta-testing. Nothing specific was said, but I just thought I would say they apparently are on schedule for the normal August release of the new version. I know

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jun 2004 at 16:12, Mark D Lew wrote: On Jun 7, 2004, at 10:47 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Indeed, a lot of very small changes could make Lyrics much more usable (like allowing resizing of the click assignment dialog -- geez, how frigging hard would *that* be?), Amen! And the Edit

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-07 Thread John Howell
At 2:07 PM -0400 6/7/04, David W. Fenton wrote: Don't you folks always explore the menus of programs when you start using them? With Microsoft programs on Windows, user controllable options are stored on the Tools menu, under OPTIONS. Word also has separate menu entries for Autocorrect. I don't if

Re: [Finale] Re: Special Part Extraction

2004-06-07 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hey Brian, good stuff. One question: 4) Program 3 or 4 QuicKey macros to set the size of multimeasure rests to various lengths and use them on each part (every time you redo SPE it resets all multimeasure rests to the same default length defined in the window you click through). Can you

[Finale] Re: Special Part Extraction/Linking Score Parts

2004-06-07 Thread Brian Williams
Glad to be of help. :-) Incidentally, there was some discussion a few years ago about Finale programmers seriously considering getting rid of Special Part Extraction all together. I wrote them a rather impassioned email that hopefully helped to keep it around. On the subject of linking score

Re: [Finale] Re: Special Part Extraction/Linking Score Parts

2004-06-07 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 07 Jun 2004, at 11:59 PM, Brian Williams wrote: On the subject of linking score parts, I think that SPE would be the best way for a future version of Finale to do this (by storing entries along with multiple page layouts, spacings, text blocks and measure item placements in one file). This

[Finale] Re: Special Part Extraction

2004-06-07 Thread Brian Williams
Christopher wrote: Any other tips? One more thing: When I get to the harp piano parts, I load a 2-staff Page Layout library -- with different system spacing than for single-staff parts -- and use the Page Format tool to redefine all pages. This only takes a couple of seconds (much less time

[Finale] OT: Microsoft gains double-clicking patent

2004-06-07 Thread Michael Good
The problem is more in the press coverage, I think. This is not a double-clicking patent; it is a patent on a specific way to combine click, press, and double-click on cell-phone like devices in order to launch applications. I've not aware of any prior art which meets the patent claims, though I'm

[Finale] Re: Special Part Extraction

2004-06-07 Thread Brian Williams
Darcy wrote (in regard to my SPE method tip): 4) Program 3 or 4 QuicKey macros to set the size of multimeasure rests to various lengths and use them on each part (every time you redo SPE it resets all multimeasure rests to the same default length defined in the window you click through).