Re: [Finale] Grace notes

2005-02-10 Thread Owain Sutton
d. collins wrote: Two questions on grace notes: Is there any way (plug-in?) to get Finale to add a little more space between a grace note and the following main note? I find the default spacing too tight, especially if there's a slur. Document Options - Grace Notes - Grace Note Offset on Entry

Re: [Finale] TAN: OSX Panther Upgrade

2005-02-10 Thread Rocky Road
Okay, so I ordered the Panther upgrade. I'm sure you had a good reason, but I hope you realise that Tiger (10.4) could be just around the corner. -- Rocky Road - in Oz Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: [snip] No, it absolutely does. Let me try one last time: Dog bites man. Man bites dog. What's the difference? Same three words. Different meaning. What accounts for the difference? Grammar. Grammar controls meaning. Actually, meaning controls grammar. We have the

[Finale] Strauss

2005-02-10 Thread David Froom
Actually, Strauss called HIMSELF a first-rate second-rate composer. David Froom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:00:14 -0600 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Finale Digest, Vol 19, Issue 17 I remember when it was fashionable to call

[Finale] Music Theory/Duke Ellington

2005-02-10 Thread David Froom
In defense of music theory -- it seems to me (as someone who has taught it mostly to performers for 25 years) that a primary function is help people's brains become aware of what their ear already knows. (I know, it all happens in the brain . . . guess I'm talking left-brain, right-brain -- oops

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Richard Yates
You seem to me to be arguing that acoustics are part of the musical content of a work of music, where I'm saying that it is only the mechanism by which the content is conveyed. Can to define this elusive content without reference to physics? ___

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Richard Yates
In all of these words about words, it may be that the hangup is the word 'significant'. Perhaps all he is saying is that grammar is not the meaning and the words themselves are not the meaning. If I am on the right track then he would also say that sound (and hence any aspect of physics) is not

Re: [Finale] TAN: OSX Panther Upgrade

2005-02-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Rocky Road / 05.2.10 / 04:10 AM wrote: I'm sure you had a good reason, but I hope you realise that Tiger (10.4) could be just around the corner. In my opinion, You do not want to depend your work on first generation anything, both software and hardware. First generation is for you to play

[Finale] FinMac 2005b + Times

2005-02-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
I was printing out music for show tomorrow, and surprised at printout messes last night. Wherever I used Times is totally messed up space- wise. I had to reassign to Times New Roman file by file (didn't know if there is a batch way). I still don't understand 'check font against system'

Re: [Finale] Re: Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread John Howell
At 11:40 PM -0500 2/9/05, David W. Fenton wrote: On 9 Feb 2005 at 23:27, John Howell wrote: I'm not sure where the Austrian Lutherans came from! That use of trombones (or sackbutts) goes back at least to Schuetz, one of whose Psalm settings from about 1619 I studied in a graduate seminar, in

Re: [Finale] Music Theory/Duke Ellington

2005-02-10 Thread Daniel Wolf
There is a tremendous fear of music theory out there, with many musicians having the sense that music-theoretic discourse kills the magic of music making. However, I find that that such feelings can often be alleviated by identifying the tasks that theorists set as modest ones with results

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:53 PM, John Howell wrote: Bernouli's law, ...Same law that holds up both fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft. Actually, that can't be the case, though everybody thinks it is. If Bernoulli's law were responsible for lift in aircraft, airplanes wouldn't be able to fly

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 9, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: I assume that by age of 150 you mean 150 years after birth*. When I wrote the first post I thought I had examples, but now that I do the math, I find the ones I had in mind went out of fashion around age 75-100 and thus don't meet your test. I'...

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
Since he dangle his grammatical temporal dongle, I wonder if he'd clarify if he meant the fame from the late 18th century on, or the composer from the late 18th century on. Dennis Fame--or rather, reputation, wh. is what I was really talking about. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press

[Finale] Musical meaning

2005-02-10 Thread Ken Moore
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David W. Fenton writes: Plenty of music has meaning with absolutely no non-musical external references. We may not be able to verbalize exactly what that meaning may be, and we may not all agree on the exact meaning, but the meaning is, in fact, there in the music.

[Finale] OT Bernoulli

2005-02-10 Thread Ken Moore
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Yates write: I cannot believe that someone else also mentioned Bernoulli! By the way, I heard somewhere recently that the relative force of Bernoulli effect is now seen as less significant than the simple pressure on the underside of the wing from the positive

Re: [Finale] Re: Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 9, 2005, at 8:19 PM, Rudolf van Berkum wrote: In the case of the trombones' entry in The Magic Flute that Raymond Horton mentioned, we can appreciate that for the Lutheran members of the audience in Mozart's day, the sound of the trombone would have additional meaning for them because of

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2005b + Times

2005-02-10 Thread Allen Fisher
Finale keeps a list of fonts on your system that are used in a document, so that you can take the file to other systems and use the correct fonts. This list can get out of sync if for example, take a file that uses the Awesome font from your desktop to your laptop that you do not have Awesome

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2005b + Times

2005-02-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Allen Fisher / 05.2.10 / 00:28 PM wrote: By choosing Check Document Fonts Against System Fonts, you are given the opportunity to replace a font not found on the system with one that is. That's what I thought, but it is not working, at least on my machines. See, back in OS9 dark ages, I had a

RE: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Stu McIntire
Regarding physics and music, can I walk out on the ice and suggest that a distinction needs to be made between physics as a discipline of study, on the one hand, and the term being used to refer to the actual forces, etc., that function in the universe? After parsing through these interesting

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread John Howell
At 11:06 AM -0500 2/10/05, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:53 PM, John Howell wrote: Bernouli's law, ...Same law that holds up both fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft. Actually, that can't be the case, though everybody thinks it is. If Bernoulli's law were responsible for lift in

Re: [Finale] Bernoulli and airplane wings

2005-02-10 Thread Phil Daley
At 03:29 PM 2/10/2005, dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: Actually, that can't be the case, though everybody thinks it is. If Bernoulli's law were responsible for lift in aircraft, airplanes wouldn't be able to fly upside-down--and they can. I'm confused by this remark --

RE: [Finale] Bernoulli and airplane wings

2005-02-10 Thread Bob Colwell
Folks, there's way more to this topic than anyone has said so far. Here are some resources (and please let's get back to Finale, because whenever we stray from that things get weird very quickly.) 1. Stop Abusing Bernoulli: How Airplanes Really Fly, Gale Craig, Regenerative Press1997

Re: [Finale] TAN Magic Flute (was Garritan and other stuff)

2005-02-10 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 10, 2005, at 9:23 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: I I find myself puzzled at the assertions by quite a few on this list that The Magic Flute is incoherent. I confess I have never found it so. To me the characters, motivations, and events are all perfectly straightforward and sensible (within

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
David W. Fenton wrote: No one is a bigger fan of Mozart than I am. But I have always felt that the Magic Flute is incoherent *as an opera* (or Singspiel, technically speaking, I guess). If it did not have some of the most glorious music ever written, it would be a failure. But so far as I can

[Finale] To fly or not to fly

2005-02-10 Thread D. Keneth Fowler
David Bailey observed, When a plane flies upside down there is still an upper side and a lower side for the air to work against. Well designed wings (as in aerobatic planes) work equally well no matter which side is up. It might be clearer to say that wings designed for aerobatic flight (there

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Feb 2005 at 0:36, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 10 Feb 2005, at 12:26 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 10 Feb 2005 at 0:09, Darcy James Argue wrote: No, it absolutely does. Let me try one last time: Dog bites man. Man bites dog. What's the difference? Same three words.

Re: [Finale] Musical meaning

2005-02-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Feb 2005 at 10:07, Ken Moore wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David W. Fenton writes: Plenty of music has meaning with absolutely no non-musical external references. We may not be able to verbalize exactly what that meaning may be, and we may not all agree on the exact meaning, but

Re: [Finale] TAN Magic Flute and Opera

2005-02-10 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 10, 2005, at 1:42 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: I go to the opera in a state of suspension of disbelief, otherwise I cannot enjoy it. Many opera plots seem ridiculous to me, and taking 15 minutes to die while singing...well, you see what I mean. So that's the price of enjoyment of the