Re: [Finale] rulers

2006-01-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
FWIW, one of the features of Mac OS 10.5 is supposed to be a resolution-independent UI -- so that the menubar will always be, e.g., 1/4 tall, regardless of screen size and resolution. This is supposed to create uniform legibility for UI elements, even on displays with very small pixels.

[Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread Brian Williams
Dear list, I just started using Finale 2006 for real work and discovered a disturbing new loss of functionality. In the mass mover tool, whenever you select a region and attempt to copy it to other staves you are greeted in every instance by an annoying dialog box that takes the place of the

Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread John Bell
Brian Hold down only the opt key as you click on the target measure. John On 31 Jan 2006, at 10:28, Brian Williams wrote: Dear list, I just started using Finale 2006 for real work and discovered a disturbing new loss of functionality. In the mass mover tool, whenever you select a

Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread Christopher Smith
John Bell got it right - hold down just the Opt key to skip the dialogue box. Once I got this, things got a LOT faster! The dialogue box remembers your settings, which I REALLY like. The only big loss of functionality with the new copy behaviour (for me on Mac, dunno about PC) is that

[Finale] Get rid of high prices and snootiness

2006-01-31 Thread David Froom
On 1/31/06 5:30 AM, David Fenton wrote: So, Carl, yes you are exactly right. Get rid of high prices and snootiness, and classical music of every stripe flourishes. Er, when somebody pays the musicians so that the audience doesn't have to pay. Which gets us back to the US vs. Europe

Re: [Finale] rulers

2006-01-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Jan 2006 at 3:33, Darcy James Argue wrote: (Upthread, someone mentioned that the Mac standard is 72 dpi, which hasn't been true for many years now. DPI varies considerably from model to model, especially in the notebook line.) It's the base standard for web browser font rendering, so

[Finale] Maryland River Concert Series

2006-01-31 Thread David Froom
On 1/31/06 5:30 AM, Ray Horton wrote: Including crap. We (Louisville Orchestra) played the Kenji Bunch piece with the Ahn trio last year, on our classical series, not our pops series. It is pure pop crap, just one bad rock cliche after another. The Ahn trio itself is a hoax - three

Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread Robert Patterson
copy-paste between documents doesn't copy everything, Are you talking about meas-attached shapes here? Is that what Fin06 doesn't copy that prior versions did copy? I had hoped MM was gonna restore that in a maintenance release, but perhaps not, huh? For me the biggest loss of functionality

Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Christopher Smith / 2006/01/31 / 07:08 AM wrote: John Bell got it right - hold down just the Opt key to skip the dialogue box. Once I got this, things got a LOT faster! My biggest pleasure with 2006 was this new Mass Mover (still can't remember the new name for this tool!) improvement, but I

Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:08 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: The only big loss of functionality with the new copy behaviour (for me on Mac, dunno about PC) is that drag-and-drop between documents is now disabled, Christopher, I just tried this, and it does work. It's a little dicey

Re: [Finale] OT Contemporary music and anti-intellectualism [was: Happy 250th Birthday Mozart]

2006-01-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
The Hovhaness reference confused me for a minute, because I was referring to living classical composers, of which he is not one, and of recently dead composers in a similar style--of which he is also not one. (Nothing against H., BTW; I think he's gotten a bad rap over the years). I'm not

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart - now Finale list vs D. F.

2006-01-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jan 30, 2006, at 9:08 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Anyone else for calling an end to this and getting back to Finale and tangential musical discussions? Two things: 1) People who are deliberately rude do it because they wish to get a rise out of people, so as to validate their own

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor]

2006-01-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
Q: What is the dynamic range of a bass trombone? A: On or off. I'm told that a century ago in England, it was standard practice for orchestra trombonists to play all notes forte and staccato, regardless of the notated dynamic or duration. No joke! --be interesting to hear Elgar played that

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart - now Finale list vs D. F.

2006-01-31 Thread Eric Dannewitz
So, we are supposed to just ignore things? Almost all the other lists have some sort of etiquette, either written or implied. I think that is what those of us who dislike Fenton's post are seeking. There is no etiquette at all in his posts. His response is if you don't like it, delete me,

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart - now Finale list vs D. F.

2006-01-31 Thread Phil Daley
Article in this week's Computerworld: Seven People of Highly Ineffective Habits #5 The Howard Cosell tells it like it is, regardless of the consequences for himself and others. Tact is not in his vocabulary. Like his namesake, he always has an opinion, and he won't hesitate to give it --

Re: [Finale] Maryland River Concert Series

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Horton
David Froom wrote: Ray, ... The point of this series is to take chances, knowing it has a generous audience. Bunch is a serious composer with a solid background. I've heard respectable pieces by him in other contexts. He was suggested to the series by the Ahn trio, who, under the right

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart - now Finale list vs D. F.

2006-01-31 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Somehow, I see Fenton with a microphone practicing football announcing and I shutter..as I shuttered when Dennis Miller was on Monday night football..;-) Phil Daley wrote: Article in this week's Computerworld: Seven People of Highly Ineffective Habits #5 The Howard Cosell

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread Don Hart
on 1/31/06 1:02 PM, Andrew Stiller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: What is the dynamic range of a bass trombone? A: On or off. I'm told that a century ago in England, it was standard practice for orchestra trombonists to play all notes forte and staccato, regardless of the notated dynamic

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart - now Finale list vs D. F.

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Horton
Eric, You have made your point. We could all benefit by moving on. RBH Eric Dannewitz wrote: So, we are supposed to just ignore things? ... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT Contemporary music and anti-intellectualism [was: Happy 250th Birthday Mozart]

2006-01-31 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Andrew Stiller wrote: I'm not sure I understand why you don't think Hovhaness was a recently dead composer in classical style, since he died in 2000, and when find references to performances of his music it is by classical music groups, and the recordings are in the classical music section

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart - now Finale list vs D. F.

2006-01-31 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 31.01.2006 Raymond Horton wrote: I really thought we were done with all of this. As someone who has been on the receiving end of David's barbs on occasion, I have to say that the criticism of him has gone way overboard. Anyone else for calling an end to this and getting back to Finale and

Re: [Finale] Maryland River Concert Series

2006-01-31 Thread Chuck Israels
If you want to hear an extreme version of sounding better on record than live, listen to our recording of the Morton Gould viola concerto. The soloist, who name I, and everyone else, has forgotten, had dug up the piece that Morton had written back in 1940 or so and forgotten. Said

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread Christopher Smith
on 1/31/06 1:02 PM, Andrew Stiller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: What is the dynamic range of a bass trombone? A: On or off. True story: The conductor of a major orchestra had been waxing philosophical for a few minutes on how he wanted a certain passage to be played. From the back, the

RE: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart - now Finale list vs D. F.

2006-01-31 Thread Stu McIntire
I mostly just lurk around here, but I get a lot out of the list and I'd like to comment on this thread. I've come around from an initial petulance to appreciating David's contributions because I like the clarity of his thought and the care he takes in framing his arguments and in dissecting the

[Finale] Re: Finale list vs D. F.

2006-01-31 Thread Éric Dussault
Le 06-01-31 à 13:44, Andrew Stiller a écrit :Two things: 1) People who are deliberately rude do it because they wish to get a rise out of people, so as to validate their own existence. The way to control such behavior is simply not to respond. At all. 2) Telling someone they are rude is itself

RE: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread keith helgesen
Sounds a bit like the question (supposedly from a trumpeter!) Is that passage slunged or turd? For the benefit of non wind players- tongued or slurred? as in articulation! Cheers K Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 Private Mob

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread Christopher Smith
The funniest part was the delivery. Think of Robert Barone, the big brother character from Everybody Loves Raymond, the TV show, delivering it in a deadpan monotone. Plus, the bass trombonist really was speaking out of turn, as he should refer to the section leader first for points of

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread Carl Dershem
Christopher Smith wrote: The funniest part was the delivery. Think of Robert Barone, the big brother character from Everybody Loves Raymond, the TV show, delivering it in a deadpan monotone. Plus, the bass trombonist really was speaking out of turn, as he should refer to the section leader

[Finale] Two vertical systems on a page

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Horton
I know this is possible, and very simple, on a PART, but I can't figure out how to do this on a SCORE: I would like to have two vertical systems, with white space in between them, on one page of a score (a tall full orchestra score). This would be similar to adding a Coda. (That is not

Re: [Finale] Melody (was Happy 250th Birthday Mozart)

2006-01-31 Thread John Howell
At 6:20 AM -0500 1/30/06, dhbailey wrote: I have to disagree here -- to Glenn Miller, melody was supremely important. Being able to dance to the music was important as well, but melody was very important. I think it was because for the audiences for which he played, dance music had to

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-31 Thread John Howell
At 11:26 AM + 1/30/06, Owain Sutton wrote: John Howell wrote: At 10:53 AM + 1/29/06, Owain Sutton wrote: Some good points, perhaps, although I think you need a bit more evidence before making such claims about Dufay or Josquin with such certainty! In DuFay's lifetime the

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread bill
I think bass trombonists are cool. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Two vertical systems on a page

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Horton
I should have said that I am running FinWin 2006C I know this is possible, and very simple, on a PART, but I can't figure out how to do this on a SCORE: I would like to have two vertical systems, with white space in between them, on one page of a score (a tall full orchestra score). This

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread Carl Dershem
bill wrote: I think bass trombonists are cool. Don't worry - you can get help. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] TAN: problem with displaying PDF files

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Horton
I can't RTFM, or any other PDF file, and I've had serious problems with them for months. I have a Pentium 4 that's about three years old. Several months ago, whether I click on PDFs or call up Acrobat Reader first, the files would load EXTREMELY slowly. Now they won't load at all -

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-31 Thread John Howell
At 7:36 PM + 1/30/06, Owain Sutton wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jan 30, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Owain Sutton wrote: Petrucci was a shrewd (or very lucky) businessman. But, we do not know who he sold books to, or even how many he sold. Early printed music, right up through at least the

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread bill
Christopher, I hope you are not offfended by that. Being an ex-lead trombone player, I always envied the bass. So much cool plumbing! I could never afford it, but I always loved the sound. Sorry to be sophomoric, but bass trombones rule...and violists Bill bill wrote: I think bass

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Of course, there is always the joke: What do you call a Trombone player with a pager? Optimist bill wrote: Christopher, I hope you are not offfended by that. Being an ex-lead trombone player, I always envied the bass. So much cool plumbing! I could never afford it, but I always loved the

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-01-31 Thread Adriel
Hey I play soprano trombone..badly an oddly ;) -Adriel From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:49:17 -0800 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems Christopher, I hope you are not offfended by that.

Re: [Finale] Two vertical systems on a page

2006-01-31 Thread Florence + Michael
Here's how you can get two thin systems side by side on one page of a score: - In the Page Layout menu, un-check the option Avoid Margin Collisions. - Drag the widths of the systems to make them as slim as desired. - Position the systems on their respective pages so that the first system is