Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 27, 2007, at 10:24 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: mark, holy crap, man, check this thing out. auto-placement positions the expressions to avoid staves and the notes, really worth the time, especially for people as meticulous as i think you are (as i am) about positioning. of

Re: [Finale] Linked Parts Tip - using different clefs in voiced parts

2007-04-28 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi all, I was struggling to figure out how to use different clefs for voiced linked parts -- i.e., two instruments that share the same staff in the score, but use Fin2007's Specify Voicing feature to create individual linked parts. I finally figured it out, and

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.04.2007 Mark D Lew wrote: I just now tried doing that, but my immediate problem is I can't figure out how to use a metatool for an expression and not have it show up on every staff. If you absoloutely need to use measure epressions, then you are stuck. This is one of the worst bits of

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 28, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: my immediate problem is I can't figure out how to use a metatool for an expression and not have it show up on every staff. I don't see a place to define that. What am I missing? Most of my work is piano-vocal and most of my expressions I

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.04.2007 shirling neueweise wrote: I just now tried doing that, but my immediate problem is I can't figure out how to use a metatool for an expression and not have it show up on every staff. attach it to the note. (expression menu: context-sensitive or note-attached). Actually, that

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread shirling neueweise
Yes, it is a drag that you can't use staff lists when using metatools on measure-attached expressions, but the staff assignment dialogue box is only a right-click away. or left hand shift + right hand return and you can can immediately type values / tab through fields and hit enter

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread shirling neueweise
Actually, that is not always ideal, and sometimes plain silly. How do you place an Allegro marking to a note to allign with the start of the time sig (as you can with a measure attached expression), let alone the trouble when extracting parts. it's not silly at all, mark seemed fairly

Re: [Finale] Fin2k5b on Macbook?

2007-04-28 Thread Hans Swinnen
Dear Darcy, It's hopeless. I've copied from my PPC and removed all prefs and the location.txt as you suggested, but to no avail. A message come up, displaying Finale cannot start the Registration Wizard because a required data file (location.txt, Dealers_Fin.txt) was not found in the

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:13 AM 4/28/2007, Christopher Smith wrote: Things that are global, like rit, accel, a tempo, rehearsal letters, and any style markings, should be assigned using measure-attached expressions. These are the only things that measure-attached expressions should be used for (though I also put in

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 28, 2007, at 8:33 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: This is one area where Finale behaves plain stupid. huh? why? aside from not being able to attach expressions to page coordinates as well... I think he was referring to not having easy access to the Staff Lists when using

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread shirling neueweise
If you make it measure-attached, you can specify the displacement in beats from the beginning of the measure, which means it'll still be in the right place in the part. even better is right aligned to right measure with a specific leftwards offset to avoid collision with barlines and to

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread shirling neueweise
But as for expressions attached to page coordinates: isn't that what the Text tool is for? what about movement titles? copyright notices on individual pieces in a set with part extraction? performance notes as footnotes? -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On 28-Apr-07, at 9:44 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: But as for expressions attached to page coordinates: isn't that what the Text tool is for? what about movement titles? copyright notices on individual pieces in a set with part extraction? performance notes as footnotes? I stand

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:44 AM 4/28/2007, shirling neueweise wrote: But as for expressions attached to page coordinates: isn't that what the Text tool is for? what about movement titles? copyright notices on individual pieces in a set with part extraction? performance notes as footnotes? I haven't dealt with

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.04.2007 shirling neueweise wrote: Actually, that is not always ideal, and sometimes plain silly. How do you place an Allegro marking to a note to allign with the start of the time sig (as you can with a measure attached expression), let alone the trouble when extracting parts. it's

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.04.2007 Christopher Smith wrote: But as for expressions attached to page coordinates: isn't that what the Text tool is for? In a way, yes, but it doesn't really work. Even with text frames you can only _either_ attach it to the page _or_ to a measure. And ideally expressions should

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:17 AM 4/28/2007, shirling neueweise wrote: If you make it measure-attached, you can specify the displacement in beats from the beginning of the measure, which means it'll still be in the right place in the part. even better is right aligned to right measure with a specific leftwards

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread shirling neueweise
It is f=?)(()/ plain stupid that Finale doesn't at least remember the last setting of the staff asignment dialog ah ok, i wasn't sure what you were on about, yes i totally agree. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread shirling neueweise
I think that positioning the expression as you suggest would still result in the offset being given as EVPU -- that is, absolute units. yes. My way, with an offset in beats from the beginning of the measure, the expression always falls in the right place regardless of how the measure is

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.04.2007 Aaron Sherber wrote: I haven't dealt with the latter two, but for movement titles I use measure expressions, and in this case measure offset coordinates work better than page coordinates. I think you are still talking about different things. As far as tempo indications like

[Finale] Grace Notes on Voiced Linked Parts

2007-04-28 Thread Jonathan Smith
Darcy, I have also tried in vain to overcome this problem and have given up and just added extra staves and voiced each part individually when I have dual voiced grace notes. I thought changing the 2nd part into layer 2 might help but it becomes even worse - and you still can't drag the

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 28, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 28.04.2007 Aaron Sherber wrote: I haven't dealt with the latter two, but for movement titles I use measure expressions, and in this case measure offset coordinates work better than page coordinates. I think you are still talking

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.04.2007 Christopher Smith wrote: Actually, I understand what Aaron is saying for movement titles. A measure expression can be set to align with the left barline of bar 1, handle centre aligned, but with an additional horizontal offset of exactly half the printed page width (3.5 inches

Re: [Finale] Grace Notes on Voiced Linked Parts

2007-04-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Jonathan, Just so you know, it's not just dual voiced grace notes -- they don't space correctly on voiced linked parts even on a2 passages. It's totally ridiculous. I guess the best solution would be to add extra staves to the score that only show up in scroll view, and use those

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 28, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 28.04.2007 Christopher Smith wrote: Actually, I understand what Aaron is saying for movement titles. A measure expression can be set to align with the left barline of bar 1, handle centre aligned, but with an additional horizontal

[Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions (was Re: should we expect another upgrade?)

2007-04-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:33 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: it's not silly at all, mark seemed fairly clearly to be referring to note-specific expressions; although i could be wrong... and of course tempi and other score-related expressions should be measure attached. Actually, no. I've

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:57 AM 4/28/2007, shirling neueweise wrote: agreed (in principle), but typically the whole note measure takes up far too little space in the part (and is not proportionally related to surrounding measures) for the musician to be able to judge at which point the decresc. ends (p starts); for

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:28 PM 4/28/2007, Johannes Gebauer wrote: It only goes some of the way, though: It doesn't handle several lines (you can only left allign them, not center), True. Although you can kind of fake center alignment with spaces. and if you have different indents for the first system (ie

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:15 PM 4/28/2007, Christopher Smith wrote: Actually, I understand what Aaron is saying for movement titles. A measure expression can be set to align with the left barline of bar 1, handle centre aligned, but with an additional horizontal offset of exactly half the printed page width (3.5

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions (was Re: should we expect another upgrade?)

2007-04-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On 28-Apr-07, at 3:40 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: Two of the things that you (Jef) have stressed as time-savers don't really apply to me. I find it pretty handy just the same to have my tempo and style expressions with a pre-defined positioning, even if I won't be extracting parts.

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions (was Re: should we expect another upgrade?)

2007-04-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.04.2007 Christopher Smith wrote: Anyway, if you are sold on your own method (like I am on Speedy Entry, even though everyone seems to think Simple Entry beats it by a mile) who am I to say you're wrong? Just wanted to say, I am also still on Speedy. I even tried Simple several times,

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions (was Re: should we expect another upgrade?)

2007-04-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.04.2007 Mark D Lew wrote: Actually, no. I've always done all my expressions as measure-attached. It sounds like the consensus here is that auto-positioning and metatools are only going to be useful to me if I switch to note-attached. So now I'm looking at an even bigger change of

[Finale] Is there a key command to select the Arrow tool in Finale?

2007-04-28 Thread Jim Fischer
Is there a key command to select the Arrow tool? Just tired of always mousing up to the top left corner. btw - haven't memorized the pdf manual yet :) thx, Jim :: j i m f i s c h e r :: p r o d u c e r :: m u s i c b o x p r o d u c t i o n s :: v a n c o u v e r, w a, u s a ::

Re: [Finale] Is there a key command to select the Arrow tool in Finale?

2007-04-28 Thread JohnBlane
Try the Escape key. In a message dated 4/28/07 5:06:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a key command to select the Arrow tool? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Finale mailing list

[Finale] A font problem (Mac)

2007-04-28 Thread John Roberts
I've been doing a project in Fin 2006c, exporting into PageMaker to assemble a book. I've always exported eps, but compiling eps still doesn't work properly. E.g. if I'm using a font with different weights of bold, even when I select the right one in the menu I only get one degree of bold - if I

[Finale] partial measure selection tip

2007-04-28 Thread Randolph Peters
When trying to select part of a measure, I already knew that it works better to select backwards. I still had problems getting parts of beats selected. Sometimes the highlighted area would round off to the nearest beat and other times not. (I couldn't see the pattern.) I finally found a

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 28, 2007, at 6:09 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: double-click a note or measure (1-2 clicks of the mouse) scroll to find the expression in the expression list (several clicks) enter - 2 5 tab - 1 4 4 enter [=12-13 separate actions on the keyboard and mouse] Total time spent: ~ 6

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
But of course, using the Horiztonal Offset in the expression definition, you CAN specify an absolute offset from beat position. That's just one of the many benefits of the Fin2004+ expressions. And, as you point out, there's just no way selecting expressions from the list can ever be

Re: [Finale] A font problem (Mac)

2007-04-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
Yes. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 28 Apr 2007, at 8:28 PM, John Roberts wrote: Were fonts adjusted for OSX? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale