Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 28, 2007, at 9:34 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: But of course, using the Horiztonal Offset in the expression definition, you CAN specify an absolute offset from beat position. That's just one of the many benefits of the Fin2004+ expressions. And, as you point out, there's just no

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
Mark, At the risk of appalling you further, I'm curious how many expressions you keep on your expression list. My basic template has 12, of which two I never use anymore and could probably delete. I get the impression that I'm in a minority here and most people keep a longer list.

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 28, 2007, at 11:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Like most people, I have more than 12 dynamic expressions alone. Finale's template comes with 17 ( through , various fp's and sfz's, and a sub. p.). Since you do vocal music, you'd want a second set of dynamics set to

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
If any of the expressions are defined for playback, it's because they came that way in the MM template. I usually don't need to define anything for playback, because Human Playback interprets most of them (e.g., pizz., arco, mute) automatically. With every new version, I always look at the

[Finale] OT: mail (mac) and mime attachments

2007-04-29 Thread shirling neueweise
anyone have experience dealing with mime attachments? a colleague (on mail) has some filters set up to auto-forward certain messages to me (eudora). i have been receiving the headers inline and the body of the messages as mime attachments but need the entire message (especially the body)

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2007 Mark D Lew wrote: In my typical work I enter about five or six expressions per page. Ok, in that case I think you might as well stick with what you have. JFYI: I sometimes enter music with around 100 expressions per page. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:38 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: As for Finale's templates, I don't think I've looked at a MakeMusic/ Coda-provided template since Finale 97. Now I can say with confidence that you are truly missing out. I know you can't use these default files out of the box (I can't

Re: [Finale] OT: mail (mac) and mime attachments

2007-04-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 29, 2007, at 5:49 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: anyone have experience dealing with mime attachments? a colleague (on mail) has some filters set up to auto-forward certain messages to me (eudora). i have been receiving the headers inline and the body of the messages as mime

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:34 AM 4/29/2007, Darcy James Argue wrote: And, as you point out, there's just no way selecting expressions from the list can ever be remotely as efficient as working with metatools Personally, I feel sorry for Mac users who don't have the benefit of TGTools Expression Browser, which

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread shirling neueweise
In my typical work I enter about five or six expressions per page. Ok, in that case I think you might as well stick with what you have. hm... quite possibly right. i have 230 expressions in my template (and several i have been meaning to add for some time now!), have worked on scores

Re: [Finale] Is there a key command to select the Arrow tool in Finale?

2007-04-29 Thread George Ports
You can tap the esp key twice to bring up the arrow tool if you are using windows. George Ports - Original Message - From: Jim Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:48 PM Subject: [Finale] Is there a key command to select the Arrow tool in

Re: [Finale] A font problem (Mac)

2007-04-29 Thread John Roberts
Thanks for the input. What with one thing and another, I didn't do the 2007 upgrade. I got the impression from a friend that it wasn't different from 2006, but I haven't done the experimentation with the specifics I know about. Now you mention it, I seem to remember whole rests being a problem. I

Re: [Finale] A font problem (Mac)

2007-04-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On 29-Apr-07, at 10:48 AM, John Roberts wrote: Thanks for the input. What with one thing and another, I didn't do the 2007 upgrade. I got the impression from a friend that it wasn't different from 2006, but I haven't done the experimentation with the specifics I know about. Well, the two

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2007 Aaron Sherber wrote: Personally, I feel sorry for Mac users who don't have the benefit of TGTools Expression Browser, which alphabetizes text expressions and can also group by font characteristics. They all can have the benefit of the TGTools Expression sorting, which I guess

[Finale] Hyphenating text underlay

2007-04-29 Thread Robert Patterson
This is probably gonna start a religious war, but I would like to read the members' opinions about hyphenating text underlay. Is there any consensus about whether one should hyphenate according to the dictionary as opposed to how one sings the word? For example, light-ing vs. ligh-ting I

Re: [Finale] Hyphenating text underlay

2007-04-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 29, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: This is probably gonna start a religious war, but I would like to read the members' opinions about hyphenating text underlay. Is there any consensus about whether one should hyphenate according to the dictionary as opposed to how one

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:54 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: JFYI: I sometimes enter music with around 100 expressions per page. That explains a lot. Others do, too? mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Hyphenating text underlay

2007-04-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 29, 2007, at 8:32 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: This is probably gonna start a religious war, but I would like to read the members' opinions about hyphenating text underlay. Is there any consensus about whether one should hyphenate according to the dictionary as opposed to how one

re: [Finale] Is there a key command to select the Arrow tool in Finale?

2007-04-29 Thread Aryeh Har-Even
Yes. In short, I use QuicKeys extensively with Finale. As the arrow key is probably selected more than anything, at least in my work, I have assigned F1 to this command. Easy to do and just a tap away. e.g. F1 Selection Tool, F2 Simple Entry, F3 Speedy Entry, F4 Mass Edit, etc. (you get the

Re: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:26 AM 4/29/2007, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 29.04.2007 Aaron Sherber wrote: Personally, I feel sorry for Mac users who don't have the benefit of TGTools Expression Browser, which alphabetizes text expressions and can also group by font characteristics. They all can have the benefit of the

Re: [Finale] Hyphenating text underlay

2007-04-29 Thread Robert Patterson
I should have added that my instictive preference is for dictionary hyphenation, but I want to confirm that instinct. So far I haven't read any disagreement. -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Is there a key command to select the Arrow tool in Finale?

2007-04-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 29, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Aryeh Har-Even wrote: Yes. In short, I use QuicKeys extensively with Finale. As the arrow key is probably selected more than anything, at least in my work, I have assigned F1 to this command. Easy to do and just a tap away. e.g. F1 Selection Tool, F2 Simple

Re: [Finale] Hyphenating text underlay

2007-04-29 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Apr 29, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I should have added that my instictive preference is for dictionary hyphenation, but I want to confirm that instinct. So far I haven't read any disagreement.

RE: [Finale] methods of entering and positioning expressions

2007-04-29 Thread Lee Actor
On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:54 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: JFYI: I sometimes enter music with around 100 expressions per page. That explains a lot. Others do, too? mdl Ditto. Not hard to do when you're working with a large orchestral score. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant

Re: [Finale] OT: mail (mac) and mime attachments

2007-04-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Apr 2007 at 7:25, Christopher Smith wrote: I use Mail as well, and there is one of my colleagues on Pegasus that sends me emails with the same problem. I haven't found a solution, but at least you know that it isn't an isolated problem. It is only the Mac users that can't read his

Re: [Finale] should we expect another upgrade?

2007-04-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Apr 28, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: I can't figure out how to use a metatool for an expression and not have it show up on every staff. I don't see a place to define that. What am I missing? I can't believe that for all

Re: [Finale] Hyphenating text underlay

2007-04-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:56 PM, dhbailey wrote: I wouldn't hyphenate fi- re for the same reason that I wouldn't hyphenate against dictionary hyphenation in general. I would trust that the person in charge of the music would understand that if the word isn't broken into two syllables, the

[Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

2007-04-29 Thread David W. Fenton
A Mac user tells me this PDF: http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Scores/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace.pdf shows up with weird characters. Generally, I've had no troubles getting PDFs to her via my website, but this has happened once before. She said it was some problem with the rests of something

Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

2007-04-29 Thread Chuck Israels
David, This shows up alright on my Mac. It looks fine to me except perhaps for placement of floating rests having to do with multiple vocal parts. I have to assume they are placed where they were put by the composer. Chuck On Apr 29, 2007, at 7:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: A Mac

Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

2007-04-29 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 4/29/07 10:01:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are Mac users seeing proper noteheads/rests? It displays properly here. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

2007-04-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Apr 2007 at 20:13, Chuck Israels wrote: This shows up alright on my Mac. It looks fine to me except perhaps for placement of floating rests having to do with multiple vocal parts. I have to assume they are placed where they were put by the composer. No, Orlando Gibbons was dead

Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

2007-04-29 Thread Herman Gersten
Looks fine to me, David. I'm using Adobe Reader 7.05 with system version 10.4.9 on a G5. On Apr 29, 2007, at 10:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: A Mac user tells me this PDF: http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Scores/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace.pdf shows up with weird characters. Generally, I've had

Re: [Finale] Hyphenating text underlay

2007-04-29 Thread John Howell
At 10:32 AM -0500 4/29/07, Robert Patterson wrote: This is probably gonna start a religious war, but I would like to read the members' opinions about hyphenating text underlay. Is there any consensus about whether one should hyphenate according to the dictionary as opposed to how one sings the

RE: [Finale] Hyphenating text underlay

2007-04-29 Thread Richard Yates
You can't be totally rigid, though. A prominent exception is words in -ire (as fire, tire, mire) that are very frequently pronounced in two syllables (esp. in poetry) but which you will never see hypenated in any dictionary. Not to mention the large number of diphthongs (think long a, i, o)

Re: [Finale] Hyphenating text underlay

2007-04-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
One really great assignments we had at NEC was to transcribe vocal and instrumental versions of the same song, including the accompaniment. The goal here was, in fact, to make the vocal transcription as exact as possible -- not as something you'd ever give to a singer, but as a written