Thank you, Ray for straightening this out so accurately. I had thrown
up my hands at any attempt to clear the air on this one, but you have
done so admirably. My one quibble:
Before valves, in Germany a low F trombone was a bass trombone and
was similar bore size to today's large bore tenor.
http://www.sibelius.com/products/sibelius/5/index.html
Johannes
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Sibelius 5 has been announced. Looking at the new features briefly, I
see they have added easy cue notes. Perhaps finally Finale will include
such, too? I have been asking for it for years.
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Andrew Stiller wrote:
Thank you, Ray for straightening this out so accurately. I had thrown
up my hands at any attempt to clear the air on this one, but you have
done so admirably. My one quibble:
Before valves, in Germany a low F trombone was a bass trombone and
was similar bore size to
Mark D Lew wrote:
On Jun 7, 2007, at 6:07 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Actually, you can easily edit the Instrument.txt using any text
editor. The problem is if you make a mistake! I haven't bothered to
try yet, but now I mentioned it and have time...
If that's true, then any programmer
Sibelius 5 has been announced, and final barrier to many Finale users
has fallen. They now have their version of scroll-view, called Panorama.
For many of us, that has been a major sticking point in converting our
workflow to Sibelius, and with this new release, scheduled to ship at
the end
Now who else would I turn to.?
What, exactly, is a postscript error in Finale?
I recently got a rather cryptic message from my Mac when I tried to
print out a 7 page part. The first 3 pages were fine...then , I got
the error message. Eventually I was able to print the part, but my
On Jun 8, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Sibelius 5 has been announced. Looking at the new features briefly,
I see they have added easy cue notes. Perhaps finally Finale will
include such, too? I have been asking for it for years.
Huh? In the Plugins menu under Scoring and
On Jun 8, 2007, at 7:36 AM, shirling neueweise wrote:
Sibelius has had linked score/parts since version 4, and they have
some of the same problems that Finale's version has, but there has
been a lot less complaining on the Sibelius list than on the
Finale list here.
you know i am
well, just because they have new features doesn't mean they are taking its
users more seriously. there have are also been responses from the
brothers which amount to, well, we think that not many people would
really use that, and you can do it with a workaround anyways, so...
When I made a
Remember this?
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 10:29:04 +0100
From: Jonathan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
O.K. for David, Mark Joel (+ any lurkers) here goes.
Remember this his a list from a little way back (actually, I did post it
on the
well, just because they have new features doesn't mean they are
taking its users more seriously.
You know, this is just so off the mark on this point I had to reply.
it's not off the mark at all. i didn't say sibelius wasn't taking
some users in the case of major bugs seriously; i said
Well, isn't it obvious?
what, that the marketing for sib5 is modelled after that of fin04/06?
yeah. check out the list of ahem features on the sib site. more
than half are upgrades to anadequacies in the programme or bug fixes,
and then for good measure, the final feature is Various bugs
well, just because they have new features doesn't mean they
are taking
its
users more seriously. there have are also been responses from the
brothers which amount to, well, we think that not many
people would
really use that, and you can do it with a workaround anyways, so...
if you only like humour that is good and clean, don't bother clicking here:
http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=vomiturl=http://www.sibelius.com/products/sibelius/5/index.html
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On 8 Jun 2007 at 7:30, Phil Daley wrote:
At 6/8/2007 12:06 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:
If that's true, then any programmer ought to be able to write a
little utility with a user-friendly interface for editing it. It
wouldn't even have to be a plug-in, since it's only manipulating a
text
On 8 Jun 2007 at 8:13, Christopher Smith wrote:
the clipboard for music seems
moderately interesting,
Seems pretty easy to implement, though I'm not sure why. I usually
just use scratch staves within the same file.
cut-and-paste to Word for musical examples
certainly saves some fudging
On 8 Jun 2007 at 8:13, Christopher Smith wrote:
On
the plus side for Sib, Paste as cue seems to save a mouse click or
two over running a plugin in Finale
Reading between the lines of other features that impinge on cues
notes, it seems like it's implemented in a way that works with linked
On 8 Jun 2007 at 8:38, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
Three months ago, I found a bug that Sibelius has with Music XML (yah,
I'm of the camp that got feed up with Finale and am migrating to
Sibelius). Daniel Spreadbury, who works for Sibelius saw my message
on the list about my troubles, asked me
At 8:23 PM -0400 6/7/07, Raymond Horton wrote:
The naming of the F as a contrabass trombone
has to do with in what role it is meant to
function, not just the key.
Very clear and welcome explanation. Thanks, Ray!
There is more to assigning these voice part names than just key.
Otherwise
At 9:06 PM -0700 6/7/07, Mark D Lew wrote:
Hmm, in my mind haut-contre and countertenor are not the same
thing at all.
Quite right. The former is a voice which simply lies higher than the
average tenor. I've had a couple of students with that kind of
voice, and judging by the sound I've
Eh, the only thing that looks NEW is the Idea thing. The other
stuff...who cares? They have a Scroll View. Wow. Cool. Finally. And
a new hand font. Wooo. And GPO sounds. Oooo.
Look, if you want to go, go. Until Sibelius can open my Finale files
without MusicXML, I'm staying with Finale. I
At 7:30 PM -0700 6/7/07, Harold Owen wrote:
Zelenka certainly wrote wonderful parts for bassoon in his trio sonatas.
Bach wrote a very active bassoon part for Cantata 150 (if my memory
serves) that goes down to low A.
If that's one of the Weimar catatas (like 106), the transposition
decided
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 8 Jun 2007 at 8:13, Christopher Smith wrote:
the clipboard for music seems
moderately interesting,
Seems pretty easy to implement, though I'm not sure why. I usually
just use scratch staves within the same file.
cut-and-paste to Word for musical examples
On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:17 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 8:23 PM -0400 6/7/07, Raymond Horton wrote:
There is more to assigning these voice part names than just key.
Otherwise Urbie Green and I play the same instrument.
I thought his had valves!!
Heh, heh! No, he only played so clean and
On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:06 PM, dhbailey wrote:
Such as making tech-support easier and friendlier for starters.
I don't know when you emailed tech support last, but they changed
things a few months ago. It's through email now, and you don't have
to give your mother's maiden name every time
I need help! When in graphic export selection: how tu set the default Tiff
resolution in 600 dpi. The program comes with 300 dpi.
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Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:17 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 8:23 PM -0400 6/7/07, Raymond Horton wrote:
There is more to assigning these voice part names than just key.
Otherwise Urbie Green and I play the same instrument.
I thought his had valves!!
Heh, heh! No, he
Oh wow, they have a SCROLL VIEW now. Wow. Amazing. Those guys are great.
from what i have seen (and following discussions with a sib
power-user colleague) i think the value of this release is that they
have actually -- seemingly -- addressed a number of long-standing
issues with sibelius.
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 8 Jun 2007 at 15:57, dhbailey wrote:
Using the Mixer window you can assign any of the installed devices to
any staff, so the answer is Yes you can use the Kontakt player for
some staves and any other midi device for other staves. Sib4 doesn't
come with a soundfont
Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:06 PM, dhbailey wrote:
Such as making tech-support easier and friendlier for starters.
I don't know when you emailed tech support last, but they changed things
a few months ago. It's through email now, and you don't have to give
your mother's
I need help! When in graphic export selection: how tu set the default Tiff
resolution in 600 dpi. The program comes with 300 dpi.
(i seem to remember offhand that) when you set it to 600 or 1200 or
whatever, it keeps the setting until you quite the programme.
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Alberto Guzmán Naranjo wrote:
I need help! When in graphic export selection: how tu set the default Tiff
resolution in 600 dpi. The program comes with 300 dpi.
I don't think there is a way to change this default. But it's easy
enough to change it when you're exporting a graphic.
--
David
While I would like to have a bugless program, I don't think that is
really likely from any software company. Ideally, yeah, it would be
great if they could just go through and fix a lot of outstanding issues.
But, they also need to keep adding features.so there is a balance.
But, I have
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 8 Jun 2007 at 8:13, Christopher Smith wrote:
the clipboard for music seems
moderately interesting,
Seems pretty easy to implement, though I'm not sure why. I usually
just use scratch staves within the same file.
Yeah, but this looks like a repository
While I would like to have a bugless program, I don't think that is
really likely from any software company.
my point was simply that sib5 might not have a major new feature
but it seems to be a version with many very important improvements;
i.e. they actually **did** resolve a lot of
On 8 Jun 2007 at 14:08, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 8 Jun 2007 at 8:13, Christopher Smith wrote:
the clipboard for music seems
moderately interesting,
Seems pretty easy to implement, though I'm not sure why. I usually
just use scratch staves within the
On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
But, I have never had any issues with bugs in Finale 2007. Probably
a lot of people haven't.
Holy moley! Are you kidding?
I haven't had so many problems with bugs EVER in Finale as I do in
2007, and this is going back to 3.2!
Maybe
Just a quick question.
I tried to play a finale file with the midi sounds only, and it wouldn't
play.
I then was able to change the midi settings and have it play on GPO.
Is there a way to make finale play midi sounds only? This would be very
helpful.
Thanks in advance.
Derek
No virus found
On Jun 8, 2007, at 10:42 AM, John Howell wrote:
Interesting. When we did it the soloist was a baritone, but with a
good and flexible falsetto.
Are we talking about the same solo? I was referring to Olim lacus
colueram, which is generally assigned to the tenor soloist. I was
saying I
On 08.06.2007 dhbailey wrote:
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Oh wow, they have a SCROLL VIEW now. Wow. Amazing. Those guys are great.
Well it may be a yawn to you, but it is certainly attracting this finale-user's
interest! And other folks' as well.
[snip]
Thanks David, for spelling out what I
On 08.06.2007 Aaron Sherber wrote:
It does look like it's the eqiuivalent of Fin2007's Add Cue Notes and then
apply the Blank Notation with Rests staff style, all in one pass.
(Though frankly, the limitations of this staff style in Finale are one of the
reasons I still do a separate parts
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 08 June 2007 22:19
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 has been announced and
Finalehad better start coming up with significant improvements!
On 8 Jun
Have you UNCHECKED:
MIDIplay Finale Through Native Instruments VST??
What is your output device in the MIDI setup?
Jim
From: Derek Kane
Sent: Fri 08-Jun-07 18:36
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] playback using MIDI
Just a quick question.
I tried to play a finale file with the midi
Of course I know it's easy to change the setting each time I export a
graphic; but I have a lot of graphics in order to edit a music book. The
program don't keeps the settings.
2007/6/8, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Alberto Guzmán Naranjo wrote:
I need help! When in graphic export selection:
On 8 Jun 2007 at 18:29, Alberto Guzmán Naranjo wrote:
Of course I know it's easy to change the setting each time I export a
graphic; but I have a lot of graphics in order to edit a music book.
The program don't keeps the settings.
I'm working with an old version (2003), but as long as I don't
Um, no. If I cannot easily import all my exisiting stuff into Sibelius,
that is a deal breaker. MusicXML doesn't cut it. I would want/need
something that opens it and I don't have to futz with it.
Yeah, scroll view is a great feature which I need and use all the time.
It's great Sibelius
So maybe that's why Jochum once recorded CB with two baritones (or maybe it
was a baritone and a bass).
Aaron J. Rabushka
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From: Mark D Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:04 PM
Humour?
K in OZ
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shirling neueweise
Sent: Saturday, 9 June 2007 12:08 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: RE: [Finale] Sibelius 5 has been announced ...
if
At 4:06 PM -0400 6/8/07, dhbailey wrote:
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Oh wow, they have a SCROLL VIEW now. Wow. Amazing. Those guys are great.
Well it may be a yawn to you, but it is certainly attracting this
finale-user's interest! And other folks' as well.
Especially in view of how many of
Remember this?
Hey, I remember that!
I called them two days ago to register Sib3 on a mac intel laptop as
the Sib. software blocked me from registering via the internet. I was
told by their rep. that it would run really slowly on a Macintel
chip. So, I guess the backwards compatibility
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Williams, Jim
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 3:45 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: RE: [Finale] playback using MIDI
Have you UNCHECKED:
MIDIplay Finale Through Native Instruments VST?? Yes.
What is your
Shows up fine on my Intel iMac..
Christopher Smith wrote:
Anybody on an Intel Mac out there with Finale 2007?
Can you confirm that the BIAB Autoharmonising plugin doesn't show up
in the plugin menu under Scoring and Arranging, even though it is in
the right folder in Plugins?
I can't
Existing Finale users can cross-grade to Sibelius 5 for $199 US.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On 08 Jun 2007, at 5:13 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote:
Remember this?
Hey, I remember that!
I called them two days ago to register Sib3 on a mac intel laptop
as the Sib.
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