Has anyone found a way to make one of four bar lines in a four-voice
measure stack different? I have a client who wants a system of
barring favored in certain circles of early music specialists,
whereby bar lines are on staff only where there is no overlap,
and replaced by small dashes
Eric Fiedler wrote:
Has anyone found a way to make one of four bar lines in a four-voice
measure stack different? I have a client who wants a system of barring
favored in certain circles of early music specialists, whereby bar
lines are on staff only where there is no overlap, and replaced by
Robert Patterson wrote:
[snip]
The only problem I have with this statement is, how are the Sibelius
fixes delivered? I thought it was on a 3-yr development cycle. How can
they deliver any timely fixes on that long of a cycle?
They deliver update fixes, usually more than one, in between
Thanks Noel,
FinMac 2009, OS 10.4.11 (which, by the way, _seems_ to be OK up to
now. Keeping my fingers crossed ...)
What you suggest could work — but I was hoping for something a little
less cumbersome, as such measures occur _a lot_ in the music of the
Renaissance. I guess I was hoping
Eric Fiedler wrote:
Thanks Noel,
FinMac 2009, OS 10.4.11 (which, by the way, _seems_ to be OK up to
now. Keeping my fingers crossed ...)
What you suggest could work — but I was hoping for something a little
less cumbersome, as such measures occur _a lot_ in the music of the
Renaissance. I
At 11:22 AM +0100 10/27/08, Eric Fiedler wrote:
Thanks Noel,
FinMac 2009, OS 10.4.11 (which, by the way, _seems_ to be OK up to
now. Keeping my fingers crossed ...)
What you suggest could work - but I was hoping for something a
little less cumbersome, as such measures occur _a lot_ in the
Hi Noel,
It sounds like you're thinking of something along the lines of Van
Crevel's edition of Obrecht in 1959, where he dispensed with bar
lines completely and just used little wedges above the staff to
denote the tactus (take a look at his edition of Obrecht's Missa Sub
tuum presitium
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Eric Fiedler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone found a way to make one of four bar lines in a four-voice measure
stack different?
Put it in a Staff Group with a different barline. (Staff Groups can
contain only a single staff.)
At 3:55 PM +0100 10/27/08, Eric Fiedler wrote:
Hi Noel,
It sounds like you're thinking of something along the lines of Van
Crevel's edition of Obrecht in 1959, where he dispensed with bar
lines completely and just used little wedges above the staff to
denote the tactus (take a look at his
On 27 Oct 2008 at 15:55, Eric Fiedler wrote:
I admit to
having dabbled in Mensurstrich in my youth, as this was more or less
the politically correct way to notate the polyphony of the
Renaissance when I was a student, but this, too, seems to be slowly
dying out, and I'm pleased to
On 27-Oct-08, at 27-Oct-08 11:54 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 11:22 AM +0100 10/27/08, Eric Fiedler wrote:
Thanks Noel,
FinMac 2009, OS 10.4.11 (which, by the way, _seems_ to be OK up
to now. Keeping my fingers crossed ...)
What you suggest could work - but I was hoping for something a
Hi Robert,
Thanks for the answer, but I'm afraid that won't work either. When I
make each part a one-staff Staff Group and check Use Alternate Group
Barlines in the Group Attributes dialog, _all_ the bar lines in
the part are affected, when I change the type of bar line in the
Measure
Anyone else experiencing difficulty with this plugin? Once selecting
the region and using the plugin, the repeat numbers are at different
heights on different staves; they're positioned to the right of the
measure instead of centered; and if I use a one-measure repeat staff
style, they don't
John,
As you have probably discovered, you can do this in Finale:
1) Get rid of the tie.
2) Make the first note in the next measure (the held-over part)
invisible
3) go back to the previous measure and give the last note its proper
value
When you exit, Finale will bing at you and ask if you
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Eric Fiedler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I want, of course, is the
occasional _single_ measure with an alternative bar line at the end. Which
seems to be impossible in today's Finale. Sigh ...
You can put a staff group only on a single system (if the system
On 27.10.2008, at 17:46, John Howell wrote:
At 3:55 PM +0100 10/27/08, Eric Fiedler wrote:
Hi Noel,
It sounds like you're thinking of something along the lines of Van
Crevel's edition of Obrecht in 1959, where he dispensed with bar
lines completely and just used little wedges above the
On 27.10.2008, at 17:58, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 27 Oct 2008 at 15:55, Eric Fiedler wrote:
I admit to
having dabbled in Mensurstrich in my youth, as this was more or less
the politically correct way to notate the polyphony of the
Renaissance when I was a student, but this, too, seems to be
On 27-Oct-08, at 27-Oct-08 2:30 PM, Giz Bowe wrote:
Anyone else experiencing difficulty with this plugin? Once
selecting the region and using the plugin, the repeat numbers are
at different heights on different staves; they're positioned to the
right of the measure instead of centered;
On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Eric Fiedler wrote:
On 27.10.2008, at 17:58, David W. Fenton wrote:
Bar lines are only tyrants if you let them be tyrants ;-)
Agreed!
Chuck
Chuck Israels
230 North Garden Terrace
Bellingham, WA 98225-5836
phone (360) 671-3402
fax (360) 676-6055
On 27 Oct 2008 at 20:43, Eric Fiedler wrote:
On 27.10.2008, at 17:58, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 27 Oct 2008 at 15:55, Eric Fiedler wrote:
I admit to
having dabbled in Mensurstrich in my youth, as this was more or less
the politically correct way to notate the polyphony of the
Hi Robert,
Graphic at:
http://www.habsburgerverlag.de/Pages/Kyrie.jpg
What I want here is the alternative bar lines in measure 1 of the
Alto, and in measure 2 of Soprano and Alto. Nowhere else.
Is this possible?
Thanks for your thoughts!
Eric
Noel told you what I would do for this situation, in the first reply
on this thread. What I don't understand is why you think it is
cumbersome. You can define a (shape) expression to position itself
automatically precisely on the left (or right) barline position, and a
staff style to hide the
On 27.10.2008, at 21:01, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 27 Oct 2008 at 20:43, Eric Fiedler wrote:
On 27.10.2008, at 17:58, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 27 Oct 2008 at 15:55, Eric Fiedler wrote:
Bar lines are only tyrants if you let them be tyrants ;-)
I disagree. No matter how experienced
Eric Fiedler wrote:
John,
As you have probably discovered, you can do this in Finale:
1) Get rid of the tie.
2) Make the first note in the next measure (the held-over part) invisible
3) go back to the previous measure and give the last note its proper value
When you exit, Finale will bing at you
Robert Patterson wrote:
Anyway, I can't find built-in tick marks that look like the ones in
your example, so you would have to create a shape for them in any
You could use a custom barline and add the bottom tick yourself.
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Barbara Touburg wrote:
Eric Fiedler wrote:
John,
As you have probably discovered, you can do this in Finale:
1) Get rid of the tie.
2) Make the first note in the next measure (the held-over part) invisible
3) go back to the previous measure and give the last note its proper
value
When you
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