[Finale] Sibelius promotion announced

2010-01-10 Thread John Howell
Just for your information (not pushing this in any way), Sibelius has just announced a special promotion for users of Finale, Notion, encore and Mosaic to crossgrade to Sibelius 6 at a discount by March 19. http://www.sibelius.com/landingpages/finale_crossgrade.html If someone wanted to

[Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I this really has only very remotely to do with Finale. On the other hand it has to do with the Finale mailing list, so perhaps there will be some clever person here with some answers. I currently use several email accounts as POP accounts. All the mail gets downloaded to my computer, and

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 9:12 am, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Perhaps I am missing something, but does IMAP allow me to use it like POP with only added convenience, or am I then required to keep everything on the server all the time? I'll give you the simple answer by example. I use both. I check

Re: [Finale] Sibelius promotion announced

2010-01-10 Thread Lawrence Yates
If anyone does this, could you please let us know how the crossgrade works - what are the implications? Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Sibelius promotion announced

2010-01-10 Thread dhbailey
Lawrence Yates wrote: If anyone does this, could you please let us know how the crossgrade works - what are the implications? Cheers, Lawrence I've done it twice (so that my son can have his own copy of Sibelius) and it's very simple -- you contact Sibelius by following the link for the

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 15:26, schrieb Dennis Bathory-Kitsz: When I'm ready to grab the mail that I want to keep, I move everything back to the IMAP inbox, mark it as unread, and run my POP mail program (where I have all my email since 1993). It downloads automatically deletes everything on the server's

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 9:59 am, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Seems rather a lot of extra work: You have to first move everything back to the inbox and mark it unread? Depends on your IMAP interface, I guess. I only have two other mailboxes (Delayed Followup and Temp -- one is stuff I'm done with,

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I'd say go imap. Get a gmail account. You can set up folders and what not. Computers (multiple) and iPhones can use the account via imap, and all your messages will be there. Plus gmail can also function as an exchange server service for the iPhone, and immediately beep the phone when you

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread Jari Williamsson
dhbailey wrote: I wonder if Finale ever offers a reduction in the crossgrade (they call it a competitive upgrade) price of $199. But, if I haven't misunderstand something, the costs if you want to share notation data back and forth are: Finale: $199 + $0 That other app: $129+$199 (for

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 19:03, schrieb Eric Dannewitz: I'd say go imap. Get a gmail account. You can set up folders and what not. Computers (multiple) and iPhones can use the account via imap, and all your messages will be there. Plus gmail can also function as an exchange server service for the iPhone, and

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Tens of thousands of messages. If not close to 100,000. I have emails going back to 1997 on there, plus interesting messages I've saved from the 40 or so lists I am on (Flute, Klarinet, etc). I don't know why you wouldn't consider Google mail. It works amazingly well. And it's free. And the

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 1:14 pm, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I am certainly not going google, but IMAP is an option... Johannes, Does your musikmanufaktur.com web host not offer both IMAP and POP for the same account? If so, you can have the benefits of both -- IMAP as needed, POP for archiving

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 19:29, schrieb Dennis Bathory-Kitsz: Does your musikmanufaktur.com web host not offer both IMAP and POP for the same account? If so, you can have the benefits of both -- IMAP as needed, POP for archiving locally. That's what I'm using and, like Eric, find using IMAP with my phone an

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 19:20, schrieb Eric Dannewitz: I don't know why you wouldn't consider Google mail. It works amazingly well. And it's free. And the exchange option is great. Apple also offers mobileme.com which is really great too, and it keeps your bookmarks and contact information synced between

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
POP mail can be set to delete itself from the server after a specified amount of time. I don't see why you could not just set everything to IMAP, and create local folders on your computer and drag and drop the messages you want to savethen you wouldn't have to worry about this whole

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Well, what are you using that isn't a Monopoly? Apple? Microsoft? I use Google Mail cause it is robust. Millions of people use it. They provide lots of storage. They aren't going to disappear. And they had just one blip in their service since they started (last year, like 1/2 a day). And again

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 2:22 pm, Johannes Gebauer wrote: As far as I can see it cannot be used at the same time unless you unsort the mail before using the pop access. That sort of defeats the purpose, no? Yes, I understand. I don't really worry about sorting until I download, which I

[Finale] Re: Force windows to appear at different screen resolution

2010-01-10 Thread phayden649
On 1/9/10 Darcy James Argue wrote: Trashing the prefs works. Try it again. Make sure you have the right prefs. Thanks for the suggestion! You're right -- I trashed com.makemusic.Finale.plist when I should have trashed Finale 2009 Preferences. All is good now. Paul Hayden On 9 Jan 2010,

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 20:40, schrieb Dennis Bathory-Kitsz: Got it. I don't really like IMAP -- the only reason I use it at all is because my POP mail is accessed from and stored on my laptop (with external backup) and I don't use the laptop for 'real' work at home. When I use the laptop at home (such as

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 20:29, schrieb Eric Dannewitz: I don't see why you could not just set everything to IMAP, and create local folders on your computer and drag and drop the messages you want to savethen you wouldn't have to worry about this whole POP/IMAP thing Drag and drop? That seems like

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 3:03 pm, Johannes Gebauer wrote: So when you are using email at home you don't have direct access to your mail database? Yes. I use VNC to operate the laptop from my desktop (screen-in-screen, with cross-computer copy/paste of text, etc.) Dennis

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread mmathew1942
There is an article in the current issue of macilife wherein they seem to be discussing this topic on page 88 and ƒ. Does this help? Michael mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 -

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
What mail client are you using? In Apple Mail, it is very easy to have both online (IMAP) folders and On My Mac folders, with automatic rules to handle sorting to each. You could have a rule that moved all messages older than 30 days from your (online) inbox to your (offline) inbox archive,

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread dhbailey
Jari Williamsson wrote: dhbailey wrote: I wonder if Finale ever offers a reduction in the crossgrade (they call it a competitive upgrade) price of $199. But, if I haven't misunderstand something, the costs if you want to share notation data back and forth are: Finale: $199 + $0 That other

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread Lawrence Yates
I'm very happy with Finale but I am increasingly being given Sibelius files to work with and so am seriously considering buying Sibelius as well. This offer, if, as someone has suggested, applies to older versions of Finale, sounds very attractive but I don't want to give up my current Finale.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread Will Roberts
Lawrence Yates wrote: I'm very happy with Finale but I am increasingly being given Sibelius files to work with and so am seriously considering buying Sibelius as well. This offer, if, as someone has suggested, applies to older versions of Finale, sounds very attractive but I don't want to

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread toronado455
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Will Roberts whrcompo...@fastmail.fmwrote: I don't think you have to give up Finale at all. You just have to send them two pages of your Finale user guide or one of your Finale program discs. When I read about this special crossgrade price on the Sibelius

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread Will Roberts
toronado...@gmail.com wrote: ... was wondering if it matters which program disk you send them. Like, could you send them your old Finale 2008 CD and keep your Finale 2009 and your user guide remains intact? I don't think it matters, provided it's an original program CD. David, can you

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread Lawrence Yates
I can't find any mention of the need to be a student to qualify either. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] minimum font size for lyrics in score?

2010-01-10 Thread John Howell
At 4:54 PM -0800 1/9/10, Ryan wrote: Hi, Just curious if any of you have a limit on the minimum size of lyrics in a score, or if there's a general rule of thumb I should follow. In Mosaic I used 12 point for entering lyrics (so I could read them on screen), then changed them to 10 point for

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread J D Thomas
When I crossgraded from Finale to Sibelius over 2 years ago, I sent them my CD for Finale 2002, which won't run under OS X. No problems. HTH J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Jan 10, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Will Roberts wrote: toronado...@gmail.com wrote: ... was wondering if it matters which

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread toronado455
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Will Roberts whrcompo...@fastmail.fmwrote: toronado...@gmail.com wrote: Also it says you must currently be a student. So faculty doesn't count? Where did you see that? No mention of needing to be a student here:

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread toronado455
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:28 PM, J D Thomas j...@thomastudios.com wrote: When I crossgraded from Finale to Sibelius over 2 years ago, I sent them my CD for Finale 2002, which won't run under OS X. No problems. Awesome. I'll send them my 2008 CD.

[Finale] OT Trb. Info

2010-01-10 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Any of you folks have a line on a decent used Bass Bone (just missed my chance last night on e bay, buy going to bed instead of bidding on a Holton that really looked nice ... oh well)? Would like a double rotor for somewhere between 1k and $1500, if I could find it .. Pacem, Dean

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread John Howell
At 4:09 PM -0800 1/10/10, toronado...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Will Roberts whrcompo...@fastmail.fmwrote: Also it says you must currently be a student. So faculty doesn't count? Where do you find that? I don't see it on the Competitive Crossgrade page at all. John

Re: [Finale] OT Trb. Info

2010-01-10 Thread dershem
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Any of you folks have a line on a decent used Bass Bone (just missed my chance last night on e bay, buy going to bed instead of bidding on a Holton that really looked nice ... oh well)? Would like a double rotor for somewhere between 1k and $1500, if I could find it

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread John Howell
At 4:28 PM -0800 1/10/10, J D Thomas wrote: When I crossgraded from Finale to Sibelius over 2 years ago, I sent them my CD for Finale 2002, which won't run under OS X. No problems. Yes. When I crossgraded from Mosaic to Sib 5 I sent in the pages from the Mosaic manual--after photocopying

Re: [Finale] OT Trb. Info

2010-01-10 Thread Ray Horton
Try: http://www.trombone.org/classifieds Only horns there in your price range right now are single valve, but it gets updated on Mondays. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Any of you folks have a line on a decent used Bass Bone (just missed

Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129

2010-01-10 Thread John Howell
At 5:31 PM -0800 1/10/10, toronado...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Will Roberts whrcompo...@fastmail.fmwrote: toronado...@gmail.com wrote: Also it says you must currently be a student. So faculty doesn't count? Where did you see that? No mention of needing to be

Re: [Finale] OT Trb. Info

2010-01-10 Thread Horace Brock
Sorry, all I have is a Bach 50B, one rotor, built late Sixties. Horace On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:56:05 -0800, you wrote: Any of you folks have a line on a decent used Bass Bone (just missed my chance last night on e bay, buy going to bed instead of bidding on a Holton that really looked nice