RE: [Finale] [OT] hn trans up/down

2010-03-11 Thread Lee Actor
in a new orch work (new music played by an orch experienced with new music), there is no need today to mention that regardless of clef the transposition is down a 5th, correct? i.e. the up/down in treble/bass clef is to be considered old school and the horn players will assume the modern

Re: [Finale] [OT] hn trans up/down

2010-03-11 Thread Robert Patterson
I agree with those saying to put a written instruction in the score. The player will likely infer wrongly if your part is low enough to go below the staff. An example is the Rochberg Trio for cl, hn, pno. The horn part rarely switches to bass clef, but when it does it is for extremely low notes

Re: [Finale] [OT] hn trans up/down

2010-03-11 Thread John Howell
At 6:04 AM +0100 3/11/10, SN jef chippewa wrote: in a new orch work (new music played by an orch experienced with new music), there is no need today to mention that regardless of clef the transposition is down a 5th, correct? i.e. the up/down in treble/bass clef is to be considered old school

Re: [Finale] [OT] hn trans up/down

2010-03-11 Thread Ryan
Speaking of copyists slavishly following score clef changes; I'm playing a few Szymanowski pieces (from the 20's and 30's) this weekend with the orchestra. In one passage, the second part is notated in bass clef old notation as D on the middle line. This is the same as treble clef D above middle

Re: [Finale] [OT] hn trans up/down

2010-03-11 Thread Aaron Rabushka
Yes, a brief note to TRANSPOSE DOWN (as Vaughan Williams used) wold help avoid confusion. Aaron J. Rabushka arabus...@austin.rr.com - Original Message - From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] [OT] hn trans up

[Finale] [OT] hn trans up/down

2010-03-10 Thread SN jef chippewa
in a new orch work (new music played by an orch experienced with new music), there is no need today to mention that regardless of clef the transposition is down a 5th, correct? i.e. the up/down in treble/bass clef is to be considered old school and the horn players will assume the modern

Re: [Finale] [OT] hn trans up/down

2010-03-10 Thread Ryan Beard
I would say that you are correct, but as a horn player, I always appreciate a written note clarifying the use of bass clef. It's easy to include and it removes any doubt. Ryan On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:04 PM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: in a new orch work (new